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The Bible talks about it, when Jesus said, "if thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be filled with light."

The Bible and Jesus never talked anything about a third eye,

Jesus was saying "if your eye is good, then your whole body will be light".



How we see things can effect what we do and who we are, good or evil

Luk 11:34  The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

MrPresident1:
You will not understand the nature and subject and perspectives of biblical prophecies until you correctly situate the people the Bible is primarily addressed to. If you fail to do this, your knowledge will at best be peripheral, this is fact.

Sorry about your 'hard' life, lol. What do you know about hard life?

the Bible primarily addresses Israel, yes

and you haven't given scriptures supporting what you say,
the verses you do post, don't show at all that Israel are the negros.

You have done a lot of false accusing though, im sure there are points from the devil for that

and falsely accusing is the sort of thing that the spiritually dead do <<< you belief that negros are spiritually dead
i'm not saying i agree with you, just that you may be

MrPresident1:
Zephaniah 3:10
10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.



All this long long things to prove that Jesus is not darkskinned then he turns around to ask the significance of Jesus' skin colour, then he tries to prove that Jesus is white. You find it difficult to believe and agree abi?

@underline, Jesus according to scripture, I don't think was black,
and again, to me it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was

MrPresident1:
After living all your life in the fake belief that you are the superior race, you now find it galling that you will have to bow to darkskinned Jesus, nothing you can do 'bout it. We were in tribulation, that is why whitey was allowed some time in the sun. The tribulation has ended, and we will reclaim what is ours

Jesus is darkskinned , you accept or you reject is your business. He says that the daughter of His dispersed will bring his offerings from beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, does this sound like Europe?

Even Benjamin Netanyahu came to tell us that 'Israel is RETURNING BACK to Africa in a BIG way'.

@boldunderline, did i say that?


I'm sure some of israel went to africa, and to all parts of the world,
buy according to Isaiah the major part went north and west

MrPresident1:
Ezekiel 37:11-14
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the LordGod; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lordhave spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.



The dead in Christ is made up of 2 categories of people, the Negroes who are presently hid in mental graves, mentally and spiritually dead; and gentiles who received the message of the gospel during the tribulation of the Negroes.

again, i'm sure it's clear to every Christian that the dead in Christ is believers who have died,
and not the spiritually dead. Truly the dead in Christ-believers who have died, are spiritually alive.

MrPresident1:
Everything the Black man has suffered in the hands of the whiteman is the tribulation. It has now ended, it will NEVER happen again.

The end time great tribulation before the return of Christ has not begun,
these things have not happened, and these things are even before the Trumpet judgments and vials:

Rev 6:12  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 
Rev 6:13  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 
Rev 6:14  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 
Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 
Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 
Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

MrPresident1:
satan, is the prince of the power of the air, the spirit now working in the children of disobedience, the coming of Jesus is his displacement from authority forever, no one is disappearing to anywhere in the rapture.

Really:
 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

MrPresident1:
Now is Christ risen from the dead and become the firsfruits of them that slept
We that are alive unto the coming of Christ
Everyman in his own order christ the firstfruits afterward those that are Christ's at his coming
All Israel will be saved

Look at these 4 verses very well let me show you their relationship. Israel went into the grave, the firstfruits to wake up from that spiritual mental grave are the firstfruits, this is Christ. It is these people which includes Paul that Paul is now saying of them "we that are alive unto the coming of Christ...", now everyman will wake up in his own order, Christ the firstfruits. It is when Christ now comes that the Batch B will now wake up. Batch A are the firstfruits. Batch B is made up of all Israel, and every other person that accepted the gospel during the tribulation.

All Israel will be saved. Israel or the Negroes have already undergone their own judgment, and this was their tribulation.

