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DProDG:
'Generally accepted' does not mean it won't be scrutinized and attempts at falsifying it won't be made. That's how it works. Opposing hypothesizes don't change it from being gen..accepted.



If the universe is eternal, there is no such thing as 'outside space and time'. It's only possible if time itself had a beginning so you should probably re-evaluate that. 'Outside S and T' is basically just a way of hiding your God.

Anyway, let's not deviate and save that argument for later. I refuted you claims of an eternal universe because they had no backing and still do not. Until a proper model is proposed that not only refutes the decades of evidence supporting the BBT, but explains Dark Matter and Energy, it's just an assumption. Peer-reviewed work, which you haven't been able to cite is what's important(still waiting).


The BBT is not a 'foundation' for evo... whatsoever.


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NB my views change based on evidence presented. There's nothing solid against the current topics we're on so there is no need to assume they are false. Are you willing to give up what you believe in now if sufficient evidence is presented or do think you're infallible?

HumanPsycho:
Oh I used the word 'thought' instead of 'know' for synthax and correctness but actually He simply made a statement like ''let us make man in our own image'' and later he said ''it is not good for the man to be alone'' it was as though he knew already what would be. But the logical flow of the above statement made it obvious he didn't intend to add a female factor to the man. Again his gesture of utilizing a rib from the man shows the simplicity of the female creation, like a sculptor who decided to add an ear to an image created. Biblically speaking everything went to plan until the fall of man.

HumanPsycho:
Your question, as to wheather he created animals male and female?
The answer is Yes. For diversity and recreation.
It is important that you note that God intended to create Man as male alone, unlike other animals where He added female factors, but he thought it would not be good for the man who is of higher thinking to be alone, so he created the woman.

HumanPsycho:
Note that in Genesis, God had the knowledge of a woman all along, he only thought he could create man alone since there is no female factor to his divinity, remember man was created first in his likeness, but seeing the fragility of the man He created woman for companionship as primary aim (this became sole problem of humanity till date). God was and Is perfect alone.

5minsmadness:
apart from the fact that your link starts with calling the genesis story a myth and hence is biased.

5minsmadness:
how does this answer how such early people could figure out the whole evolution process? The creation story follows evolution story, you can just substitute 'days' for 'millions of years' in the way plant and animal life appeared and it would follow uncannily. how is that possible if it is just a story?

5minsmadness:
ah, but you were the one thinking you could use your 'advanced scientific knowledge' to bamboozle me about the evolution of the naked ape

guy why did you leave the catholic church jo?

N.B . . i'm not a fan of evolution, more studies are being carried out on it and it still requires a lot of work and experiment but at least read something before asking questions..

Evolution takes millions of years, you probably need to stick around for that long to witness it.

5minsmadness:
at 100 years for evolution.
You see jonnydon? I know a little more than some of your folks here obviously

5minsmadness:
Of course GOD can create the world in 6days. He is GOD unlimited, HIs powers are waaaay beyond your comprehension! it even marvels me how people belittle him by thinking he only created life on this planet.

i think your problem is you were limited to believing the bible when you were a christian(i could be wrong). the bible doesn't explain everything. in fact it is a very brief summary on what GOD can really do but today Christians take it as all in all which is their main mistake. but just because the bible isn't complete doesn't mean GOD doesn't exist.

5minsmadness:
question for you, have you ever had anything supernatural, non-scientifically explainable happen to you? if you havent then i understand why you wont believe in the supernatural.

5minsmadness:
another question. has it ever bothered you that the ancient creation story seems to follow the process of evolution? How did those illiterate ignorant desert authors like johnydon22 likes to call them know the exact sequence of how things were created?

5minsmadness:
any answers?

jokesmaster:
Atheists Are Simply Brainwashed Fools And Idiots SMH!

5minsmadness:
[size=14pt]hahahahahahahahahaha!!![/size]
you don't know the answer do you?

5minsmadness:
When i tell people you guys are simply copy-pasting your ideas, they dont believe me.
zeus is not referred as god almighty anywhere dude. He was known as the father of the gods.
osiris was never hailed as god almighty but as god of the underworld he was hailed as "king of the living". you should do some reading up yourself bro.

but your cronies wont see this. thats the problem with atheism(almost same as blind christianity). you refuse to learn new things

5minsmadness:
Ok. Sure. that's why all of Jesus disciples preferred to die horrible deaths than deny Christ. because they wanted to propagate their man made idea. Gotcha.

