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ayoku777:
Is God not a spirit? Does God not have eyes and hands, and mouth? Are angels not spirits? Do angels not have eyes, hands, mouth etc?

Uuhm so God has hands, nose, eyes, mouth, legs, stomach?

Feraz:
There are peeps interested in things like these. . .

CC blackjewelry, johnydon22, kslibb...they are many just that they haven't seen this thread...

I think he is right most nairalanders are not interested in things like this thats why the science section is far less frequented than the sahara desert and its topics rearly hit the FP.

For the Op. . . I think he didn't consider the Mass of the Moons compared to their respective planets. The mass of the moon compared to earth is 1/81 compared to most planets that have moons 3/10,000 mass compared to the planet...

Of course with a close relationship of mass between the earth and the moon hence the effects the gravitational pull of the moon has on the earth add another moon of similar mass to this equation, it will be catastrophic like your Op pointed out and may lead to annihilation or possible extinction of life.

I think the earth can handle another moon of far less mass but with increased activities.

DProDG, Davien, pr0ton, menesheh, finofoya, 5minsmadness, frank317 and others

Ramos16:
I am not sure but it might be impossible for two suns to be that close, remember that the gravitationa forcel increases as the size of the planetary bodies increase and also increases inversely as the square of their distance of separation. F=(Gmm)/r²

So for two bodies to be "suns" they would be really heavy, and for the earth to feature both they would have to be close, increasing the gravitational pull between them, hence one of two things would occur, either one collapse into the other or they would suck up other bodies, the earlier is the most probable.

Actually there are star systems where two stars are so close together that they touch and in some cases share a common envelop. . . It's called Contact Binary system

MicroBox:
The higher the tide the more efficiency our power plant would be..... Tidal Power Plant

And the more Tsunamies, Volcanoes and Earth quakes you get per day. . Not to mention a near impossible sailable tides

chiefolododo:
or two suns

It is practically impossible to have two suns.. . The sun is a planetary star with a mass of (1.988 55 ± 0.000 25) × 10 30 kg. . The nearest star in the milky way galaxy to our own star is the Alpha centauri which is 4 light years away (Note that this astronomical unit light year Is equivalent to 9trillion kilometers )

So the distance of the nearest star to our own star the sun is 36trillion kilometers ..

For us to have two stars at similar distance as the sun, first The planetary system would be like hocus pocus.

The planets wouldn't survive it.

And i dont think they will an "us" on earth to see these two suns (stars) in our solar system.

davien:
You know there's trouble when an atheist trolls... Lol...

Please dave no trolling, let them have a good discussion and enjoy it.

KingEbukasBlog:
lol ... no p sha ... but you married? saw you with kids on your NL dp sometime

Hahahahahaha Nooo. . . But am totally gonna get married soon. Being dating my bae since 2010 now

KingEbukasBlog:
oh sorry its 4.5 billion ... the universe's age is close to that (13.8b ,appr 14b)... sorry ... but why didnt you just point the mistake out?

Am over here drinking Holandia yoghout, my bae came. . . so just didnt want to spark up an argument bro.... She's even angry i touch my tab from time to time.. you know girls naa

adexsimply:
but you said the Bible didn't say that. Didn't you ? Doesn't that make you a liar ?

Can you also type the keyword "earth" on your google search and upload a picture of this achieve for us here please..

KingEbukasBlog:
... u didnt know or what?

I didnt know. . .Uuuhm ok just type "Earth" on ur google search and post us the picture of the achieve just as you for adexsimple....Lets see

KingEbukasBlog:
nooooo ... I read mine on dailymail .... Offcourse, the earth is 13-15 billion years and the age of fossils prove the earth is really old.

Uuuhm the earth is 13-15billion years old

KingEbukasBlog:
yup , read the article last week .

Why do you think OLAADEGBU didn't want to provide information about the dating on his Op, it got me confused why he chose to with hold that information in his Op..?

Sweetguy25:
How can you succeed on a mission where your fathers all failed? Do you reason at all?