I think some negros are part of Israel, but the majority of the northern tribes of Israel moved north west,
because according to a prophecy yet to be fulfilled, that is where they will be returning from:

Isa 49:12  They will come from far away. They will come from the north and from the west, and they will come from the land of Sinim. 

they return from the north and the west which would be europe and places along the way,
back into the land of Israel

jiggaz:
That's nice.... So u like Nigeria?

thanks

jiggaz:
Did u say u are white? I mean Caucasian? I thought u were Nigerian?

yes Caucasian

MrPresident1:
You cannot understand these things until you accept that Jesus is a Negro, and then start reading the Bible with understanding. If you do not know the people the Bible is addressed to, how can you understand the nature subject and perspectives of the prophecies?

At the last trump
Cyrus the giver of freedom to the Jews was named by name 100years before he was born
the trumpet shall sound
the trumpet is a rallying sound, to war, to arise, to call to attention etc
the dead shall be raised
The Negroes are the dead people of the Bible, the living breathing but spiritually dead people. They will rise again at the blast of the trumpet.
We shall be changed
Mortality will be exchanged for immortality
Read Ezekiel 37.

the dead in Christ rise at the trump of God, not spiritually dead people

(1Th 4:16)  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(1Th 4:17)  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

MrPresident1:
Jesus is darkskinned. If you do not accept it, you can never know what is inside the Bible, your knowledge will at best be peripheral.

your knowledge of the Bible isn't crash hot that's for sure:

MrPresident1:
Lamentations 5:10
10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

Job 30:30
My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

Lamentations 4:8
Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

THEIR VISAGE IS BLACKER THAN A COAL!!!!

WAKE UP NOW!!!!!

does it matter what color Jesus skin was?

but your posted verses show that Jesus fore fathers were white(verse 7), before God at that time caused them
to suffer famine due to their sins


they were compared to fine gold, verse 2

they are punished for their sins, verse 6

they were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk verse 7

Their visage is become blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. verse 8

They that be slain with the sword are better than they that be slain with hunger: for these pine away, stricken through for want of the fruits of the field. verse 9


read all of chapter 4



again, why was their skin black?
A. because of the terrible famine

Lam 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.



Job 30:30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

job's skin is black and his bones burned with heat because of the
curses and diseases God has allowed satan to inflict on him.




Lam 4:7  Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy(pink) in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

the blood shows through many white people giving them a ruddy(pink) appearance



also read the book of job

MrPresident1:
Jesus is darkskinned. If you do not accept it, you can never know what is inside the Bible, your knowledge will at best be peripheral.

it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was, and knowledge of the Bible is not
attained by knowing what color skin Jesus had, that statement is lacking in wisdom

my skin is darker than many black people because of the sun and working outdoors
and a hard life, but i'm white

MrPresident1:
You cannot understand these things until you accept that Jesus is a Negro, and then start reading the Bible with understanding. If you do not know the people the Bible is addressed to, how can you understand the nature subject and perspectives of the prophecies?

At the last trump
Cyrus the giver of freedom to the Jews was named by name 100years before he was born
the trumpet shall sound
the trumpet is a rallying sound, to war, to arise, to call to attention etc
the dead shall be raised
The Negroes are the dead people of the Bible, the living breathing but spiritually dead people. They will rise again at the blast of the trumpet.
We shall be changed
Mortality will be exchanged for immortality
Read Ezekiel 37.

you may play around with God's word(the Bible) until it's to late for you
your mouth won't be trumpeting then that's for sure

brocab:
Interesting...You believe the Angel spoke to John in 1:12 It must of been the angel that John seen too in all his glory.Good bye

yes Jesus angel was in the Spirit, angels usually are

for the fourth time:

good riddance,
and don't slam the door on your way out

brocab:
I haven't replied these things to try and help you, because you are lost and beyond help
i have told you to show you once again how you have been blinded,
although i'm sure you cannot see it

so once again you are copycatting what i said, you have no truth to say

brocab:
So you would rather use the Word of God as your tool to attack the believers. Finely you have told the truth.

