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honeric01:
Since you believe everything in the bible, do you follow everything as written in the bible? if no, why?

Well since you haven't quite noticed yet, i think most stories in the bible are based on mythical fables.. and some are exaggerated historical materials too and many straight out fables. . .

I am not a theist

honeric01:
Hehe..and does who wrote the scrolls that were compiled together were Christians? he he heh e

Actually the old testament was written by jewish scribes, worshippers of yahweh ( tho a jewish depiction of yahweh) and the new testament by early century christian, too worshippers of the modernized version of yahweh. . . So get the drift now?

Da Vinci was not a worshipper of satan so how can he actually write a book on him . . moreover The Da Vinci code was written by Dan Brown.

honeric01:
How did you come to the conclusion that i believed everything in the bible or that i follow everything in the bible intoto?

Its not a conclusion, its an imaginative assumption. . . I might be wrong.. But i am wondering if you are a christian and dont believe the stories in the bible in toto then it leaves us wondering if you think some part of the word of god aint worth believing..

honeric01:
I think the da vinci code book shed a bit of light into the "devil" story.

And the da vinci code book was not even written by Da Vinci so its forgery and da vinci was a christian not satanist.
therefore the da vinci code fails to pass the criteria needed to for it to be taken serious.

honeric01:
There are books "telling" the story of the devil online. google them.

I hope you know some people worship this so called devil?

Ooh i know far too well people worship this devil. . people will worship anything ranging from stones to mythical entities (abstract ideas) found in the pages of books like god(s)/devil(s)... . So its quite understandable.

For the books online,.Uuhm i'd actually prefer books arranged in verses and chapters like the quran or bible. .

honeric01:
Should we then say the story of God and devil is a fairytale just like Spiderman?

Every sane person knows spiderman story is a made-to-believe story. is God and devil story same?

So actually you didn't get the drift?. . .


If the story of spiderman was in the bible, am sure you would have believed it. . . If you can recognize the criteria by which you deducted spiderman story to be fairy tale, then employ it in the yahweh and satan story in the bible, zeus and hades, allah and satan and other ancient mythologies and lets see how very different they are.

honeric01:
Hmmm valid point but do you even know if the devil exist?

Yeah you don't need to believe Spiderman exists before discussing him or the story. . do you?

Well there are all colourful stories so we can have a lot of fun discussing it.

Ichiato:
Well logically. No one asked for God's side of the story and no one is also stopping the devil from airing his side of the story.

Lol...i agree with this, no body is stopping him from telling his own side of the story ooo my brother ...hahahaha . . . . . But if it eventually does would you believe it?

malvisguy212:
hope you are not offended? You really need her prayer.

K

Hope you don't mind but you need books.

mujahid1339:
how is it spamming,how is it out of context or even derailing .I was saying those wonderful verses was like an introduction to the people of israel to the ultimate sacrifice ie the death of Christ,for salvation can only be found through blood.

Then open a thread for it, am sure the christians would enter and bash it out with you. . . stop trolling and spamming every thread on the religion section with it. .

Cc. Seun is this right?

malvisguy212:
the kind of evil you are indicating, I will never agree with it, if evil is base on human understanding, no one will feel guilty of doing evil, hitler did not just woke up and kill 6million Jews, but if you still see it as a concept base on his own understanding, I will not argue it with you .can I ask you a question? Is your mum a prayerful christian?

k

malvisguy212:
do atheists like evil? You say no atheist is linking God to evil? Here what pleatton say in response to an2lect who quote from the book of isaiah say God created evil :
plaetton:
Lol.
Nice of you to admit that your
imaginary moral law giver is
schizophrenic.
Now, what kind of MORAL laws
should Anyone expect from a bible-
certified schizophrenic.?
Seriously.

And you forgot to mention that An2elect quoted Isaiah 45:7 and plaetton used it against her just like i mentioned to you in my post.

You christians make that assertion by quoting Isaiah 45:7
Just like i have seen you quote many times and An2elect did here too
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.
So why blame an atheist for using your own words hewn from ur own
bible against you the same way we use quran against it.

So you see? plaetton only used her words against her and was not trying to attribute evil or anything at all to an abstract ideas such as a god.