Because i am not my father and neither are you your father. . . We cannot live like them or for them, we live like us for us...

The social world is always evolving. . If everyone keeps doing exactly what their father did, am not sure if the world would move at all... Do i still reason at all?

adexsimply:
hahaha, so it's older than the biblical earth ?

Apparently

KingEbukasBlog:
60 million years

And this is correct.

adexsimply:
This proves nothing. Let it be dated first

It has been dated....turns out carbon dating placed it at 60million

The specimens were in sandstone from the Paskapoo Formation, a
Palaeocene age sedimentary rock which underlies parts of southern Alberta.
'Hasn't changed my mind'
About 60 million years old, these rocks preserve evidence of life from the time
following the mass extinction event at the end of the Cretaceous period, which
wiped out three-quarters of all species on earth, including the dinosaurs.
"Because complete fossils are relatively rare from this time period in Alberta,
any such discoveries are significant as they shed light on the nature and
diversity of animals that lived not long after the extinction of the dinosaurs,"
said University of Calgary palaeontologist Darla Zelenitsky.
According to the university, all fossils in Alberta are the property of the
province, and do not belong to the landowners or the finders.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32928979

DickTator1:
@OP very intelligent write up, thumbs up for your research.

But it was unanimous by our past leaders that Nigeria is a scam by the Brits.

Awolowo captured it here with this epic:

Yes bro, i agree they were unanimous about it.

You saw the quote of Lord Harcourt on the Amalgamation.

The union has been shaky since 1914, and it has survived for 101years now still as shaky as ever.

Since all this shakiness and unrest have not broken up the entity Nigeria, is it not better we all drop our grievances and make it liveable ..

Since separation have not been actualized why not forget about disrupting our peace and progress in the name of seeking separation

and

Work for our own common peace and progress, i think the notion of one NIGERIA will come naturally if this is achieved. (Peace and Progress)

Rilwyne001 and SHARIAREPORTERS This is exactly what am against....please stop it

I grew up with this stanza of the National anthem ringing into my ears right from the time i learnt how to speak To love our father's Land, with love and strength and faith"

I grew up to love dearly the country i found myself in and still do so, this thread is not an attack on any tribe but a call to order for we the leaders of today to take back our land, time to tell our father's of yesterday,
"Please it's Our turn, let us do it our way, seat back and watch"

The labour of our heroes past Who were our heroes ?

Nigeria was created in January 1914, when the Northern and Southern protectorates were merged under Lord Frederick Lugard.

What was the motive behind this union?
Let us hear directly from Lord Harcourt (Colonial Secretary) himself..

We have released the north (northern protectorate) from the leading strings of the treasury( British treasury).
The promising and well behaved youth(north) is now on an allowance on his own.
And is about to effect an alliance with a southern lady of means(Southern protectorate). I have issued the special license and Sir Frederick Lugard will perform the ceremony.
May the union be fruitful and the couple, constant Lord Harcourt (1st Januluary 1914)

The couple constant, We hope.

What did our Founding Fathers think? Did they buy this idea of One Nigeria? Let us look at some of their speeches to see if we can grasp a little of what they thought. .

Tafawa Balewa stated in the legislative council in 1948

“Since 1914 the British Government has been trying to make Nigeria into one
country, but the Nigerian people themselves are historically different in their
backgrounds, in their religious beliefs and customs and do not show
themselves any sign of willingness to unite... Nigerian unity is only a British
intention for the country.”

A look at this will show you he didn't think it was working, We all know he was later the Prime Minister of Nigeria.

He also stated in a speech in the Northern House of Assembly in kaduna (1952)

`the Southern people who are
swarming into this region daily in large numbers are really intruders.
We don`t want them and they are not welcome here in the North. Since the
amalgamation in 1914, the British Government has been trying to make Nigeria
into one country, but the Nigerian people are different in every way including
religion, custom, language and aspiration. The fact that we`re all Africans
might have misguided the British Government. We here in the North, take it
that `Nigerian unity` is not for us`.