i use the word of God to post the truth
and again you are not a believer but instead you reject
God's word and Jesus Christ, as shown to you many times
but you cannot stop lying and falsely accusing

brocab:
End of story-I have finished trying to get the Word of God from you, All I have learn from you is insults bullying and abuse.

and that's just another lie

but for the third time i will say again:

good riddance,
and don't slam the door on your way out

brocab:
No-one is interested in your bad language-just answer the question who spoke to John and when?

you call the truth bad language liecab, but then all you can do is lie

who spoke to Jesus you say how many times have i said Jesus Angel, read the above post
i said it again there oh blinded one

brocab:
I am not understanding how you read your bible? And who is Jesus angel?

duh you say liecab, who is Jesus Angel

He is the Angel that Jesus sent to John to give Him the revelation that the Father gave to Jesus

Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

brocab:
{Revelation 1:1} Are you saying the angel didn't speak a word to John, and the first Word spoken was only in 1:12?[/color]

duh it was Jesus angel that spoke to John, you are blinded to absolutely everything

brocab:
And if you think God is in your picture calling me names of insults and abuse of bullying-then think again.

everything i have said to you is the truth, but you don't know anything about that





I haven't replied these things to try and help you, because you are lost and beyond help
i have told you to show you once again how you have been blinded,
although i'm sure you cannot see it

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

brocab:
Are you now trying to hide behind God after you insulted and abuse me-Do you actually believe God is involved with you, after you keep on ripping down one of His children, you don't really believe God is actually in this picture?
"Who are you trying to fool, I already know why you couldn't give a direct answer to 1:12 because you didn't know it?
You kept on repeating yourself, giving me [Revelation 1:1, 22:16} these verses were your answer-and giving me these verses shows you believed John seen the angel when he turned around-and this is why you went over the top insulting and abusing me-because you wanted me to see, what you had seen.
Praise the Lord for His Word, you aren't fooling Him, and you aren't fooling me neither.
I myself have learnt a lot more about the word of God by others on this forum-but sadly I didn't learn from you..
After everyone who had read your pages-I am sure they wouldn't want me too...

how pathetic, although God would be good to hide behind if needed, but then you have nothing truthful to say

of course it's just the usual lies and false accusations

the Lord knows i haven't tried to fool Him, but you don't stop lying and don't care that He hears you
and you love to falsely accuse

truly i have answered the rev questions but you have been blinded,
and you oh liar do not answer the rev questions and keep running away from them,
like: where are the scriptures showing that John heard two voices,
and where are the scriptures showing an angel was besides John when he heard another voice
you said i admitted John was talking to Jesus(not Jesus Angel) i'm still waiting for you to post these things oh whopping big fibber

^^^ see how you lie all the time, and then accuse me of that lie

and truly liars are not children of God, u deceive yourself

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

brocab:
{verse 12} John seen and heard another voice

brocab:
while John was in the spirit-he heard another voice

John turned as John heard another voice

John only heard one voice, that of Jesus Angel
but you liecab don't believe God's word and add to it

Rev 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

brocab:
you have admitted John was talking with Jesus

that's of course just another lie from you liecab,
i'm still waiting for you to post where i alledgely admitted that,
but you cannot because it's just more lying from the son of the father of lies

liecab you also posted that John heard two voices,
and i'm still waiting for you to post scripture that shows that,
but you cannot because it's just more lying from you,
who when you speak a lie you are just speaking naturally

liecab you also said an angel was beside John when he heard another voice behind him
i'm still waiting for the verses showing that to,
but you cannot because it's just more lying from a son of the devil

[color=#008080]Joh_8:44[/color]  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



you liecab lie continually, and even say that God's word say's things
which are in fact not said in the Bible

brocab:
Men will be lovers of themselves He is Proud knowing nothing but is absessed with deputes and arguments over words, from which comes envy. strife, reviling evil suspicions, useless men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth...
No-one is interested in your lies and wonders...

liecab because i show up how you lie very much, you then throw back false accusations that i'm lying,
adding more lies to your already very black record, and you think that God doesn't see or hear,
or you don't care that God sees and hears, bad for you

