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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 6:01pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
Can you perceive anything without your mind? undecided
Brain is more like it because the mind is as a result of activities in the brain.
Every perception is rooted in the brain. . .

You can see (optical perception) because the images formed in your eyes are sent to the brain for interpretation.

You can feel because the stimuli is sent to the brain for interpretation. .

So every perception is a product of the brain. . .
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:51pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
undecided go straight to Ur point dude.
Actually you are the one that haven't gone straight to your point because there isn't any just like it is evident enough there isn't any collective purpose to every life
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:47pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
I don't want to give life any meaning, I don't want to see life from my own personal meaning, I want to see life for what it is.
If I give life a personal meaning that's different from every other person's meaning of life, then I am afraid life doesn't exist. Its all in our head.
You see looking at all your posts here one can easily discern you limit LIFE to humans. . .You forgot to take into consideration all the life forms that are alive jusy like you. . .Micro organisms, trees, insects, fishes and other animals. . . Until you can determine the purpose of these life forms then you can get near knowing what you want.

The bolded and its corresponding assertion is self refuting, for the fact that you mentioned OUR in denial of OUR life is a flawed self refuting attempt on logic already. .


Life is no different from spiritual demons, every religious persons see demons differently because they aren't real. Everyone sees life differently because life isn't real. #Simple_Logic#
This isn't logic. . . Perception, awareness. . . A tree is perceptive and aware of its sorroundings, an amoeba is perceptive and aware and so are you. . .Likening perception and awareness to the mind plays itself kills the the whole discourse in the dimension of logic. . . Demons et all are all products of the mind which in turn is a product of perception and awareness. . . Until you demonstrate how every form which falls into the scope of LIFE (take other life forms into consideration) are figments of the mind like spirits and stuff, you will always bring up flawed analogies
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:37pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
Life is everything I am aware of.
And this is your definition of life? Good. . . So give me example of how this definition relates to other forms of life
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:36pm On Jul 22, 2015
dalaman:
How old are you
Am in my twenties
and how long have you being an atheist?
Spent many years in agnosticism and blank aloofness on matters concerning God and belief. . .It took me a while to finally agree and accept i had no belief in any God. . that was last year.
How did your journey into atheism begin?
Like i said earlier, it began from agnosticism. . Many years of historical studies, theological and philosophical education, scientific inclination and independent reason and thinking on my part. . You would agree with me it is never easy for any of us shedding our used to be precious belief.
I just need a summary, no long details required. I like your mind, its very eloquent and you seem to be erudite when it comes to matters concerning religion.
Thanks bro
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:11pm On Jul 22, 2015
dalaman:
Can I ask you some questions here please?
Its a free country bro smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:10pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
If life is real, life should have specific values and meanings, if I can get to choose the meaning of life then it means life isn't real. Just like the god of war kratos, someone choose the personality, appearance, the voice of kratos for him because kratos isn't real.
Let me see if you even what exactly you are talking about..this should have been my first question to you

What is LIFE??
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:09pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
If life means anything I give it to mean, then it means life is a mirage, a fiction and not real.
Like i said, its all what YOU give yours. . . Now these things you give yours are yours and yours alone
Christianity Etc › Re: Thought Provoking Analysis On Non Traditional Religion by johnydon22(m): 4:36pm On Jul 22, 2015
Mojanity:
I'm glad there's still people with enough common sense to be able to think for themselves in Nigeria.
I am equally glad there are people who appreciate it
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 4:32pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
Hmmmm
Then it goes to say that non living matters have a more meaningful life than we the living matters. They don't have any feelings, any worries, any stress, they just exist for eternity, they dont get destroyed, they just get transformed and keep existing , and that's it, nothing disturbs them, nothing bothers them, they don't even have to do anything, and ultimately they don't look for any meaning. That's more meaningful
Like i said before, meaning to YOUR life is what YOU give it.

TO ME all these things you mentioned above that none living things lack.
Worries, stress, emotions, add others like pains, tears, joy, happiness, fear, sadness, smiles, laughter and death. .Are exactly what makes LIFE meaningful.

