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I like to think that it's easier to get players that do not appear to be on the radar of the other nation(s) at the moment. Ilori's father was born in London though, although a Nigerian decent.

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Did Akpoguma ever...?

edi287:
Akpoguma wanted to play for us back in the day. Don't think he does now. Probably still bitter for us not replying him

Exactly what I've been trying to communicate

komekn:
In football you are only as good as your last game.

A year in football is like ancient history, two years is archived and three years your totally forgotten.

That is why you could be valued £100million one season have a poor season and you could be worth £20 million.

Since Ilori came to Liverpool he has done nothing he has been overtaken by boys who were 7/ 8 years younger than him. In near 4 years at Liverpool he has played 3 token cup games. You are referring to ancient history of 4/5 years ago in Portugal. I have watched him train at Kirby and play several U23 Games, firstly, he lacks the athleticism and strength required for the EPL even the Championship, consider that he has played over near two seasons in the Championship but just 12 games for Reading. That means Stamp does not rate him at all and its really a waste of money.

Compare him to Domonic Iorfa first team regular for Ipswich over a hundred games in the championship ,add to that Iorfa is just 22, 2 years younger but way more experienced to summarise, them no be mate at all.

Please stop making reference to Olaitan's heart issue. stay with the context here. I am not here to argue to win an argument. Olaitan was once outstanding. Azeez was the best young player in Almeria -- "like I said if was not mistaking". You said Almeria was a poor club? granted. But Azeez did win an MOTM award in the LaLiga. Ilori also did once in LaLiga.

So my point here has always been these players have had a high point, but at the moment they are not seeing the best of times. That's the reason for my comparison. Maybe you guys think I'm making a whole different argument here.

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Permit me to add, in comparison with Aina, and Lorfa

tbaba1234:
Ramon Azeez was NEVER amongst the best players in la liga. Almeria was a poor team. He was never outstanding.

Olaitan never recovered from a year out.

Okay well I was quoting you. So that's me misunderstanding you.

forgiveness:
Read carefully. He missed 4 out 7. 2 due to red card. Meaning, he missed two matches because of straight red card. Finito.

You wan't me to hand you a link? Ramon Azeez was once voted the best young player in LaLiga or if i'm mistaking, Almeria.

if you follow the discussion very well, you will know my reference to Olaitan has to do with him performing very well at a point.
Overall, we are talking about these players development. I'm saying you can't make a reference to a distant past, and then conclude they are class and better than their competition now.

Modified
I corrected the impression that Aina is the best.. among the best is different from the best.
We talking whoscored stats now

tbaba1234:
Biko, Ramon Azeez was always average. He was never one of the best young DMs in la liga.

Michael Olaitan had a major injury set back and never got his grove back.


So far this season, Aina is among the best rbs in the championship.

2 due to red card.. You said, not me. @ bolded

I go reply you point by point, I don't have much time in my hands now.

forgiveness:
It doesn't change the fact that when he had the chance to play at the highest level he was noticed. Simple!

We know Messi may fumble in the kwatankwa championship kind of football.

Which limited time?

So, you didn't see he played all their first three matches before the red card?

Out of 7 matches he missed 4. 2 due to red card and 2 due to reasons best known to the coach.

You can't keep your most valuable player on the bench for no reason na.

Tiago Ilori is the most expensive player Reading fc ever bought.


The highest transfer fee received for a Reading player is the £7 million 1899 Hoffenheim paid for Gylfi Sigurðsson on 31 August 2010.[ 1][8] The most expensive player Reading have ever bought is Tiago Ilori, for £3,750,000 from Liverpool on 18 January 2017.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Reading_F.C._records_and_statistics

Troost Ekong ties for best pass success rate for players who played the entire encounter

Yeni 2-4 Bursaspor

Mikel Agu makes top 5 tacklers list.

Muazam!!!, definitely will be a solid SE player in future.

BascoVanVeli:
Ibrahim Alhassan ‘Muazzam’ ‘fantastic’ in winning debut for Austria Wien – Akwuegbu


By admin -
September 17, 2017

Ex-Nigeria World Cup star Benedict Akwuegbu has hailed Ibrahim Alhassan ‘Muazzam’ as “fantastic” after he made his long-awaited debut for Austria Wien in a 5-1 home win over St.Polten tonight.

‘Muazzam’ gave an assist for his team’s fourth goal and was unlucky not to have scored himself with a header in the first half.

He was replaced in the 90th minute.

Akwuegbu, who earned the nickname ‘The Austrian Bomber’ in his playing days in Austria, watched the game live and told SCORENigeria the 21-year-old forward, who has already been capped by the Super Eagles, will go on to be a massive hit in the Austrian Bundesliga.

“Alhassan was simply fantastic. He did very, very well for somebody playing only his first official game in Europe,” Akwuegbu gushed.

“He caused the fourth goal with his through pass and he could even have scored in the 32nd minute, but his header missed target just narrowly.

