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KingEbukasBlog:
If your own understanding of existence means dwelling then you are on your own
Ossheeyy

Ebuka exists on Milky way galaxy but dwells on Andromeda galaxy Lmao. . now imagine how you will sound when you will try to distance God's existential dimension to it's dwelling place. . .Try it and murder yourself here..

The universe needs no creator is a mere assertion which you cannot prove

KingEbukasBlog:
Unrelated causation ? But the Big Fraud Theory comes to mind quickly

Lmao. . .take that up with big bang theorists or better still scientists.

Fun fact: Big bang theory was first postulated by a theist not just any theist but a christian, in fact a catholic priest named Georges Lemaître . . It is a scientific theory you just seem threatened by it because it goes contrary to your beliefs.

Basically , Evolution as in physical modification . Do you even get what I mean ?

So you saying a baby evolves to an adult but intellectually and otherwise?

Evolution simply means development and for development to occur their must be changes.

Now you want to reconcile primitive men and modern with babies and and adult differences. .Good.

You continue to prove man's intellect developed with time and so primitive men were never as intelligent as modern man is now neither are we going to be as intelligent as coming generations of humans.

Development is a constant process..

KingEbukasBlog:
Breaking point reached

Is God living in a material/physical world ? Again ... we are arguing for an uncreated God and not where He dwells

You don't even understand your own arguments. .

You are still the one who asserts God exists (dwells) outside space and time and now you want to dump that premise?

That's not too good an argument bro. . .You are still trying to boycott the principle of causation and the same time employ it for the universe. . Ayam sorry

Does everything that exist require a creator? Yes. then for God to exist it must also require a creator.

No. .then the universe needs no creator...

KingEbukasBlog:
LMAO ... its a frecking design !!!! You are just explaining how it works.
Science studied the human brain and understood emotions .

Hhmmm you just ran out of argument.. . You sure do know according to Christians God get angry which is an emotion, this is also design? hahahahahahahaha lets hear it.

2NDLY I simply postulated how natural interactions bring about results which debunks your assertion of unrelated causation. . .Just calm down and learn..

Modification ?
I never said that oo . I said attainment of full capabilities . There were no
modifications

And this shows such a thing in it's initial state had to develop in order to attain the present capabilities still leans you towards evolutionary postulation.

Bros Evolution is a wacky theory huh?

Its simple analogy
Man was created and then developed intellectually over a long time through
experience and study just like a a young one gaining knowledge passing through
stages of education - nursery , primary , secondary , tertiary .
The mental state is the object now

KingEbukasBlog:

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What kind of ludicrous fatuous deduction is this ? And I even put the universe in quote ooo ... LMAOOOOOOO
We are discussing about an uncreated God and not where He dwells or His angels

And so betrays when someone runs out of juice... You see the condition your assumptions has put you into.

Now you want to deny the principle of causation which you employed? . . Chai. . . weak

By now asserting an uncreated God that exists on it's own without another God existing outside it's dimension in order to bring it into existence shows the universe do not also need a creator existing outside it to create it.

If you assert the universe must require such then you employ back the chain of infinite regress..

Go on, choose again..

Cam here and defend science osiso

Hahaha defend? You simply should have said, please come and teach me science and we would go down to basics at least start from simple definition of biological organism because you probably would freak out if i dabble into quantum mechanics..

KingEbukasBlog:
Without proof ?

SOMETHING EXISTS OUTSIDE TIME - ITS COMMON SENSE

Hahahaha is this where it landed you? . . .Hmmm pity.

First you have not told us what outside time is exactly, you are still laying claim of which demands proof. .

It is not common sense, it is actually common insanity

KingEbukasBlog:
So then can we conclude that you dont know why man has emotions ? Because that was the basis of the above argument

Am sure i laid out what emotions are, perceptive projections as a result of neurointeractions in a biological entity. . .You probably didn't understand that

We have concluded that now you have leaned your argument towards agreeing with the idea of evolution by instigating modification for adaptation. . You are an unknown evolutionist

From your way of reasoning , babies should hold academic degrees

Aaaaw am so so sure people reading this can identify which among us is still quite juvenile in reason.

When a sane human compares the intellectual prowess of modern man and primitive men in order to deny development in intellectual capabilities which is evidently clear by simply looking at both civilizations make me want to cover my face in shame for you ooo

KingEbukasBlog:
God is the creator of all things and Angels are His creations .

