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MzNelly:
Lol, I actually read it.

And it's a bunch of Muslims who believe in the killing like their lives depended on it.

Being a while

Mehn am not a fan of long boring copy and paste... Albert Einstein said "If you cant explain it simply, then you dont understand it well enough.

A little straight to the point short post can inform and achieve more than these long post copied from websites..

Yeah dear, you missed me

MzNelly:
^^^

Wow, this gurl really means them Muslims o

its a battle if copy and paste

I wonder if they really read these stuffs themselves before copying and pasting it.

And do they really expect us to read these long boring copy and pastes

Misogynist2014:
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.

hahahahaha i dropped my life so i can pick it up again... hahahahahahaha.. who is the dropper and who is the droppee

And it keep getting dumber

Hiswordxray:
"No god" concept is also a hypothesis, why do you test it and give us a tangible result?

Lol, No god is not a concept, its disbelief of ur god concept.

So is dependent on the god concept. . the position of disbelief changes with the proof of the subject which it is dependent.

So when you substantiate your god hypothesis by bringing up demonstrateable proof, then my position of disbelief will change..

And you yourself will no longer need faith because it now becomes knowledge..

Hiswordxray:
And it also remains a claim until you prove that God doesn't exist.

lmao... i can see you need some brain check... I dont believe you is a claim?..lol.

Me : I have a baseball (claim)
You: I dont believe you prove it (this is not a claim)
Me: Here see ( brings out baseball) as simple as that..

in this case ..

You : Their is a god (claim)
Me: I dont believe it, prove it (this is not a claim)
YOU: you cant prove their is not

Hahahahahahahaha, You see? the burden of proof is on the claimant to substantiate your claim with proof then beg for refutation.
Once this can't be done, it still remains a claim and nothing more..

If i say their is a baseball and fail to back up my claim with proof, my lack up proof is proof enough that i don't have a baseball until i prove i have.

If you claim their is a god and as we all know have failed to provide proof of this, your lack of proof is proof enough that their isn't until you provide proof..

Now run along boy

Misogynist2014:
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1 Thessalonians 5:10

so ur god cant forgive u unless he gets blood sacrifice.. to the extent of killing his son, he cant just go ahead and forgive it unless his son is tortured and murdered... Thats blood lust ..even human morality is fvcking better than that..

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Scholar8200:
Those are footnotes, man's recent additions. It is no news that these footnotes are usually added( especially when the Version is originating from a sect/group) to reflect the beliefs of that group. If they claim that they ,"fictitiously' made Cain and Abel there children, I ask who then were their real parents? Bare in mind that this predated the great dispersion Genesis 11:9 hence there were no different tribes and all the people groups will trace their descent from their father; Kenites Adam- cain, Israelites: Adam-Seth etc to identify themselves.

It is Just myth, didn't you read if well? Adam and eve is just Jewish myth

goofyone:
Hitler launched vituperative assaults on Jews and Christians alike.

Eeeehm oga hitler's assaults were on the jews not christians... He was under the impression that germany was betrayed by the jews during W.W.1..... he fought in w.w.1

uuuh..

Scholar8200:
The kenites were Cain's descendants but it is reasonable that their genealogy was common knowledge at that time, the whole earth was of one language( and had not dispersed)... before GOD scattered them Genesis 11:1,8.

Adam and Eve had other offsprings apart from Cain and Abel just as Metuselah, Enoch etc had other kids and not just the one mentioned in genealogical reckoning( which , in the OT ,never includes names of daughters). The focus on Seth is because right from the beginning God was working towards fulfilling the promise made in Genesis 3:15. just as Abraham had other kids too but the focus was on Isaac.Genesis 25:1-5.

