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Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74:
menxer:
If you like, write it in sparkling diamond colours, the fact still remains, there is no way, "...eye be single..." can be interpreted to mean two eyes of the physical body, in the context of this thread.

Besides, "... Thy whole body shall be full of light" doesn't necessarily have to mean the physical body, it can equally mean the spirit body.
Lay Up Treasures in Heaven, not on earth, your eye must be single, you cannot serve both God and money


[color=#808080]Mat 6:19[/color] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
[color=#808080]Mat 6:20[/color] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
[color=#808080]Mat 6:21[/color] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
[color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
[color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
[color=#808080]Mat 6:24[/color] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.


but your so called third eye cannot see it
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 8:06am On Sep 04, 2017
menxer:
Laughs.

Where did you copy that from?

Note, emphasis is on "... eye..." if the reference was to the physical eyes it should and would have been, "... eyes..." but he was very clear about eye in singular.

Even if we go by your opinion, how do you fix your eye (not eyes) on heaven? You close one right?

Don't tell me you are going to see heaven with your two eyes.

What happened to Peter during the transfiguration, did any other person saw what he saw?
What happened to Saul on the road to Damascus, did any other person saw what he saw?
What happened to Stephen, did any other person saw what he saw?

If those men saw with the physical eyes others around them would have seen it too, but it was a seeing with the third eye.

In the case of Stephen, it was what medical science now call "near death experience," which is still controlled by the pineal gland.

Anyways, you can focus on your two eyes , but let me focus on my third eye, we are not bound to see the same things.
it's clear you have little understanding,
but go on believing Jesus is talking here about the pineal gland
and the supposed third eye cheesy

[color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
[color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 7:03am On Sep 04, 2017
menxer:
Laughs.

@bolded, so because you have not been given or have received no inspiration of your own means I can't? You do well.

Yes, spiritual enlightenment can only come from an enlightened mind, like my own mind. It's a pity yours is not.
you continue to be puffed up like a bull frog, or full of bull, anyway
and you continue to falsely accuse-lie,
which continues to show that you have nothing other than those things





[color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color]  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
[color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color]  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
 

truly Jesus isn't talking about the pineal gland and the supposed third eye,
who would have thought that needed to be shown to someone:

Matthew 6:22-23

The light of the body ... - The sentiment
stated in the preceding verses - the duty of
fixing the affections on heavenly things -
Jesus proceeds to illustrate by a reference
to the “eye.” When the eye is directed
steadily toward an object, and is in health,
or is single, everything is clear and plain. If it
flies to different objects, is fixed
on no one singly, or is diseased, nothing is
seen clearly. Everything is dim and
confused. The man, therefore, is unsteady.
The eye regulates the motion of the body.
To have an object distinctly in view is
necessary in order to correct and regulate
action.
So Jesus says,
in order that the conduct may be right, it is
important to fix the affections on heaven.
Having the affections there.

Single - Steady, directed to one object.
Not confused.

Thy body shall be full of light - Your
conduct will be regular and steady. All that
is needful to direct the body is that the eye
be fixed right. No other light is required.
So all that is needful to direct
the conduct is, that the eye be
fixed on heaven; that the affections be
there.

If, therefore, the light that is in thee ...
If this is dark, how great is that darkness!
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 1:17am On Sep 04, 2017
menxer:
What's your definition of "inspired men of God?"
well you have had yet another duh moment,
inspired men of God, are men that God gave insperation to, cheesy oh boy

menxer:
Yes, "Jesus" didn't interpret the scriptures wrongly but differently from what the pharisees and sadducees were used to and comfortable with, which is exactly the same scenario here.
yes Jesus interpret the scriptures differently to the pharisees and sadducees, and you


menxer:
Asking for a link to my post on spiritual enlightenment, when you are already on it, is telling of how closed minded you have chosen to be.
ha ha truly there is no spiritual enlightenment from you,
except in your own mind
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 12:38am On Sep 03, 2017
menxer:
The things of the spirit are discerned spiritually.
if having read my threads you discern no enlightenment, that only proves your lack of spiritual discernment.
ha ha, once again show me the spiritual enlightement you have posted
give a link to it


menxer:
The Bible was not written by "Christians," at least most of it.

And the Bible is just a piece of a giant puzzle.

Who can be more blinded and hypocritical than you, who denies the role of the pineal gland in spiritual enlightenment?
smiley you sure are duh, the Bible was written by inspired men of God:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

@underline, you are still copy catting, parroting what i said, but in lies

menxer:
@bolded, And how is that different from what you are saying about me?
duh, you are not Jesus, He didn't wrongly use the scriptures as the pharisees and you do
Christianity EtcRe: Was Saint Francis A Sissy? by johnw74: 2:51am On Sep 02, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Hi, my brother from another mother. cheesy Whoever said that did not know the disservice they did to the great commission because I don't see how one can preach the gospel without the use of words.