@black, of course you cannot stop lying and falsely accusing, post after post, page after page, day after day,
as you liecab are a son of the father of lies:

[color=#008080]Joh_8:44[/color]  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


@blue, you know you are speaking of yourself there liecab, it's how you are all the time

the trump of God is an actual trumpet, not a man

1Co_15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

if you are a Christian then you should consider what God said about homosexual acts
if u r a Christian then u have to try and resist those acts
just as if you were a thief, u would have to try and resist stealing

if u r not a Christian then u may not care about what God said



Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mar 10:7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

Lev 18:22 You shall not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination to God.

(Rom 1:26) For this reason God allowed their shameful passions to control them. Their women have exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
(Rom 1:27) Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual relations with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts with men, so they experience among themselves the punishment they deserve for their perversion.
(Rom 1:28) And because they thought it was worthless to acknowledge God, God allowed their own immoral minds to control them. So they do these indecent things.



2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

brocab:
End of argument finely you have come to your senses-finely you have read the scriptures and you have admitted John was talking with Jesus in 1:12.
How long had It taken you to write such, and how long did I have to wait-for your answer-you didn't know the answer-until you read the scriptures, Just in your own words-Your argument was your own-end of story.
Now kept your abusive nature to yourself-since you love bringing people down-without a reason-don't write to me anymore-don't engage on whom I write to on this forum..I am not interested with your insults and with your lies you like to spread around without a cause..

of course more of the usual lies from the son of the father of lies


false accuser liecab, i didn't say that at all, but as well as being blinded you love to lie over and over again
in your every post, see how you haver been blinded, ha ha no you cannot see anything can you liecab

read my post again(below), but alas it won't make a diffrence to you, oh blinded lying false accuser

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw74:
showing more of your lies liecab

you say liecab that in rev 1:12 it was Jesus who spoke to John
even though God's word and Jesus Christ said that Jesus Angel was sent to testified to John

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Jesus Angel testified as if He was Jesus, just as the Angel of the Lord
testified to Israel as if He was the LORD:

Jdg_2:1 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

you liecab keep saying two voices spoke to John which is ridiculous, and of course you cannot post scripture showing that

you liecab do not believe God's word and Jesus Christ
and like so many, are deceived into thinking you are a christian
you lie in most every post, taking after your god:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.






no gold for liecab that you may buy white raiment, or eye ointment that you may see

Rev_3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

God made them Adam and Eve, male and female,
not Adam and Steve,
and not Eve and Evelyn:

Mar 10:6  But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 
Mar 10:7  For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

Not for liecab, but for the benefit of those who believe God


As God and the Word is God, the Angel of the LORD and Jesus Angel,
is probably the same Angel, and as the Angel of the LORD at times spoke,
as if He is the Lord, so to Jesus Angel spoke as if He is Jesus,
just as God's word and Jesus Christ give credence to:

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

just a couple instances of the satanic-demonic spirit in liecab
without going back far:

brocab:
Maybe you need to read the bible, instead of playing with yourself.

brocab:

obviously religion has 007 by the balls

brocab:
And you haven't explained anything to me yet, I can't wait until you do..Did John seen Christ, or did he see an Angel?

showing more of your lies liecab

you say liecab that in rev 1:12 it was Jesus who spoke to John
even though God's word and Jesus Christ said that Jesus Angel was sent to testified to John

Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Jesus Angel testified as if He was Jesus, just as the Angel of the Lord
testified to Israel as if He was the LORD:

Jdg_2:1 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

you liecab keep saying two voices spoke to John which is ridiculous, and of course you cannot post scripture showing that

you liecab do not believe God's word and Jesus Christ
and like so many, are deceived into thinking you are a christian
you lie in most every post, taking after your god:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.






no gold for liecab that you may buy white raiment, or eye ointment that you may see

Rev_3:18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

brocab:
And you haven't explained anything to me yet, I can't wait until you do..Did John seen Christ, or did he see an Angel?

