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menxer:
@bolded, that tells a lot about your brand of Christianity, saying what I did not say so as to force me to respond.
Where did I say that? Or you are having trouble understanding Basic use of English?

This is why I said arguing with you is a waste of energy.

your first post to me in a while and of course it's a lie

your interperation of Mat 10:16 was that wise as serpents was referring to satan
becaus in genesis the serpent is said to be the wisest of beings
and you said: "why would the Bible, in another place, admonish us to be as wise as the Serpent"

well the Bible doesn't admonish us to be wise as "the" serpent
Jesus said to be "wise as serpents"

[color=#808080]Mat 10:16[/color] Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

menxer:
Good.

I for one have my own interpretations that makes sense to me.
For instance, in Genesis, the Serpent is said to be (1) the wisest of beings (2) the deceiver.

I choose to understand that to mean the Serpent was the wisest being and decipherer of mysteries.
As you need wisdom to decipher anything, else why would the Bible, in another place, admonish us to be as wise as the Serpent?

menxer:
In the context of this OP, I choose to interpret the "single eye" to mean third eye.

and in your confusion and lies you go from "the serpent" to "the third eye"

Babacele:
they ain't just common sayings and the master didn't just use words but truths which may be strange to the public but not to some. Absolutely being wise as ' serpent' has a spiritual meaning which Christ could only have used for the trained which were the disciples.
Emblem of Wisdom by who, in the Bible? Oh so if it isn't wiser than other animals why would anyone use it as a symbol of wisdom?

you are running away from the issue:
Jesus wasn't saying to be wise like satan as you and menxer were implying

[color=#808080]Mat 10:16[/color] Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Babacele:
I used 'the serpent' to represent all forms of serpents ( snakes and dragons) which is a code for can you tell me from the Bible evidences of the animal serpent's wise exploits and precedence that would have Christ conferred wisdom to it like all the adepts before Him and long before the Abrahamic religions?

you say you were referring to all forms of snakes and dragons, and yet you wrote: "the" serpent

which menxer described as satan, and in the very same sentence you ask me to tell you from the Bible evidences of the serpent's wise exploits and precedence that would have Christ conferred wisdom to it

so concerning mat 10:16 you say you were referring to snakes and dragons as being wise
then in the same sentence you ask a question implying that serpents are not wise

your post is confused, but agreeing with menxer at times and mixing third eye sect beliefs with the Bible will do that


[color=#808080]Mat 10:16[/color] Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

menxer said serpents in that verse is satan
you baba said we are to be wise like "the" serpent(satan)

menxer:
Good.

I for one have my own interpretations that makes sense to me.
For instance, in Genesis, the Serpent is said to be (1) the wisest of beings (2) the deceiver.

I choose to understand that to mean the Serpent was the wisest being and decipherer of mysteries.
As you need wisdom to decipher anything, else why would the Bible, in another place, admonish us to be as wise as the Serpent?

Mainstream Christianity interprets Serpent to mean snake, Satan, deceiver,

Serpent in other ancient cultures symbolizes wisdom, just as it symbolizes medical wisdom in our time.

In the context of this OP, I choose to interpret the "single eye" to mean third eye.

Babacele:
have you forgotten Christ told us to be wise as the serpent...

Jesus would not use satan to tell anyone who to be like
He would have better said: be wise like solomom
but He used animal life to make His point: snakes, doves, sheep and wolves
by the way, Jesus was not talking about the Holy Spirit when He mentioned doves

wise like serpents harmless like doves are sayings
serpents have always been an emblem of wisdom and cunning
just as doves are said to be gentle and harmless, in the wild they are no different to sparrows or pigeons

they are just common sayings
a snake isn't more wise than many animals, but they are wise enough like many animals though, to get out of the way of humans etc.

menxer:
You are right, for the darkness of ignorance cannot comprehend the glorious light that the third eye sees.

ha ha, when are you going to start showing some of that glorious light

xcolanto was talking about the light-goodness, which you know nothing about
you know about darkness-evil

God, and God's word haters, are full of darkness-evil;

[color=#808080]Mat_6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!


and it's already been seen that you have been blinded:

[color=#808080]2Co_4:4[/color]  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

don't be afraid to post to me menxer, instead of sneaking in your snide remarks in others posts

you menxer know all about a fool in his folly, and a coward in his cowardice
work on having some courage

menxer:
But Someone is splitting proton, that:
serpents = wisdom
Serpent = Satan

Which would mean that:
gods = good
God = evil

you sure are still confused and lacking in wisdon and knowledge,
and along with that deceiving-lying

no wonder you won't post the quote you are talking of,
you would be shot down in flames, wouldn't you

Babacele:
have you forgotten Christ told us to be wise as the serpent...