Jesus fed the multitude with both spiritual and physical food. He wouldn't have left the starving multitudes to go home on an empty stomach even though He had fed them with the bread of life. Jesus would equally not preach to the multitudes without the use of words.




Since it cannot be confirmed whether Saint Francis of Assisi said it I can let him off from being a sissy. wink

Remain blessed. smiley
of course this is all hypothetical, it's not known who said the quotes or if they are quoted accurately

not many christians are able or gifted to preach the gospel verbally
but some do show their faith in the way they live, a strong witnessing tool i believe

i doubt anyone said this:

"Preach the Gospel at all times. Where necessary, use words."
the speaker here may have been speaking about feeding the spiritually starving children, but if they are starving physically, use food:

'Feed the starving children. Where necessary, use food.'
^^^ but perhaps another misquote





OK
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74:
menxer:
@bolded, I made no such claim

Naaa, we aren't on the same page of knowing.

At least I know a little about the functions of the pineal gland in achieving spiritual enlightenment.

The Bible does not make plain sense else it wouldn't be written in parables.
please tell us a little of your spiritual enlightenment,
so far you have shown no spirituality, or enlightenment


menxer:
So people don't live pious lives outside the monastery?
GO Adeboye must hear this.

@bolded, that assumes you are the gate man that neither enters nor suffers anyone else to enter Eden?

What I intend to accomplish (which I have), is to create awareness about the potentials of having a blooming pineal gland as a precursor to a vibrant spiritual enlightenment.
how about showing us some of that vibrant spiritual enlightenment
and knowledge from your third eye
come on menxer, tell us things we don't know, tell us the things you see cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 12:22am On Sep 02, 2017
Mujtahida:
Don't mind those opposing you. The truth is that all spiritual experiences so called are really brain works. Scientists have been able to induce spiritual experiences by activating certain parts of the brain.

And why do you bother with the Bible. It's a book full of light and darkness and much darkness. That's why Christianity lacks spiritual vibe
menxer:
Glad you understand me.
glad to see that you menexer are not christian and don't believe the Bible
and yet you use it, such are the blinded and hypocrites
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 12:13am On Sep 02, 2017
menxer:
That sounds like you have taken over the work of the pharisees and sadducees.

For your info, the world as you know it is passing away.

As for pineal gland, it won't bloom if you don't or won't do anything about it, though it is in you, your hope of glory.

Besides We, with the help of science, have identified that the physical door way to the kingdom of God within you, which Jesus spoke about, is the pineal gland, yet you are showing us that you are the incarnation of the sadducees?
It is a tedious job, but it must do done, thank you for fitting that mould and making yourself available.
because you have nothing you continue to talk lies

the pharisees and other, knew the Bible about as well as you do

they even though that the spirit in Jesus was the spirit of satan
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74:
menxer:
No.

The problem is you are bent on defending the status quo of what you believe with no room for new knowledge of transformation.

Christ is the man whose pineal gland has attained full bloom.

Now that is a parable, "asleep" as in how?
is it asleep as in physical death, or asleep as in the calcified pineal gland?
the verse is not a parable but is literal, and you can not even see that

those in heaven, their bodys are on earth decaying
asleep obviously talks of their spirits

this is simple basic stuff, and you don't know it
Christianity EtcRe: Was Saint Francis A Sissy? by johnw74:
OK
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 12:18pm On Sep 01, 2017
richardbrandy:
bro never conclude that what you have known all your life is the truth be open minded and willing to learn and i belive you have a brain to reason and think but be open minded
truly spirit-mind is not conciousness
a spirit-mind can be conscious or asleep

spirit-mind is also life, when God takes back the spirit-mind that He gave us, we die
ask for the scriptures if you can't find them
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 12:09pm On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
If that is true why are you so opposed to the discovery of the pineal gland as a source of spiritual enlightenment?
try to follow what's going on here, for the third time, i don't care about your
pineal gland, third eye theory

when you wrongly use the Bible to support your un Bibical belief i will show you up
for as long as i'm watching this thread that is
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 11:44am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
That's what your pastor fed you.
no, but you are falsely accusing-lying more and more as time goes on
luke warmers or so called christians, soon show their colors

menxer:
Let me help you, God's spirit-mind and human spirit - mind, as you term, is Consciousness.

Check this thread,
https://www.nairaland.com/4023047/consciousness
ha, a spirit-mind is either conscious or asleep

referring to those spirits-minds asleep in Christ;

1Th_4:13  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 11:25am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
Have you noticed you are tilting more towards trivialities.