So for the lower part of your post i would appreciate it if you discuss with me based on Your Own Analogies, not copy and paste other peoples ideas, so that when i address it i will be sure am addressing your own personal assertion

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
If God ends up blessing every fellow, the world would make no sense, hyperinflation, recession, and economic meltdown would ensue. So if Gos hasn't blessed you yet, take no offence and bear with the global economic cost implications.
cc plaetton daseed4 tohpahz lalasticlala ishilove mrpresident1 johnydon22 alfaseltzer

sir what exactly do you mean by blessing someone, you mean being successful? lol thats very laughable. .

Do not go around waiting for anything to do anything for you. None of the 5,000 God concepts humanity have conceived have been able to say hi outside their respective holybooks, talk more of saying hi in reality.

You are in planet earth ladened with blatant laughable and sometimes nonsensical superstitions. . . where people think merlin and seeker kind of magic are possible in a repackaged method.

If you do not move that cup, you can wait and pray and meditate till you die but nothing or any any deity can or will move that cup for you.
You have to stand up and grab that cup yourself.

In your circumstances take charge of it and full responsibility of it and work towards changing it cus am sure none of the successful people were sitting comfortably in their house and the blessings (success) fell down from the skies.

I always say The victims mindset dilutes the human potential, by not taking responsibility for our circumstances, we greatly reduced our ability to change them

Hiswordxray:
The post is even too long. I don't know who would waste their time to read it.

that mujihid is definately tartar9. . . Just spamming and trolling threads with spam posts that are always out of context. . That is absolutely very childish and immature.

malvisguy212:
Most atheists define evil according to their own interpretation By defining evil
as things they don't like, they have

For once in your life malvisguy stop using fallacious words to represent people's assertions.
Of all the times i have seen you discuss with atheists on the concept of morality i have never heard them term evil as "things they dont like"
They have always maintained its a concept that represents Actions or events unfavourable to human survival or well being

malvisguy212:
created a circular argument guaranteed
to "prove the non-existence" of God. The
Christian definition of evil is anything
done by one of God's spirit beings (humans or angels) against Him (or His
created beings). As such, God is never
responsible for evil - only His created
spirit beings.

No atheist is linking evil to an imaginary being or trying to prove it's inexistence, how they bother to disprove what have not been proven.

It actually falls on you to prove it exists hence it remains a claim until proven. . so don't expect any atheist to attribute anything to ideas (god) they literally lack belief in.

malvisguy212:
Atheists say that since only God can
create, therefore He must have created
evil. However, at this point the atheist
has redefined the meaning of create. Evil was not created. Evil is manifested
(committed) by free-will beings. Nice play on words, but it doesn't stand up to
examination.

Actually atheist don't attribute creation of anything to any mythical being in any form...And am sure i have treated this with you in one of your threads showing you evil is not a thing (that can be termed created) But a concept representing the abstract notion of actions or events unfavourable to human survival or well being.

You christians make that assertion by quoting Isaiah 45:7

Just like i have seen you quote many times and An2elect did here too

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

So why blame an atheist for using your own words hewn from ur own bible against you the same way we use quran against it.

Learn how to represent people's words exactly as they asserted and stop baseless deceptive straw man fallacies. . i thought deception was supposed to be a sin

Anas09:
Johnnydon
Let me now answer this question you keep bringing up.
The body of a child of God is the Temple of the Holy spirit so it should not be defiled until in marriage. Fornication and idolatry are one and the same sin, and God hates them to the point of removing anyone who commits it from amonsgt his people.

Am sure you dont even have any idea why i asked that question or maybe you didnt see my discussion with An2elect2. . The question was "Why does she An2elect2 find stoning brides that are not virgins to be immoral when the supposed law giver gave the law( meaning he thought it was moral)

How come what she finds to be moral different from what jehovah find to be moral?

Anas09:
Jehovah is a moral and an upright God. He is the law giver, he has the prerogative to penalise any offender who disobey those laws, as He sees fit, so that it will serve as a deterrant to others.

So then stoning a non virgin bride is moral then since ur supposed moral Jehovah said it is...Very sick.

Anas09:
You say there's no God, not because u r certain that there's no God, because anytime you open ur eyes you stire God in the face, but because you don't want to feel accountable to Him. In other words, you want to usurp his sovereignty and be god for urself. But when Calamity strikes you turn around and blame Him, instead of putting the blame on science.
Those who disobey God, chooses to obey satan, so the consiquence is there to receive. God is a just God who will not let any injustice go unpurnished.