Christ never told us to be wise as "the" serpent(satan),

but you will have your reward for changing what Jesus Christ said

menxer:
Good.

I for one have my own interpretations that makes sense to me.
For instance, in Genesis, the Serpent is said to be (1) the wisest of beings (2) the deceiver.

I choose to understand that to mean the Serpent was the wisest being and decipherer of mysteries.
As you need wisdom to decipher anything, else why would the Bible, in another place, admonish us to be as wise as the Serpent?

Mainstream Christianity interprets Serpent to mean snake, Satan, deceiver,

Serpent in other ancient cultures symbolizes wisdom, just as it symbolizes medical wisdom in our time.

In the context of this OP, I choose to interpret the "single eye" to mean third eye.

menxer:
I acknowledged that fact.

So if the Serpent = Satan = deceiver, why would Jesus Christ tell us to be like it?

Jesus didn't tell His apostles to be wise like the serpent-satan-deceiver, but you menxer certinally are a deceiver

Jesus said to be wise as serpents, He didn't say to be wise as "the" serpent(satan)

even the most foolish would know that Jesus wouldn't say "be wise as satan"
so you blinded third eye believers must be the most duh of all people

Mat 10:16  Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
 
only the blinded and deceivers can say the verse is referring to satan
serpents have always been an emblem of wisdom and cunning

but those who love to purposefully give false meaning to God's word will have their reward:

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

menxer:
You are wasting your energy, if you think you can extricate yourself from the paradox of Proverbs 26:4-5.

you menxer should know all about a fool

Babacele:
the scriptures that the Pharisees have been reading and quoting irrelevantly until God sent Christ ? What scriptures did Moses and Abraham read before God talked to them? The truth like the sun has been from the beginning long before any man made design or scriptures.

well i'm sure you think that's very nice,
but it doesn't address my post at all:

Babacele:
.....today a stupid person uses a microphone or telephone to condemn telepathy , clairvoyance and similar stuffs that have given birth to the technology he enjoys

truly, this is the stupidity of the third eye sect beliefs vvv:

Babacele:
menxer only drew our attention to an original truth that transcends the claims of stupid religious fanatism.....such pearls as the 3rd eye is what Christ warn us not to throw to swines hence He kept a secret training.

[color=#808080]Mat 7:6[/color] Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

what is holy, is truth-the scriptures-God's word
Jesus said not to give them to the dogs and swine
for they will trash them and turn again and attack you

that's exactly what the third eye sect do here in this thread

menxer:
You are just positioning yourself for more insults.

All those were what the church demonised and condemned to burning during the inquisition, when it controlled the world in the dark age (just imagine!)

Religious fanaticism is a disease second only to a blinded third eye.

you call the truth insults, i already know that

but you cannot help but lie:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Babacele:
.....today a stupid person uses a microphone or telephone to condemn telepathy , clairvoyance and similar stuffs that have given birth to the technology he enjoys

truly, this is the stupidity of the third eye sect beliefs vvv:

Babacele:
menxer only drew our attention to an original truth that transcends the claims of stupid religious fanatism.....such pearls as the 3rd eye is what Christ warn us not to throw to swines hence He kept a secret training.

[color=#808080]Mat 7:6[/color]  Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

what is holy, is truth-the scriptures-God's word
Jesus said not to give them to the dogs and swine
for they will trash them and turn again and attack you

that's exactly what the third eye sect do here in this thread

ashjay001:

Luk 11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light;

This speaks to d third eye opening. Naturally, most are calcified.

but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

And, I believe ds is d caveat. "but when thine eye is evil". It has already been decalcified, by being single, but when u av that which has evil intentions, even when u access it, u remain filled with darkness

My take, anyway

it does appear though that your brain has become highly calcified

ashjay001:
Intellectual pretender!

Shift go front joor

you are so duh you cannot even pretend to be intellectual

Babacele:
menxer only drew our attention to an original truth that transcends the claims of stupid religious fanatism.....such pearls as the 3rd eye is what Christ warn us not to throw to swines hence He kept a secret training.

^^^ such is the stupidity of the third eye sect beliefs

ashjay001:


Fool!

Twice, u spelt 'interested' wrong. I used it too, hoping u will be discerning enough to decode. U didnt, n still went ahead to use it twice!?

