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 Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 9:39am On Sep 25, 2015 |
hahn: Nope Copy and paste |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 9:38am On Sep 25, 2015 |
malvisguy212:[b]I see it totally wrong to subject a child to the fear of an imaginary smoke caused by an imaginary cigarette. A child for crying out loud knows nothing of a cigarette why would subject a Child to the threat of violence and torture in order to instill your idea of idiotic morality. This as always continues to betray the disturbing mindset religion and theism as a whole has infused in the mind of many people. Threaten a Child who is not up to the age cognition with fire and death. That you need to instill this fear on a little child shows your ideas simply are not factual and so you fear it being presented to an adult. Why not wait for a little kid to grow up to the age of reason, cognition and basic sense of self before presenting ludicrous myth to him as truth. What i always and will always see as a shameful and nonsensical act of immorality is to tell a Child that if they are not good or do not believe what you believe they will burn in a fire forever, making reward and punishment a basis for belief and morality. That you resort to threat as a basis of belief shows your belief as ludicrous as it is, is in no way factual or truthful since it shies away from an independent neutral mind but relies on the indoctrination of young minds. That is blatant abuse, evil, disturbing and all round unhealthy to the mind of a Child. I will never know what it will feel as a parent to lie and threaten my children to ensure conformity. Sadly even though you are an adult you are still a pitiable victim of this fear and unjust indoctrination.. [/b] 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Practise Cannibalism Witchcraft Through Communion by johnydon22(m): 8:56am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Bros it's just bread, nothing more. . . . Did the definition of cannibalism change recently? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Oga Seun, Give Us(christians) A Room Of Our Own by johnydon22(m): 8:53am On Sep 25, 2015 |
There is a christian Chatroom here https://www.nairaland.com/1114515/christian-chatbox-sticky.. And the reason why Islam section was created was to find a compromise for any potential ruse that may arise.. https://www.nairaland.com/1947119/let-us-more-tolerant-each |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Significance Of Sallah To Nigerians/Africans. by johnydon22(m): 8:40am On Sep 25, 2015*. Modified: 1:37pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mellin:This is arguable ... Here we are with a purpose but some of us doesn't even know the reason we exist including u[b]When you say purpose you have driven it to the position that they must be a purpose giver. We are simply part of this universe which simply means we are just another part of the universe experiencing the universe. Purpose of anything is what you give, i didn't ask my parents to give birth to me. So my purpose is determined by me in this one chance of life i found myself in. Purpose of anything is subjective to the individual. . . Purpose of life is an individual matter and your purpose in life is exactly what you make it out OR want it to be. Some people determine their purpose in life is to chase after the shadow of paradise in an afterlife, therefore paying little mind to this one life that we all are sure is real. As an agnostic atheist i have many purpose independent of external influence but mine and chasing the fantasy of afterlife is not one of them for me. Neglecting the earth for paradise is like neglecting substance for shadow. My purpose in life all revolves around Me, family, friends, Kids, Earth, and enjoying my life the much i can. Ensuring i make the most out the one life i have. A life filled with Love, charity, friendship, music, laughter, adventure, intellectual satisfaction, peace, study, tears, forgiveness, happiness, risk, pains, JOY. . . . What more can i ask of myself. . . My purpose is to be happy, and the time to be happy is now, where to be happy is here, where we are (planet earth) and how to be happy is to make others happy[/b] .... I don't believe in religion, I believe in the universe as the almighty creator of allThis really is the point. . .Every entity in this universe are results of the interactions of elements in the universe and this includes us. This i agree with.. and enki as d primordial God of human race who created us to dominate this planet earth and for a purposeThis is where i disagree. You asserted above the universe birth all (which includes us) how come Enki now did it and no longer the universe. To this assertion of personal Gods i don't believe or agree with. Since Enki must create us to give us a purpose then it appeals to logic that Enki must also have a purpose which in turn must have been given to it by another God and so it spans on and on in an infinite regress of Gods and purpose givers.. ... Just like u said no horse riding dude will come down to save us. All we got is this planet earth and no else whereExactly Ever ask ur self the reason for existing... Or do u believe believe we exist to live life and then die...You did not ask to exist and so since you are here to witness the universe, take part in every activity this world provides and the pains and joys in comes with afterwards like every other Biological entity you will die. There is no clue that this simply isn't what is happening... Let's reason for once, let's keep the fact u don't tally with my view aside cos we are almost in the same track.I am all for it... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Is Only Problem We Have On Earth, Do You Believe? by johnydon22(m): 8:28am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Jason27:[b]No i disagree with religion being the only problem of mankind We have many other problems facing humans today like Politics which in some cases walks hand in hand with religion. Greed, selfishness and unhealthy policies affecting human lives. Why is that there is little money to build hospitals, roads, feed hungry children in almost every society but there is always money to build new weapons of war and mass destruction? Why is it there is no money in the treasury to ensure Children get 1 meal per day but there is always money to buy new weapons. The world will never know peace as long as there are people who make money from wars. Religion is not the only problem facing mankind and should not be seen as such, Man also is a problem to mankind not just what man believe. If you look around you no deity not Yahweh of the bible or Allah of the Quran can by themselves kill a human, it takes a human to kill another human for God. If a human don't squeeze the trigger of a gun a gun will not shoot itself. Humans are the number one problems with this world, we go around looking for the problems of the world forgetting that we ourselves create this problems. A little look around the world will live in will reveal that the threat to this mankind is not our beliefs, not any God, deities flying down from the sky to rapture it, zombies or vampires or any other fictional constructs of our wild imagination. No the only threat to this world is Man who ironically sees himself as a victim of this problem he created. Mankind must put an end to wars or wars will put an end to mankind[/b] |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Is Only Problem We Have On Earth, Do You Believe? by johnydon22(m): 8:17am On Sep 25, 2015 |
NOBODYY:Funny enough Islam is a religion |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 8:15am On Sep 25, 2015 |
hahn:Am just tired of him posting unrelated copy and paste posts on a thread. . 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your God Is Too Small by johnydon22(m): 7:11am On Sep 25, 2015*. Modified: 8:00am On Sep 25, 2015 |
[b]It is said truly astronomy is both an astonishing and a humbling discipline. When you look out into the skies and find it bubbliing and swimming with trillions of stars, planets, asteroids, moons. When you find out that our Earth is simply a pale blue dot in the solar system orbiting a gigantic sun. and this Gigantic sun is simply a small ball in the inster Stella neighbourhood around which in return is simply a small peck of dust in the milky way. And this milky way is but a dot amidst billions of other galaxies swimming around in a random dance of gravitational music. You will laugh at any individual who claims they are having a personal relationship with the creator of the universe. Because the creator of such a vast universe of countless stars and planets is busy concerning himself with whether an ant(human) in a very little dust(earth) masturbates or not. Or busy asking and threatening some ants in the pale dust to worship it or busy bearing grudges with little ants in a very tiny dot held up by the beams of the sun. This in our pride and self exultation we have pride ourselves the important parts of the universe but just a little peek into the heavens around us reveals just how insignificant we are. Just how small we are and just how laughable the doctrines we have formulated in our moments of pride. Our ego have betrayed us into prizing ourselves important while we are simply too small, our greed has made us see ourselves prone to another chance of life in this sense wasting the little beautiful and brief chance our universe provides. A simple look at the universe is enough to show you that all the Gods, titans man has conceived are simply too small.. Photo of earth as taken by Voyager one space probe, earth is just the tiny white dot i identified with an arrow. Just imagine at a puny distance of a few million miles the earth seem like a dot meaning at a distance of a billion miles one cannot even see anything called earth. Makes one rethink our place in this universe and our duties to ourselves, in our delusion and greedy religious doctrines and dogmas we should only realize that we only have an obligation to ourselves and the earth. Because we are all we've got. We only have each other and this earth, no horse riding deity or armor wearing God is coming to help us change anything, only us can do that for ourselves [/b] 15 Likes 11 Shares
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 11:10pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
^^^^ Why is it that this guy always talks out of point in every thread. . .always brings about unrelated assertions to the topic of a thread.. Seriously am just too tired of idiotic assertions 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 9:39pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
hahn:  1 Like |
| Family › Re: Slut Walk For Women's Right by johnydon22(m): 8:46pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