“It would have been a great way to crown a great outing.

“He gave everything, ran a lot and worked hard for the team playing in what I consider his best position, which is coming from behind in the midfield to the attack.

“He’s most dangerous from that position.”

He added: “The coach and the media have paid glowing tribute to him after such a performance.

“And going forward, I see him scoring loads of goals for his new club.

“He will be a big hit in Austria and beyond.”

http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/09/17/ibrahim-alhassan-muazzam-fantastic-in-winning-debut-for-austria-wien-akwuegbu/

Did anybody fail to report Olarenwaju Kayode conceded a penalty kick against Sevilla yesterday, that Girona failed to convert?
The ref was a little harsh though in awarding that penalty.

Sevilla went on to win 1-nil away.

The love of money is truly the root of ALL evil.

BascoVanVeli:
STEPHEN ODEY TRANSFER LATEST: Agent forwards striker’s 2 different passports to FC Zurich, demands cut in deal


By admin -
September 17, 2017

SCORENigeria understands that Franco-Cameroonian agent Olivier Noah has allegedly submitted two different copies of the international passport of Stephen Odey to FC Zurich in a desperate bid to scuttle the transfer.

He has also demanded a percentage from the striker’s transfer to the Swiss club.
The passports carry different ages of the MFM FC star.

Noah was the one who facilitated the botched move to Danish club Midtjylland during which the two passports also surfaced and Odey was branded an age cheat.

“Yes, the boy’s two passports were also sent to FC Zurich, but it seems they are not interested in that,” a source told SCORENigeria

“The handlers of the player had already forewarned them against that and have also attached court papers which have cleared the player of any misdeeds.”

It was further gathered that the rival agent has demanded a percentage from the player’s move to FC Zurich even though he did not broker it.

The agreement between he and the player has since expired, another source informed SCORENigeria

“There is no way he can get anything from the boy’s transfer because he did not facilitate it and moreover, his agreement with the player has since ended,” said the source.

Noah is a persona non grata in Nigeria after a rash of allegations were leveled against him in the transfers of Isaac Success, Kelechi Iheanacho, Wilfred Ndidi, among many other Nigerian players.

http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/09/17/stephen-odey-transfer-latest-agent-forwards-strikers-2-different-passports-to-fc-zurich-demands-cut-in-deal/

Likewise Olaitan, Isaac Success, Ramon Azeez etc in terms of playing at the "highest" level and being noticed.

Like I said, we always hope for the development of these youngsters.

Big money transfer don't say everything.

Red carded twice in a short time for a defender, don't that tell you something? Ilori is still developing. Don't put him where he hasn't gotten to yet because of a couple weekly stat.

The same championship is where the likes of Ighalo excelled. You can't rubbish the championship because of Ilori. I will not change the goal post. Whoscored stats is very reliable. I see how it changes even during live games. various aspects of player's performance is considered. If you have played few matches it can count to your advantage still. I have given you their ratings so far this season. Let's keep monitoring it.

forgiveness:
It doesn't change the fact that when he had the chance to play at the highest level he was noticed. Simple!

We know Messi may fumble in the kwatankwa championship kind of football.

Which limited time?

So, you didn't see he played all their first three matches before the red card?

Out of 7 matches he missed 4. 2 due to red card and 2 due to reasons best known to the coach.

You can't keep your most valuable player on the bench for no reason na.

Tiago Ilori is the most expensive player Reading fc ever bought.


The highest transfer fee received for a Reading player is the £7 million 1899 Hoffenheim paid for Gylfi Sigurðsson on 31 August 2010.[ 1][8] The most expensive player Reading have ever bought is Tiago Ilori, for £3,750,000 from Liverpool on 18 January 2017.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Reading_F.C._records_and_statistics

I think he actually meant AM. There isn't much of a distinction though. I think as a CM one should be a good holder and distributor of the ball. Somewhere midway between an AM and a Holding Midfielder. Iwobi has improved in his ball holding capability.

Of course he is known for his good passes

edi287:
I don't know why people keep thinking Iwobi can play at CM. He can't. His best position is as a AM/LW. He also didn't play well against Cologne. He was good against Chelsea and worked hard.

That's one of the easiest players we can get regardless lol.

If we really want a challenge, let's go for Akpoguma, Uduokhai, and Solanke

edi287:
Forget about Illori.. that one is out of reach. I doubt if he's ever watched a SE game in his life.

Nwakaeme and Ogu are not SE regulars.

freshest4live:
Anthony.

Two years ago is a while ago. Is he injured now? Why the limited time? And please don't forget to stress those best XIs were weekly stats.

Like I said they are all in the championship. We can easily monitor them - many thanks to whoscored. At least we have some good stats as a yardstick.

forgiveness:
That's right! He made the best 11 in the LA liga despite limited playing time 3 years ago, and he also made best XI in ligue 1 just two years ago despite injuries and limited playing time.

