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Rilwayne001:
Let me ask you a question bro: What do you think about the christians that believed Jesus died for their sin and that in as much as they believe so, nothing is stopping them from making heaven? Do you think these christians don't have moral standard or what?

NOTE: I asked this question based on your reply above.

Richirich713:
Idiot, I never claimed Johnny believed that the universe came from nothing, I said I not sure wat he believes.

Rilwayne001:
Whatever

Original muslim thingy huh?

Now, that's where you got it all wrong, because I don't share similar belief.

Great you obviously have better moral standards than both your God and Muhammed.. am happy to hear that... Cus those two are sickos..

nani667:
If you want it in HD it's best to just search Google, and download via torrent.......

hahn:
Lol. Like being a real muslim is better than being a fake atheist

He is an original Muslim. . . I find it very shameful for me to revere a well known full blown pedophile, blatant liar, hallucinating arab man, a patient of psychosis...

Someone will devote his entire life revering someone who possess all the above traits worse of all has been dead for centuries now and still has the alacrity to spite others..

I love the tag fake atheist anyway I believe in a God, Uuuhm more like a Goddess my girl friend is the God i believe in.. so how am i even an atheist?

am a fake one joor...

Rilwayne001:
Calm down Fake atheist. My response was to that particular post/illustration by Joseph. Now re-read it.

LOL... I am a fake atheist. . that's cute i love that... You thought that was an insult?
well try harder bob. . . You are really an Original good muslim... This is a compliment..

Actually i read the post your reply was for and i find it very nonsensical, idiotic and blatantly hypocritical for you as a muslim who share belief in similar ideas to spite another.

You are here singing aloud how christians uphold belief in some Jesus better than good morals and you forgot your own freaking religion prizes belief in some Arab clothed God same way.

You have absolutely no basis on which to stand and chastise someone else for something you do if not even better...

tartar9:
all these are the results of the absence of true Shari'a.Shari'a is the solution.

tartar9:
boring sermon,Shari'a is the only solution.

Rilwayne001:
W W! In christianity, you won't be jugde by your work, you will only be judge by your faith in Jesus christ of Nazareth i.e. whether you accept that he died for your sins. Every other thing is nonsense, including doing good work. Even if you use all your life in doing good, once you don't believe Jesus died for your sin, you will burn in hell till enternity

Armstrong508:
can't anyone prove me wrong

How dafuq is anyone supposed to prove you wrong when your damn claim has not be proven by you in the first place..... you well

Dekatron:
Who gravity help? I want to go to an exhibition - advanced and I dnt have even a diode!!




God, Fvck you for not answering me after I begged ur silly arse!!

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Dude you have an issue with God? which one exactly

Ucheosefoh:
Two years ago I introduce myself two years later them introduce themselves I still de wonder get a tie and suit yourself. man of the year

Richirich713:
Yes I agree he is never direct about his views(since he doesn't like the word belief).

He doesn't state clearly what his views are on the origin of the universe.

Richirich713:
Didn't u tell me:

"Law of energy conservation states: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed..
In other words the interacting elements gravity/matter also was. . . therefore needs no creator"

Sure seems like u trying to science laws to support ur atheist views.

Then tried to used the same law to to support ur view that energy was eternal to avoid having to say wat most atheists say, namely "nothing created the universe "
Yet nw u say u don't know how the universe came into existence.

hahn:
Bar man, abottle of pure water for that tall dude.

Him don try

Lol... the thread has been treated and finished. . . My illness is even holding me down now..

Anyway it has been served. . am done with it... let me go take my medications..

Johnydon22: Signing out..

Richirich713:
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sonmvayina:
judge for your self, that is the cylinder seal...it is more than 3 thousand years..i dont think that was done by the people you called primitive, do you?

Jeromejnr:
Stop giving yourself too much faceplams, your face might turn blue.

Now some people say they have seen God before but you say it's a lie even without your so called systematic deductions to prove it false.
Isn't that hypocritical.

You showed me hypothetical theories that you based your belief on but I could as well show you concrete facts from the scriptures which makes me a believer in God and not based on assumptions.

Your life is based on an assumption, most Theists lives are based on experiences (supernatural).

Therefore you have no right to say Theism or a belief in a God was an assumption without proofs.

I believe in science in fact I love it. If you ask me I would tell you I very well believe in the existence of aliens. But even if that is true, it does not disprove the existence of God in any way.

You can't sit down in your house and say there is no where in the world where they have underwater bridges because you haven't seen it. You have to first prove it before you establish it as a fact/law.

Actually atheistic stance is not like that..... Rather disbelief in irrational assumptions is a very valid position.

I can tell you right now i have a pink flying unicorn here with me, now give me proof that i don't..

The onus remains on the claimant to produce proof not the one who doubts the claim..

The whole point of my debate with you was to show you can't attack theists with your speculations. You have no proof if they have encountered a God or not.

Such a bad job you have done at that... Try harder next time ..

