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Christianity Etc › Re: See How A Pastor Advertised A Church's Crusade (pics) by johnydon22(m): 7:25pm On Oct 14, 2015
BUHARIWILLWIN:
bro. Sent d msg. Pls check ur email. Thank you
Go check your mail right now ..
Christianity Etc › Re: See How A Pastor Advertised A Church's Crusade (pics) by johnydon22(m): 12:08pm On Oct 14, 2015
Money making enterprise of God. . .

Where Con men utilize the desperate gullibility of the masses to sell them abject delusion in exchange for their money..

These are money making ideas of which has proven to be super effective in a society like Nigeria where the sheepish gullibility of the masses is heart breaking..

Someone once told me i would make a good pastor:

I can never bring myself to be such hypocritic and dishonest position. . I dim it better to give to the masses than extort the little ones they have from them..
Celebrities › Re: meet the Brazilian love-vendor who made £150k from prostitutes by johnydon22(m): 11:45am On Oct 14, 2015
pretydiva:
Lord I thank u 4 my life oo.. im indeed grateful..i feel 4 her tho
Afrok:
Hmmmm... thank God for u and I wey no get such or other forms of disorders.
Shey nah for science lab she dey when dem snap am and give her the award? shocked
[b]This is one disturbing traits about religious people, the uncompassionate selfishness in the face of other people's misfortunes.

why are you thanking God exactly?

That you are healthy and she is not?

Are you more deserving than her, does she deserve to be like that..

why rejoice and thank a deity over the misfortunes of others because you are not part of it..

why bank on the tragedies of others to portray nonsensical arrogance for the fact you think it is ok to thank a God because someone is thin and you are not..

for the fact that you thank a God for it shows that you think that God is responsible for it. . So God dimmed you worthy of being healthy and not her..

when you all realize that we live in a random world where good things and bad things can happen to anybody without exception then you all will learn to exhibit better compassion towards others.

Because the idea of thanking a deity because of the tragedies of others only cus it didn't befall you erodes basic human compassion and is blatantly disturbing...
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Christianity Etc › Re: When The Sermon Has Been On For 3 Hours by johnydon22(m): 11:16am On Oct 14, 2015
Hahahahaha asin eeehn like bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 10:55am On Oct 14, 2015
hahn:
Let him stick with his alchoholess cup. He's going to hell anyway tongue

You apostate our holy book says we should slay people worship another cup. . But our cup is still a loving cup though, you must agree to his love and reciprocate it but if you don't he will roast you forever... You idiotic dimwit angry
kolajamesjnr:
No qualms bro, enof shayo to thank our cup cheesy
Buh you need convert johnydon22 too
You bloody infidel our book commands us to kill infidels because our cup can't do it by itself, it needs us to kill for it.. Oh how holy is our cup !!!

But our culigion is a culigion of peace but we will still kill you angry but it is still a culigion of peace..

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op):
BUHARIWILLWIN:
pls bro, u ve got a pm. Pls its extremely important
Alright boss let me check my mail Asap. . .I just replied bro..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 9:18am On Oct 14, 2015
hahn:
Chai! Now, I'm getting confused. Johnnydon22, this cup contains alomo o. Don't you think it is better? I think I'm going to backslide o grin
Our book said the cup contains orijin but not alcohol undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 8:39am On Oct 14, 2015
hahn:
Your own spirit is wrong. angry It's a red cup with orijin in it. What's in yours? grin
Surely enough he is wrong, don't you see our book says that there is no cup cup the red cup...

this guy just don't know he is deceiving himself angry
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 8:15am On Oct 14, 2015
hahn:
Hmmmm. So, I had a dream and the spirit revealed to me that there is a red cup on the table. Halleluyah! grin
Our cup is great...
kolajamesjnr:
You are wrong the cup is blue the spirit also revealed it to me grin
Oh my goodness.... this guy got the wrong cup, he is going to burn for not saying the cup is red angry

Our book said there is no other cup except our red cup...angry

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 1:46am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
Let me allow you shine just this once.
It's your thread, afterall.
Shine kwahuh

we are discussing our experiences joooooor...


Atheism is boring tho
No holidays, no fun stuffs, no heavenly afterlife,

Actually every holiday is applicable to everyone..

Sunday was a roman holiday in worship of the sun God. . but you all keep it as a holiday now.

Easter was a pegan feast of the goddess of fertility Ishta.. you keep it..

Christmas grin well its surely clear .. it is a roman festival of satuenalia and the birthday of the God mithras.. wink

We enjoy all this holidays with everyone else na.. You need not believe in the God thor to enjoy thursdays..

