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Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:07am On Mar 22, 2015
LordReed:
Are cars created to kill?

What was Jesus' primary message?
Uuuuuhm you wanna liken cars to biological pathogens now i guesshuh **confused** :-s
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 9:05am On Mar 22, 2015
Ifeann:
Good observation...apparently its Mohammed and his Islamic allah
e don enter were ifeann deh like... oya empiree, tartar9 come and answer.. who dah heck are the WE in ur quran?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Moses Actually The Writer Of Deuteronomy ?? ( Proof ) by johnydon22(m): 9:04am On Mar 22, 2015
Infomizer:
Lol
Funny enough, I don't know where folks got the idea that Moses wrote em books o (I may be mistaken). I see it as one of the many christianity gists spread without biblical basis (e.g Satan rules Hell, Christ was born on the 25th of December, etc.).

I just dey observe...
Bro torah was a jewish compilation probably after the reformation of josiah when the isreali society turned strictly monotheic and the worship of other canaanite pentheon gods like baal, asherah (yahweh's consort/mother), shalem and others and yahweh was lifted and adopted as the supreme god.

It comprises of works by many scribes on the law, mythological history and numerous other fables.

below is a pic i snapped from the new community bible on introduction to the torah.. read and see its obvious moses wrote no shiii

Christianity Etc › Re: Mob Beats Mentally Ill Woman To Death For Burning The Koran In Afghanistan by johnydon22(m): 8:55am On Mar 22, 2015
mujahid1339:
why no one should take the law into their hands.if she was taken to a Sharia court they would have found out she was mad.
what if she was not mad?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Moses Actually The Writer Of Deuteronomy ?? ( Proof ) by johnydon22(m): 8:53am On Mar 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Exodus 17:14 "Then the Lord
instructed Moses, 'Write this down
as a permanent record...'"
Exodus 24:4 "Then Moses carefully
wrote down all the Lord's
instructions."
Exodus 34:27 "And the Lord said to
Moses, 'Write down all these
instructions, for they represents the
terms of my covenant with you and
with Israel.'"
Leviticus 1:1 "The Lord called to
Moses from the Tabernacle and said
to him, 'Give the following
instructions to the Israelites...'"
Leviticus 6:8 "Then the Lord said to
Moses, 'Give Aaron and his sons the
following instructions...'"
Deuteronomy 31:9 "So Moses wrote
down this law and gave it to the
priests."
Deuteronomy 31:24-26 "When
Moses had finished writing down
this entire body of law in a book...
and the law means the whole 5 torah to you? lol this is what you get when adults dont research...
Bros you need to research your own holybook.. the torah was a compilation of works on jewish tradition, laws and mythology written by many unknown scribes in different time frames..
let me just post a pic of the introduction of the pentateuchs by The new community bible

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Moses Actually The Writer Of Deuteronomy ?? ( Proof ) by johnydon22(m): 6:55am On Mar 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Moses did not write chapter 34, God had told Moses that he would not be able to lead the children of Israel into the Promised Land because of his prior disobedience ( Numbers 20:12) and that he would die in Moab. Deuteronomy 34 relates how Moses was allowed to view Canaan from afar before he died.after Moses died the leadership go to Joshua.it is possible that Joshua wrote the end of Moses life or the seventy elders who served under Moses (Exodus 24:9).
excuss me sir! So you actually still think moses wrote the pentateuchs? how old did you say you were againhuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe In Afterlife? by johnydon22(m): 6:48am On Mar 22, 2015
EroticAngelina:
suit urself cheesy believe whatever u wanna believe. like I said in my last post. I will never argue or debate with an atheist. so ciao !
..lol.. cheesy these were actually the most basic questions i asked, i told you it was not an argument just a little answer from you will do smiley But it seems you actually dont know the answers which means you dont fully grasp what you believe in. "Now who is the confused one? grin.