Time is a characteristic of our universe and not God's "universe " . So obviously at some point the were created . By the way , the angels witnessed creation

Meaning that another God must exist outsides Gods universe in order to create God's universe. . Following your ludicrous analogy of unrelated causation, see how you killed your own argument?

God exists outside this universe in order to create this universe (in your own words exists in his own Universe) Now another God must have existed outside God's universe in order to create God's universe. . .And so we are back again to the chain of infinite regress. . you can never escape it

But ... but .... We are arguing for an uncreated God and not the Angels Johnny is reaching his breaking point

I think you just reached that by not knowing what is called reversed psychology. . . You still have not told us at what point Angels were created

You mean the Big Fraud Theory ? You don't agree with the Big Fraud Theory beautified into find garden of language and don't agree with the SCAMvolution theory ?

My friend ya a christian with style sha

Aaaaw thats cute, the muslims think so too...

So at what point in an always existing universe did time start then accretion of the earth then abiogenesis and then evolution ?

Am sure i referred you to a theory that asserts this point. . "BIG BANG theory"

KingEbukasBlog:
[size] There is no proving [/size]its common sense and you agreeing means you have to believe in God so you see then see it as illogical or a "theory" worth proving . Unless you can explain the initial conditions of the Big Fraud Theory and why it denies the first cause

Actually , there was nothing to grab there . It does not even hold water

KingEbukasBlog:
Its based on one concept - design
Man and any other organism were designed to adapt . Simple

The so called improvement is the gradual attainment of an organism's full capabilities . Evolution gives a false impression of a gradual improvement over a long period of time .

The primitive men had the same level of intelligence as the modern man . Its like they were fresh after creation by God

Yes that is why Adam flew an airplane

"Why" begs for reason and then purpose

KingEbukasBlog:
@johnydon22


If the universe has always been existing at what point was time , matter , planets , gases formed ?

The universe is comprised of all these . So if the universe is an always existing entity then its constituents have always been existing

KingEbukasBlog:
Based on Faith ? LOL

Something has to exist outside time to cause the existence of our universe . Its a simple as that .

You mock me for "asserting" that an uncreated God made the universe and then you distance yourself from the inanity of an always existing universe with "an unproven claim" gibberish . LOL again

KingEbukasBlog:
Is asking you why cars have tyres a logical fallacy too ?
You are obviously insinuating that you dont know why and it just happened . Init ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Lest I forget

@johnydon22 . We believe in an un- created God - a supreme being . Why do you think there is no possibility such can happen or there is such thing as a supreme being ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Those examples he gave are evidences that the human body is a design . Why do you think nature gave us emotions ? Please be plain and simple , no rigmaroles

This is more like asking me why do gravity form stars from matter..

Because you have left out the vital fact that the "Brain" is the organ in charge of emotions.

So emotions is not an external thing but a projection of your senses, emotion is a projection of the brain and is simply as a result of millions of neurointeractions in a biological entity..

Now by saying "Why" you have personalized nature by instigating a purpose for emotion therefore steering the phenomenon of emotion from the fact that it is simply a result of natural interactions of neurons and ultimately perception.

This is just like when you asked me "Why do we use the eyes to see"

Another logical fallacy... wonder when you will start leaving logical fallacies out of your discussions or maybe you don't even realize when you use them

KingEbukasBlog:
It does not answer my question though . Is that to be considered as a negative proposition . Yes or no ? I admire the skillful evasion though .

Plus ...
Life cannot come from the non living and then evolve to super complex forms like us . God (supernatural) orchestrated the process of life formation . I remember you telling me that you dont support the theory of evolution though you use it to explain the genesis of life formation .
Its a dumb theory beautified with flowery language in the name of science to deceive the weak . Admit it John , its a dumb theory

Taa ... mechigonu ... see ya mouth . I give you the audience so that should be my pay

ekemini606:
You are right! The constitution never said believe in me or I will punish you.
What it said was if you kill, steal,...etc. I will punish.
Which is pretty much what God said also if you follow the general theme of christian.
Death has always being as a consequence for sin.

First God is a spirit, and this spirit is the word,
if you believe this word, then you believe in God.
The word is then the law of sin and death.
Thou shall not kill, what is it about that, that is so evil,
Thou shall love thy neighbour as thyself. Are these not the word of God? Which we christian say is God himself.

So lets take it further into the doctrines of Xtianty.

The bible says "Whoever does not believe in him is condemned already"

So to you a Hindu lacks belief in your God concept will a Hindu be saved to the Christian heaven?

ekemini606:
Like hunger, love, desired..e.t.c..don't u think that God also, was pre_installed in man (permitte my term).