Jeromejnr:
So after seeing all this is hypothetical, why the rage against Theism?

Jeromejnr:
So If Big Bang was an expansion what was it expanding? The claim of an older universe is an hypothesis.

Look, we could be talking all forms of hypothesis all day and not get anywhere.
Different science notions from different scientists. And yet you guys fell you are more smarter than the "deluded" theists. SMH.

malvisguy212:
NO my friend, you are the one who need to see reason , seat down and think again. You said energy is eternal , but it has been proven that the universe is NOT eternal. Does this make sense? Energy is eternal but the universe BEGAN to exist, are you
Confused? Me too.

Your explanation was not in harmony with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This law also declares that the energy available to perform work in the universe progresses from a state of order to a state of greater disorder and decrease in usable energy. Yes energy is not eternal.

Which in every sense proves that energy transcends from one form to another, some in greater quantum value and some in less but never annihilated as the first law assert..

Energy can never be created nor destroyed but changes from one state to another..

Your confusion remains yours...

Jeromejnr:
*Facepalm* in an unending loop.
How do I get this in your head?
Space is like a sheet of paper that is stretching out, now somewhere on a part of the sheet there happens to be a collapse which goes against that expansion. But because the sheet of paper (space) is still stretching, it pulls that collapse which results in (well paper does not have gravitational fields so...) which cause the Big Bang not the Big Bang causing the expansion. Big Bang is not an expansion for crying out loud. Is English hard for you?
In fact that would bring us to dark energy.

Jeromejnr:
The only point I am interested in here was the assertion which you said I made.

Must you try in any way to bring me down?

Firstly it wasn't my assertion but that of physics. here is a link: [email]http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae251.cfm[/email]

Secondly my comment:
I said I believed from scriptures that nature is infinite. But what did my last sentence say? Since we were talking science and not scriptures I decided to use it against you to show speculations and imperfection of your claim.
So you got nothing on me son.

Lmao... all contradicting statements all are of your making.... You are the one that asserted that is is held that nature is finite..

That is why i keep telling you your posts are self refuting...

Jeromejnr:
The Irony.

So you don't believe most of what you've been saying with the agreement that science still has a lot of facts to uncover but yet you use those same theories to attack people that believe in a God
Hypocritical.

So how can you prove theists are deluded using imperfect science? How can one come up with a conclusion that there is no God?

Actually this is easy. .
- First showing off the irrationality of such concepts .. (The concept of Gods is filled up with such irrational ideas.. )

- Second employing the established truthful approximations as reached by scientific study as we know it

- Postulating to the fact that we don't know doesn't mean we should assume up irrational answers rather that means we should strive to learn.

I have just wasted my time debating with someone I thought knew what he believed in.

[b][i]Actually you keep trying to drag me down your mess of having a belief..

Sir it remains your mess, science is study and not an immutable dogma or a belief system..

Jeromejnr:
I thought you were intelligent. Collapse in science means to fall into. So when a gravitational field collapses it falls in itself.

Please how is falling an expansion for crying out loud. Let me show you how silly your point is: The universe right now is expanding, so does that mean it is collapsing or breaking down? Chai!

Don't put words in my mouth. Like I say always Big Bang is an explosion as a result of the collapse.

Collapse of nothing huh? you are the one who asserted nothing exploded right there on your Op..

Now am sure i have shown you the Big Bang theory asserts an expansion not explosion of which both your link and wikipedia agrees with me

Jeromejnr:
Thrown to me? I never placed the universe under the confines of a finite value Mr. Man. That is even against the scriptures I believe. I just used your scientific postulations against you who loves to call theories actual facts.

Hahaha now you want to deny your own assertion?
Don't worry i will bring it for you and every other person to see.. You said

I am sure maybe you didn't study physics in
school. Singularity represents an infinity. And nature is regarded as finite.

Now let me see you deny you didn't assert the universe was finite.. i thought lying was supposed to be a sin, now you deny your own post..

Since our minds can't grasp the universe which will be more sane, to believe that an intelligent being created all this or to believe all this came from unintelligence.

There is nothing intelligent about water. Do you even know what intelligence is? Intelligence deals with the ability to make mental decisions.

Now for God to have come from another? Is that why you are an atheist? Don't you think we would be trying to past our limited brains to grasp that? That was why God said of Himself: "I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending". Now that will be where the concept of faith comes in.

Now you clearly did not read my post to understand before you jumped to conclusions. Look at it again:
We are both saying the same thing. I said Primitive men knew science even before our present age and not the opposite.

Jeromejnr:
So what do you believe in exactly?

Are you confused?
So you do not subscribe to a theory but where pumping it into my head that Big Bang was an expansion? SMH

Since you don't know what you believe in, I need to watch a movie.

This is why Jesus said "Humans without God are like sheeps without shepherds".

Only a sheep needs a shepherd, you just agreed to be one.....

wow no wonder.. i could have guessed tho.