I mostly enjoy Christmas... smiley


no Sugar Daddy in heaven embarassed

Hahahaha if there is such a place then it would be crazy boring... imagine doing the same thing (wearing white robes and carrying palm fronds praising a God somehow just is freaky about being praised always)..

for 100,000,000 years... hahahahahaha no be me go tell you what you will do.. grin

"Bleep this, am out of hereangry" won't be far from it .. grin

If anything is wonderful and beautiful then it is the sadness and happiness, pain and joy, adventures and crazes this world provides..

nothing could be more enjoyable and meaningful than making each moment of this brief colourful life count..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 1:33am On Oct 14, 2015
Teempakguy:
I literally just became athei . . . agnostic . . . I really should not be going around "preaching" to people. grin grin

So, here's what I'm going to say. Conduct your experiment to find God. It's allowed according to the bible.

Ask anything. Jesus said. So, just have faith and ask God to reveal himself to you. By either appearing in your dreams(not great evidence) or speaking to you in the presence of a third party so everyone can hear his voice.
Gideon performed more ridiculous experiments. Like asking God to set a carcass on fire, or to make cotton wet . . . and God totally did it. I wonder why he has suddenly lost that ability.

So . . . if he doesn't, just keep trying. Eventually, no one will have to convert you before you realize how funny the whole thing is.

Uuhm you are preaching oo undecided ... hahahahaha..

just discuss these ideas when you can and leave people to their own personal reason to think for themselves..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 1:31am On Oct 14, 2015
Teempakguy:
I know . . . but I really hate the sound of the latter. Doesn't roll off the tongue like the former does.

People dubbed me atheistic before i ever referred myself as one, even when i realized i didn't share belief in Gods i still didn't fully embrace that tag..

But when you realize it is merely but a lingual representation or nominal tag for people who share no belief in personal Gods.

You realize you don't really need to refer to yourself with what you already are in essence..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 1:25am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
It's not that easy. I was definitely more religious than you were.
[b]Hahahaha make we no drag am wink

I lived with a rev fr for more than 2 years in a village parish though, i literally breathed mass every minute. .I wake up before 5:00am daily in the chilly morning cold of a village to go set up things for mass and set his vestments ready in the sacristy before mass starts.

In fact back in those days i rarely entertained having a girl near me in private, could you believe i left the room for a girl because she was touching me.. grin angry

I literally lived and breathed Christianity, in fact the church was my life but it was fun most times though, can still remember the large chunk of chicken i munched those days when ever i went on a mass invite or occasion invite with the priest, chai it was feasting things because food for priests are always prepared specially ... & we always went on such calls.

I have always been a curious being, i always entertained questions on the disturbing tenets of religion and it made me delve more into study (the rev frs study room was more like a library in fact it exposed me more to critical thinking)

and i plunged more into religion in order to discard and escape these questions.. But for where... grin
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 1:01am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
You converted him. And a number of other people....
You must feel very proud. undecided
lmao... i thought my arguments weren't solid enough..wink i wonder how it could be that effective..

Please i did not convert anybody and am sure i have never told anybody, leave theism and become an atheist... In fact most people who come to me asking questions emanating from the effect of abandoning religion, even tell them they don't necessarily need be atheistic just always use their reason and consistent logic in judgement.. i will add a screen shot to prove this..

And i only make my points and then leave it for people who read to think over, so i am not converting anybody wink deconvertion is mostly personal ...


I don't even know if I won't die before I complete this so-called stage you call it. I'm literally losing my mind.

Please don't loose your mind, belief is not worth loosing your mind over... there is a lot this world holds.

This your stage i usually call conflict of belief and reason, war between faith and reality..

A lot of pain and joy to experience and a lot of adventures to embark on and live a wonderful free life in a brief colourful world, just don't let this weigh you down..

I wouldn't like add more so as not to be accused of converting ..


I don't know how someone is a Christian and the next minute he is an atheist.
How does that even happen?

when you realize all you have been made to believe, indoctrinated into weren't different from others.

When you agree with yourself that surely enough there isn't anything backing up the claim of Gods that suggests such lay outs is any more than mere wishful thinking..


Were you ever a Christian even?

Probably more than you ever was. . . I was once even a seminarian... i still remember vividly those days.

I still enjoy singing most christian songs i love (they are just songs to me) most latin songs.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 12:34am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
Take it easy.
You're a newly converted atheist. You're still confused about how you feel.
It shows in your diary post.
Better chill for a week or two. smiley


Lol... at converted. . . am not sure anybody converted him though..

