₦airaland Forum

gatiano:
xaxaxaxaxax, by far you are not an atheist. according to one of your post in this same tread;

Honestly it's not a tag i love being referred with but since it was a label given to those of us who disbelief the concept of gods as reality seeing none of the claims can be demonstrated. so i kinda dont av any objection being referred to as one.

Atheist do not belief in the incorporeality of gods(God as spirit). the white control christianity, Judaism, Islam and modern African traditional religion believe in god as a spirit. Atheist simply say that there is not god.

But the disbelief in the concept of God/Gods as reality/corporeality is not Atheism, it is satanism or denialism. which means deep inside, they believe there is God/Gods.

what? and am supposed to start exchanging words with you when you simply lack comprehension?? let me make it clear to you now i disbelief all concepts of god(s) and i also disbelief any claim of spirit or anything supernatural so this your "atheist dont believe in the incoporation of gods as spirits" is way of the hook and uncalled for.
[size=20]I am a proud atheist[/size] So can you just shift well with your black god islam shiiiit...
am done replying you when you lack comprehension of simple english..Please if you cannot address the point raised in the op, don't bother quoting me cus i wont reply it.

gatiano:
You broke my chair because i fell out of it suddenly, i could not believe my eyes reading this fine post of yours. I am still checking is this johnydon22? like you had a dream or epiphany. Afterall, you are not an atheist, You are just not yet convinced, and asking questions is a wonderful thing, GOD loves it so much. Keep seeking, knowledge has no bound.
I do hope that with your questions, you understand what Self-forgetfulness means?
Our suffering is due to living other than ourselves, adopting other people's culture.

lol seems you like not comprehending people's quote but fast enough to chip in your views.. like i said in the last part I am an atheist That i love african culture and mythology doesnt mean i hold it to be reality, its still mythology like others..

I am very emotionally attached to africa and the black race as a whole.
Being a huge fan of mythology i have dabbled into so many of them both
jewish, ugarit, egyptian, greek, roman, mayan, sumerian, african and most
especially recently the igbo mythology.
I remember as a young boy being born into a strict christian home, my
parents always warned me not to near anything related to masquerade or
eating any food used in such ceremonies that it was a big sin and i would
go to hell if i did. they even warned me not to eat in one of my uncle's
house that the food may have been offered to a pegan god meaning it is
sin.
I recall going to confession after eating such food which was irresistible
from the huge chunk of meats and fish it was garnished with, i carried the
guilt of that supposedly sin for more than 2years.
Growing up, i started reading some historical documents, african mythology
and history in general.
I realised that the christian faith my parents were so quick to place above
African traditional religion was a recent imported religion.
So many questions began forming in my mind.
a. How did we know the white people were right and our own religion and
Gods were false?
b. How is the african religion evil?
c. Why neglect our own mythology and history for the mythology and
history of another people.
d. Is it really right to forgo out rich cultural heritage because some white
men in white flowing robes said so?
e. What really is peganism and how did it differ from the ancient religions of
these other people (arabs and jews) that have been forced down our
throat.
I had so many questions, but bringing it up to my parents as a young boy
would incur their wrath and allegedly anger God (the christian God).
The african traditional religion have been with africa from the very
beginning, in fact one cannot separate the African history from african
traditional religion.
It a way our fore-fathers tried explaining the universe and the cosmos and
their own little way of doing science; Astrology, arts, music, medicine and
remarkably even mathematics.
By separating Africans from african history, the colonial masters forced
theirs on us, their religion were imposed on us that today you can see
people going to any length to portray these foreign myths as a universal
truth, the question is "How did you know this is true and not this?
Like i once said here in nairaland;
Before the missionaries came to africa (including the arabs that imposed
islam on some part of africa)
The african society was diverse, beautiful and morally sane. we had our
own Gods and mythology. The missionaries told us our own gods were
demons but the ones they brought was the real god.
Their god threatened us with hell fire which none of the african gods never
did but yet they are termed the wicked gods.
When will africa fight to preserve our own root, when will africa preserve our
own fast dying and waning cultural heritage.
I can go on forever with words but words only is not enough.

