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Christianity Etc › Re: I Am Beginning To Feel Agnostic Recently by johnydon22(m): 5:07pm On Jul 28, 2015
Thoniameek:
You and I and everything you know,see and do is prove of the existence of the God that am in love with
Everything in existence proves the existence of the material universe and not an immaterial entity you claim exist outside the universe yet you have a relationship with..... Following your analogy of using material universe as proof of your imaginative concept i can also assert the material universe and you yourself is proof of the diamond puppy that exist outside the universe
With that aside,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I'm just gonna laugh at every other thing you wrote
More like laughing at your own flawed and childish analogy and your inability to come up with a better one smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m): 5:02pm On Jul 28, 2015
PastorAIO:
Jesus has already defined what he means by 'brother' or even 'neighbour'. His usage of such terms are explained in the Parable of the Good Samaritan.
exactly and this shows brother is everybody... because the samaritan and the man were not brothers in the lord, they were not christians or even from the same country...
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m): 4:55pm On Jul 28, 2015
An2elect2:
It is good you know that Christianity tolerates no poo from any one and yea it is very very discriminatory.

My brothers and sisters in Christ who are in far away countries are of much more importance and more valuable to me than my biological ones here with me. That is how discriminatory, our acceptance of people is.

We don't cherry pick, we take the bible in its whole context. Jesus was not referring to just anybody.
By asserting you Jesus was not referring to everybody you already cherry picked and have given that verse your own meaning because we all know there was no Christianity then just the jewish society.

By asserting he was addressing you, you already cherry picked and added your own meaning to a clear text.....lolzzz...funny
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am Beginning To Feel Agnostic Recently by johnydon22(m): 4:45pm On Jul 28, 2015
Thoniameek:
Davien, it's personal because it's a relationship

If you fell in love today to this girl only you know how she makes you feel, and only someone who has been in love before can understand with you

And if you and I loved one woman at different times, I'm pretty sure we won't have the same experience with her despite the fact that she never changed

So it applies to God. He's the same, but us humans are different. So, we all get different personal experience that's unexplainable just like being in love, that can only be shown by actions
This is a rather ridiculous excuse.

If you fall in love with someone, Oh yes only you know how that person makes you feel but when asked proof of that person's existence you can always bring her or him for people to see, people don't necessarily need to fall in love with that person to know they exist.... when asked to provide proof for the girl you love and you resort to "its a personal experience" instead of providing proof one can rightly conclude you are in love with an imaginative concept that exists only in your head

So you claim to be in love or in relationship with the creator of the universe yet you cannot provide proof of this entity then, its all clear you are in love with an imaginative concept which is in your head.
So claiming love for an unsubstantiated concept places you in the dimension of a mental Stockholm's syndrome towards that imaginative concept
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m): 4:36pm On Jul 28, 2015
An2elect2:
call his brother a fool.....are you his brother in the Lord? no
Lmao brother in the lord...Maybe his immediate brother ceases to be his brother when he becomes an unbeliever... typical example of religious discrimination, division and all round intolerance. . . NEW LIVING TRANSLATION uses the word "Another" so we all know what brother means here
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m): 4:27pm On Jul 28, 2015
Demigods:
Psalm 53 verse 1 says;
"The [empty-headed] fool has said in his heart. There is no God. Corrupt and
evil are they, and doing abominable iniquity; there is none who does good."
The same bible says the contrary here

Matthew5:22
And I say unto you, whoever call his brother a fool is in
danger of hell fire.

So going by this you are very much going to hell by using the bible to refer to others as fools. And again belief in a deity does not equate being moral or doing abominable things so your bible was very drunk for saying that.

What i find even more atrocious and evil is to subject little children to psychological threats and abuse of a mythical hell...
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m): 4:09pm On Jul 28, 2015
Demigods:
Because it actually exist?
Behind everything there is an intelligence, did cars and luxury houses u see, gadgets and other things did they form on their own?
Someone created them. We should be careful with our ways
Behind everything there is an intelligence and this means that that entity must also require an intelligence to make it which in turn must also require another higher intelligence and so it spans into a chain of infinite regress..

