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Thoniameek:Everything in existence proves the existence of the material universe and not an immaterial entity you claim exist outside the universe yet you have a relationship with..... Following your analogy of using material universe as proof of your imaginative concept i can also assert the material universe and you yourself is proof of the diamond puppy that exist outside the universe With that aside,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,More like laughing at your own flawed and childish analogy and your inability to come up with a better one |
PastorAIO:exactly and this shows brother is everybody... because the samaritan and the man were not brothers in the lord, they were not christians or even from the same country... |
An2elect2:By asserting you Jesus was not referring to everybody you already cherry picked and have given that verse your own meaning because we all know there was no Christianity then just the jewish society. By asserting he was addressing you, you already cherry picked and added your own meaning to a clear text.....lolzzz...funny |
Thoniameek:This is a rather ridiculous excuse. If you fall in love with someone, Oh yes only you know how that person makes you feel but when asked proof of that person's existence you can always bring her or him for people to see, people don't necessarily need to fall in love with that person to know they exist.... when asked to provide proof for the girl you love and you resort to "its a personal experience" instead of providing proof one can rightly conclude you are in love with an imaginative concept that exists only in your head So you claim to be in love or in relationship with the creator of the universe yet you cannot provide proof of this entity then, its all clear you are in love with an imaginative concept which is in your head. So claiming love for an unsubstantiated concept places you in the dimension of a mental Stockholm's syndrome towards that imaginative concept |
An2elect2:Lmao brother in the lord...Maybe his immediate brother ceases to be his brother when he becomes an unbeliever... typical example of religious discrimination, division and all round intolerance. . . NEW LIVING TRANSLATION uses the word "Another" so we all know what brother means here |
Demigods:The same bible says the contrary here Matthew5:22 And I say unto you, whoever call his brother a fool is in danger of hell fire. So going by this you are very much going to hell by using the bible to refer to others as fools. And again belief in a deity does not equate being moral or doing abominable things so your bible was very drunk for saying that. What i find even more atrocious and evil is to subject little children to psychological threats and abuse of a mythical hell... |
Demigods:Behind everything there is an intelligence and this means that that entity must also require an intelligence to make it which in turn must also require another higher intelligence and so it spans into a chain of infinite regress.. And please stop comparing inanimate things like houses and cars to organic entities like stars and planet which has been observed first hand to form on their own due to chaotic activities within the surroundings |
The same you asserted Demigods:Then you turn around to lay claims of knowledge of things you claim are unknowable... here But I tell you this day mark/believe my word. Satan and Christ, Lord God Jehovah and the holy spirit exist.This very claim of knowledge of things you claim are unknowable is a self contradicting as well as self refuting assertion. By claiming you know it shows that they are knowable therefore are not unknown like you claimed above but if they are unknown there is no way you can know at all because a little knowledge of a concept said to be unknown kills the very concept of its unknowability intoto... |
Demigods:Exactly the point and since there is no way something above your perception can be known why then assume it up? There is not even a way to know something is beyond your perception unless you assume there is We cannot know if a flying black unicorn exist outside the universe, there is absolutely no reason to assume up one.... and any concept of the unicorn we come up with is surely our assumptions So how then did the religionist assume up their concept of god and gods and expect people to believe it? |
starlingslimnet:In physics, time is a quantum dimension. Time and speed are relative. . . Its a simple beautiful scientific discovery fully represented in the small but complex mathematical equation E=MC2 ....even they can't tell you the storehouse of snow.If they can't explain a little thing as this then they are nincompoops.And it takes a very big intellectually deranged individual to think that there is a house in the sky where snow is stored. Snows form in an atmosphere where the temperature drops to or below 0°C and the crystalline droplet accumulates water droplets from the atmosphere before dropping and hitting the ground. You still holding on to the ancient belief that snow has a store house in the sky, actually you are completely disgrace the very intellect of 21st century homo sapiens. . . Tell us now who the fool is |
frank317:Seriously i feel like hitting my own head on the wall imagining someone exhibiting such idiotic mentally derange-like gullibility.. My fore-head have just gone all red from slapping it hard out of utter bewilderment at the ludicrous idiotic mumucity .... its quite sad tho how deranged belief can make some people appear |
italo:We are talking about SCIENCE (Natural philosophy so as not to confuse the young ones like you) We are not talking about scientific methods. Stop disgracing yourself and degrading the intellect of catholics by not knowing the difference between SCIENCE and scientific methods let alone modern scientific method... |