Am sorry I must sound offensive here but you are very sick and needs check up.
First; you assume stupendous nonsense about me and then spew rubbish that has nothing to do with the question.

You are the one who say there is a god and so is supposed to be substantiating the proof of your jehovah god just like muslims are faced with the burden of proving their allah god and hindu the burden of proving krishan (god)

I don't feel accountable to a mythical entity unproven and self contradictory. i am accountable to the laws of the federal republic of Nigeria. I am not a hypocritic sick moral tilted human being that commits atrocities then rush into the room to mumble words to the ceiling, come out and say he is forgiven, ridding himself of the guilt of your actions.
I take responsibilities for whatever i do. . Good or bad.

The bolded am sure you are not as daft as you appear in this post. please try and show some sanity in posts.
I know the difference between myth and reality, i don't go blaming mythical beings for occurrences if so i would be blaming zeus for thunder storms. I take absolute responsibilities for my circumstances unlike you who rush from church to church, crusade to crusade begging a mythical entity that seem aloof too.

Atheists dont go about blaming a mythical entity only found in the pages of a book for calamities. be it zeus, jehovah, allah, thor, odin, horus.

And how can someone blame science(studies)..(maybe if rain falls you blame it on chemistry) Dude you need to visit a psychiatric doctor

Anas09:
The bride who knows the law says, she meets her husban rid chaste but goes on to commit fornication anyway, has already signed up for the consiquence.

So then you find it morally okay for them to stone a bride found not be a virgin which unfortunately An2elect2 who my question was for based on our discussion dont find this to be right.

Anas09:
AND, Johny please mention the names of brides that christians have stoned for marrying when they have lost their virginity.

And this was exactly my point that you missed and dabbled into a discussion you dont even know.

Since you claim the jewish deity Jehovah god to be ur moral giver, why then are you not stoning young brides that are not virgins as the moral giver stipulated in his laws?

is it that this moral giver's laws can be cherrypicked or you guys just dont like that part.

since he is the moral law giver, it should be canon that all his laws are moral, why then are you not following that moral law?
why then do you not find it okay to stone non virgins?

Next time please read a discussion before trying to reply a question with an out of context answer. This post shows you have no idea what i talked with An2elect2, please next time if you can't address a post directly and not dabble into ad hominems by assuming stupendous nonsense about me, don't mention me.

Read things before you comment on.it.

MODS is it okay for this guy mujahid and tartar9 above me ^^^ to be spamming every thread in the religion section with this particular post above..

Cc. OAM4J and Seun

Smooyis:
Thank God he is now happy.

Yeah as usual you forgot to give the real heroes (the doctors that spent more than 30hours performing this wonderful medical feat) and the family that donated the face the credit..

Shortyy:
confused people

Hehehehehehe if he truly is igbo then the dude is not confused. . . He is eyeing going to meccah, that place has cheap jeweries. . am betting my guy will come home a rich nigga. . never underestimate igbo money sense

gragraboy:
For igbo man na money 1st before religion.

We no deh carry last na . . . who say money no good

Op what is his name? . . . I wonder how he is igbo without a name

[size=20] Why do you think killing a bride that is found not to be a virgin is not moral when your moral giver (god) gave this law thinking it is moral?[/size]

An2elect2 you seem not to have an answer to this?.?

lol

Orunto:
You are interesting. Good. Jesus was man on earth and so masculine. Christ is His Spirit in Heaven and so neutal gender. But when you call Jesus Christ while on earth, His masculinity on earth holds sway.

. . So does Jesus have hands, feet and face in heaven?

Orunto:
God Himself is the Instructor of all BornAgains. He teaches us what we know so you can't find somethings in www.google.com 'cos it is not BornAgain and so stupid sometimes. Goodluck my friend.

And God didn't teach you what atheism means? Or the Origin of the word God? (A medieval Old Norse word for Odin). . . This instructor doesn't quite teach you bornAgains useful things of renown intellect for 21st century beings i say. .

The guy is a geek. . . Lol

Orunto:
God is Instrution, masculine word in Greek and Latin..... ........ God is Wisdom, femiline word in Greek and Latin....... ...... God is Spirit, neutal gender in Greek and Latin.......

Jesuuuuusssssss!!! ... what

Orunto:
........... So this athiest, is it illuminati or Confucius?

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