[b]When a man goes shirtless he is praised for showing off six packs when a woman shows off her stomach in a dress she is a slut. These injustice has being one that made men think it is their societal right to impose their idea of decency on women by being the one to dictate what women should wear in order to be dubbed decent. This injustice makes it ok for people to blame a victim of rape for wearing what she wanted instead of blaming and prosecuting the pervert who perpetrated this act. This injustice in many cases have resulted to a female victim of rape being punished even when she is the victim, some up to the level of killing her in the name of restoring honor. I have always and will always affirm that a woman's body is not dangerous to anybody, a woman's body will no make you do stupi_d things. That you do stupi_d things is because you want to do stupi_d things, that you do stupi_d things is because you are too stupi_d to stop yourself from doing stupi_d things. Women have the right to wear what they love and feel comfortable in without being threatened with rape same way men have the right to wear what they feel comfortable in. None have the right to impose their idea of decency on others or blame their inability to have self control on the dressing of the victim. That's a worse form of societal injustice.. [/b] 19 Likes 13 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 3:16pm On Sep 24, 2015*. Modified: 4:15pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
krattoss: That is it. you or i cannot change the way the world works, we can only change the world around us. Like you cannot sweep the whole of the market when it is dirty but you can do your own part by sweeping the front of your shop, in that little way you contribute to the sweeping of the market. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
| Art, Graphics & Video › Re: Mobile Photographers: Show Off Your Stuffs by johnydon22(m): 3:08pm On Sep 24, 2015*. Modified: 3:42pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
Let me show my first timer amateur handiwork here.. I know say i still deh learn oo for una side... Picture of my legs on my basketball snickers during training... Camera tecno G9 edited with PicSay Effects. 3 Likes
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 2:46pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
cidieschat: Alright i have sent you a BMM invite |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Over 700 Idol Worshippers In Mecca Dead by johnydon22(m): 2:42pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
vooks:Good!!!.. I believe everything is clear now. I believe we can all see how wrong it is to bank on the tragedies of others in order to instigate religious/belief superiority.. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Over 700 Idol Worshippers In Mecca Dead by johnydon22(m): 2:19pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
vooks:This surely wasn't my question. I asked... "Is the office of the real God determined by the absence of tragedies witnessed by it's adherents? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 2:11pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
tribeofdavid: If you actually read the Op, you wouldn't have asked this question. . . I advice you read it up first or again if you did cus it seem to me you are missing something here . 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Pope Francis Really A Catholic? by johnydon22(m): 2:04pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
krattoss: lol Sed potest adhuc interrogandi rome  Anyway i see no reason why these ones here are yapping about the pope. The man spoke about problems that are of immediate threat to the world and humanity like climate change, refugee crisis and a host others. They expect him to dabble into unrelated topics and start quoting the bible, last i checked there is no bible passage that talked about climate change. And climate change is a growing global crisis and concern. This is what you get when people cannot think for themselves according to the time but employ outdated ideologies of medieval men to run their lives. Here there are yapping over the pope who talked about real issues and not biblical imaginary issues.. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Significance Of Sallah To Nigerians/Africans. by johnydon22(m): 1:46pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
theAtheist101:Exactly also talk about BOKO HARAM and ISIS. . . These ones are warring, murdering and pouring violence on the earth because they think they are doing it for God. Nothing makes someone commit such evil more cheerfully than when they think they are doing for religious purpose and so it's ok by God. These are the instances where "FAITH" becomes a dangerous position.. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 1:41pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
dalaman: That is it ooo my brother, Nigeria is a typical example where more than 95% are religious but yet doesn't subscribe to basic societal decency. This shows that humans should be encouraged to strive for goodness because they want good to happen and not a means to an end which is a reward or punishment. Such selfish concepts are not even moral themselves... 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Significance Of Sallah To Nigerians/Africans. by johnydon22(m): 1:17pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