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2015/ligue-1-team-of-the-week-24-201415/

These are the stats for the current Championship season, for the quartet of Aina, Tomori, Iorfa, and Ilori. See pics below for details.

Ilori: 6.53
Tomori: 6.85
Lorfa: 7.04
Aina: 7.31

he made whoscored's best XI in Spain in one of those weeks, about 3 YEARS AGO. Take note, they are all now in the Championship. So let's make that comparison now, or at least during the course of the current season -- fair enough. Ramon Azeez was once voted the best youngster in the whole of a season in the La Liga. So does that now make him class?
With these youngsters, we always hope for their development. Michael Olaitan also comes to mind.

And please Aina is not the best right back in the championship.
I have the whoscored Championship best XI here for this season so far.

forgiveness:
Yes! Game time can't exceed pure quality and class. In this case again Ilori is still far ahead of Dominic Iorfa and Aina(best right back in the 'championship') because with the little game time Ilori had in the Spanish LA liga he showed pure quality and class when he made the LA liga team of the weekweek (best CB in La liga) ahead of some of the best defenders in the world. Agreed!?

Remember, he didn't stop at that, he was listed twice on the best young talent of the week.

Now, be sincer. Which do you prefer btw best right back player in the championship or team of the week and best young talent of the week?


https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/1y95y8/tiago_ilori_makes_the_team_of_the_week_for_la_liga/

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2014/04/16/talent-radar-best-young-players-team-of-the-week-april-2nd-week/

true test, and we shall see

mostob:
i think Olamilekan Adeleye,stephen Eze and Ariwachukwu will be okay as backup for our oyibo wall

Exactly -- as regards those that are SE regulars, except Ogu.

Mickael2:
Mikel, Etebo, Ogu and a lot of others guys are regulars too. the only two exemptions I can think about are Onazi and Elderson, easy to figure out why they are the weak link

Shehu as well. I'm sure he is a super regular Who else are you missing?

forgiveness:
Iwobi, Ndidi, Balogun, Troost, Ebuechi, Moses, Simon and Ighalo are the only super eagle's player playing regularly and by doing very well in their various clubs.

lol

safarigirl:
dem just dey use am for training then....he won't make it past this year.


We sha appreciate his contribution to the team

I can't remember Agbo playing under Rohr if memory serves me right. He's made the bench, yes.

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He's played as a defensive midfielder most times. I remember him playing as CB a couple times when he was in Granada.

safarigirl:
I no even know which position Agbo dey play... He always gets invite, but I don't think he has played under Rohr

Alex Iwobi, third best today - versus Chelsea - in pass success rate.

Tammy will play for Nigeria

forgiveness:
I can see he is full of swagger and tricks but are we still able to lure him to play for us?

Same question for Solanke.

Of course we have some good players we are yet to invite in both the center-back and defensive midfield role.

Kog45:
My man u get eyes but to my surprise d guy is always on d list of players getting invitation,truth be told d guy lack d class.Hope Rohr find good backup for Balogun and Ekong.

That's fine.. especially after the WC draw. We don't have to win all matches. That will be the best time to have a test on how we measure up with bigger oppositions outside Africa, and fine-tune our strategies.

tbaba1234:
We got beaten right and left in the build up to USA 94 though...

Likewise Dessers, Olayinka etc should get their chance whether they make Russia or not

tbaba1234:
In the run-up to USA 94, Nigeria tested Kanu, Ojigwe, Taribo west, Joseph Odegbami, and so many fringe players. None of them made the world cup but some formed the nucleus of a future team.

Agbo no be WC material yet.

krattoss:
has boy attitude

Yes, and Esiti was on from start to finish to help Gent beat Oostende away. Moses Simon also.
Final score:
Oostende 0-2 Gent

soetanoreoluwa:
FIFA 18 Strength & Physicality : Akinfenwa Is Strongest Player, Ikpeazu & Esiti In Top Ten

Less than 13 days before the official release of EA SPORTS FIFA 18, Electronic Arts have announced the top ten players for strength and physicality, and three Nigerian players made the cut.

Cambridge United striker Uche Ikpeazu, who has been invited to the Nigeria U23 squad on more than one occasion, is the tenth strongest player in the world.

Strongest players are rated on their ability to overpower and hold off the opposition, and Ikpeazu has a 77 physicality rating.

Gent central midfielder Anderson Esiti clocks in at number nine on the list, while the title of the strongest player in the world has been retained by Wycombe Wanderers frontman Adebayo Akinfenwa, nicknamed The Beast.

Anderson Esiti ranks at number five for physicality, ahead of Marouane Fellaini and Paul Pogba (both Manchester United), Diego Costa (Chelsea) and Sead Kolašinac (Arsenal).

According to EA Sports, physicality is a measure of key physical traits such as strength, stamina, and jumping.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=24665

Why does Uche Agbo always get cautioned?

Introducing Finnish-Nigerian Left-Back, Nnaemeka Anyamele.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/nnaemeka-anyamele/leistungsdaten/spieler/224693