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Blackburn have signed Dapo Afolayan from St Pauli

This is the deal I always wanted for him. So glad for the lad.

TheSuperNerd:
Ademola Lookman to Atletico Madrid loading fast!!!

Adefire🔥🔥 to La Liga!

Di Marzio says almost done. Lookman has said OK.

okay if you think FIFA will decide just by looking at the country's laws, let's wait. I pray you are right though

Mujtahida:
It's not a question for the country because others are now involved - Nigeria, FIFA.

The problem here is how FIFA looks at it. Government is separate from FIFA. So FIFA has to go on to verify, not just relying on the country's laws then assume fraud.

in cases of property laws etc everyone is operating on the same wavelength

Mujtahida:
You just dey play with words. Grasp analogies please. You are making the point that the fact that DRC issued them passport certifies their citizenship against all rebuttals. And I'm telling you that legally speaking it's not so.

I gave an analogy to say going by your argument the same thing would apply to proof anything just because a document - whatever the name, passport oo, certificate oo is given.

It's not about age. It's about prove. I can as well say draw the same analogy in respect of land, driver's license, birth certificate.

A document is prima facie evidence but once it is challenged, you have to provide more evidence. Abeg oo.

That is the question to the country o. By their laws they shouldn't be

Mujtahida:
Fix your eye on this: dual nationality = no nationality under Congolese law. How does issuance of a passport cure that?

The question you should be asking is: are those players dual citizens?

Age is universal. Citizenship is situational. if you say by your own laws they are not citizens and country said we approved their citizenship as a special case. there is no argument based on FIFA laws, as the country is the authority

Mujtahida:
Core issue is certificate and passport.

you get point sha. The question is are the players citizens of Congo DR? Is the passport a proof that the government of Congo DR gave them special, potentially irregular, citizenship status?

Mujtahida:
Oh jeez your misconception is too loud for me to ignore. Nothing concerns fifa with Congolese laws. Fifa is concerned with eligibility based on citizenship. At that point there's a meeting point between FIFA's laws and Congolese laws. In law, we call it conflict of laws and this plays out mainly in the domain of international law.

oga law, I just got online and see all your quotes. I no get power to answer each of them. But this analogy of MRI no be good one for this matter. make you look again for yourself

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Mujtahida:
This thing is a simple point. It's not about whether they have father, mother or grandparents or ancestors from Congo. Dual citizenship is the issue. Congolese law prohibits it. And then Nigeria alleges that Congo DR used players of dual citizenship and therefore used ineligible players.

Some people argue to say ooh but Congo DR issued them passports. But then just as the soccernittygritty guy analyzed by way of extending such an argument: Take MRI cases for example. Are we saying that just because MRI scan certificates are presented by a country, that suffices? Ought we not to confirm if indeed such players are within the age bracket?

By parity of reasoning, the fact that Congo DR issued them passport is of no moment. The crux of the matter is are these players dual citizens or not. If they are. They are not Congolese citizens and therefore not eligible to play for Congo.

We did not make the rules. They made it.

simple question, what was the administrative lapse?
Did FECOFA deceive FIFA?

Ultimately, the NFF's case rests on the interpretation of whether a state-issued passport that is seemingly valid on its face can be considered "fraudulent documentation". Else, forget it!

elyte89:
As she break am down reach , u still dey ask dis question,hope say ur career has nothing to do with human life ? 🙄

What administrative requirement? is it that of FIFA or on the national side? That is the koko.

mekabuachi:
Comprehension is your problem
I'll screenshot fifa rules on eligibility, so you understand better
But let me just explain it in a lay man term:
In fifa rules being from a country is not enough
Having ties to a country is not enough
Holding/submitting a passport to fifa is not enough
The rules state that before submitting a passport to fifa all administrative requirements of that country must have been fulfilled before submitting a passport
FIFA can withdraw clearance from a player to play to play from a country if the passport He submitted to fifa if found fraudulent.

Now to the congolese case:
What is the administrative requirements for one to get a passport?
You must hold one nationality, dual nationality is not allowed, clearly stated in there constitution (administrative requirements)
Holding another passport alongside the Congolese passport, makes you not even a citizen of that country (exceptions to 21 year olds)
You can't waive a constitution or apply it to a few
A constitution is binding, it can only be replaced or amended, and this process usually take time

What's Congolese law have to do with fifa rules now?
The administrative part, congo did not fulfill the administrative part of issuing the passports, to players who are dual nationals (as these Congolese players still hold other passports)
According to fifa that's fraudulent, looks like the passport were given to the players illegally without fulfilling all administrative processes.
FIFA is still binded to a countries law, fifa laws are not above a country laws.