I say again its not a debate or argument just questions smiley
btw its the other way round you are actually the one who is believing what ever you want to believe...The questions are still open sis if you change your mind wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe In Afterlife? by johnydon22(m): 6:43am On Mar 22, 2015
crixtex:
hehehe.. bro... d bible is well ok for me o.. I stumbled upon dat piece on d net noni... well his question pushed me to dat...
lol.. after emperor constantine and some bunch of old men concorted and compiled one reworked fable like that.. I am expected to believe it..funny smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe In Afterlife? by johnydon22(m): 6:39am On Mar 22, 2015
EroticAngelina:
I won't answer ur question. not because I can't answer it, but because it is useless and stupiid of me to argue or debate with an atheist. smiley
but, here is something u should ponder on: How are u in existence? who created u? u didn't just appear on this earth like that, did u?
that's where amma stop smiley
The answer to your question is very simple. "My Mum gave birth to me because my dad's spermatozone fused with my mum's ovum to form a zygot which i found to me when i recognized consciousness"

Now please dont shy away its not an argument i only wanted to ask you a question.
How did you know their is a god ?

If the universe cant exist on its own without a god then your god still shouldnt exist on its own it must need another god who still must need another and so the chain of infinite regress continues

Why do you think your god is the right one and not 4,999 others that humanity worship?

How did you know their is an afterlife?
smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe In Afterlife? by johnydon22(m): 6:30am On Mar 22, 2015
crixtex:
Download d gospel of nicodemus and see....
so the gospels weh deh the bible is no longer enough for you, now its gnostic gospels. well dont stop there.

Read gospel of judas iscariot
gospel of philip
gospel of barnabas
gospel of thomas and hundreds more..
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe In Afterlife? by johnydon22(m): 6:28am On Mar 22, 2015
Sometimes the bible in hand of one man is worse than a bottle of whisky in the hands of another, that you will see people who have not learnt to live this one chance of life we have and have not finished living it, selfishly and greedily clamoring for another..

When you understand where you before you were (unexistence) then you already know exactly where you will be when you die (unexistence). . You are fvcking dead!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe In Afterlife? by johnydon22(m): 6:24am On Mar 22, 2015
EroticAngelina:
Yes! I do believe in after life.
Im a christian, so i believe.
As lng as there is life on earth, good things nd bad things, there z a God. And if there z a God, then there z an after life. And where we go after we die is determined by the things we do here on earth. and u cnt argue with me on this, coz nobdy, nt even science/tech has been able to prove anything on that. its a simple fact

Thats why i pity atheists(or whatever they r called) those people who do nt believe in God/god. i call them confused people smiley
Confused huh? wink
Ok let us see who is confused now..

How did you know their is a god?
Christianity Etc › Re: Hardened Heart: Did Pharaoh have a Choice ?? by johnydon22(m): 6:21am On Mar 22, 2015
Sanchez01:
There's a secret unknown to many yet; God can keep a man to make an example of him in the positive or the negative part of it. God knew Pharoah and He knew he wouldn't back down easily due to his stubborn nature. The concept here is simple; a stubborn man is fuelled by stubbornness the more so as to be made an example. The same was used on Judas Iscariot. He was greedy and had been a long time before meeting Jesus and he was fuelled by a greater greed which mapped out God's plan, just like Pharoah mapped out God's plan as well.
so the pheroh was a sturborn man then god made matters worse by hardening his heart more, i thought men had freewill.. whose fault was this exactly when the pheroh was just a pawn in the game ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Penal Substitution: Jesus Didn't Die In Place Of Anyone. by johnydon22(m): 6:19am On Mar 22, 2015
Ubenedictus:
i actually liked your comment because I think you have great sense of humour, even though i don't think joking about other peoples beliefs is cool, anyway, I think you'll agree that believing a God that practices favourism is bad enough adding saddist and self hating to the list just makes it worse.

Besides, i do not believe God showed preferential treatment to the Isrealites, i have a pretty bad analogy for it, I'm sure you are aware that before a drug is brought to the open market it is first tried on a small controlled population, would you describe the doctors as been preferential for giving a few people his good drug while allowing others to die?
Well I wouldn't. he covenants before Jesus were preparatory, if you like call it trials drugs, an exibition that prepares the world for salvation, the "preferential treatment" started with a household, d guy d bible calls Noah, a generation with abraham and a nation with moses, those were all steps so that at the right time the whole world may be save through Christ.