I love the colourful and wonderfully diverse African
MYTHOLOGY and would rather preserve more of it than any jewish or
arabic mythology, let the jews and arabs do that for themselves "I am an
African and am proud of it

koice:
Abrahamist?? So those ones don't qualify as theist... Why??

No understand his point.. those questions are derived from the abrahamic god concept, you cannot expect a traditional religionist or hindhu to answer that... gerrit now?

So the questions are for abrahamic theists e.g judaism, islam, christianity, momonism..

malvisguy212:
do you think no one will hold you accountable for the sins you commit? You don't believe in God soo God will not judge you? This is what psalms 14:1 called foolish.

lol now check this out, and you think those nomadic jewish goat herders that wrote the bible is moraly justified to call anybody fool because dont share their views?... Bro Be good for goodness sake.. be good to others because it is good to be good.
the same bible filled with what can be termed as moral epilepsy, riddled with barbarism, blood, evil, war, rape, slavery, infacticide is your yard stick for morality?

What a human being you are sir i marvel at your morality

malvisguy212:
[size=20]The fool [/size]says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist, but
because he thinks he can get away with
bad moral behavior.

judging from your words now i think its evident enough whose morals are bad... If you are to be the judge will you say me or you?

and here is a selfie of the earth and moon pictured live together.

Its called Earth Rise and it shows our earth is seen in the moon the same way the moon is seen from the earth..

Picture was taken by the apollo 8 space mission 'first manned mission to the moon'

Image credit: www​.nasa.gov

Emusan:
It should be Omniscient not Omnipotent

good nice correction.. you know these omni omni confuse us alot..

Bwon:
read the book of john 20

Read matthew 16:28

SuperSuave:
Great!!! Jupiter and Saturn are somehow scary or is it just me..?
Op, where is pluto?

Pluto is a mini-planet not a main planet.. Many more planets are being discovered in our solar system.

as it is now they are 8main planets the one listed above and 8mini/dwarf planets (pluto belongs here) in our solar system only.

With more facts being uncovered everyday and more discoveries being made, this am sure will improve soon.

neptune

uranus

saturn

jupitar

mars

venus

mercury

ever looked up at the moon and see how spherical, bright and beautiful it is..?
many of the planets mercury, venus, mars, jupitar and even saturn are visble from the earth but due to their immense distance they are often mistaken as stars and may only be distinguishable with the aid of a power telescope.

Ever wondered how the view would be like if the planets were as close as the moon is? clearly it would be a spooky, wonderous, beautiful and necessarily scary sight coming out every night looking at a gigantic spherical ball as the case is with jupitar and saturn.

below are the pictures rendering how the earth would look like if the planets were that close to us...judging from their actual size, brightness and look.

but first and foremost the picture of our moon as viewd from earth.

sonOfLucifer:
You don't get it, do you? Why should I pray? Lucifer needs no worship or prayers. All we seek is within.

And this your concept of lucifer is from where? how did you know about lucifer?

sonOfLucifer:
One with eyes needs no guidance. Only light.

How many of your prayers to satan have been answered?

keep on waiting...

sonOfLucifer:
Do you pray to your God? How often? Does He answer? How are you sure He does? Do you keep a prayer journal? How would you rate his performance? Good, maybe average

Is he, she or it always there for you? Does he hear you when you cry? When your worship him in earnest, has he always shown up for you? Has life gotten better for you?

Forget about the noise. Let go of fear. Take a deep breathe. Pause. Pause. Pause.




Ave Satanas.

..lol.. ok lets start with you as a satanist.. answer all your questions

davien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8ZMMuu7MU

truer words have never been spoken.

Rilwon:
yes i am... rilwayne00.1



No, i want to know your own definition of GoD, For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God.



It is.