If after all these explanations you don't understand, YOU NEED HELP🙂

prompting Gemini further

ruling in favor of Congo DR, does not make FIFA ignore it's own laws. I don't see any potential conflicts here.

Goke7:
See there’s nothing wrong fifa ruling in Congo favour but get ready to see players playing for multiple countries and this judgement if it goes Congo way will be the final loophole countries will start exploiting Shebi na to give passport and prove connection to the country.

FIFA's law is clear. Let's wait and see. I hope we win it, but doesn't look plausible.

mank1234:
Do you know why states drags FG to court over law interpretation? If it was as clear as you put, NFF wouldn't take the matter up.

FIFA will interpreted it's law and apply it accordingly. Let's wait for them.

you want FIFA to help Congo DR apply their own laws? FIFA won't do that

mekabuachi:
*There's nothing wrong with countries relaxing their laws to accommodate sportsmen*
Do you understand what a constitution is?

With the help of Gemini I have been analyzing our case for potential precedences

There is nothing wrong with countries relaxing their laws to accomodate sportsmen. That is a national matter. All FIFA wants to know is if you have legit document that proves you are a citizen and is cleared by that country. DR Congo has their minds fixated on the intercontinental play-offs

haha.. e don tey i call this thing out. That guy is a pseudo-intellectual

semid4lyfe:
Thank you. Verbose write-up from Solace . As usual, talking too much but saying nothing meaningful really.....

I wish Osimhen would just sent Oliseh a message, "You no see ya mate, Pape Thiaw?.. your own na to talk like parrot".

Odunayaw:
Ndidi: We settled it
Awaziem: We settled it
Lookman: We settled it
Osimhen: We settled it

Oliseh: It wasn't settled. It affected Lookman.

It's not ego, it's a superiority complex.

na FIFA law you dey quote or Congolese national law?

Modified
I am saying the players in question have a clear biological connection to the DR Congo, so your comment about countries just picking players from other countries and giving them passports does not apply here.

Modified 2
Okay I get your original comment now. But why will that be a problem if the players have strong biological connection to the countries?

AAA593:
Children born abroad to Congolese parents or grand parents who gain citizenship in their country of birth can retain it until age 21, after which they must choose one nationality. Those guys pass age 21 and Dem still be citizens of those countries o

But don't the DR Congo players also meet FIFA's eligibility in terms of country of origin. parent. grandparents link bla bla bla?

AAA593:
There are so many countries that don't accept dual citizenship and if FIFA decide to rule in favour of DRC Congo, it will cause problems in the future. Countries will start issuing passport to players they like not minding their constitutional requirements for citizenship. If I like you, I give you passport and FIFA go approve am sharp sharp

Comparing Malaysia precedent with that of Nigeria's ongoing petition (Gemini)

lol.. how many goals have Akpom scored this season?

Bossoflife25:
When I saw Akpom and Eletu, I just jumped and pass!

Orban is not similar to Lookman. He is an out-and-out striker

Hardrive:
Some other players that should get a look in Chuba Akpom = Second striker back up for akor.
Bob Murphy omoregbe = Right wing option or possible replacement for Moses Simon.
Victor Eletu= Time to time call up to get used to the eagles setup.
Sani Suleiman= Replacement for Moses Simon
Gift Orban= Lookman's back up behind the 2 strikers.

Is a question of if he is on form or not. And if he is on form, is he better than the competition? Agreed, there should be no mention of Ihaenacho for now, but it should not be implied that he is finished, until it is obvious.

SymphonyRad:
This isn't about age, it's about recycling the same players we've known for years...Iheanacho has always been one of my favorite players but his work rate is poor and we've been through that route already with players with those attributes, no disrespect to senior man but I struggle to see anything new and interesting he can offer us at this point. Sometimes it's just best to close the chapter on certain things.