And, i'm here trying to reason with u on a profound religious discourse?! Sorry abeg! Excuse my naivety!

naivety is much to leanient to describe your utter confusion
buy it will do, i'm not wasting time at the moment thinking of another

menxer:
I have nothing else to say to you, since you are the sole authority in Hebrew language interpretation.

i don't agree with you on that, i'm not even an authority in Hebrew language interpretation,
let alone the soul authority

ashjay001:
Yeah, that true God created only jews n xtians!?

no, God created all people, you are still confused

ashjay001:
Abi jew self no go make heaven? Since dey are not christians?

there is coming a time when many jews will come to faith in Jesus Christ

look it up if you are interisted

i'm not interisted in wasting much time in giving pearls to the swines

ashjay001:
Bloody hypocrite! U claim I was un-enlighten because I insulted u. But, u see nothing wrong in u insulting me?!


For all I care, u can die with d bible up ur ass!? Who e epp? Ur loss fa!

Can u kindly carry ur myopic, hypocritical, blockheaded self out of this thread n let us commune in peace?!

For eons, ur God hasnt destroyed satan! He created satan too! For eons(billions of years), he didnt see it fit to destroy satan. But, on d say so of hallucinating fools like u, he will wake up one day n kill him?!

if i said you are un enlightened it's because you are,
i don't care to much about your insults

and if you have taken the truth to be insults
that's your not wanting to see the truth

ashjay001:
True that.

My pain is, it will just take a tiny leap of faith, for them to discover their spirituality, they will never take it!

there is only one true faith, and that is faith in the one true God (Ephesians 4)

menxer:
@bolded, That is his speciality.

not true, but then lying is your specialty:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

ashjay001:
Now, these prophets, have a special spirit, that God can communicate with. Since not everyone receives visions n prophecies from him.

Now, op, has come to tell us, how to open up our mind spirits for direct communication with God! It really doesnt even have to be ur God sef.


Would u, in the name of ur God, allow op to continue? As it is,

i told menxer if he wrongly uses God's word to foster his unbibical
beliefs that i will address it

he keeps bringing up God's word and i keep addressing the matter

and menxer posts to me and i reply

so what are you talking about, it looks like you have caught the confused xer bug

ashjay001:
he has spent like 4 pages going round in circles, trying to reason with ur irrational thoughts!?

U're part of d evil spirits, sent to divert men, from the pursuit of true knowledge!

U no wan chop, yet pple wey wan chop, u dey hold their hand!

there is more of your garbage that i'm not interisted right now in replying much to

ashjay001:
Yep! I guess ur God is cruel enough to destroy d work of his hands.

God will destroy satan who tried to put himself above Him
and he will destroy all those who follow satan

ashjay001:
I have asked u several questions, u sidestepped them.

it was probably garbage, or i wasn't interisted in what you had to say

ashjay001:
U really are just an empty barrel, lots of noise!

Will just, in d name of ur faith, leave us to our ways? U've wasted enough of our time already, nobody begrudges u, ur fanaticism.

If u need to defend ur bible, u can take it up with d muslim brotherhood. They claim ur Jesus was just a prophet. His birth wasnt immaculate.

Op here, only said Jesus's reference to a single eye, referenced d mystic third eye, dazzol.

Abeg shift. Who are u to stand in judgement over him sef?

^^^ that's the kind of garbage i wouldn't waste time answering

Babacele:
were Pharisees and saduccees who came under Jesus constant hammering unbelievers?

of course they were unbelievers, do you think that the pharisees who said that Jesus done His miracles through the power of the devil, are believers?

Babacele:
are you not aware of the parable of the good Samaritan; Jesus dining with sinners and tax collectors; His acknowledgment of the faiths of the centurion and other so called unbelievers?

don't you know that Jesus came to save sinners:

[color=#808080]Mar_2:17[/color]  When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Babacele:
Swines are a metaphor for those who don't value truth and are not ready to learn.

they don't value truth and they change it, and attack you with it
such as the third eye menxer and mob do here with posted scriptures.


"neither cast ye your pearls" before swine, "lest they trample them under their feet", and turn again and rend you."

..."the holy scriptures "........................"change what the scriptures say"......"and throw them back at you".

menxer:
pay attention to the bolded:


The Oxford English Dictionary on Historical Principles (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1933), tells us that the word Jesus came into the English language from Middle English, adapted from the Latin Iesus, which in turn was adapted from the Greek Iesous. This in turn was adapted from the Hebrew or Aramaic word Yeshua or Yehoshua. The earlier root was Joshua. This dictionary goes on to explain that the word Joshua derived from the Jah of Jahveh, meaning that “Jehovah is salvation.” Thus, the word “Jesus” has parallel meaning with Savior. Dr. David Flusser of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem puts it simply: “Jesus is the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.” (Encyclopedia Judaica, Jerusalem: Keter Publishing House, Ltd., 1971, 10:10.)