italo:Hahahahaha so you showed us where the atheist scripture stipulated that thou shall commit crime. . ? ![]() The thing is you can never attribute an individual crime to atheism because atheism is not a doctrine or religion just a state of unbelief.. This is like saying: "John terry slept with someone's wife, therefore that action is the evil of football" You don't even know how silly you sound I will tell any Christian who justifies his sin as "right" that he is a heretic. I haven't seen a pedophile priest claim to be right yet.Nobody have accused the church of being pedophiliac because it is just the actions of a few.. And as you know atheism is not a doctrinal position that has any rule.. It simply is "you dont believe in deities then the label for you is atheist." so any action perpetrated by an atheist is sorely an individual action and has nothing to do with the position of unbelief or belief. Simple. Christianity teaches the contrary.[b][i].. It takes a pedophile to commit pedophilia. . Yes, those Atheists kill in the name of Atheism...on their own.Oh not this childish defence again.. Alright then show us an atheist creed or doctrine followed by atheist to justify or lay basis to their actions, just like i can show you the bible commandments ![]() If you cant then it only shows actions of people has nothing to do with their position of unbelief because there are no doctrines or law in unbelief |
italo:[b]And your copy and pastes still proves you wrong all the time... Scientific Method is not Science in general. . . Roger Bacon played an important role in the development of MODERN scientific METHOD but there were still ancient scientific methods in play before then. Observation, experimentation were all part of the ancient Scientific method which still are maintained in this modern scientific method. When you pick up a pythgoras theorem just know that pythagoras helped develop mathematics but was not the inventor of mathematics or even the theorem itself So boy pick up a book and stop disgracing yourself by asserting the church invented science when science (Natural philosophy) predates it by thousands of years. By the way i like the fact you agree Bacon was a philosopher further buttress my point and teachings to you in the other thread that both theology( religion) and science (Natural philosophy) are all off shoots of the noble art of Philosophy ![]() You really need to step up your game and study more.. i recommend you go to a seminary it will do you a lot of good study wise ... lol [/b] |
italo:And by so doing you stereotyped by attributing individual and political actions to a whole. . . . Nambla movement is a movement that involves both theist and atheist, these are individual ideological and orientation and has nothing to do with belief or unbelief in a deity... Even the nambla movement claimed to recruit through the catholic church. Several catholic priests molest young boys yet the church extinguishes and shields them. . . Stop attributing the Nambla movement which is made up of both theist and atheist to the unbelief tilt. You have been shown how government deals with constitutional charter which in turn is the politics of a state.. the moment a Christian tells you "it is right for me to molest a child," he has begun to chart his way out of Christianity. That is heresy!You have to tell that to the christian members of Nambla and also to the pedophile priests that molest young boys in the sacristy all over the globe. Simple the actions of these few does not equate Christianity and so it will wrong to attribute the actions of these individuals to Christianity. Atheism is not a religion or doctrine, its just a position of unbelief. . . So people who act of their orientation or ideologies in the state of unbelief do so at their own accord .. |
italo:Hahahahaha sorry bob, you have no case... Go grab a book and read what government is |
italo:And you keep showing you are not well at all.. "They helped developed the modern idea of scientific method not SCIENCE in essense" We are talking about SCIENCE not scientific method... There is an obvious distinction between SCIENCE and SCIENTIFIC METHODS. scientific methods are just methods of scientific application of which we have many! Seems Wikipedia english confuses you a lot.... Even more so many scientific methods have been in play since the ancient times.. During the ancient times egypt had a school "The egyptian mystery school" which formulated most of the scientific knowledge you have now Biology, Physics, Alchemy, Mathematics, Astrology, even medical sciences and others. And this school produced the likes Imhotep, Pythagoras even plato.... Stop confusing yourself with the linguistic addition of the word science with the concept of SCIENCE or should should i now say NATURAL PHILOSOPHY so you don't keep confusing yourself |
italo:Nope just like gay law it is just a constitutional amendment by the government and implemented by the government... You can never separate the actions of a state out of government... |
youngibeh:Amen, its very obvious who needs help |
italo:Lol boy the fact remains that both the Soviet and Albania state atheism were all constitutional charters. The constitution outlawed religious activities and so what ever activity and implementations that followed were sorely a political and constitutional action.. Just like the Nigerian constitution outlawed gayism That is politics |
youngibeh:What type of thing is this, is this the type of thing religion has turned our people into... For crying out loud i have shown you this is a poorly worked photo edit like seen in the previous thread
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youngibeh:Please for the sake or what ever you think you believe stop being this gullible, it sells you off bad, just look up to my first post on this thread, its enough to make you abandon this thread and have a rethink next time before believing some nonsensical brouhaha let alone bringing it to a public forum |
youngibeh:Just take a good look at your life and the type of gullibility you exhibit in public |