Bro Iheanacho is truly not old yet

SymphonyRad:
Una no dey rate Nigeria for this subforum sha, Onuachu as how? Did you watch how ridiculously bad he was vs Egypt in our 3rd place match ...na so another person take mention Iheanacho making a comeback, in 2026? why not then bring back or unretire the likes of Ahmed Musa, Ighalo, Awoniyi and other players who are in the football twilight of their playing careers.. exciting football no dey sweet una otherwise we should be talking about building around Osimhen, Akor and then others like Gift Orban, Rafiu Durosinmi, Philip Otele, Sani Suleman, Njinmah, Femi Azeez, Shola Shoretire and if NFF are serious try court Ethan Nwaneri, Rio Ngumoha, George Ilenikhena, Emmanuel Emegha and other dual nationals who will elevate our attacking options to a 100... players like Onuachu and Moses Simon should be phased out respectfully in 2026, dem don try.

Well said on Uche. I still believe he is the missing link in that midfield/team. No other player matches his profile.

Onuachu brings something different to the team. He is a proven goalscorer. It's just a matter of the team adapting his style when he is on the pitch.

TheSuperNerd:
Uche for Onyeka is also a very good call. Uche can also fill into the Iwobi role due to his strong ball carrying and creative instincts as well. He can be groomed to fill in either roles as he is naturally a deeplying and box to box midfield monster.
Funny thing about Uche is he can also cover the Lookman role as he is comfortable playing close to the box too.
Uche is a multifaceted weapon but covering for the Onyeka role seems like his best fit but keeping in mind he can be just as effective in the other roles.


As for the CF role, I am still not exactly sold on Onuachu hence why I say solid 4 options needed aside Osimhen and Akor.

no we cannot. I mean we can but let's just do it for formality.

Hardrive:
Can we reach out to the Liverpool guy Rio ngumoha to see if he would be interested in playing for us.

The problem with this monkey thing is that we also have white monkeys. Why can't blacks put those on their faces. Them go find another thing

BankyGee:
Moroccans have flooded Stanley Nwabali's Instagram comments section with monkey emojis and racist comments. Funny people.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3IVucUIKO0/?igsh=MWh2a2JzdjZwYjdxZg==

33 sef. Because when one injure you still have solid depth

Mujtahida:
This should be the next phase of Chelle's plan. Now we have a football identity. We have our play. Next thing is to build a formidable squad. I don't want us to even have a first 11. We should have a first 22.

Iheanacho issue na either fitness or lack of hunger -- most likely both. A friend said he is old. We know that is not true esp in this thread

Moniter0:
may God remember Iheanacho and restore his form. Having an in-form Iheanacho and Lookman for that role behind the two strikers will be a very big boost to the team. Any shot on target from an in-form Iheanacho is goal, plus his defense-splitting and pinpoint passes.

Funny I was about to do something similar to this.

I will say Onyedika is a perfect replacement for Ndidi, if not better when not playing against high pressing teams. How about Uche to deputize Onyeka, considering strength and ball carrying abilities.

I think Chukwueze is the closest to Lookman in that role.

At CF, I will say we have solid 3. Onuachu should definitely be in.

I'm not sold on our wingers yet. Moses should be phased out soon.

TheSuperNerd:
Backline is sorted.

Nigeria can comfortably line up 2 different back fours now.

In midfield, we need to get the backup profiles sorted. Iwobi's backup still not sorted. Onyeka's too. Even Ndidi's as Onyedika should not be the one and only fallback option in Ndidi's absence as he still matures.

More Midfield options to consider specifically for the diamond setup are Akinsanmiro for Iwobi's role, David Moses of Slavia Prague for Onyeka's role, Nnadi and Dennis for Ndidi's role, and much more options touching all the midfield roles in the diamond.

In attack... Lookman needs a solid backup. The 4312/442 diamond sees Lookman sit in the hole behind the strikers but also has the license to roam across the entire final third seeing him pop up dangerously across in gaps centrally, in the halfspaces or wingwards.
Who steps into this role when Lookman sits it out for even one game? Chukwueze is an option but we need more.

The 2 man attack.. Osimhen and Akor... We need 4 solid options aside Victor and Adams. Badass options. CF combos that sync nicely and can possibly sync with the main man Victor.

The Project Solid 22 is on.

I like the way you answered this gbamatically

Dannyxy:
then don’t owe them, pay them.

All this talk of bleed this that, no one will bleed for you if you can’t do the basic.


Pay your players, pay your coaches stop eating their money . Stop excusing corruption stop excusing mediocrity on the blackmail of fake patriotism, show patriotism by actually taking care of those who bleed for you, smaller countries are not even this embarrassing.

Set up structures, build stadiums, get infrastructure, not hoping on the players so it every time on their, come to camp with their own money, stay in low budget hotels.