You can check up the meaning of "parallel"

ha ha, in your confusion and dishonesty you try to have the words "Salvation" and "Saviour"
to mean something other than what they mean

truly as i already said: Yeshua means salvation, and it's referring to the act of saving
and truly as i already said: Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus

johnw74:
Hebrew words have meanings
Yeshua means salvation, it is Yeshua who saves

where as Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus



you don't even know simple grammar very well

it's amazing, the very simple things that you ask to be explained

menxer:
1. And as wise as you claim, you can't differentiate between salvation and Saviour?

2. The Bible was written in allegory just like other ancient scriptures, and allegories can be interpreted on many levels.
The problem is you are stuck on giving it a literal physical interpretation.

3. The Story of Moses is the story of our lives, untill we confront our challenges and limitations from or with the I AM Consciousness nothing changes.

4. I AM that I AM is putting the toroidal nature of Consciousness in words.

5. That's too deep for you to comprehend, I expect you to rend it to shreds.

1. i have done that but neither you or your third eye can see it

2. much of the Bible is literal and it's easy to see where it is figurative,
not for you, i know

3. your I AM Conciousness is just new age nonsense of taking things from the Bible
and giving them diffrent meanings, and starting new sects and sectarial beliefs
of course it's satans doing to deceive you from the truth



4. one would think that God saying:

"Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

would tell one that "I AM" is God's name, but not you, you have been blinded
and your third eye only sees darkness:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat_6:23 But if thine eye(the things you look for-affections-desire) be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

5. deeply confused is what it is

menxer:
the difference between salvation and Saviour is what?

that was a late addition to your post
and you really don't know

Hebrew words have meanings
Yeshua means salvation, it is Yeshua who saves

where as Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus



you don't even know simple grammar very well

it's amazing, the very simple things that you ask to be explained

menxer:
You can extrapolate from there.

ha ha, as you see the extrapolating-confused conjecture, is still all yours

menxer:
1. And Jesus means what?

Hahahahaha



2. I AM Consciousness means acting in and with the consciousness that you are the I AM.

Let me use a mundane example: I AM the Creator of this thread, I AM the only one who can change the content of the OP.
You can extrapolate from there.

1. duh, again Yeshua-Jesus means Salvation

i'm sure it's a fool who laughs at his own confusion



2. "I AM" all capitalised is a name for God-Yahovah

(Exo 3:13)  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
(Exo 3:14)  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

if you are talking about yourself then it is "I am"



you are still on that same path of getting it wrong

menxer:
I asked you the mechanism of how inspiration is recieved, you say it's by thought.
SMH

you asked "how did the writers of the Bible receive the inspiration?"

and you menxer shake your head at truth, of course you do
i would ask for your opinion but i'm not intrested in it


God personally told moses what to say, while other prophets had dreams and visions from God, those dreams and visions of the prophets of course come from the mind
God's Spirit-mind gives prophecy to the prophets spirit-mind:

2Pe 1:20  Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 
2Pe 1:21  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost,
God's spirit in them, spoke to their spirit through thought, that's how the mind works

not having God's Spirit you would not know that

menxer:
Jesus means saviour and the only one that will save you is your I AM Consciousness, which you must accept, and you can't have that understanding without a blooming pineal gland.

Yeshua means Salvation, He is the one who saves,
I AM Consciousness is being aware of I AM, your being aware of I AM does not save you,
I AM, that is God Himsel, saves

you different sect believers have things in common
one of them is taking words and expressions from the Bible and using them for yourselves
but using them wrongly, giving them diffrent meanings to what the Bible does
but that is the way of satan, taking some truth from the Bible and then changing it to a lie

satan is where your so called enlightment which is darkness comes from;

[color=#808080]Mat_6:23[/color]  But if thine eye(the things you look for-affections-desire) be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

you get your insperation from your god:

[color=#808080]Joh_8:44[/color]  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

ashjay001:
U've lost out! To live thru life without enlightment!

it can be seen by language alone who has, and who hasn't enlightment:

ashjay001:
Just gtf off this thread n go bury ur head in ur bible! Ignorant mofo!

ashjay001:
U're fecking kidding me right?!

ashjay001:
He hasnt told u to bring sh*t!?

sorry ashjay U've lost out!

menxer:
I am reminded of the Bible admonishment not to give pearls to swine, because it won't appreciate it.

How are we to know the swines amongst men if not by their comments, after the Pearl is given them?

for instance their comments showing their hate for God,
yes i agree with you totally menxer, it shows we can know who the swine are amongst men:

menxer:
the only way to see the God or the heaven you talk so passionately about

menxer:
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OK, word of God defender