I am saying that cain and abel were not originally added to the adam and eve mythology....
Cain and abel are kenite mythology borrowed by the Jewish scribe that wrote the adam and eve fable, and fictiously made cain and abel their children.

let me show you a snap shot of the New Community Bible (Catholic edition) explanation.

lol 170 people in T.B joshua's church...lol...add that to the list

Esdb3:
Does your list include myles munroe? If yes go and read up on his heresies. I'm not judging them but when you try to talk things you have no insight on... You know what... Pele (yoruba for sorry) you don't believe there is God abi, good walk Ýour own path let me walk mine. We'll see where it leads to.

hahahahahahhaha frustration

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Blakjewelry:
You are getting it all wrong, given the size of the universe will never to explore it end or know how vast is the universe. Take another case for instance the law of physics breakdown inside a black hole, I tried to wrap my head around that same question but to no avail. Even if can create a warp drive we can still never conquer the whole universe, if we can't conquer our universe, what of other universe and remember the law governing these other universe might be different. Also remember that the simulation is not entirely correct because we have not fully understand dark matter and some of the figures inputed into the system might be adjusted in the future

I never said we could, i said knowledge will improve with time...its certain we will know more then than we know now

Misogynist2014:
Origin that is conscious and origin that is unconscious. What is hard to grasp there? This is what you try to do when you see you've been stalemated, instead of you to surrender and accept loss, you try to meander your sword, trying to divert from the main issue, until a new fight is established in which you'll beat me with experience.

Hahahahahahahaha... Go through our discussion and see who really is stalemated and have lost every ounce of argument left...

You asserted a conscious and unconscious origin, i asked you to define what you mean by that, and you cant even do that? ...lmao . . why am i even still wasting my time with this guy.. I have already rubbished your op with my first posts, now you resort to straw man for defence.. If you cant face the topic and not refer to me then am done... Go leak ur wounds boy... Remember to call me next time you need more

Misogynist2014:
What then have you been commenting on?

Elaborate more on your idea of conscious origin, let us have a full grasp of what you are implying by conscious or unconscious origin ... Once and for all

Misogynist2014:
If you are then asserting that there is no possibility of conscious origin, you must have a reason.

What do you mean by conscious origin?

Misogynist2014:
What I'm saying is that God is a possibility that cannot be discarded without reason, because our origin is either conscious or unconscious, and God falls under the former.

god concept is a claim or lets say a hypothesis... And what do you mean by Conscious or unconscious origin?

Misogynist2014:
What I told ifeness was that since consciousness and unconsciousness are the two possible solutions to the problem of our origin. It is also true that God is under consciousness, isn't it right to disprove the possibility of His existence first before discarding Him?

Lmao...You are still making an assertion without proof meaning it remains a claim and not a possibility.. Until you are able to substantiate this claim then their will be something to disprove.. For now their isnt

Misogynist2014:
It is not to you to ask me this question since you don't believe in any god. If it is then that you are retracting from being an atheist, tell me why you removed this from your list of myths?

I asked you that question to show you how absurd your question is... I asked you to prove a flying pink unicorn exists because i know you cant, and this is because it not proven so their is nothing to disprove, its just i claim i made and it is on me to first prove it before it can be studied and refuted.

Same goes to you asking him to prove to you a god dont exist, when you havent proved it yet, it remains a claim until you prove a god exist...

Misogynist2014:
Now, prove to me God doesn't exist.

Now prove to me that a pink flying unicorn in space who created the universe doesnt exist...

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Misogynist2014:
Writing from the stand point of a theist, what objection(s) do you have?

but am not a theist ...i already done my bit as an atheist..

But if i were a theist, still it will fall down to assumptions and conceiving my own ideas...

Misogynist2014:
......therefore like I said this post is not to assert the evidence of God, your belief affects its acceptability, but for theists, it is without objection.

That is it exactly, Your belief doesnt make things true... your belief doesnt even make it probably true... belief has no weight at all on reality..

I may be have belief that God (zeus ) created the world, this still doesnt make it true..

Misogynist2014:
You could have been right, but puting our differences aside, we all know that for God to exist, nothing must have existed before him, so no reality before him. This action mst take place at infinity......

@bolded, this same you asserted time existed before god... You dont really know what is it you think it is...

And now you have employed another assumptions to throw a weight on ur concept which exactly why atheist think god concpets are mere human assumptions

Misogynist2014:
Yes, time was existent in the state of nothingness, the existence of God started it from its zero state, therefore God came from time when it was nothing.

Time existed in a state of nothingness, Nothingness is What? lmao... Your assertion is Time was in existence before ur god..

Misogynist2014:
Let me ask you 2 questions, if you were not born, would time exist to you?

