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Lizabeth25: Uuuuuhm i am so so sure i am the person that mentioned you or ever intended doing so, why exactly did you have t ask me that question? |
euromilion: ..lol... Funny... my age? ..What age exactly do you think? Between age is not a guarantee for any form of knowledge or logical deductive ability.. |
HCpaul: I will provide the verse you are referring to myself you don't need to do that.. Matthew 19: 9-10 9 I tell youthat anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” The disciples were reacting to what he said in Verse 9. . . it wasn't peter but the disciples which is not the name of any particular person. Again you don't know the bible half as much as you think you do... Between remember i accepted your challenge, i am still waiting ..One week huh? |
Juxtified:If they don't like the food then get another they like, don't force someone especially Children to eat what they don't like . . . That is more or less a punishment. Children don't deserve that. |
winner01:[b] Now this is exactly the point, Just like i am not seeing them going about telling the public of some non-factual zombie orgy they believe in then i have no problem with them. But once they start pouring the zombie stories to the public as truth, using threat of torture to ensure submission, indoctrinating children, manipulating laws of the state which i live in with the zombie stories, encroaching into my personal space then we have a serious problem because i "who know this not to be factual" will refute it, engage them and break down those disturbing tales being fed to the public... I don't care what people believe in, they can worship a stone for all i care just don't throw that stone at me or tell me how to live so as not to offend your stone... That is the problem... Dalaman, krystalzkris and menesheh i think much attention has been given to this baseless yarns, lets not derail this thread any further.... Its time you guys ignored this and move on with the thread ...[/b] |
winner01:[b] ..lol.. Is this another way of saying "Please stop picking on my sky daddy..." Gods are ideas and these ideas have a disturbing effect on our society, has a retarding effect on many people and affects me too by bringing people everyday encroaching into my personal space to rub their belief my face. You know i don't engage in this type of Children's talk... anyway someone who doesn't play sports and criticizes sports in the sports section is not another type sports. (Criticizing and refuting religious ideas is not synonymous training... Upgrade )Even though i am under no obligation or owe anybody any explanation but i think i will demonstrate so you would drop this "Begging for sky daddy tactics" You should drop the victims, it's gone stale. I don't Game, i think games have a disturbing effect on the life's of youths, Can you please recommend to me which section on NL where i can share and discuss that idea with Gamers? Just derailed ifenese' thread, this is my last reply to this baseless talk that has no ground.. If you don't want atheists to refute the disturbing lethal mythologies your religion propagates, why not pray for them to stop.. Start praying now, am sure prayer works.... Unless you are not confident prayer works...[/b] |
Krystalzkris: Atheism is a religion just like "Not playing any sport" is another type of sports... Or maybe just like "not playing chess" is another type of game... People sometimes don't understand when they sound like idiots... |
Can someone just ask me why i just love to be IGBO... It is time we Africans braced up and be proud of who we are, show the world what we truly are and be proud of the cultural heritage left to us by our fathers. Ndi Igbo ndi oma mji eme onu. . . . Long live the Igbo people... Long live our culture and traditions..... I just love being an Igbo and will forever be grateful for having the privilege to be one of you.. Igbo kwezuo nu ooooo!!!! |
ok this is called mumunity. Biafra is not here yet why not hold on to the one you have until biafra materialize. This is a mindless but dare devil show of chronic idiocy. . .They get mind shaa.. Penny wise, pound foolis_h .... |
Shollyps: I never for once here said anything concerning any God state of actuality, i only took my time to teach her biblical development and origin. But i don't know she wouldn't see past her own nose. . . It has nothing to do with being an atheist but just someone teaching you what is. She has made it clear to everyone here that she doesn't care what the truth it as long it goes against what she wants then she doesn't need it... #Quite Sad i must say... |
imas: You guys always sounds like Imbecil_es in pouring out unfounded absurd claims. I am not you i cannot fear something as flimsy as abstract concepts. . If i was afraid of abstract concepts i wouldn't be an atheist. You saying am afraid is like a little child telling me am afraid of the dark stairs. . . Very funny. I came to this thread to correct the nonsensical and outright show of idiocy you all intend to pour here. And i have done that... You worship nothing but your own fears and it is a terrible way to live. Such a pitiable life you lot live.... |
trapQ: Oh this has nothing to do with being an atheist, i simply told you what it... You can never improve your knowledge of anything with this kind of attitude.. I am sure i have told you the actual truth, what you make of it is your own responsibility.. |