There is no point exchanging insults, sit tight in your comfort zone but remember the parable of the prodigal with emphasis on the stay-at-home son.

Thanks for you time.
if you think the parroting-lying, is trivial
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 11:15am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
So where or what is the mind? if I may ask.

Mystical according to Merriam-Webster, is:

1a : having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence the mystical food of the sacramentb : involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality the mystical experience of the Inner Light.

@ bolded, I sincerely want to believe that is not your reason for being a Christian.
stop with the bull if possible


the mind is the spirit, you didn't know that
it's what returns to God when our flesh bodies die

God's spirit-mind joins a Christians human spirit-mind
and resides with him

spirit-mind can also have a spirit body

just a little because you don't know, i would post scriptures
but i'm sure you can look them up yourself
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 11:04am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
And you are so certain about that?

Hahahahahahahahaha
HahaHahahahahahahaha

So in your mind, the whole of what God is is contained in the Bible?

Yes, you can sleep in you comfort zone, but others are awake to explore and experience the worlds.
I am one.
all of those ha ha's seem a bit hysterical

@bold, you accuse of things i never said,


just referring to Jesus alone:

Joh_21:25  And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 10:53am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
You are truly confused, sorry.

What I meant is, you don't know the parables of the Bible as it relates to the functioning of the pineal gland.




Check the meaning of parables.
It must be interpreted to get the meaning, else it is not a plain saying with plain sense.

You are truly confused, just stick to believing, it is better than trying to wrap your mind around certain truths, just to know.
@bold, what we have here is yet another copy cat
parroting back in lies to me, what i said in truth to you

your saying it twice in a very short post is telling, don't you think, sorry ha



johnw74:
perhaps your words are sometimes confused, i can believe that
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 10:39am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
So people don't live pious lives outside the monastery?
GO Adeboye must hear this.

@bolded, that assumes you are the gate man that neither enters nor suffers anyone else to enter Eden?

What I intend to accomplish (which I have), is to create awareness about the potentials of having a blooming pineal gland as a precursor to a vibrant spiritual enlightenment.
only in your own mind
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 10:37am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
It's OK, I understand the Bible is your comfort zone, but the truth about spiritual reality is way beyond that comfort zone. And you need to step out into the Unknown to experience it, else you are no better than a sleeper.
the Bible certinally is one of my comfort zones,
the holy spirit is another, i understand how the Bible is not a comfort zone of yours

haha, there is no better spiritual reality than God's word
most of what you say is just mere words from your own mind
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 10:26am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
@bolded, I made no such claim
the only thing i am defending here is the Bible,
you said stop defending what you don't know

perhaps your words are sometimes confused, i can believe that

menxer:
Do you have a monopoly of whom or how to interpret the Bible?

Stop defending what you don't know
, we are here to learn and the best you can be is receptive.
menxer:
Naaa, we aren't on the same page of knowing.

At least I know a little about the functions of the pineal gland in achieving spiritual enlightenment.

The Bible does not make plain sense else it wouldn't be written in parables.
i can also believe that the Bible does not make plain sense to you
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 10:24am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
I will take vision, which according to Wikipedia is:

Perception. Visual perception, the sense of sight. Visual system, the physical mechanism of eyesight. Vision (spirituality), a supernatural experience that conveys a revelation

I was expecting someone to shout hallelujah to God for giving man the third eye as an "oversight" function.

Mind you, the spectrum of light the normal eye sees is very narrow, meaning light outside that narrow band can only be seen with the pineal gland (third eye)

I hope you get your spiritual vision from your two nakèd eyes?
so you say the eye, vision, sight, is referring to a spiritual vision,
then you are referring to the mind and not a mystical third eye

a vision is something that one sees in the mind
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 8:44am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
Do you have a monopoly of whom or how to interpret the Bible?

Stop defending what you don't know, we are here to learn and the best you can be is receptive.
when the Bible makes plain sense, seek no other sense

you claim i don't know the Bible,

and i don't know it all, but between you and i,
so far you aren't doing to well
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 8:35am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
If only you could interpret those scriptures well

The third eye is the pineal gland, not imaginary eyes. And science has shown that it contains needles and cones like the normal eyes but also produces molecules that enables it to see the invisible reality, and allow the body to experience other states consciousness: the kingdom within. .

You don't observe with the physical eyes what the third eye sees.

What the third eye sees is the kingdom within, which is in line with the scriptures you quoted.
those scriptures don't need interpreting they are straight forward,
nothing difficult there

if you want to talk science on the third eye theory that's okay,
i wouldn't be interisted

but if you want to say God's word agrees with you,
then post the scriptures that agree, so far you haven't
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 8:28am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
If you are not interested in the functions of the pineal gland, then you have no business here.