If you were not born, you wouldnt be in existence, still doesnt mean time doesnt exist

Misogynist2014:
If there is no one conscious, would time exist?

Conscious to you is perception... Meaning god came into existence from nothing and saw a reality which is time just like me

tallceejay:
Why r u bothered ? Do u wish him dead ??

Am not bothered, harsh words are not a good way to express opinions...

Misogynist2014:
In fact, before you posted this, I knew someone will post the contradiction. Yes time was before God, it was in its zero state, [size=20]God sprang it into existence[/size].

Time was before god, now you have corrected your assertion, its no longer he created time..According to u now god has a source which is time..

@enlarged.. He sprang into existence all of a sudden from nothing? oH i remember he sprang into existence from time which means time created god..

Misogynist2014:
Let me take for example, was time existent to you before you were born? Wasn't it your existence that started time? (so also was time not existent, until something conscious sprang it into existence) Does this mean you didn't come from time?

My mother was already conscious and time was in existence before i was born... Or following this logic then they must be some conscious beings that predates god which brought it into existence just like mother brought me into existence...
@bolded it means i came from my mother ..

This your argument is just shooting yourself in the head, and going against your religious dogmas .

Misogynist2014:
Let us put who the true God is apart for now for the purpose of topic.

Their is nothing like true god, as you said all are concepts..

We will take it one after the other...

Misogynist2014:
1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not. die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction. Habakkuk
Since all scriptures are inspired by God 2 Timothy 3:16,

Now it is clear which god you are trying to show us **the bible god** Now quoting some bible verses to assert the bible god exists is like quoting the spider man comic book to asset spider man exists.... doesnt work that way..

Misogynist2014:
This verse points to the fact that God came forth [size=20]from[/size] time

You just shot urself in the head... he came from time which means time existed before it... You can only come from what is before you.

Misogynist2014:
i.e He coexisted with time, HE is from everlasting (time). For time to exist, something has to be conscious of its existence, therefore, the CONSCIOUSNESS that sprang time into existence is God

lmao the same god you just said came from time ...hahahaha

Misogynist2014:
- - infinite and boundless in all attributes. He started time (without HIM was not anything made that was), time was nonexistent before HIM (since it wasn't conscious). This took place at infinity and will end at infinity (which means God is a sourceless source, beginning unknown, end unattainable).

He started time, at the same time came from time...This is real logic i can see...lol

Misogynist2014:
What I mean is that something must be consciously existent for time to function, without THIS, time is nonexistent. The existence of this CONSCIOUSNESS sprang time into existence (this CONSCIOUSNESS was LIFE and this LIFE was GOD).

You just quoted he came from time, now you are asserting time is none existent without consciousness....Mehn am marveled at this feeble logic attempt.

Misogynist2014:
It should be noted that
1) From this, it shows God requires no source.

You just said it came from time, meaning time is it's source..
Another fail..

Misogynist2014:
2) It doesn't mean God is provable, it only shows God is conceivable,

YEAH JUST LIKE A FLYING UNICORN IS NOT PROVABLE BUT CONCEIVABLE **this means and proves atheists stance that god(s) are conceived ideas**... No wonder humans have conscieved up to 5,000 God concepts..

Misogynist2014:
without being tagged fōol. If we have evidence (the universe is more than enough evidence), then faith is not required. God wants us to believe through faith.

The universe? Lol.. we have heard that before..Allah claims that too, even brahma and krishna..

Misogynist2014:
THIS POST IS NOT TO EXPLAIN THE FORM OR ATTRIBUTES OF GOD, IT IS ONLY ON HOW GOD CAME INTO EXISTENCE AS IS WRITTEN IN THE HOLY BIBLE. IT IS TO HELP PEOPLE IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND WHERE JEHOVAH CAME FROM, TO MAKE THEM TO BE VERY SURE OF HIS EXISTENCE (though improved faith), EVEN GIVE PROOF ATHEISTS REQUIRE, INSTEAD OF A NON-DEFENDABLE FAITH (which HE definitely wants us to know and do). THIS ARTICLE IS DEFENDABLE, METHOD USED IS NOT AMBIGUOUS.

This post is a mockery of reason and logic ... a crucifix that plain reason is killed... So everything you wrote up there makes sense to you?
Oh this is just wonderful