trapQ:[b]The books you call old testament are actually Jewish texts and is part of their scripture Tenark which they still use today....Christianity borrowed those books in the development of their own canon. Seriously this bible you are talking about was given to you by the catholic church. The bishops decided which books that should be in the bible and which should not.. This bible you revere so much now was brought into being by the catholic church to serve as a canonical means of doctrinal deduction for christiandom. The bible has actually since been 77.. (The church originally added this deutrocanonical books has been there since it was compiled). The biblical evolution took many amount of years but the catholic and the eastern Orthodox has long since then being using the Deuterocanonical books (Septuagint) Protestants are actually the ones that removed these books with the argument that some of it were not in original hebrew manuscript. But Sirach has been found to be originally in the hebrew manuscript. I think you need to know more about your own religion to give you a sound understanding of its doctrines and established dogmas over time... Deuterocanonical books has been there since actually, protestants excluded then from their own texts. So anytime you pour out your reverence to the bible (As the infallible word of God) remember there wouldn't have been any if the catholic church didn't compile and canonize the collection [/b] |
HCpaul:You really have not studied the bible as much as you think.. if you have : You would have known it was Paul not peter that said the bolded.... You have a simpleton-like mind and you pour out confident unfounded assertions in public.... Next time make sure you know something before saying you do.. By the way, your wooing skills doesn't work much... try harder.. |
ProfyJay: Such a pitiful life you have i must say, Life is not a gamble, it is a pity you have chosen to gamble yours over an unfounded irrational primitive superstition. That you base your life on some unfounded gamble is your own doing, I choose to live mine with stark honesty and not wallow in some delusional gamble of a fearful mind. Again i implore you to re-evaluate what you believe... Your belief is merely a feeble gamble by an unsure mind believing his own fears... Go have a rethink whether you really should live on a gamble of "what if" |
imas: One thing with christians especially is that they are unable to see more than what they believe. -First: You are not an atheist so your assertion based on assumptions about atheist is either a stupi_d one or lie... i would say both.. -I am an atheist and i know there is a difference between sheepish belief and certainty.. You need to go to confession because you just lied.. Atheist rather know deep down they don't believe or know there is any God except in the delusional minds of those who assert so... Maybe i will say deep down you know there is a giant tea spoon diamond orbiting the earth now but you just choose not to acknowledge and hope you understand just how idiotic you sound... |
[b] "What if?" Now apply that to every other religious belief out there. . . What if Islamic God is the real one, what if muhammed was actually the correct prophet. What if it was Brahma or maybe what if it was indeed Osiris. Here in this thread lies the murdering weapon of religion. . . It betrays a dishonest mind that is not convinced in his beliefs but holds on to it as a gambling means to a fearful end. "What if" Such a powerful phrase... Op have indeed revealed all the fears in his dishonest mind.. -he doesn't believe his own God concept because he wants to. -not because he finds the concept rational -not because he love to believe. -not because he is sure in his conviction. No his basis of holding on to such belief is FEAR.... "what if" "what if an angry sadistic God (big enough to create the universe but childish enough to beg for belief or it burns me) exist. "what if it gets mad and throw me in fire.. and Op also forgot to add "What if out of the 2,900 God concepts around, mine is not the correct one. This is funny but truly a magnifying glass for all to see the basis of these religious belief... "The fear of a belief and worship mongering Egoistic God" Here religion got murdered with this fearful show of simplistic pascal's wager.....The dishonesty in the theistic BELIEF is glared to the public here. With all we have seen here, it has been confirmed that these people worship nothing but their own fears... I advice you get honest with yourself and determine what you think you believe, determine a better basis for your belief other than sheepish feeble fear. I'd rather base my own confidence on my reason, study, consistent logic and empirical deductions than base it on a thing as dishonest and fragile as Faith/fear..." I am honest with myself that i see nothing that suggests belief in personal Gods are nothing more than wishful thinking. You prefer to clutch on to any unfounded whim with the fear of threat and violence attached to it.... Evaluate your beliefs again because you only believe and worship your own fears... [/b] |
dalaman: This is quite simple. . . Psychological attitude towards the ethic of being clothed or not depends on the society. If you and i were born deep in the Bush men kalahari society we would be walking about unclad and it would be a very normal thing. But since were born here in a society with ethical values on being clothed, you cannot do that because you would be different and from there stems the psychological feel of shame. |
KingEbukasBlog: You see this is one approach towards a discussion we should stop here because its quite childish. This argument has nothing to do with the existence or the inexistence of any God. . All my post here none of them even brought a God into the picture or any religion. I addressed this thread as a topic in human ethical development and not a God/No God crap. You guys should not just derail and dab into unrelated topics ... |
trapQ: Oh but there is actually. . . Book of Sirach is a deuterocanonical book along side tobit, esdras and many of them.. Written by Jesus son of Sirach. . . You can find it in a catholic bible or a jewish traditional scripture.. |
Anas09: Am back now... it was just 24hours ban... |
KingEbukasBlog: This is exactly the point, such mindsets as over sexualizing a woman's body varies from society to society. Islam encourages woman cover everything.. Western cultures are more free. and then others are uncaring about it ... Shows that these societies vary in their views about the sexuality of a woman and a man.. Don't know why this thread is still going on when it has been shown to be just societal differences.. |