Just read and believe your bible, allow those interested to figure out how the pineal gland functions and how to use it.
my business here is pointing out your wrong explanations of Bible verses


leave wrong explanations of Bible verses out of your third eye beliefs and i will
have nothing to post on this thread
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 8:27am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
We pride ourselves that Jesus spoke in parables yet reads it literally.

What if the he meant, "but the molecules, which the pineal gland will send... will teach you all things..."

What is a Comforter?
How do we feel comforted?

Our feeling of comfort is controlled by serotonin a molecule produced by the pineal gland.
DMT (dimethyltryptamine) is molecule produced by the pineal gland and controls our experience of states of reality.

So in the language of the ancient, the Comforter (molecule) is sent forth from the Father (pineal gland) to comfort us and teach us all things about states of reality.
cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 8:14am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
Why do people spend their entire lives in the monastery?

Smh

Getting ones third eye to bloom is the greatest achievement, that is the master key to the kingdom.
Jesus say's differently, the kingdom doesn't come by seeing with an imaginary third eye
the Kingdom is Jesus who is within us, Christians will see the Kingdom(Jesus) come

(Luk 17:20)  And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:(seeing)

(Luk 17:21)  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
(Luk 17:22)  And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
(Luk 17:23)  And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
(Luk 17:24)  For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 7:46am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
@bolded, is a slap on Jesus.
So who created the pineal gland, and what are its functions?
slap on Jesus is ridiculous

i'm not interisted in the functions of the pineal gland, i'm fairly sure it is not an invisible eye though

menxer:
The word is "when your eye is single" and i guess you have just one eye.
i guess you don't know the Bible very well
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 7:38am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
And you never asked yourself, why would Jesus say "when thine eye is single..." when you have two eyes?

Did you noticed the bolded? Why the difference?

Because the third eye is the single eye, the "Father," that sees in secret, when your two physical eyes are closed.
the greek word that eye comes from is "ophthalmos" and it means eye and implies vision - sight:
The light of the body is the eye(visoin): therefore when thine eye(vision) is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye(vision) is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

eye
G3788
ὀφθαλμός
ophthalmos
of-thal-mos'
From G3700; the eye (literally or figuratively); by implication vision; figuratively envy (from the jealous side glance): - eye, sight.
Total KJV occurrences: 102


you have to take the word(single) in relation to the whole verse:
The light of the body is the eye therefore when thine eye is single,(that is all light and not darkness and light) then your whole body is also full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 7:35am On Sep 01, 2017
menxer:
Hahahahahahahahaha

@bolded, that is a compliment.
I know you couldn't bring yourself to use the word "atheists," because it's hackneyed.

How do you think the great scientific discoveries or inventions came about?

The pineal gland is the "Comforter" the Bible talks about, that when it comes into full bloom will teach you all things.

Do a little YouTube search and see what people with blooming third eye are saying and doing.

At least you have not denied not having a pineal gland.
the person you are replying to probably knows that the comforter is the Holy Ghost,
but you don't appear to know anything about God's word

Joh_14:26  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by johnw74: 7:26am On Sep 01, 2017
Dohgon:
How do we see things? or What is the process of seeing?

The universe is much more than visible Light.
Most people believe that seeing is an interpritation of Light that enters in the brain through the Eyes.
In fact, human Eyes can only interpret a small percentage of Light.

Seeing is also associated with Understanding so when someone says that "I see", it means they understand information from all 5 Senses.

The Pineal Gland is an energy receptor that feeds information to the brain independent of the 5 senses. For instance, the Dogon people of Mali used their 3rd eye sense to recieve information about the universe that scientists are only now seeing with telescopes.
i'm not interisted in the pineal gland or the third eye

i showed for the benefit of anyone who cares, that the Bible and Jesus never said anything about the third eye, as was wrongly claimed
Christianity EtcRe: Was Saint Francis A Sissy? by johnw74: 5:38am On Sep 01, 2017
"Preach the Gospel at all times. Where necessary, use words."
I agree that it's unlikely St Francis said that, however if we can preach the Gospel by example(others seeing the way we live), then the quote could make sense



'Feed the starving children. Where necessary, use food.'
Whoever said that, if he was a good person, could have been referring to feeding the starving children the bread from Heaven, which is Jesus Christ, but if they be physically starving then give them food

[color=#008080](Joh 6:48)[/color]  I am that bread of life.
[color=#008080](Joh 6:49)[/color]  Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
[color=#008080](Joh 6:50)[/color]  This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
[color=#008080](Joh 6:51)[/color]  I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

i'm not rc, it's just how i see it.







It's St Francis of Assisi, not St Francis is a sissy,
he was from the city of Assisi in Italy - you probably know that

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