It is a bad anology but i think it sticks for a time.
and this was exactly how i started... Don't worry you will realize all you seek soon enough smiley
Science/Technology › Re: Signs Of Water In Jupiter's Moon by johnydon22(op): 6:09am On Mar 22, 2015
dabosuker:
i once told someone that i would be willing to volunteer to hit the red planet , even if i might not be able to return . the experience alone would be off course out of this world grin...reporting back to the ISS or NASA on the findings on the red planet instead of using rovers/probes..
in fact back then i wanted to study astronomy , but since that was not available in Nigeria universities, & daddy wasn't sending me abroad, i settled to the closest i could find to get me out of earth...GEOLOGY...that way i could easily become a planetary geologist and pursue those thoughts in my head smiley smiley
bro google search Mars One, enter their website and see if their is anything you can find.. who knows you might still get to go to the red planet by 2025 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:39am On Mar 22, 2015
sammy187:
Saw this online.
LOL for me, am gona live my life for me and not with what some ancient primitive desertic men that have 0 in morality scale wrote and asked me to follow..

I'd rather follow my reason smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:25am On Mar 22, 2015
sammy187:
Meaning 90% of the Bible translations and interpretation are wrong. Please shed more light which Bible is correct and which is incorrect?

Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:08am On Mar 22, 2015
swaggzo:
My parents?
I owe no one any apologies my dear.
My mum used to hit me when I was around 9 for asking questions.
Ma guy some cartoons are even more realistic than some Christian doctrines especially Catholic.
All of them na the same thing... imagine a christian calling a muslim delusional for expecting 72virgins in heaven, while he is expecting a golden mansion and white robes...delusion calling another delusion.. we see that alot here in nairaland

Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 12:05am On Mar 22, 2015
swaggzo:
When it comes to Christianity.. I would say I'm a solid one.
But sometimes we all just need to stop walking blindly, reason and ask questions on if the path you threading on is really the right one.
all of us were once there so i understand your remaining sentimental attachment to you religion. You still havent realized/accepted if fully but dude you are there already

Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 11:58pm On Mar 21, 2015
swaggzo:
he could have destroyed Adam and eve, and create new beings and try to help them to not disobey him next time. hahaha
Christianity has made us to believe God made all the things and he lets things happen for a reason. what reason?




Christians will say the reason is best known to him alone.
But I Wonder why he sounded really be bitter when Adam and Eve disobeyed him.
He intentionally kept the tree there and told them to not touch it.
he knew they would touch, and instead of preventing them from touching it he left them to touch it, only to come back to claim they "disobeyed" him and must suffer terribly for eating an apple.
why would he choose to say they disobeyed him when he originally planned all the events?


There's God (yahweh) the creator, there's Jesus, there's a Holy Spirit.
There's God (Odin), there's Thor, There's Loki.
There's God (Zeus), there's posiedon, there's Hades.
There's God (Horus), there's Isis, there's Venus and the rest
There's God (Chineke,) there's amadioha, there's ikenga.
... and so on.
All these things are deities formed by different cultures to guild and govern the morals of its people in order to maintain a healthy society. There's really no need fighting over an entirely wrong issue.
Welcome to atheism my friend.. smiley a tip from me "Never let your parents know or you are so going to a pastor for deliverance and the kind hate your people go hate you eeeh, you go see say them worse pass boko haram..
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Question For Christians And Creationists? by johnydon22(m): 11:51pm On Mar 21, 2015
swaggzo:
God Knew all these things would happen but he still left the tree in the garden until Adam ate it.
it implies he created this beautiful world with the aim of letting all these terrible things continue to cause massive damage to his beautiful works until the end.
I'm a Christian and this is what Christianity wants me to believe.
I don't need to be supernatural to know that Christianity is eternally stupiid.
Eternally stewpid hahahahahahaha very funny.. abeg them get eternal stewpidity?
Dude am not sure you are still a christian... Btw those stuffs are just jewish myth and people actually want to force it down your throat that its true..lmao.

