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Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 2:17pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
johnw74: Yeah bro, now I see the ten commandment are written in the book of proverbs |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:26pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
^^^ blind as a bat |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:27pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: he was right, lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments: Exo_20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. ^^^ you must think that's not lying |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 2:32pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
johnw74:ARRRGGHHH!!! okay |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:43pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: see once again, the OP was right, lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments, because it's a certain type of lie doesn't alter that fact |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:48pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
lying in general isn't mentioned in the 10 commandments is that what you meant? |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 2:52pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
johnw74: exactly! FG banning Hockey for instance means they banned sports because Hockey is a type of sport doesn't alter that fact |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:52pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:59pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: no you are getting even more confused now, those childish riddles false witness which is lying is banned, false witness is banned, lying is banned but hockey isn't all sports, so not all sports are banned, just hockey |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 3:06pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
johnw74: Honestly, I'm surprised this is proving too hard for you to grasp My Girlfriend asks me "HopefulLandlord, have you eaten today?" I replied "No! Amy" even though I've actually eaten and I infact just ate an hour before she asked me the question Johnw74, Is what I just did called lying? Yes/No Is what I just did "bearing False witness/testimony" against my neighbor? Yes/No? |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 3:15pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: ha ha, your the one struggling how does your riddle disprove the OP being right about the 10 commandments prohibiting lying |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 3:16pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: there are many types of lies but they are all lies there are many types of sports but they are not all hockey |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 3:21pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
you are to slow see you tomorrow |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 3:25pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
johnw74: You dodged answering the question Did I lie? Yes/No? Did I bear false witness against my neighbour? Yes/No? |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 3:32pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
johnw74: Lmao! I'm sure the intelligent readers can see the slow one between us. Hint: its not me I have a unique "talent" of knowing when someone is defeated in a discussion but ego is getting in the way of the person admitting it My point has been the same from the get go, anyone that thinks I've shifted in any way can simply check my posts here, I've been consistent from the beginning till now You on the other hand has shifted here and there from 1. Quoting proverbs when we are asking for 10 commandments when that was shown to be invalid by my sarcastic remark after seriously telling you its not germane you shifted to 2. "because it's a certain type of lie doesn't alter that fact" This right here is where you actually admitted Seun and I are right and OP is wrong but you doubled down when I used the Hockey-Sport analogy which prompted me to bring up the imaginary scenario between me and my girlfriend and you're now refusing to answer, Why? because you have no more space to manoeuvre. I'm simply doing your intellect a huge favour in thinking by indulging you till now 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by ReinaFarine: 6:56pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
I think the point hopefullandlord, Seun and others are tryna make is like a set Venn diagram. The universal set is lie and false witness is a subset of Lie. True. But lies are a funny thing y'know. Bearing false witness against yourself is still false witness. Tell your girl you didn't eat, that is a false witness against yourself. And so yes, you lied, yes you bore false witness. Rahab bore false witness. She said she didn't know where they are but they were in her house. She knew. That witness or evidence was false. 1 Like
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Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by hopefulLandlord: 7:25pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
ReinaFarine: I think this is a fair point. However I must point out that even if I agree that what I hypothetically did is bearing false witness against myself, it still doesn't go against the 10 commandments as I didn't bear false witness against "My Neighbour" which exactly proves my point that not all lies are false witness against your neighbour. Saying all lies are false witness against one's neighbour is akin to saying all sports are Hockey and I like your illustration with the Venn diagram |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 10:46pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: false accuser, i dodged nothing, my position is not about there being a diffrence between lying to your neighbour and general lying my position is that lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments you should go back and read my posts and your comments that i posted on because you are so confused, posting about things in your head instead of things that i said |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 11:29pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: you are concerned with how the reader sees you, smile hopefulLandlord: you have a unique talent, ha ha hopefulLandlord: yes the proverbs quote shows that thou shalt not lie, you hopeful should obey it: Pro_12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: hopefulLandlord: yes it's true, being a certain type of lie doesn't alter the fact that it is a lie, duh hopefulLandlord: ha ha, how confused you are, or is it just straight out lying, a mixture i say hopefulLandlord: okay good to hear you are going to start being intelligent from now, lets hear it |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 11:46pm On Feb 26, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:. who has said that all lies are false witness against your neighbour, you are so mixed up hopefulLandlord: i'm glad you now agree with me that all sports are not hockey johnw74: |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 12:47am On Feb 27, 2018 |
hopeful, you are an atheist, you don't believe in God, but your main aim here at the forums is to argue over God's word, funny |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 12:48am On Feb 27, 2018 |
johnw74: hopefulLandlord: where are you oh slow one |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 1:20am On Feb 27, 2018 |
Christian threads on God's word are visited by atheists who of course don't believe in God yet argue over His word what did God inspire King David to write about them: Psa 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Psa 10:4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:36pm On Feb 27, 2018 |
profolaolu: Good job. God bless you. |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by Seun(m): 12:25pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Emmanystone:Really? I’ve never spoken to demons before so I wouldn’t know. Tell us about some of the conversations that you’ve had with the demons. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by Emmanystone: 12:37pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Seun:Yes, you have. They speak through you. Satan said to Jesus, 'if you are the son of God, change this stones to bread then i will believe you'. You say, 'if God exists, let Him come down in person and stand before me, then i will believe He exists'. That is satans words in your mouth sir. Always wanting to coarse allegiance. Funny thing is, even God stands before you, you'd say He is not God. Hahahahahahahaha. Gerarahia sir. |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by UyiIredia(m): 12:45pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Seun: David Hume reborn in an Ogun man's body. Ogun the deity, was always a practical person. After all, he was the god of iron that worked the machines. |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by UyiIredia(m): 12:46pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:The rock of Gibraltar. Consistent preacher. And astute Deeper lifer. I salute. |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:33pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
UyiIredia: You are welcome back. How body? 1 Like |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by UyiIredia(m): 1:35pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:We thank God. |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:51pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
UyiIredia: Glory be to God! 1 Like |
Re: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by Gggg102(m): 5:08pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
johnw74: you are getting his point backwards. lemme put it this way hockey is a type of sport = false witness is a type of lie government banned hockey = ten commandments banned false witness banning hockey does not mean banning all sports since hockey is not all sports = banning false witness does not mean banning all lies since false witness is not all lies. notice the equivalence are hockey = false witness sport = lies |
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