But remember he passed through a misotheistic stage of which you agree to be on now..

so i suggest you just don't put mind in thinking about these concepts or joining him won't be far
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 12:31am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
Oh....
Okay then. smiley
Please that i refute these ideas is because of it's disturbing effect on our society of which affects me too because i am in the society like everyone else..

So in case you discuss with some other person that might not be me, do not assume up things about the person. I find such assumptions really infuriating...

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 12:21am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
I just don't get why you don't believe in God.
Your arguments don't seem solid enough to me.
They are to me actually. . . And am sure to many.. it needn't be to you... smiley

I am a misotheist. I believe He exists, but I don't like him very much.
This position stems from inability for one to independently allow the implausibilities in such concepts slip away..

You just can't take letting go all you believe rather you just hate it..


And with the way you speak about him, you don't like him either.
So why tag yourself an atheist?
Adon unstern huh

Lmao... another unfounded assumption about me please for a second time do not make more assumptions about me. . I don't appreciate that..

Let me establish once again that i in no way not even in the least share any emotional feeling towards any God.

Not islamic Allah
not yahweh
not brahma
not zeus
not amadioha
not krishna
not lucifer

these are just ideas to me and a vague one at that.. One cannot hate ideas rather ideas are refuted..

And yes i am an atheist because i only disbelieve these concepts and do not hate them..


only thing that gives me concern is the effect the disturbing beliefs that comes with these concepts are having on the intellect of our youths . . like who think science is satan handiwork..

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 12:04am On Oct 14, 2015
MzNelly:
If you found out He actually did exist, what then?


Then i will know rather than believe that there is.. which surely enough is an honest position

Just as you and i do not need believe there is a sun, we are sure of it, we know of it. . . None need believe it with faith..

I know nothing of now that suggest that such vague concepts are nothing more than just wishful thinking
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 11:55pm On Oct 13, 2015
MzNelly:
I know deep down you believe there is a God.
Hahahahahaha avoid unfounded assumptions my dear cus really you don't. . . You just lied..

As a matter of fact i know deep down that i do not ... i lack what it takes to believe such vague concepts..

In fact let me make my position clear...
Let it never be mistaken that i believe in a Personal anthropomorphic God concept as one theism proposes.

Johnydon22 lacks belief in Personal Gods/God... i find such concepts childish and a feeble attempt to make sense of what is and a work of noble imaginative minds..


clear now? smiley

Who are you kidding?


Actually nobody, i am only honest with myself not to pretend there are imaginary fairies in the sky..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 11:43pm On Oct 13, 2015
MzNelly:
There is a God... smiley

I take it you are referring to an anthropomorphic Personal God...

A very nice and noble sentiment sweetheart (Though wreaks of absolutism)

Anyway am sure you don't mind when i say i don't believe you until you prove your claim right hun? wink

Because claims require proof for substantiation and absolute claims like this require absolute proof .. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 11:30pm On Oct 13, 2015
Teempakguy:
wow . . . that's a very long story. cheesy
Hahahahaha long and funny story this is...

the fact that God actually has NO evidence to support his own existence.


Hahahaha this always the funniest that a being that supposedly exists needs human to tell other humans and threaten them to believe it exists...

Only a man made God will need man to make itself known to man.. Am i right? wink


and most shocking, the fact that once upon a time, 70% of the entire world once wholly believed Zeus existed. that is so mind-blowing.
Lol..

Hellenistic religion is still practised today. . . Many people still worship Zeus as the one true God till this day..

Please don't blow your mind again on hearing this, i wouldn't like to answer to the police .. wink


and i think a lot. the more i thought, the more i realized i could have been tricked . . . by other people who have been tricked themselves, the blind leading the blind. huh

I have always affirmed that religion is a canoe paddled by ignorance of the masses..

Take away knowledge from the masses and you will have a control over them. . But a little curiosity drives one to take back this knowledge and you will get a mind free from such control..

this is what religions hate most, a free mind, a curious and knowledgeable mind that is why they discourage questions, doubts, curiosity but encourage blind faith..


the final blow, was surprisingly somewhat insignificant to most people.
god destroying Sodom and Gomorrah because they were gay and sinful. as well as killing a man's only wife of many years because she looked back. something most of these hypocritical Christians would do anyway, and then totally watching as his two daughters drugged him and had sex with him. i didn't know my mouth was wide open until some saliva dropped on the screen of the phone with which i was reading the bible.

lmao... you never really read your bible cheesy

remember yahweh was looking for at least 10 good people and he will spare the city but they must be thousands of innocent children in that city..

are these innocent numbers not good enough to spare the city since it was looking for 10 good people and these innocent children surely must have been in their hundreds of thousands.