theAtheist101: Because they feel the need to celebrate a man who nearly killed his son when in the real sense such people are dubbed insane and dangerous. That a sane human praises someone who had the stomach to attempt killing his child shows such human has a dangerous tendency of committing the same crime if ever the need arises. Since they see it as a virtue to kill your son if a voice in your head (God) says so.. But alas most people in religion have never, will never and can never give a thought to the things they believe and revere. They only believe in without thinking because they have been indoctrinated and coerced to believe it without question. That is a characteristic of simpletons.. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 1:12pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
krattoss:I am only responsible for the things i write, i am not responsible to understand it for people. That i write this is to get any reasonable mind to think and at least weigh the possibilities of saving the little ones from this psychological abuse that is mostly seen as a societal norm... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Significance Of Sallah To Nigerians/Africans. by johnydon22(m): 1:02pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
Abraham/Ibrahim a man who was ready to murder his son because some voices in his head told him to. Anyone who think it is right to revere such individuals who exhibit such barbaric tendencies must be blatantly idiotic. In the world today nobody will revere such persons who will almost kill their Child because God said they should. No in the world today that person would have been in prison for attempted murder and psychiatric hospital for mental evaluation. And the little child taken to a better place to recover from the shock and trauma such disturbing event must have caused. But Alas an ancient books praised a man who exhibited such lunacy and people created religions around him.... Many ways religion turns 21st century being into complete simpletons 5 Likes 4 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Over 700 Idol Worshippers In Mecca Dead by johnydon22(m): 12:56pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
vooks: So i take it that the office of the real God is determined by the absence of tragedy witnessed by the believers? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 12:54pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
krattoss: If you want to make the world a better place start from yourself because it is the single individuals in the world that makes up people in the world. You start by reaching out to the people closest to you, by teaching your children without employing the fear factor because it cages a child's mind. You cannot hope to change the world but you can change the world around you... 8 Likes 4 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 12:17pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
krattoss: Which is why you should teach children to be nice not threaten them into conformity. Teach your children to be good to people because the world deserves goodness, that good is good to happen and because they should believe that there is good in the world and aspire to be good. Not threaten them with fire in order to coerce them to submit to your idea of morality. I have no problem with adults teaching the young ones, in fact my post supports and encourages it. My problem comes from threatening them. It instills psychological trauma and prison in their minds of which i know too well. Teach them what they need to know not threaten them or instill fear to ensure submission. 7 Likes 5 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Over 700 Idol Worshippers In Mecca Dead by johnydon22(m): 11:03am On Sep 24, 2015 |
Vooks what happened to human compassion, what happened to the sadness caused by the death most especially such horrifying death of another human. Why would you utilize the misfortunes of others in order to use it as a tool to propagate religious superiority. Such eroding of basic human compassion in the face of tragedies on others is not a healthy feel in the least for the earth... This is wicked as it is disturbing 11 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: BREAKING: At Least 717 Dead, 800 Hurt In Stampede At The Hajj. by johnydon22(m): 10:06am On Sep 24, 2015 |
Watching it now on CNN and Al jazera. . .This is really sad and disheartening.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 9:56am On Sep 24, 2015 |
dalaman:[b] I think this is so because humans have always been taught there is need for a catch to coerce the mind to conformity, this shouldn't be so. Man prizes himself an intelligent being, this being should not be threatened into conformity but rather this intelligence should be utilized in a basic sense of societal decency. I have only the problem when young children are being coerced by this scheme of instilling the fear of a vengeful deity who is going to burn them. This young ones still do not know the difference between myth from truth, when you do this you instill this psychological fear into the young minds and this i find to be abusive, disturbing and wicked. If a mind grows independently free of absurd indoctrinations and you introduce the adult to these ideas and they subscribe to. Then we would understand that they were in control of their decisions and not simply indoctrinating a little child into these ideas when they cannot even make decisions or question anything you teach them... [/b] 9 Likes 5 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Threatening Children With Hell.. by johnydon22(op): 8:22am On Sep 24, 2015*. Modified: 12:29pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