And please stop comparing inanimate things like houses and cars to organic entities like stars and planet which has been observed first hand to form on their own due to chaotic activities within the surroundings
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m): 4:04pm On Jul 28, 2015
The same you asserted
Demigods:
You cannot comprehend that which is unknown to you/us.
Then you turn around to lay claims of knowledge of things you claim are unknowable... here
But I tell you this day mark/believe my word. Satan and Christ, Lord God Jehovah and the holy spirit exist.
They have shown me their signs and wonder and delivered me from death when I was at the point of it. I will not just come out and preach about what hasn't work for me, I tell you brethen, hold steadfast to the Lord God, do is he reveals himself. If you seek to know the truth and know him better he will reveal, seek his face, leave the rest to him.
Like me I do not worry over such things I cannot comprehend. As long as he protects me and I have basic need, what more do one need?
This very claim of knowledge of things you claim are unknowable is a self contradicting as well as self refuting assertion.

By claiming you know it shows that they are knowable therefore are not unknown like you claimed above but if they are unknown there is no way you can know at all because a little knowledge of a concept said to be unknown kills the very concept of its unknowability intoto...
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m):
Demigods:
You cannot comprehend that which is unknown to you/us.
Exactly the point and since there is no way something above your perception can be known why then assume it up? There is not even a way to know something is beyond your perception unless you assume there is

We cannot know if a flying black unicorn exist outside the universe, there is absolutely no reason to assume up one.... and any concept of the unicorn we come up with is surely our assumptions

So how then did the religionist assume up their concept of god and gods and expect people to believe it?
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by johnydon22(m):
starlingslimnet:
Even no scientists can explain why time don't wait for people
In physics, time is a quantum dimension.
Time and speed are relative. . . Its a simple beautiful scientific discovery fully represented in the small but complex mathematical equation E=MC2

....even they can't tell you the storehouse of snow.If they can't explain a little thing as this then they are nincompoops.
Only a fool says there is no God.
And it takes a very big intellectually deranged individual to think that there is a house in the sky where snow is stored.

Snows form in an atmosphere where the temperature drops to or below 0°C and the crystalline droplet accumulates water droplets from the atmosphere before dropping and hitting the ground.

You still holding on to the ancient belief that snow has a store house in the sky, actually you are completely disgrace the very intellect of 21st century homo sapiens. . . Tell us now who the fool is
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Agbanje Spirit Was Snap By My Pastor During Deliverance Service by johnydon22(m): 3:43pm On Jul 28, 2015
frank317:
loooool!!! @johnny... I understand how u feel. lol grin grin grin

i feel like hitting his head on a wall just to make him come out of his delusion. but he seems lost forever. and he says he s working... i pity the organization that is employing such retards.

its just frustrating when seemingly right thinking people proudly adhere to foolishness.
Seriously i feel like hitting my own head on the wall imagining someone exhibiting such idiotic mentally derange-like gullibility..

My fore-head have just gone all red from slapping it hard out of utter bewilderment at the ludicrous idiotic mumucity cheesy .... its quite sad tho how deranged belief can make some people appear embarassed
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 3:30pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Science in the modern sense of the word, refers mainly to the Scientific method that Roger Bacon developed.
We are talking about SCIENCE (Natural philosophy so as not to confuse the young ones like you) We are not talking about scientific methods.


Stop disgracing yourself and degrading the intellect of catholics by not knowing the difference between SCIENCE and scientific methods let alone modern scientific method...
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 3:28pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
I didn't stereotype. I gave irrefutable examples of Atheists justifying their crimes...some in the name of Atheism.
Hahahahaha so you showed us where the atheist scripture stipulated that thou shall commit crime. . ? wink

The thing is you can never attribute an individual crime to atheism because atheism is not a doctrine or religion just a state of unbelief.. This is like saying: "John terry slept with someone's wife, therefore that action is the evil of football" You don't even know how silly you sound


I will tell any Christian who justifies his sin as "right" that he is a heretic. I haven't seen a pedophile priest claim to be right yet.
Nobody have accused the church of being pedophiliac because it is just the actions of a few.. And as you know atheism is not a doctrinal position that has any rule..

It simply is "you dont believe in deities then the label for you is atheist." so any action perpetrated by an atheist is sorely an individual action and has nothing to do with the position of unbelief or belief.

Simple. Christianity teaches the contrary.
[b][i]..
It takes a pedophile to commit pedophilia. .


Yes, those Atheists kill in the name of Atheism...on their own.
Oh not this childish defence again..

Alright then show us an atheist creed or doctrine followed by atheist to justify or lay basis to their actions, just like i can show you the bible commandments cool

If you cant then it only shows actions of people has nothing to do with their position of unbelief because there are no doctrines or law in unbelief
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 3:17pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Science in the modern sense of the word, refers mainly to the Scientific method that Roger Bacon developed.