I am sure this one never came to mindwink


that went against all of my morals, everything i had ever learned, they never told me what lot's daughters did. they only told me about how the greed of his wife killed her. and i never bothered to even read the place. i just assumed. cry
so i decided that such a God was not worth my worship. i would rather burn in hell than live with such a god for eternity. angry
Lmao...you deh vex oo... my girl friend is worth worshipping more so though smiley

but then i realized that the book was written by Moses who was not there. he made it all up.

Hahahaha actually modern scholarly consensus agrees Moses didn't write the torah, it was just a judaic theological tradition to hold him as the writer..

scholarly consensus establishes the torah was a collection of works of different timelines and authors . . . 4 different style of writing were observed from it leading them to conclude it was a work of 4 different authors at different timelines of hundreds of years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah check here ....


so i went from hating God to finding him hilarious.
this is called misotheism.. someone who believes a God exists but hates it..


since then, i just kept laughing at the outrageous claims the bible made. it's not real, damn it. some talented writers who had not yet discovered that just admitting you wrote a lot of bullcrap can get you a lot of money and can even get your book made into movies made it all up.
hahahahahahaha...

and then, the argument i posed in my diary where i came open, sealed the deal.
so . . . here i am. grin grin


Had being an incredible journey so far i must say smiley Always remain a freethinker and avoid making absolute assertions ..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op):
herald9:
Really?

All I saw was an intellectually dishonest dude, called Richirich713 grin


Hahahahahaha in all sincerity i wouldn't like to be this guy on this thread honestly..

the thread is is just so open and people are reading it, instead of someone blowing their own trumpets claiming feats they can't achieve why not simply let people who read it to judge who got dismantled tonight... Isn't it better that way bro? wink
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 10:18pm On Oct 13, 2015
Teempakguy:
like i earlier said, belief is not what you are saying it is. it has nothing to do with evidence or proof anything. read my earlier posts. i hate repeating things.
I was quite surprised when you identified and agreed fully to be atheistic bro..

What really happened, am curious ? wink
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Things That Happen When You Stop Being A Christian by johnydon22(m): 9:50pm On Oct 13, 2015
Shollyps:
lol...my brother....right from my childhood, I always av so many questions concerning religion n God.. like who created God, were is God etc..and also concerning some stories in the Bible.. why can't God just forgive Satan,why punishing the whole human race till date just because one guy eat apple and so on...but I just accepted everything by faith sha.
but wen I begin to read conversions BTW theist n atheist(I enter religion section almost everyday especially during HOLIDAYS).. I begin to see the flaws of religion,I began to question my believe....I don't think a perfect being needs praise or worship, a loving God will not create hell fire for unbelievers ...I began to realise that it doesn't make any sense..the old testament is something else..i still like the new testament n Christian songs sha ....I can't say categorically that am an atheist, but I just don't do religion anymore.. no prayer,no Church ..


This is a nice one, atheist and theist arguments paved way for the emergence of reason in you. . . That is always the effect when someone allows reason to scrutinize things believed by faith...

You don't necessarily need to be atheistic though unless you realize you don't share belief in personal Gods.

But as you are now one doesn't really need be atheistic to uphold reason more than faith..


but I av a question that is bothering my mind... do you believe in miracles?.. cos av read a lot of spiritual books,listen to audio sermon,read biography about men of God etc...and I realized that they performed many miracles.heal the blind,deaf,raise the dead....are they real?cos I still believe they are..awaiting your reply...

As a matter of fact i don't ... even as a theist back in the days i never did..

these are con men banking on the gullibility of desperate masses to extort them. . Thats why catholic church as an institution rarely pay mind to these claim because a little scrutiny and investigation shows quite the opposite.