[b]Was looking outside just seating and looking at the activities outside. My eyes were drawn to a dog who was struggling to scratch the back of it's head but couldn't reach it, it even tried scratching the itch on the floor but from the way it continued struggling i was sure that didn't work either. Another dog that came along and within seconds it had used its teeth to scratch exactly the point of the itch on the other dog. I was touched by the act of kindness even a dog that we consider a lower animal in intellect could exhibit and what made me smile was: These dogs know nothing about a threat of punishment if they fail to be good but they help each other because they care about each others well being. And yet again; Barely 2 days ago i was seating just outside my yard in the evening and saw a little boy of maybe 5 years running. Turns out he didn't want to share his biscuit with another, his mother came out fuming with anger and yelled at him. "If you don't share your biscuits then you are a son of satan and you will go to hell where satan burns people forever" I was shocked at this, i was infuriated but i couldn't say anything. The little man didn't share the biscuit but anyone who looked could see the fear and guilt in his eyes, the fear that he was going to burn and the guilt that he was now the son of a satan. Yes the mother thought she was impacting a sense of morality on the young one which brings me to my question. Is it right to threaten Children with the image of hell? I remember telling a pastor who wanted to preach to me "You cannot tell me about morality until you and i have agreed on what we see to be moral. Because to me frightening children with burning in order to instill morality is abuse, disturbing and wicked" The idea of a hell is one that can be found in the world major religions even in far ancient religions like Egyptian religion. Where such concepts are used to ensure submission to the moral dictates of the religion. I was raised in a Christian home, i remember at a very young age right from the time i learnt how to talk we were moulded in the church, we were taught that bad people will burn forever and good ones will go to heaven. When i was still in primary 5 i got to kiss a girl for the first time, Childhood love and stuff i was 9. I know the fear and guilt that haunted me because of that one act, not just for few days but this guilt lingered on in my mind for years. The guilt that i have broken the commandment of God, the fear that i have increased my chances of going to hell, this mental image tortured my young mind, haunted me for almost more than 2years. Could you imagine a little boy living with such trauma instilled by psychological fear of an abstract concept, my parents never noticed i was passing through this because it ate me deep inside my mind and i know they thought they were doing good by trying to impact morality into my young mind with the use of a hell or heaven. They too are also victims of this indoctrination so i wouldn't blame them. But our young ones are coming up and i keep asking is it ok to frighten them into submitting to our idea of morality by using the threat of a hell and the promise of a heaven? I remember telling Urheme, " I was a victim of this cruel threat if i subject my kids to the same psychological abuse will simply be an act of idiocy on my part" Teach the young ones the very essence of goodness which stems from being good because they want to be good. Because it is good to be good, show them goodness and kindness. Teach the young ones to be nice to people because it is good to be nice to others. Hypatia of Alexandria said "To teach superstition as truth is horrifying, the mind of a child accepts them and only through great pain or perhaps tragedy will they be freed of it. To my young ones i am strong in my conviction that i will never teach them to fear anything, they will never grow up with fear of anything. Not the fear of me, not the fear of any deity or the fear of a mythical burning furnace. I can only teach them to always think but will never force or impose on them what i want them to think, they are the ones to decide and make their choices when they are old enough. I intend to raise them to "Be Good for goodness sake" i intend to teach them to place humans first before ideas. To look on the scientific method and consistent logic in other to make sense of the world. I intend to show them that only their actions towards others is what makes them either good or bad and nothing else. I intend to show them that their nature as humans is not fallen, broken or sinful but very beautiful, intelligent and strong. And i will never teach them myths as truth or fables as truths But rather i will teach them myth as myth and fables as fables and reality as reality. The young minds know nothing like hatred, intolerance, racism, sexism, indoctrination, bigotry, homophobia, prejudice, misogyny. They do not yet understand things like Love, tolerance, joy, compassion, acceptance, human decency, empathy, integrity, beauty and truth. nor disturbing emotions like fear, greed and jealousy. For the first and most important formative years of their lives they will only know what you teach them. So choose well. I know some might be asking will your children be atheists too? The answer is "NO" I am an agnostic atheist and i will neither raise my kids as ATHEISTS or theists because that will also be indoctrination of the young minds into my own ideology. No i will let their mind be free and for them to decide what they believe or what they don't when they are grown enough to do that. . I cannot decide for my Children, i will simply show them the world as it is and their decisions should run their lives not mine....[/b] 17 Likes 9 Shares
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