Your reason just broke free, keep on thinking for yourself

Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 11:46pm On Mar 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
the devil has already killed you but you can resurrect if you believe in Jesus christ, this may be your last chance.tomorrow may be too late. Good night my good friend.
Hahahahahahahaha abi.. no be small thing..really pathetic..

am sure you know the muslims say you are going to hell cus you dont believe in God (allah) so see you in hell bro grin

Devil ko? another myth...

Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 11:18pm On Mar 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
if this is what is troubling you, remember God made a vow never to destroyed the world with water again but with brimstones and fire, if you did not repent, your own will be worse than the people in the picture you upload.
lol oooh am scared oooo shocked ewooo my legs are shaking.. lmao so ur god is even planning to do more than he already done after drowning millions of people now its fire..Seems this your god loves killing things horribly no wonder. . As barbaric and saddistic as the jews that invented it.. how come the devil doesnt kill the way this ur god does? grin

Just see how christianity have finished you with fear... fear of burning brimestone. see ya life?

[size=20] A theist threatening an atheist with hell is like a little child telling an adult that fairies wont give them candy [/size]

TV/Movies › Re: Avatar The Last Airbender And Legend Of Korra Lovers by johnydon22(op): 11:10pm On Mar 21, 2015
[size=20] Here is the link to avatar the last airbender comic THE PROMISE http://www.readmanga.eu/manga/11906/Avatar-The-Last-Airbender-The-Promise/1/1 Click the image to move to the next page.. enjoy..!!! [/size] smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 11:03pm On Mar 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
muslims are killing because the quran not teach moral value, but no where in the bible Jesus command us to killed. This is what I paste;
The teachings of the
Bible
emphasize values such as honesty,
love,
forgiveness, patience, and
generosity.
Many of these values are not
emphasized in social circles
dominated
by atheists

Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 10:40pm On Mar 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
Christians are far more likely than
atheists to be part of groups that work
hard to instill values about being good to
other people, and having good
relationships. The teachings of the Bible
emphasize values such as honesty, love,
forgiveness, patience, and generosity.
Many of these values are not
emphasized in social circles dominated
by atheists.
Importance of moral values
A survey of 1,600 Canadians asked them
what were their beliefs about God and
what moral values they considered to be
"very important." The results of the
survey are shown below:
Moral Values of Theists vs.
Atheists
Moral Value
Theists
Atheists
Honesty
94%
89%
Kindness
88
75
Family life
88
65
Being loved
86
70
Friendship
85
74
Courtesy
81
71
Concern for others
82
63
Forgiveness
84
52
Politeness
77
65
Friendliness
79
66
Patience
72
39
Generosity
67
37
Although the differences between theists
and atheists in the importance of values
such as honesty, politeness, and
friendliness are generally small, moral
values emphasized by religious beliefs,
such as Christianity, including patience,
forgiveness, and generosity exhibit major
differences in attitudes (30%+
differences between theists and atheists)
.
What really concerns me is that only half
of atheists think that forgiveness is very
important. Either these people have not
been married or maybe married multiple
times, since a lack of forgiveness in a
marriage is a sure recipe for disaster.
Couple that moral belief with a
perception that neither patience nor
generosity are very important, and it
seems that the divorce rates are likely to
go up significantly in the near future.
According to Professor Bibby, Grandma is
the "symbolic saintly person in the clan.
So valuing Grandma also means valuing
many of the things important to her. In
successive generations you have a
lingering effect of morality. But further
down the road generations get further
removed from the sources of those
values. That's where it gets tricky."
lmao... funnycheesy We really are seeing the theist moral values as muslems are blowing themselves and every other person up, slitting throats, reeking harvoc on planet earth, when only 1.5% of american prisoners are atheist, and i need not tell you how Christian militia almost wiped out all the muslims in central africa republic..smh...Lmao am loving your lies tho..