And remember when you die, you become a none living matter smiley
Politics › Re: The mothers of Ex President Olusegun Obasanjo's 21 children Revealed by johnydon22(m): 3:43pm On Jul 22, 2015
Oh my goodness!!! If this is true then OBJ's ancestors must really be proud of him
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 3:31pm On Jul 22, 2015
Idrismusty97:
There is no purpose of life, Just make it worthwhile since you have no where else to go after death. Make sure you die with a smile in your face...Looking back at all your accomplishment.
Yes bro, There is no stipulated purpose only the one you give yourself
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 3:29pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
Yes i know everyone would die, but does that make life more meaningful? undecided
Something that is not alive cannot die, so DEATH gives meaning to LIFE because they negate each other
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 3:23pm On Jul 22, 2015
onomeglo:
no need to wait joorh,he needs short cut na
Lol. . . You wicked ooo !!!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 3:21pm On Jul 22, 2015
Dapo777:
After all that, what next? undecided
You follow the characteristics of every living organism MR NIGER [size=20]D[/size] am sure you know the meaning of that from your biology class smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 3:14pm On Jul 22, 2015
onomeglo:
If everything seems meaningless to u,den u kill ursef,no time to waste mehn wink
Lol. . . Life is too short to include suicide. . .Just wait a little while you will soon die. . Op should just hang around for a while wink
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life, As An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 3:09pm On Jul 22, 2015
[b] Purpose of anything is subjective to the individual. . . Purpose of life is an individual matter and your purpose in life is exactly what you make it out OR want it to be.

Some people determine their purpose in life is to chase after the shadow of paradise in an afterlife, therefore paying little mind to this one life that we all are sure is real.

As an agnostic atheist i have many purpose independent of external influence but mine and chasing the fantasy of afterlife is not one of them for me.
Neglecting the earth for paradise is like neglecting substance for shadow.

My purpose in life all revolves around Me, family, friends, Kids, Earth, and enjoying my life the much i can.
Ensuring i make the most out the one life i have.

A life filled with Love, charity, friendship, music, laughter, adventure, intellectual satisfaction, peace, study, tears, forgiveness, happiness, risk, pains, JOY. . . . What more can i ask of myself. . .

My purpose is to be happy, and the time to be happy is now, where to be happy is here, where we are (planet earth) and how to be happy is to make others happy
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why? by johnydon22(m): 11:27am On Jul 22, 2015
ClassicQueen:
Even the days i don't think about them, i still see them in my dreams. I hardly think about them... The last time i saw her was 1 year and 6 Months...
Thanks
Oh you were a year and 6months the last time you saw her, how then did you know how she looked like to determine she is the one you see in your dream?
Christianity Etc › Re: Thought Provoking Analysis On Non Traditional Religion by johnydon22(m): 10:38am On Jul 22, 2015
ghananotnaija:
You'll be responsible for your sins unless you accept Christ and have them forgiven. You'll rot in hell for your sins otherwise. Stop worshipping false idols, aka traditional deities. They're all man-made. They didn't help our ancestors when the Europeans came, and certainly won't help you in the future. Imagine gods made of wood and stone...
Your belief in anything does not make you a good person, your behaviour does.

You do not need forgiveness from any deity or God, you only need forgiveness from people you offended.

We all only need forgiveness from each and every one of us...no third party
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus A Descendant Of David? by johnydon22(m): 10:07am On Jul 22, 2015
frosbel:
I have not told you my position.

Please do not derail from the topic.

wink
I will like to know your position so as to be sure the basis in which you stand to determine the absurdities. . . Tell me while we wait for others to bring on their argument in defence of Jesus descent
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Take A Personal Stance On Doctrinal Matters by johnydon22(m): 10:02am On Jul 22, 2015
frosbel:
Well said !