5minsmadness:
oh, sorry, silly me. can you please tell me how long it took for australopecine (the correct term by the way is Australopithecus) to give rise to adipethecus?( correct spelling ardipithecus), humble me with an answer pls.


or lemme wait so you can ask google, you who know so much about science sir.

5minsmadness:
No, the correct thing is "If there was no GOd there wouldnt be atheists. we have had this argument before. show me a single quote in your atheism library against Zeus and I will show you a thousand against God almighty. you know within yourself that this fight is against the almighty, despite the fact you keep trying to show that atheism is anti-all-gods.

5minsmadness:
but that's not what this thread is about, is it? This thread is about atheists having blind faith in non-godism and science, even when science is wrong.




oh, but according to science, humanity has been around for a few million years already. We should have evolved into something else by now as a means of sheer necessity shouldn't we?

of course you'd have reservations about evolution. Too many holes to be punched into. BUT it is a main scientific milestone. so if scientists can be wrong about evolution and even carbon dating, is it possible they can be wrong about the existence of GOD as well?

Misogynist2014:
Maybe you can ask justfollowit as regard to allah, but our discussion is based on lucifer and YHWH or there is nothing worth discussing.

Misogynist2014:
OH, I get your point, yes God is all powerful, but like you said, He 'permits' evil because He has given to all freewill. Those that pass His test would be called Sons of God. Also, God created evil, yes He did! For if a man creates light, he has automaticaly created darkness (light in its zero state) If you create joy, you automatically produce sadness. So did the LORD God create evil because He made good.

davien:
Which is?....saying my mother loves me is different from claiming she is love itself....Plus motherly-love is properly known as maternal affection...

Hiswordxray:
Why didn't your mother just go ahead and forgive your sin instead of punishing you after claiming she loves you.

Misogynist2014:
The Holy Bible of course or you're talking of another book? Cos I think this argument should be limited to Bible.

Misogynist2014:
Okay! I get your question @davien , I know satan is evil because he condones evil and rebellion, while God hates and detests evil and doesn't deal with it lightly.

jes7:
No sir! The burden of proof lies on you. The belief in God had always been. Now you come to tell us God does not exist and you just wants us to believe you just like that? Prove it logically and persuasively if you want us to believe you.

5minsmadness:
[size=14pt]“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton[/size]

5minsmadness:
It is rather interesting how you guys jumped the other questions I asked and zoned in on this one.
atheists not believing in God with such enthusiasm IS a VERY FERVENT BELIEF in itself. All atheists believe in the non-existence of God or gods, and short of a physical contact with such deities, will simply refuse to follow an argument for the existence of a creator. THAT in itself is a firm belief system.

5minsmadness:
as for your second paragraph, has evolution stopped? if yes why? if no why haven't we as humans evolved 4 pairs of hands since we are so busy all the time?

babyshaQ1:
Atheists just don't believe. Atheism is not a belief system. Christianity does not provide answers to questions on how humans or any other thing in nature came to being, neither does any religion and I think it's plain laziness and ignorantly stubborn to attribute gaps in knowledge to any god...at least there are people out there looking for answers and explain unlike those who just hold on to ridiculous stories as an account of creation...why did your god stop creating anyway I'd rather believe my tradition's myth of creation or Oduduwa's story than foolishly believe that we all came from a Jew named Noah

jes7:
I am not trying to prove anything here, I am only responding to the weak argument that says for us to prove there is a creator we have to keep proving there is a creator of the creator. But if you need a prove that God exists, there are many proofs. On the other hand I am very sure you cannot prove that God does not exist.

jes7:
That something is simpler does not make it true. The first level of reasoning is that the world we live in and life itself is a product of intelligence even if you are scared of calling that intelligence God. I think it makes a more intellectual sense to assume we were created than to think we are a mindless product of chance and time. You think of it, is it easier to infer chance anytime we see an information or to infer intelligence? If you see a writing on the floor wishing you happy birthday on you birthday will you say it was just chance that nobody did it? The DNA contains billions of intelligently arranged letters containing very complex information, now tell me chance or intelligence which should be inferred here?