The real breakthrough in the development of the scientific method, however, came from a man named Roger Bacon. Roger Bacon (1214-1294) was an English philosopher often considered the 'Father of the Scientific Method'. Bacon's contribution to the development of the scientific method stems from his emphasis on experimentation. Bacon suggested scientific truth could be found out through the cycle of observation, hypothesis, experimentation, and independent verification.


http://study.com/academy/lesson/bacon-descartes-the-scientific-method.html

This one is not
[b]And your copy and pastes still proves you wrong all the time... Scientific Method is not Science in general. . .

Roger Bacon played an important role in the development of MODERN scientific METHOD but there were still ancient scientific methods in play before then.

Observation, experimentation were all part of the ancient Scientific method which still are maintained in this modern scientific method.

When you pick up a pythgoras theorem just know that pythagoras helped develop mathematics but was not the inventor of mathematics or even the theorem itself

So boy pick up a book and stop disgracing yourself by asserting the church invented science when science (Natural philosophy) predates it by thousands of years.

By the way i like the fact you agree Bacon was a philosopher further buttress my point and teachings to you in the other thread that both theology( religion) and science (Natural philosophy) are all off shoots of the noble art of Philosophy smiley

You really need to step up your game and study more.. i recommend you go to a seminary it will do you a lot of good study wise ... lol
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 3:03pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
My initial statement was that Atheists kill and molest children and justify it...and I have given clear examples of Nambla and Atheistic Govt...there are many more examples.
And by so doing you stereotyped by attributing individual and political actions to a whole. . . . Nambla movement is a movement that involves both theist and atheist, these are individual ideological and orientation and has nothing to do with belief or unbelief in a deity... Even the nambla movement claimed to recruit through the catholic church.

Several catholic priests molest young boys yet the church extinguishes and shields them. . . Stop attributing the Nambla movement which is made up of both theist and atheist to the unbelief tilt.

You have been shown how government deals with constitutional charter which in turn is the politics of a state..


the moment a Christian tells you "it is right for me to molest a child," he has begun to chart his way out of Christianity. That is heresy!
You have to tell that to the christian members of Nambla and also to the pedophile priests that molest young boys in the sacristy all over the globe.

Simple the actions of these few does not equate Christianity and so it will wrong to attribute the actions of these individuals to Christianity.

Atheism is not a religion or doctrine, its just a position of unbelief. . . So people who act of their orientation or ideologies in the state of unbelief do so at their own accord ..
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 2:38pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
An Atheistic constitutional amendment done and implemented by an Atheistic Govt run by Atheists...to kill in the name of Atheism.
Hahahahaha sorry bob, you have no case... Go grab a book and read what government is smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 2:35pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:

During the Middle Ages, the Church founded Europe's first universities, producing scholars like Robert Grosseteste, Albert the Great, Roger Bacon and Thomas Aquinas, who helped establish scientific method
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science

Keep dancing around.
And you keep showing you are not well at all..

"They helped developed the modern idea of scientific method not SCIENCE in essense"

We are talking about SCIENCE not scientific method... There is an obvious distinction between SCIENCE and SCIENTIFIC METHODS. scientific methods are just methods of scientific application of which we have many!

Seems Wikipedia english confuses you a lot.... Even more so many scientific methods have been in play since the ancient times..

During the ancient times egypt had a school "The egyptian mystery school" which formulated most of the scientific knowledge you have now Biology, Physics, Alchemy, Mathematics, Astrology, even medical sciences and others. And this school produced the likes Imhotep, Pythagoras even plato....

Stop confusing yourself with the linguistic addition of the word science with the concept of SCIENCE or should should i now say NATURAL PHILOSOPHY so you don't keep confusing yourself
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 2:28pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Atheistic constitutions drafted by Atheists that killed millions in the name of Atheism.
Nope just like gay law it is just a constitutional amendment by the government and implemented by the government... You can never separate the actions of a state out of government... cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Agbanje Spirit Was Snap By My Pastor During Deliverance Service by johnydon22(m): 2:10pm On Jul 28, 2015
youngibeh:
MAY GOD HELP YOU ALL.
Amen, its very obvious who needs help
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 2:06pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Stalin killed millions to further the Atheistic agenda.

So whether the ideology is individual or political or whatever, it was an Atheistic ideology...just like that of Albania.
Lol boy the fact remains that both the Soviet and Albania state atheism were all constitutional charters.