But my question to the religious is this : can one take a contrary position to the pastor of a church and still be correct or is the church/pastor the final authority on all doctrinal matters ?
Well I think this is exactly why christianity boast of the most sects in one religion. . . 41,000 distinct sects and varying doctrines. . . . . . . Everyone claiming they have the superior understanding and God lead doctrine but glaringly one can easily see that each individual's interpretation and spirit filled doctrines are always in coincide with their own reason
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus A Descendant Of David? by johnydon22(m): 9:55am On Jul 22, 2015
frosbel:
no comment.

grin
You know you cannot accuse him of being gullible for believeing something that defiles reason, logic as a virgin getting pregnant (funny one tho) and on the other hand you believe another of the absursity like someone walked on water and died and ressurrected three days later. . . That too is absurd and defiles reason and logic. . . So it would be very hypocritic if you believe them too and have the guts to accuse others..wink
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus A Descendant Of David? by johnydon22(m): 9:49am On Jul 22, 2015
frosbel:
How can you believe in something which goes against all logic and reason ?

Jesus had a dad and mum, period. Anything else is fallacy, fiction, a fairly tale and wishful thinking !
Do you believe Jesus walked on water and also ressurrected after being killed too?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Take A Personal Stance On Doctrinal Matters by johnydon22(m): 9:37am On Jul 22, 2015
frosbel:
But what if what I heard from God is different to what you heard and we then go off on two different tangents with respect to a particular doctrine , how do we know which one is the right one ?
If you both hear different opposing things from one God.

It is either that God is confused, or no God said anything at all and you both only listened and made conclusions that are in coincide with your reason, emotion and sentimental tilt
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus A Descendant Of David? by johnydon22(m): 9:28am On Jul 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
if Joseph was the biological father of Jesus it mean the curse of jaconiah is on him. Legal right mean he bypass the curse, all this , God plan it from the beginning, its either you are an atheist or not , you cannot believe in half and reject the rest, lukewarm christian.
Lol malvisguy don't get touchy and emotional. . . try and listen to what he is saying, he is very correct.

Descent is by biological parenting not adoptive. . . . If Jesus wasn't the biological son of Joseph then he is not a descendant of David but only an adopted son of Joseph. . . You cannot argue that an adopted son is the legitimate descendant of someone..
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus A Descendant Of David? by johnydon22(m): 8:42am On Jul 22, 2015
McSterling:
Seems more like it. Take away the virgin birth and he could well be a descendant of David.
The fables said he was born of a virgin, nobody has the right to take away the virgin birth. . . if you do it's better you disbelieve the whole story frosbel
Christianity Etc › Re: If Gossip Magazines Existed In Biblical Times by johnydon22(m): 10:39pm On Jul 21, 2015
cold:
True story grin
My homie jonah chilled in the belly of a FISH for 3 days ....puhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i don die!!! People deh believe things ooo cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: If Gossip Magazines Existed In Biblical Times by johnydon22(m): 10:37pm On Jul 21, 2015
Hahahahahaha Epic!!! "God got me pregnant" who exactly was supposed to believe that stunt mehn!!! grin
Politics › Re: What Igbos Would Do Differently In Republic Of Biafra by johnydon22(m): 7:26pm On Jul 21, 2015
theAtheist101:
Yes, they pay the "foreigners price" in those countries. Now it would even aggravate to a "bitter" host.

My advise to you lot: get something better to with your lives rather than waste your time on the Internet fighting a cause no cares about. Or better still, go and act I'm the real world to free your people from this "Zoo".

Cc: Johnnydon22
I am not pro biafra. . . search for my thread "The irony and reality of one Nigeria" i am of the One Nigeria Opinion.

I just find the rate people concern themselves with the biafra issue that supposed to be igbo problem very hypocritic. . You say they should get something better doing with their lives, why don't you leave them to it and also get on with yours like you don't care, unless you do
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Take A Personal Stance On Doctrinal Matters by johnydon22(m): 7:20pm On Jul 21, 2015
If you believe what you like in your gospels and scriptures and reject the ones you don't like. . . its not the gospels/scriptures you believe but yourself
Politics › Re: The Irony And Reality Of One Nigeria (an Opinion) by johnydon22(op): 4:01pm On Jul 21, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
this is nice : lalasticlala
Lets hope lalasticlala or ishilove or other mods reads it and do the needful wink
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is God Going To Do After The Last Judgment? by johnydon22(m): 3:09pm On Jul 21, 2015
krattoss:
i am a God
Yes you are, a punny one for that matter

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