How ironic the biggest charitable human on earth is bill gates an atheist grin.anyway am not here to defend anyone tho just stop applyin fallacy to try make a point, that is not even moral too smiley... But am i supposed to read all that? when will you stop this your copy and paste? anyway i say it again "Be good for goodness sake"

Science/Technology › Re: Signs Of Water In Jupiter's Moon by johnydon22(op): 10:34pm On Mar 21, 2015
dabosuker:
we can argue here as long as it is constructive, no name calling, respect the other man, but lets also not change the thread o.
Now am a christian , but seriously that book (Bible) must have been written by ignorant men, pay attention to it, but not too much attention. e.g when you see heavens in the bible, it means skyyyyyyyyy o.the heavens meant the sky.
Yes God must be ET. confirmed! he is not of the earth. rockets & space shuttles may have been miss understood & called chariots of fire. (think about it). imagine john seeing a rocket blasting off with fumes & flames & all that trembling like we experience to day in any given runway or airfield. those folks miss understood.
when ever NASA is ready to drop humans on mars i would want to volunteer, i wont be able to tell what sort of experience it would be to look back at earth from space or walk the dusty rocks of the red planet, chai! it would give a whole new perspective to life. that brings me to religion once again,.........The Vatican came out in 2008 through the chief scientist of the Vatican observatory say they would be open to the existence of ETs, that the existence of ETs, should not conflict with the beleive in God. if you ask me , that was a smart move, because whether we like it or not, the presence of ETs or evidence of life or life existence else apart from earth would question & do damage to religion , and the Vatican city no that in their minds & they also know it wont be long before NASA or some other group or body makes an announcement especially with the increased progress in exploration .
And yes i beleive in UFOs too, i beleive we have been visited in past & those visitations are still happenening. grin
if really all you said is true (tho i dont believe them but let me take on the discussion from your view)

If this god god they yarp about is an extra-terrestrial, or chariots of fire are rockets and all that, it means that you are not dealing with any omni-scient all powerful being or beings here but just a bunch of other intelligent life forms... lol this is mormonism and scientology that claims god is an ET.

While other religions claim it is spirit that exist outside space and time.. Theism is really funny...

Anyway bro Mission Mars one is not until 2025 so i guess you can still make it to mars.

About finding extra-terrestrial am sure humans are THIS close and when that happens, Hhmmm belief in gods and religion will be severed badly..
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Mysterious Alledgedly Alien Artifacts by johnydon22(m): 10:25pm On Mar 21, 2015
Nice ones but with all these all we still have is theories (conspiracy tho)..
nobody is certain and so the issue of UFO are not proven facts yet.

I know finding extra-terrestrial life is very possible, but all this alien visiting earth is one i do not fully grasp.. I once read a book **Earth mysteries ** it claimed that life on earth must have originated from another planet probably mars. that ancient mayan slabs have been discovered that states "I we moved to the planet from our home in a flying boat" That is just some guy's conspiracy theory and wishful thinking i guess till scientist finally give us a positive result on.alien life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Please Make Me Understand Better. by johnydon22(m): 9:56pm On Mar 21, 2015
5minsmadness:
see hin head like coconut! grin
why did you leave catholic church?




abeg when you set up the thread send me the link smiley
Hit the science section sharpaly https://www.nairaland.com/2209258/auroras#31868175 smiley
Science/Technology › Re: Auroras by johnydon22(op): 9:53pm On Mar 21, 2015
Dioxidane:
@OP, why can't it happen in Nigeria?
Auroras are caused by the interaction of earth's magnetic field with particles
from the sun. . . the earth magnetic fields are strongest at the north and south poles, and africa is neither near any of them. We are near the equator, aurora occuring in africa or Nigeria is almost impossible.. thats why we never get to see them here while they happen many times in artantica, australia, even canada and many other places near the poles.
Science/Technology › Re: Auroras by johnydon22(op): 9:46pm On Mar 21, 2015
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