And my question to this is, A man moving from one place to another in his COUNTRY, is he an immigrant or an intruder or just a citizen of the country exercising his franchise?

Then Again Our dearly respected Chief Obafemi Awolowo Once said in 1947

"Nigeria is not a nation. It is a mere geographical expression. The word Nigerian is merely a
distinctive appellation to distinguish those who live within the boundaries of Nigeria from those who
do not".

- Path To Nigerian Freedom, 1947

Is he right?
My question is to us leaders of today, The youths of Nigeria. Do we agree that our country is just a geographical expression?

In his autobiography “My Life” Sir Ahmadu Bello described the amalgamation
of the Northern and the Southern Provinces as

“The mistake of 1914.”

Let us not forget that Parties then were based on tribal tribal allegiance.. Example.
National Conference of Nigeria and Cameroon(NCPC) of which Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe belonged was An eastern dominated or inclined party.

Action Congress (AG) Obafemi Awolowo belonged was western inclined.

Northern People's Congess (NPC) was predominant in the North.

It is impossible to state important events in Nigeria without mentioning the Nigerian Civil War of 1967 of which in Aburi where the young leaders of the troubling Nigeria met to determine the fate of the nation.

Odumegwu Ojukwu stated

Let us go further apart and be together

When he proposed a Confederal System of Government of which his comrades agreed to after much discussions and healthy arguments.

It is also remarkable to say that; The Ending part of the Accord basked in the light of a friendly scenario, they laughed and played around as comrades in the army they all were. Ceremonial decorations were thrown off the window, Gowon was referred to as Jack (A named his comrades know him with in the military) while Ojukwu was called Emeka.. it was a friendly turn that didn't just end in a hand shake but a hug between Ojukwu and Gowon.

I have pointed this out to show our youths that these set of leaders (Ojukwu/Gowon) set had the chance to change Nigeria for good. they had the chance to correct the mistakes of our fathers.

We are in the 21st century, Nigeria is still battered from every angle by the same cankerwormous factors that have been rubbing us of our peace since 1914. . We have the likes of Niger/Deltar Militancy, MASOB, MASOP, OPC, Islamic Bank, Boko Haram Terrorism, Continued cries of marginalization from every angle.

Coming to Nairaland political section, I can rightly say that we are about to trail in the footsteps of our fathers.

No this is wrong, we should do it in our own way. . . The tribal grudge, sentiments, bigotry and hatred our fathers may have had in past is their own cup of tea and doesn't concern us.

Let us show them that Nigeria is more than just "A geographical Expression" that Nigeria is not "a mistake" That nigeria " Can stay together and be in peace"

The ball is in our court to correct these mistakes, not make the same mistake for the third time in history. We can teach our fathers what they failed to teach us.

I was stated in one of my threads about the need to employ real federalism in this system were many differences can be identified in us.

In a confederal system of government, A man from eastern region cannot
go to the west to vote or be voted for and same applies to others.

But we have employed a federal system of government and thus in doing
this we have broken down any wall separating us.

We have only one Federal Republic of Nigeria, and so in this FEDERAL
system of government, their is nothing like Igbo land, yoruba land, hausa
land, tiv land; what we have is Nigeria.

So a yoruba man in the north is not an immigrant or a visitor, he is at
home and have every right to own a property and contest for any post
there in the north be it governor or anything as long as he is voted for,
he is eligible and qualified.

An hausa man in the east is not an immigrant or a visitor, he is a
Nigerian in Nigeria and that is it.

Same goes for an igbo man in the west. That is true federalism.
But we are not doing that, the federal system in Nigeria is not true
federalism because people still think they own one specific region but
this is not true... FEDERALISM MEANS ONE NIGERIA and that is all.
https://www.nairaland.com/2268066/aburi-prophecy

This is my own little way of calling on our youths especially in this forum, let us teach our fathers what federalism means, let us forget tribalistic claims and think of One Nigeria.


