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Teempakguy:
muhammad did all these?

lies! i don't believe it!

give me the passages and let me go and check it myself.

Muhammed was a complete Pervert.. he was a chronic pedophile ..

He married a child of 6 and consummated the marriage at the age of 9 . . He was a complete lunatic pervert..

He even claimed to have rode a flying horse and split the moon

like WTF

And people with brains actually believe this shiit just like some believe someone was strolling on a body of water..

Anyway Muhammed was actually a despicable human in respect to his pedophilia actions..

But i don't really interfere on a thread like this where people be dragging who got the better imaginary friend.. I just let them do that in peace ..

philfearon:
Abialite gi m osiso..mana onweghi ihe mebiri. Ebe o bu Na nwanne anyi nwoke menesheh agozie la oji,ka onye o bula Tara ya tata ihunanya,oganiru,obioma.. Ngozi diri kwa onye wetere oji.. Udo diri la anyi Nile ka anyi Na ata oji.. ndewo nu Umunnem!!!

Richirich713:
How desperate are u now?

Didn't u say I must prove the cup is on the table?

I can see all that, so far for that desperate attempt

Honestly brother you need to gather your wits you don't even know what exactly your argument is based on..

I only replied you when you said you can see the entire table and i have shown you that contrary to that you cannot see the entire table but just part of (Just like we can't see the whole universe as you proposed)

instead of simply accepting you cannot see the entire table just like i have taught you now, you jumped into another thing all together..

So please stop the childish show of clutching on unrelated premises. . . i am trying hard to maintain this as a friendly discussion and not an argument because an arguement only breeds resentment and hostility... and if i pull it out as an argument ......

Anyway do you now agree with me you can't see the entire table contrary to what you said that you can?


Between i am still waiting for you to prove there is no Cup on that table. . .looks like you are avoiding that...?

Richirich713:
Major difference boy,
[size=20]1st I and u can see the entire table[/size] , I can see all the possible spaces where the cup can be placed on,
I can't see the entire universe, in order for me to see everything in this universe I would have to be God.
Which already shows how bad this illustration represents our argument.

Richirich713:
1st I no science teaches that the earth is young and I no it teaches the universe is much older.

2nd Hawking is the main drive behind the big bang and he said the world came from nothing not me. It was his own words, not ur words u want in his mouth.

3Rd if the earth never had those things I wonder where those things came from, get it yet?

Again therefore there must be a creator who was eternal and intelligent not black hole manbo jumbo who with no intelligence creates the entire world intelligently.

The results we have now only shows results of which you might perceive or recognize beauty in is as a result of natural interactions of elements resulting from another...

But we should not still be quick to discard your design theory we should simply keep an open mind to what we can learn through study by first agreeing we don't know ..

Richirich713:
No a cup does not represent God nor does a table.

And i am telling you that this has nothing to with a God... for "God" sake it just an analogy.. don't get defensive my good friend..

The cup and table represent a cup and a table not a God... are you not seeing the picture my good sir..

Is there a red cup on that table or not..... [img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtH2SNuQ39SI2MeuW7GP3DOaxzJwA-j64O7brX-tt9e8puj6cATPpCEPE[/img]

One could guess the answer to this should be obvious but bro you are not tendering one at all..

Richirich713:
Does it look like I'm going to debate u atheists on table as if this illustration of a table proves anything.
The fact u talking nw about tables and red cups shows how weak and desperate ur argument has became.

lmao brother you are really becoming a bit hostile..

I want to illustrate for you the fully position of empirical substantiation, proof, belief and unbelief in relation to a claim..

I have no intent making it about the existence of a God so don't get defensive unnecessarily..

we all seeing the table.. so just a little attempt... it won't hurt i promise..

Richirich713:
Proving that no cup on a table proves there's no God?
Are u drunk?

Richirich713:
A table and a cup does not represent our argument!

hahn:
What about the bottle of orijin?

Richirich713:
Atheist believe what they no know? Hahaha
Did atheists no there's no God?

No they just belief there's no God..

Richirich713:
What scientist proved this?
I thought atheists only believe In stuff that is proven?
Do u agree with Hawking proofs of the big bang?

Richirich713:
Blah blah blah, just another way of saying u can't prove there's no God.

U don't KNOW if there's no God.
U believe there's no God, no proof.

Teempakguy:
one difference between atheists and theists is that atheists don't simply follow something because someone who purportedly has more experience in the field said it.
what happened there is simply a basic term confusion. now, what does it mean to believe?

to accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of.

from google.

now, you can accept that a God exists and feel sure that this is true. but why? you don't have any evidence or proof. you are just believing because you've been told to do so since birth.

now, i accept that gravity is one of the fundamental forces of nature. why? i KNOW that everything i throw up comes down. because i've seen it. i've seen celestial objects. they are round. this is because of gravity.

i believe because i know. you believe what you are told. gerrit?

Teempakguy:
we believe in love . . . we believe in happiness . . . we believe in truth . . . we believe in reality . . . we believe in being good . . .
and most of all, we believe that it is not required for a God somewhere to coerce us into doing what is right before we do it.

finofaya:
This is what you call science?

Teempakguy:
of course, atheists have a belief system. it just doesn't revolve around an anthropomorphic god/creator.

Uuuhm what belief system exactly

stevecantrell:
I totally share your sentiment on the above.

However, I was referring and questioning the OP's concept of "FREEDOM" and "making his own rules" in his post above.
I see no harm and being "FREE" and making your own rules as long as that doesn't impact negatively on your fellow human.

I know a few folks who took a similar decision and took an abysmal plunge as far as morality is concerned. Its uncommon but I've seen it happen.

stevecantrell:
@ OP: Ok, if you dump religion and still remain/become a decent person, then fine !

If you still believe in doing unto others what you would want done to you, then fine !

What isn't fine is if you dump religion and become a despicable, self-absorbed, self-involved and grandiose person in the process.

Shollyps:
nice one OP
I don't av any experience concerning DAT yet... by the time I.resume for school n I don't attend fellowship programs again that's wen wahala go start

haffaze777:
do I free to join

thorpido:
Are you an atheist or not?Shikena!
I'm tired of your sort of rigmarole.
Ok bye.

menesheh:
Onye wetere oji wetere ihe ahu uto, ahuto n' enye ndu na aru isi ike.
Anyi ekpe na elota ndi igbo nile, Nigeria na Africa, ebe obuna ha no.
Na afa ndi nna nna anyi

hahn:
But I eat kola too. Why wasn't I invited?

In Igbo culture hospitality to strangers is a societal norm ..

And number ceremony used in welcoming someone is by presenting kola..

"Elu ta oji, ala ta oji" means "Up should eat kola and down should eat kola"

meaning it is open to everybody...

"Nno" meaning "welcome"

So Nno!!!

hahn:
Hian! I am only following in your footsteps

thorpido:
Guy,identify your self.Stop beating about the bush.
Forget about what others think,just declare who you are by your belief.
Are you ashamed of something?

hahn:
Do you really just enjoy subjecting yourself to ridicule?

hahn:
At the moment, there are only theories or postulations. Science says "we don't know" but we can find out.

You say, "god did it". That doesn't make your statement a fact but another theory and a lazy one at that

thorpido:
Identify yourself as an atheist if you are one or not.Stop beating about the bush.
There's only One God and He's not the God of many religions so obviously some people are in error.

hahn:
English translation please