The constitution outlawed religious activities and so what ever activity and implementations that followed were sorely a political and constitutional action..
Just like the Nigerian constitution outlawed gayism

That is politics cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Agbanje Spirit Was Snap By My Pastor During Deliverance Service by johnydon22(m): 1:57pm On Jul 28, 2015
youngibeh:
BY THE GRACE OF GOD AM NOT SAYING WHAT I DID NOT SEE. THIS HAPPENED ON THURSDAY NIGHT IN MY CHURCH. GOD ALSO IS A WITNESS IF AM LYING. YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE ME
What type of thing is this, is this the type of thing religion has turned our people into...

For crying out loud i have shown you this is a poorly worked photo edit like seen in the previous thread

Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Agbanje Spirit Was Snap By My Pastor During Deliverance Service by johnydon22(m): 1:52pm On Jul 28, 2015
youngibeh:
MY BROTHER PLEASE DO NOT TAKE ME FOR A FOOL. AM A GUY WITH GOOD JOB AND ONLY TRY TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT I SAW MY SELF. YOU MUST NOT BELIEVE ME BUT IF AM WRONG I BELIEVE GOD SHOULD DO WHATEVER HE DEEM FIT TO ME.

THANK YOU
Please for the sake or what ever you think you believe stop being this gullible, it sells you off bad, just look up to my first post on this thread, its enough to make you abandon this thread and have a rethink next time before believing some nonsensical brouhaha let alone bringing it to a public forum
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Agbanje Spirit Was Snap By My Pastor During Deliverance Service by johnydon22(m): 1:46pm On Jul 28, 2015
youngibeh:
HABA! you think i can just lie just to feel good. i did not mention the name of the church to avoid your type thinking am advertizing my church. to me this is a mystery i have never seen before.

PLEASE LEARN TO BELIEVE PEOPLE FOR ONCE.
Just take a good look at your life and the type of gullibility you exhibit in public
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Agbanje Spirit Was Snap By My Pastor During Deliverance Service by johnydon22(m): 1:44pm On Jul 28, 2015
And this is the type of idiotic superstitious and stupendous gullibility Christians would have us join them in? undecided

This is the type of nonsense that makes some people equate belief and superstition to mental derangement and am starting to see some points in their resolve.

This is the same poorly worked edited photo attributed an angel in a similar stupid thread like that few days ago https://www.nairaland.com/2472642/amazing-angel-found-childrens-end#36220131

This is the type of thing that makes people ashamed of belief and ludicrous religious superstition

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 1:11pm On Jul 28, 2015
adsonstone:
Shameless and ignorant catholic liar!

I never said scientific method started in the 17th century...it is your assumption from your poor ignorant reasoning. I quoted wikipedia that says



Nowhere did myself or wikipedia say that 'scientific methods or science 'started' or was 'invented' in the 17th century by Bacon.

You were the one who said that...it further shows you to be an adult catholic liar!



Wikipedia calls you a liar!

"Several scientific methods thus emerged from the medieval Muslim world by the early 11th century, all of which emphasized experimentation as well as
quantification to varying degrees."

- Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_scientific_method
Have decided to leave the kid to his delusional self deceptive convictions. . . We have taught him enough, i suggest you guys steer this thread back to its original path and forget the catholic trolling derailment
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 1:00pm On Jul 28, 2015
freecocoa:
As in eh, someone that can't make use of his reasoning abilities without spamming the whole place with copy and paste from wiki expects to be taken seriously? And I thought I've seen it all, this dude is ready to die in ignorance for the catholic church.grin
He was mentioning Albania and soviet atheistic states forgetting that it was a constitutional charter which makes it political...

That the government stood against open theistic activities was because it was anti-constitutional to them and any action that goes against the constitution is a crime against the state.

All he showed were just political positions of a state
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 12:49pm On Jul 28, 2015
freecocoa:
Arguing with this Italo is a waste of time and mb.
You only get wikipedia copy and paste. . . Lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 12:41pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
The man was an Atheist, his Govt was Atheistic, he/his govt killed millions to suppress religion and advance atheism in the country and beyond...and he/his govt justified the killings.

End of story.
As simple as it gets.

Stalin was an atheist (individual position) his government is atheistic (Political position) And stalins actions were very evil and barbaric and bad...any sane human being would know that.

All the actions of stalin all boils down to his individual political ideologies.... Nigeria ban of gay rights is not theistic but political....

Hitler was a catholic and he even believed his holocaust on the jews was a cause for God, but this doesn't make his actions a catholic action.. It was a political position. .