Only us have the power to achieve this, and if we fail, what do we think our children will do. Will they fail like us too?

I think the time to act is now and now always. . They call us leaders of tomorrow, we have to refuse answering that and start seeing our tomorrow in today, we take our fate in our hands.

Let me stop here but not without showing my stance.. Nnamdi Azikiwe stated

Let us forget our differences and live together

Everyone can add to what i said but please no tribal inclined comments, and i call on the MODS to help and remove any comment they think is tribally tilted, we are trying to build not destroy...
Let the love that binds us together be stronger than ethnicity that separates us.

My Opinion. . . Thanks...

I am a Nigerian from Enugu state

I love Nigeria
I love Hausa
I love Yoruba
I love Igbo
I love Ijaw
Niger/Delta and every other tribes in the Four geographical points of Nigeria. . .
Let us actualize the last sentence of our Anthem.
"One nation bound in freedom, peace and unity"

LET US MAKE ONE NIGERIA, A REALITY

By Johnydon22

malvisguy212:
see who is talking, do you even know the meaning of truth?

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johnw74:
Ok, you dont know or just answer..

Hahahahahahaha I like this guy, your dodging style is epic...

You just made my day, it was one hell of a good laugh...


Sorry abeg, if i had known i wouldn't have decided to place you under some questions, at least it would have averted this embarrassing show..lolzz.

Accept my apology, didnt mean to make you embarrass yourself like this

Olammy76:
subhanallah..do u tink dey are muslims..go and find out more abt islam and see hw is peace more than other act wch dey call relegion

They are doing exactly as commanded in the Koran

Surah 4 :74.
Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter
fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and
is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward.

johnw74:
No I'm not going to tell you,
don't like blasphemers.

Hahahahaha another method of accepting you don't know?

You have being here quoting bible verses, Just one question and you are on your heels.

What you call blasphemy, i call skepticism .. So just say you dont know or just answer..

He knows people who will go to hell before creating them Yes or No??

johnw74:
pity you can't ask Him, right?

Hahahahahaha is that a dodging method? . . .. . . You have been speaking for him here why dont you finish up since he needs u to speak for him..


He knows people who will go to hell before creating them right? Please answer..

so have the fossils been carbon dated? . . . tell us the date then?

Lol. . . Dude above me, don't know what else to say... frank317 fire on, teach the young man some hard truths ...

johnw74:
There is nothing He does not know

So he already knows the people that will go to hell before creating them right?

Empiree:
Why do they use father xmas. why can't they use "mother xmas" is it blasphemy

Nobody forbids anybody from making a mother christmas. . after all Santa Claus doesnt claim to be genderless, it is a male.... But god is genderless

And why are you not asking me why it is called mother earth and not father earth?

ProphetUdeme:
to repent means to Turn to Christ. The guy died and you dont know whats happening to him out there in eternity. But wait. Youre an atheist right? Since you dont believe in the existence of the Sovereign Lord. Do you believe that when the body dies the soul and senses and reasoning of the person still lives on?

Muslims define repent as accepting allah...


Define death?

ProphetUdeme:
my young friend made mention of this. That he will use hell's fire to light his cigarettes. But today the guy is no more. One word for you REPENT

Just like that friend of yours, you will still die.... So ?



Repent from what?

johnw74:
There is nothing in these verses about those to go to hell.
It looks to me from scriptures that names can be written into and erased from the book of life,
so it must have something to do with the individual, whether he wants to be saved or not.

Some though are apparently chosen to be saved:

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

You know i didn't ask for this long boring quotes, my question was simple i dont know where the long post came from...

@bolded, So you mean god doesn't quite know who will go and who will not before creating them

why do you people have a knack for contradicting yourselves? Here is your post that i quoted.

johnw74:
It was known even before the creation who is to be saved. Search for the
scriptures. If you want to.

Now you change your stance and assert the opposite...

Which one is it: Does he know the people that will be saved millions of years before creating them or not