And this is the type of idiotic superstitious and stupendous gullibility Christians would have us join them in? ![]() This is the type of nonsense that makes some people equate belief and superstition to mental derangement and am starting to see some points in their resolve. This is the same poorly worked edited photo attributed an angel in a similar stupid thread like that few days ago https://www.nairaland.com/2472642/amazing-angel-found-childrens-end#36220131 This is the type of thing that makes people ashamed of belief and ludicrous religious superstition
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adsonstone:Have decided to leave the kid to his delusional self deceptive convictions. . . We have taught him enough, i suggest you guys steer this thread back to its original path and forget the catholic trolling derailment |
freecocoa:He was mentioning Albania and soviet atheistic states forgetting that it was a constitutional charter which makes it political... That the government stood against open theistic activities was because it was anti-constitutional to them and any action that goes against the constitution is a crime against the state. All he showed were just political positions of a state |
freecocoa:You only get wikipedia copy and paste. . . Lol |
italo:As simple as it gets. Stalin was an atheist (individual position) his government is atheistic (Political position) And stalins actions were very evil and barbaric and bad...any sane human being would know that. All the actions of stalin all boils down to his individual political ideologies.... Nigeria ban of gay rights is not theistic but political.... Hitler was a catholic and he even believed his holocaust on the jews was a cause for God, but this doesn't make his actions a catholic action.. It was a political position. . So again you gotta learn the difference between political actions, individual actions and collective actions of a group. . . Stop the fallacy of stereotyping. |
italo:Seriously you need help... you lack adequate comprehension of simple english even from your source wikipedia. SCIENCE was defined as a way of pursuing knowledge" just like seen below and ways of pursuing knowledge all dates back to ancient world which carefully formulated the disciplines we now know as scientific which is Physics, biology, alchemy, mathematics, astrology and many more See Wikipedia on Science:Let me now show you that you don't understand simple english... Somehow you always neglect the word enlarged... Method of pursuing knowledge which modern linguistic refers to as SCIENCE in modern tongue stretches back to ancient sumer and Egypt and even when the earliest hominide walked the earth. In the 17th and 18th centuries scientists increasingly sought to formulate knowledge in terms of laws of nature. Over the course of the 19th century, the word "science" became increasingly associated with the scientific method itself, as a disciplined way to study the natural world, [b]including physics, chemistry, geology and biology. It is in the 19th century also that the term scientist began to be applied to those who sought knowledge and understanding of nature.[i]And this shows the word "SCIENCE" was just a recent add to English linguistic, you practically confuse addition of the word science to the concept of science itself which was defined above " way of pursuing knowledge" And the bolded science disciplines wikipedia mentioned here are all disciplines formulated in ancient world right through egypt which the ancient know as Natural Philosophy because the word science has not emerged. . . Natural philosophy as science was referred back then remains the same scientific studies you have now only the lingual representation differs of which you naively think lingual addition equate the formulation of the concept. How can someone with brain claim scientific knowledge was formulated by the church yet knows fully well that the scientific disciplines we have physics, maths, bio etc all predates the emergence of the church with thousands of years... THAT was practically invented by the Catholic Church...especially through a clergyman called Roger Bacon.And this just shows the church invented a practically dead brain in you when you cannot distinguish the difference between linguist representation and the concept. |
italo:And this just proved what i was saying... The soviet union state atheism was a political position...Political ideologies has nothing to do others. . . You are still stereotyping atheism with the political ideology of Stalin. And you still arguing over that obvious fact ![]() |
italo:[b][i[You know for me to list out the atrocities committed by the church and popes through out history ranging from the killing of the knight templars and countess others won't clear the fact that the action of an individual molesting a child is bad. Those atheist molesting kids all do so as their own individual action and it has nothing to do with atheists because atheism is not doctrine or dogma or religion, just a name labeled to people who lack belief in Gods. Their actions are as bad as that of the catholic priests who do same in the sacristy with little altar boys all over the world of which airs in the news everyday. But the actions of these priests are all actions of individuals and have nothing to do with other catholics or catholicism so too does the action of one atheist the sole doing of that atheist and has nothing to do with concept of atheism. Learn to attribute individual behaviours on the individual and stop stereotyping these half baked childish fallacies. [/i][/b] |
freecocoa:He is still a kid in reason, i wonder why he just derailed the thread and steered it into catholic and non-catholic bashes when the Op was not even about catholicsm but Christianity and religion in general |
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.... its quite sad tho how deranged belief can make some people appear