So again you gotta learn the difference between political actions, individual actions and collective actions of a group. . . Stop the fallacy of stereotyping.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 12:36pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Science in the modern sense of the word, mainly refers to the Scientific Method. And you have said that this started in the 17th century.
Seriously you need help... you lack adequate comprehension of simple english even from your source wikipedia.

SCIENCE was defined as a way of pursuing knowledge" just like seen below and ways of pursuing knowledge all dates back to ancient world which carefully formulated the disciplines we now know as scientific which is Physics, biology, alchemy, mathematics, astrology and many more

See Wikipedia on Science:

In modern usage "science" [size=20]most often[/size] refers to a way of pursuing knowledge, not only the knowledge itself.
Let me now show you that you don't understand simple english...

Somehow you always neglect the word enlarged... Method of pursuing knowledge which modern linguistic refers to as SCIENCE in modern tongue stretches back to ancient sumer and Egypt and even when the earliest hominide walked the earth.

In the 17th and 18th centuries scientists increasingly sought to formulate knowledge in terms of laws of nature. Over the course of the 19th century, the word "science" became increasingly associated with the scientific method itself, as a disciplined way to study the natural world, [b]including physics, chemistry, geology and biology. It is in the 19th century also that the term scientist began to be applied to those who sought knowledge and understanding of nature.
[i]And this shows the word "SCIENCE" was just a recent add to English linguistic, you practically confuse addition of the word science to the concept of science itself which was defined above " way of pursuing knowledge"

And the bolded science disciplines wikipedia mentioned here are all disciplines formulated in ancient world right through egypt which the ancient know as Natural Philosophy because the word science has not emerged. . . Natural philosophy as science was referred back then remains the same scientific studies you have now only the lingual representation differs of which you naively think lingual addition equate the formulation of the concept.

How can someone with brain claim scientific knowledge was formulated by the church yet knows fully well that the scientific disciplines we have physics, maths, bio etc all predates the emergence of the church with thousands of years...

THAT was practically invented by the Catholic Church...especially through a clergyman called Roger Bacon.
And this just shows the church invented a practically dead brain in you when you cannot distinguish the difference between linguist representation and the concept.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 12:16pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Cc johnydon22

This should help. Please read the whole page and see how Atheistic govts justified killing and evil.

State atheism
State atheism is a popular term used for a government that is either antireligious, antitheistic or promotes atheism. In contrast, a secular state purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion. State atheism may refer to a government's anti-clericalism, which opposes religious institutional power and influence in all aspects of public and political life, including the involvement of religion in the everyday life of the citizen.

State promotion of atheism as a public norm first came to prominence in Revolutionary France (1789-1799).[1] Revolutionary Mexico followed similar policies from 1917, as did Marxist–Leninist states. The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (1917–1991) and the Soviet Union (1922–1991) had a long history of state atheism, whereby those seeking social success generally had to profess atheism and to stay away from houses of worship; this trend became especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929 to 1939. The Soviet Union attempted to suppress public religious expression over wide areas of its influence, including places such as central Asia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
And this just proved what i was saying... The soviet union state atheism was a political position...Political ideologies has nothing to do others. . . You are still stereotyping atheism with the political ideology of Stalin.

And you still arguing over that obvious facthuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 12:05pm On Jul 28, 2015
italo:
Never said the bold. You're arguing against your imagination.

I said Atheists justify their molestation of kids.

Those three are good examples.

No Catholic can justify molestation, unjust mass killings and persecutions with the religion.

The religion teaches opposite.
[b][i[You know for me to list out the atrocities committed by the church and popes through out history ranging from the killing of the knight templars and countess others won't clear the fact that the action of an individual molesting a child is bad.

Those atheist molesting kids all do so as their own individual action and it has nothing to do with atheists because atheism is not doctrine or dogma or religion, just a name labeled to people who lack belief in Gods.

Their actions are as bad as that of the catholic priests who do same in the sacristy with little altar boys all over the world of which airs in the news everyday.

But the actions of these priests are all actions of individuals and have nothing to do with other catholics or catholicism so too does the action of one atheist the sole doing of that atheist and has nothing to do with concept of atheism.

Learn to attribute individual behaviours on the individual and stop stereotyping these half baked childish fallacies. [/i][/b]
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Criticism Of Religion Is Important In Contemporary Africa by johnydon22(m): 11:52am On Jul 28, 2015
freecocoa:
You are dumb beyond redemption, like wtf?
He is still a kid in reason, i wonder why he just derailed the thread and steered it into catholic and non-catholic bashes when the Op was not even about catholicsm but Christianity and religion in general

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