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol .. johnny ... lets end this argument with this :

I have proof that God exists which you guys dont agree with . Evolutionists have proof that evolution (macro) exists which creationists dont agree with , is an evolutionist asking a creationist to prove that there is no such thing as evolution considered as a negative proposition ?

This two positions rest on the interpretation of observations in a scientific term. . . Islamist think the sun goes round the earth their postulation is an explanation of actually seeing the rising and setting, this is not evidence but simply explanation of an observation some concluded after observing that the sun rests on a giant turtle, so this postulations are employed to explain real phenomenons just like the "God did it" hypothesis .

Evidence simply is when someone travels to space and first hand take a picture of the earth...

So pray tell, can you spell out one of your evidences

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What do you think?

You paying right?

ekemini606:
When the law say do not steal/kill or face a certain penalty, that's no threat right?
But when a devine creator say same, it suddenly becomes a threat.
Play on.

oizapendent:
I don't argue about issues like this, i believe everyone is entitled to his or own opinion, and no one has the right to force any religion or belief on anyone. It's a free world.

KingEbukasBlog:
You "brilliantly" gave an analogy to suite your stance in the argument . Come on !!!

My illustration was simply a summary of all you have been saying here ..."Prove to me that God doesn't exist " . . .hahahahaha

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are quick to conclude . I still insist that the concept of Hell has not been fully grasped most christians .

We attack the idea that is laid out not the one that you think you are yet to grasp.

The concept of HELL as laid out by Christianity probably doesn't make sense to you that's why you think they got it all mixed up and hasn't grasped it fully yet..

KingEbukasBlog:
lmao ... the statement is a negative proposition from your own perspective ... simple

Not yet sha ... but very soon

Romantic story ?

ekemini606:
If there where no God atheist wont exist.
Truly makes God creator of all things.
.

ekemini606:
Dnt reali know how to get this across to you
But when it comes to God, am illogical on purpose,
Am un reasonable on purpose.

There are there are things that run on logic and there are things that dont.

oizapendent:
My question exactly is "do you feel threatened??" I mean when one is being threatened by what he or she doesn't believe in, we tend to wave it off and not feel threatened, but when you are bothered about the threat, it means there's something up for real or there is need to be frightened because the threat is for real. So why feel threatened when it just a threat that has no basis. #JustSaying

oizapendent:
And you feel threatened?

Airforce1:
Who is she?

Aaaaaah indomie generation. . . . This shows you just started watching Ini edo type of nollywood of yesterday.

You did not watch the award winning movie Vuga. . .starring Gentle Jack and Regina Askia. . .Aaaaah you na 2000s pikin oo.

Like the poster above said "Bros me anytime you want to quote me "

OgundeleT:
Hahaa lwkmd. That is murder of logic, has any1 proved his existence to a logical conclusion b4? No. then I av nothing to prove, u are the one to prove that he exist by negating the claim that he exist

Let me demonstrate how theistic logic works here

PROVIDING PROOF

OGUN: i have a diamond ball (Claim)

DELE : I don't believe you, prove it

OGUN: Here see it (Brings out diamond ball... Claim proven)

DELE: Yes you do have a diamond ball (Agrees)

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THEISTIC LOGIC

OGUN: I have a God who created the universe and all other shenanigans and stuff (Claim)

DELE: I don't believe yo, prove it.

OGUN: You can't prove that i don't have a God

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THEISTIC LOGIC 2

OGUN: I have a God this holy book said so (claim)

DELE : I don't believe there is such a thing prove it

OGUN : It is written on my holy book so that is my proof (using a claim as evidence)

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Lmao. . .am sure this illustration above shows how absurd it sounds when one ask the disbeliever of his claim to prove his claim is not true..

KingEbukasBlog:
Then can you prove to me God does not exist ?

Hahahahahaha this one is funny bro...

The burden of proof is on the claimant not the one that disbelieves the claim. How can one disprove that which has not been proven, that is tantamount to disproving nothing.

Ok this like "A diamond flying pig horse exist" Ok prove to me it doesn't.

You see? it is i who makes the claim that should be proving my postulation not you who probably doubt it.

You just murdered logic. . . .This logical fallacy is called "Burden of proof reversal"

Asking one to prove a negate. . . .Lack of proof of the posit already is all the proof against it………

Anyway am starting a new story on the website today, have you registered?

KingEbukasBlog:
Respect ALL God concepts