Thoniameek: You see nobody here is really under an obligation to understand simple things for you... Your understanding of a simple premise lies within your own perception of what you feel should be.. I mean, take a look at the people in those pictures. Why they go around naked has more to do with beliefs than the society they grew up in. Most pictures there depict societies people who walk about in their birthday suite, one can still produce pictures where both male and the female folks walk about naked.. It has everything to do with the society because Igbos used to be like that before, It was a societal norm. but right now the society has changed its views and ethical values on such actions thats why nobody is still walking around in just brass anklet.. In one of those picture the women are seen lined up and it seemed like they're being paraded, while the men have their genetals covered. Its clear now that you are more interested in the pictures that the messages they convey. There is no moral weight on being clothed or not, that ethical responsibility is a psychological response to the tenets of the particular society.. it is that simple.. I think those people don't seem like people that do not put on clothes because they do not dim it right, rather they seem like People that do not put on clothes for a particular reason, maybe for ritual purposes or festive rites. Being clothed or not has nothing to do with being good or bad, that action itself is not bad. Those people there are products of that society and the society is one that do not recognize the ethical lay out of your own society as regard being clothed. this is their way of life just as being clothed is yours.. 100years hence with the encroachment of western civilization this people will soon change that world view like i gave an example with the old and new igbo society.. And no one can say they're not CONSCIOUS of the fact that they're naked, but they choose to be naked. This is the point, the essence of the ethic lies within the moral view on such actions. You think being naked is wrong and they think it to be normal.... this is exactly the point.. it is a societal effect.. I can be married to one of those guys in the picture and he takes to his place then I begin to go naked, that doesn't mean I'm not CONSCIOUS of the fact that I'm naked. Since you grew up in a society where it is ethical to be clothed you would find that your psychological tilt over that action will be in coincide with the societal tenets your grew up in. Bring one of those guys here and you will see him walking around unclad, uncarinf and casual because his psychological tilt over it dubs being naked normal and an ethical action.. The point is clear.. Animals don't know they're naked. But every human being does, even when they choose to be naked. How and why are they CONSCIOUS? Conscious conscious conscious...... That depends on what you call naked. . . Humans are probably the animal to utilize sophisticated tools chimps use that in little way. . . The main essence of human clothing is a means of external temperature regulation, most animals have furs and thick scales. So the adaptive mechanism pulled out by every animal is in response to its interaction with the ecological system of its habitat. The ethical values found in varying societies as regards clothing or other subjects of human societal interactions is a developed societal construct. . . there isn't much need pushing this thread any further... its quite very glaring..Am done.. |
HCpaul: #sighs... ok i accept... so what next?? |
HCpaul: ...lol... just negodu... psychosis in full display Anyway so as to be gentle let me hear what you have... common bring it.. this should be fun.. just feel stupi_d replying this guy |
lexiconkabir: Just stating the obvious... |
HCpaul: ...lol... Just like i expected, it only takes chronic delusion to bring out such a result. well its nice that you are now interested in my case, lets see if i can cure your abject delusion because honestly sometimes i get ashamed for you when you make an assertion |
hahn:...lol... am getting better now boss... thanks.. |
Anas09: Hahahahaha am on a class of my own.. John, trust me, U'll preach this gospel. You are my project. I pray for U....lol.. this is awfully cute thanks ...but i'd prefer your project be "Giving arms to the poor out there at least one of them a day... Its helps better than mumbling to a ceiling... You know what? You may be an Atheist now, but I can feel it, U will preach the Gospel of Christ. U'll remember this day. I definitely will remember it fondly and i appreciate but i'd rather you don't wallow in more wishful hopes again. I cannot believe in Personal Gods, that concept i find to be noble but also a childish view in making sense of what is.. Nothing shows it to be more than mere gap filler and its tenets anything more than wishful thinking.. If anything is said to be religious in me then it would be my profound love and dream for a better world, you could say mankind is my religion and the earth is my church. |
KingEbukasBlog: Honestly it beats me too (Worse of all it got me banned yesterday... )Its only a show of naive ideology. . . Our guy thinks that societal ethics as regards clothing is an inherent human trait because some guy and his wife at an apple. Betraying the innocent naive ignorance of the fact that every society varies in it's ethics as regards clothing. Both now and down the stretching arms of historical timeline. . . I think the thread have served its purpose though... it has been addressed.. its an innocent funny but naively cute world view.. |
HCpaul: -Why not spare some change for the poor out there cus last i checked going on your knees to mumble to yourself have never helped anyone anymore than not doing.. Longest time friend. I av considered it a responsibility to win your soul and Jonnydon for christ.You are honestly cute in your naive delusion... anyway goodluck doing that, you might be a nut case of chronic delusion but i think your time with me might impact a little sense of independent reason in you... I hope... |
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