You claimed to be an atheist in the OP.

please my statement that i am an atheist in the op is for those that would ask me why i was writing about ATR... if you want to engage me, open a thread and mention me. . i will not reply you on this again

Rilwon:
"What is your definition of God?"



okay congrat

I know you are a muslim, so exactly that your definition of God and everyother similar definitions you can think of.

meanwhile i am not here to talk about theism and atheism kindly open a thread about it and mention me.. please it is not what this thread is about.. thanks

And now malvisguy suddenly know the thought of god towards religion (he hates religion) ever wonder how this malvisguy's god stance against religion is in coincide with malvisguy's recent views on religion.

lol god's view on religion suddenly changed because malvisguy's view on religion changed..

[size=20] I greatly distrust those who know so well what god wants cus i noticed it was always in coincide with their own opinion[/size]

meanwhile :Good start

Rilwon:
Why do you like to be referred to as an "atheist"?

Honestly it's not a tag i love being referred with but since it was a label given to those of us who disbelief the concept of gods as reality seeing none of the claims can be demonstrated. so i kinda dont av any objection being referred to as one.

[b]I am very emotionally attached to africa and the black race as a whole. Being a huge fan of mythology i have dabbled into so many of them both jewish, ugarit, egyptian, greek, roman, mayan, sumerian, african and most especially recently the igbo mythology.

I remember as a young boy being born into a strict christian home, my parents always warned me not to near anything related to masquerade or eating any food used in such ceremonies that it was a big sin and i would go to hell if i did. they even warned me not to eat in one of my uncle's house that the food may have been offered to a pegan god meaning it is sin.

I recall going to confession after eating such food which was irresistible from the huge chunk of meats and fish it was garnished with, i carried the guilt of that supposedly sin for more than 2years.

Growing up, i started reading some historical documents, african mythology and history in general.
I realised that the christian faith my parents were so quick to place above African traditional religion was a recent imported religion.

So many questions began forming in my mind.

a. How did we know the white people were right and our own religion and Gods were false?

b. How is the african religion evil?

c. Why neglect our own mythology and history for the mythology and history of another people.

d. Is it really right to forgo out rich cultural heritage because some white men in white flowing robes said so?

e. What really is peganism and how did it differ from the ancient religions of these other people (arabs and jews) that have been forced down our throat.

I had so many questions, but bringing it up to my parents as a young boy would incur their wrath and allegedly anger God (the christian God).

The african traditional religion have been with africa from the very beginning, in fact one cannot separate the African history from african traditional religion.

It a way our fore-fathers tried explaining the universe and the cosmos and their own little way of doing science; Astrology, arts, music, medicine and remarkably even mathematics.

By separating Africans from african history, the colonial masters forced theirs on us, their religion were imposed on us that today you can see people going to any length to portray these foreign myths as a universal truth, the question is "How did you know this is true and not this?

Like i once said here in nairaland;
Before the missionaries came to africa (including the arabs that imposed islam on some part of africa)

The african society was diverse, beautiful and morally sane. we had our own Gods and mythology. The missionaries told us our own gods were demons but the ones they brought was the real god.

Their god threatened us with hell fire which none of the african gods never did but yet they are termed the wicked gods.

When will africa fight to preserve our own root, when will africa preserve our own fast dying and waning cultural heritage.
I can go on forever with words but words only is not enough.

(N.B: i know many will ask i thought you were an atheist?
Yes very much i am, but i love the colourful and wonderfully diverse African MYTHOLOGY and would rather preserve more of it than any jewish or arabic mythology, let the jews and arabs do that for themselves "I am an African"

[/b]

kayceerilyn:
The world is perfect for the following reasons
1. How can you explain the perfect routine of rotation and revolution?
2. How about the tilt of the earth?
3. How about the nutrients cycle?
4. Or even the distance of earth from the sun?
It will take an intelligent mind which is God

and these are your perfections right?
What about asteroids crashing into planets including earth, what about meteor showers, tonadoes, hurricanes, earth quakes, tsunmis... these are all works of perfection right?