i explained to you, and more than once,
but when you lie you are just speaking naturally

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

brocab:
And you haven't explained anything to me yet, I can't wait until you do..Did John seen Christ, or did he see an Angel?

i explained to you, and more than once,
but when you lie you are just speaking naturally

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

brocab:
And you haven't explained anything to me yet, I can't wait until you do..Did John seen Christ, or did he see an Angel?

you liecab told me not to talk to you anymore
and i said that i wouldn't explain things to you anymore
but i will continue to point out your lies.etc.

brocab:
I have no-more to say to you[/color]

brocab:
Just don't write to me no-more

johnw74:
i already told you im not giving any more Bible truth to you
because of your lying and false accusing etc. etc.
but mainly because of your rejection of God's word and Jesus Christ:

johnw74:
liecab, as far as showing you any more truth from the Bible, that ended
because of your lies, false accusations etc. but mainly because of your rejection of God's word and Jesus Christ
I will continue to show your lies and anti Bible ways

but you liecab cannot stop lying, taking after your god:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

brocab:
You are telling me-John was with the Angel-and he never heard a voice behind him that sounded like a trumpet-and when he turned he never seen Christ in all His glory?

no, i never said John was with an angel and turned to another voice behind him,
you said that, but i am happy to show how you cannot stop lying in every post;

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

brocab:
Like if you could explain yourself more clearly-which you had refuse to do-then maybe we could understand how you see {Revelation 1:12} Whom do you say John seen?

liecab, you have changed your post just before i replied, and changed it again after my reply
but that's just the work of a liar


i explained my position very well and won't be doing it again for you, you have been blinded:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


and of course you have lied again liecab, saying John heard two voices
when the only voice that John heard was the voice of Jesus Angel testifying on behalf of Jesus Jesus:

Rev_22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

i ask you for the second time, show the verses of the two different voices talking to John 

^^^ not explaining anything to you, just pointing out your lies



Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Not for liecab, but for the benefit of those who believe God


Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 

^^^
Jesus Angel appeared to, and spoke to John, just as God's word says, it was not Jesus personally,
but Jesus Angel spoke to John with the authority of Jesus as if He was Jesus Himself

in the same way, the Angel of the LORD appeared to Hagar, it wasn't the LORD(Yahovah) personally,
but the Angel of the LORD spoke to Hagar as if He was the LORD Himself,
look at verse 10
vvv
 
Gen 16:7  And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. 
Gen 16:8  And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai. 
Gen 16:9  And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. 
Gen 16:10  And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. 
Gen 16:11  And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

The Angel of the LORD spoke with the authority of the LORD(Yahovah), just as if He was the LORD Himself,
and Just as Jesus Angel spoke spoke to John with the authority of Jesus, as if He was Jesus Himself


There are other instances of the Angel of the LORD speaking with the authority of the LORD(Yahovah) as if He is the LORD:

Num 22:32  And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse before me: 

Jdg_2:1  And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

 


some claim to be christians, but they put their own words before God's word, they have been blinded:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

adelee777:
The Son isn't the Father, you should read the OP again.

no the Son isn't the Father, i suggest you read again

adelee777:
And concerning the verse you allude to, you will notice that the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus in the form of a dove,
and the Father said from heaven "this is my beloved Son"
There you have the the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit together at the same time,
the three persons in God.

No, John the Baptist was there too. So why not make in 4 persons.

because John the Baptist isn't God, there were also many other people there as well

adelee777:
You guys are the reason people always think the bible is contradictory by your funny interpretation.

ummm, if only we people were as clever as you people

adelee777:
In d same John 1 in verse 18 it states: ''no man hath ever seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, hath declared Him''. Now, how does that go along with OP's interpretation of John 1:1?

God in that verse is referring to the Father
when Jesus was baptized the Father wasn't seen but His voice was heard from heaven

John 1:1 doesn't conflict anywhere there

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God
and the Word was God