Like i once watched a pastor heal a man that has been allegedly blind from birth and showed him his handkerchief and the man identified the color..

and people were shouting and clapping... How da fuuuuuck did a man blind since birth able to recognize any color when he eventually gets to see themhuh

These are mere childish shenanigans and mostly things that can still happen anyway like malaria got healed ..wink

Maybe they should show us something that cannot be faked like a hand that was cut off grown back again with prayers... wink

after all Buddist monks claim much feat than Christian pastors.. .like levitation..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 9:34pm On Oct 13, 2015
winner01:
Lol, Is this your "get out of jail card"undecided. Weak and Invalid card, why not tell us how life banged into existence or emerged by "natural interactions". And please if your reply is gon be "I dont know", dont even bother.
which one is get out of the jail....lmao.. You already know that i don't know.... I wouldn't blow my own trumpet here let the people reading this determine which is a weak argument.. wink

Actually i was not there so i will need an empirical study and scrutiny in order to determine what actually happened and this exactly what science is doing now... studying the available datas in order to reach a truthful approximation or do you expect me to assume up an answer?

So your answer remains I don't know sir ...
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 9:30pm On Oct 13, 2015
hahn:
I can't see any cup. So, to me the cup isn't there and it's only a figment of your imagination grin


No that you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there, you need to have faith and believe jt..

Don't you see? the flatness of the table suggest there must be a cup on top of it...
Is it not very obvioushuh

You need to have faith and believe so you can have a personal experience of the cup by faith..

as a matter of fact i know there is a cup on that table and my reference is here in a book where it is written that there is..

You still have not proven there is no Cup there...

my book says there is... undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 9:15pm On Oct 13, 2015
hahn:
They still don't get it though.
Well, tomorrow is another day smiley
We'll be back arguing the non-existence of a supreme being grin


hahahahahaha But am still waiting for someone to prove to me that there is no red cup on my table..

I have absolute faith there is, i believe there is and i feel it in my heart. . . In fact i have had a personal experience of my red cup..

the flatness of the table surface suggest that it must have a cup on it .. (Cups have flat bases so it fits perfectly that the cup must be on top of that table..)

https://pennstateelmscollection.com/images/squarecoffeetable.png

So hahn can you prove to me that there is no Cup on that table? angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love Really Limitless? by johnydon22(m): 9:08pm On Oct 13, 2015
[b]Good question ....

I have wooed many girls in my life and if i recall correctly i have never said
to any of them "I love you, love me back or i hurt you" any sane mind will
see that everything should be wrong in that statement.

The very idea of me hurting her if she doesn't love me back nullifies my
confession of love for her.


God says "I love you, if you don't love me back i will burn you in hell forever"
Am sure everyone can now see everything wrong in this, it is blackmail, it is
blatant abuse and the very sadistic idea of punishing someone because they
don't reciprocate your love reveals egoism at a chronic level, it is barbaric as
well as it is repulsive and blatantly implausible. Yet they want us to swallow
that a perfect being operates within such childish egoism and abusive ways.

https://www.nairaland.com/2496350/questioning-implausibilities-giving-reason-chance
The threat of torture for an act of not reciprocating a profession of love nullifies the profession of love in entirety..

Love the much i know as a human emotion is not judgemental, wrathful, hateful, anger, threat or torture rather love is acceptance, kindness, care and compassion and this emotion i have seen in most life forms in this planet even in a little way..


To dub such concepts an act of love as the Op asked means we have to change the definition of love to accommodate such chronic barbarism
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 8:56pm On Oct 13, 2015
hahn:
Fixed


Lol... this was just what i wanted to use to and cub the back to back argument this evening..

Beauty of nature suggest there must be an invisible creator behind it.

i showed him how beauty of desert sand dune, the artistic depiction does not mean an invisible designer did but simply action of wind on dust...

Just like the flatness of the table i posted suggest there must be an invisible Cup on top of it..

Tonight was fun!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: I Wish There Was A God (A Reply) by johnydon22(op): 8:49pm On Oct 13, 2015
winner01:

Atheist; There is no God.
Theists; The world didnt just bang itself into existence. God created it.
Atheist; Thats silly, you gotta prove that. show me God.
Theists; A good physical evidence is creation.
Atheist; Whats "creation" and why must there be a creator. Well, I dont know how existence came to be but why not just be honest like me and admit "You dont know".
[size=20]Theist; But i know, my reference is the Bible.[/size]
Atheist; Oh great,a man-made book
Theist; What then do you refer to.
Atheist; My knowledge and "More reasonable man-made books"
Theist; Ok, but why do you care so much? I mean, there is no God right.
Atheist; Simple, cos i dont believe and i need you and the world in general to think freely and "not believe" with me. We've been brainwashed for long. We need to stop believing.

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This is just right... lmao
Culture › Re: 6 Things We All Experience In Life by johnydon22(m): 7:58pm On Oct 13, 2015
trapQ:
No 6 and 2 are too imminent and inevitable.


I would say all but 2 and 5 actually are the same thing...

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