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frankmishael1:
my prayer has been answered, month end for u

frankmishael1:
don't ask me' if u insult my God u will go for it by death, do u want to test my God?

frankmishael1:
now i know ur stand: month end then

frankmishael1:
answer the question u want to die this month with him? do u want to test my God?

Ifeann:
Apparently u expect him to memorise all the quran and hadith passages. I have a list of christain, passages, quotes and even quran passages etc I compile because of convenience and accuracy purposes.

Dude ur mischievous , "lolzz" u often include in ur comments depict u as an immature teenager whose intention seems to incite heated debates rather than actually learn something.

To start with u didn't quote the verse which says Mohammed slept with a child. U should be more scholarly as a skeptic.

I have been hearing about muhammed marrying aisha at the age of 6 and
consummating the marriage when she was 9..
My question is, Do you think this very act of the
prophet (muhammed) was right or moral..?
Would you give away your sister or daughter to
an older man in marriage at that tender age?
In your capacity as a human, do you think you
can do this same very act of marrying a 6year
old and consummating it when she is still as
young as 9?
sincere answers pls and no insults cus no harm was intended...

Ifeann:
I cut it out because I am not interested in goin around in circles(if u are chose to be redundant in ur questions then I will refuse to reply) plus I am watching the news( Muslims just killed a bunch of folks in a museum at Tunisia)..multitasking.

Let's go back to what you said.



[size=20]Yes he knew that they would not change but was patient nonetheless..[/size] remember I have mentioned this to u in that post u said was too looong to read.. I spend time writing this, the least u can do is read it.

“Know for certain that your offspring will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs and will be servants there, and they will be afflicted for four hundred years. . . . And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites [one of the Canaanite clans] is not yet complete”(Gen. 15. 13, 16).

If u read the bible when u were a christain u will realize something, God emphasizes time. Its safe to say that God has a plan with a timetable/ schedule. U can also notice this of Jesus. He emphasized time a lot, inculding his 3 days in the tomb..so God had his reasons for the 400 year grace period perhaps to save those that rejected the wicked culture of the amorites.



Finally, yes, we are made up of "matter" eg cells, muscles etc) and a soul - which atheists reject, that's the difference..

wordcat:
Honestly, even Nigerian Govt as bad as it is can't punish children down to a generation for their fathers' sins.

Buhari jailed some people up to 300yrs imprisonment WITHOUT touching their children.

Why is yahweh so mean and wicked at the same time?

Ifeann:
My point exactly.. Its called freewill.

Christainity is beautiful, I have no problem with ancient Jewish history.

if u feel u are better as an atheist that's ur cup of tea, u are an adult.

I find the words of Christ timeless and beautiful and I learn a lot from reading the bible.. I don't need to be frightened by hell fire, or desire riches to worship God..
I love Christs message, and sometimes counter intuitive approach to issues, his love and compassion is brilliant, his wisdom also. I look forward to serving God in spirit and in truth and bask in his glory and worship him in a higher state.

U and most atheists believe u are just a mass of cells and will become soil food after death. Its ur decision to believe this, I will invite u to Christ its left for u to reject or accept. what I won't tolerate is a totalitarian ideology which wants to behead those that don't believe in an Islamic allah.

Ifeann:
I was refering to Johnny the atheist... He is entitled to say what ever he wishes, whether right or wrong...I believe he is wrong. It is left to the reader to also decide for him/herself.

I have every right to discuss Islam, Hinduism, atheism, socialism, capitalism etc , u have every right to discuss what u see in the bible, torah, quran, maxisim, communism etc


I also want to point out to u that I do more of discussing Islam than passing judgment on it. Islam condemns itself just fine.

Ifeann:
Ur English is really difficult to undertstand. Contain ur excitement and type properly.

Firstly I never said they changed after 400 years, they didn't. Have no idea why u said this;



If u have taken ur time to study the bible for an honest critic, u will see God is patient and Can be said to work with a timetable or a schedule.. Jesus was sent to humans at the exact time God wanted. The amorites were given enough time to change, my assumptions is that some amorites will get uncomfortable with the evil practises of their culture and migrate and hence get saved..just as millions of Muslims renounce Islam.

Ngasky:
simple question what is the politically correct age of marriage?

kadas01:
Seek and ye shall find!

Ngasky:
morality doesnt mean the same thing to all cultures or nationality. The issue of marriage is different from community to community. Or are you telling me your parents and g/parents are immoral?
Even in the England and European royal houses they used to do the same thing. Does that mean immoral? Nowadays things are changing.
On the moral issue do you belive nature is immoral by making girls to reach puberty early?
What age is the right age to marry on your conscience and remember to change nature to suit that age.
It is just like the sunrise to sunset which is 7 am to 7pm in Nigeria but can be 5am to 10pm in london in certain season

kadas01:
There is life after death! This is very real as well as very true!

This World is a school where we have all come to mature spiritually and we have to go back to the great Beyond when we depart this World, depending on our level of spiritual maturity!

goshap:
yea yea yea, hit me "i get your time today".

goshap:
seriously!, now am really mad.

Ifeann:
Dude my comments are not in anyway comparable to the muslim thirst for blood. Whereas the muslim quran contains prescribed commands of murder and jihad , the Old testament contains description of Jewish history.. I am just giving u my view on the event that happened thousands of years ago and is not sanctioned by christainity. Remember I am not an ancient Jew.

Muslims kill infidels because they believe everyone is born a muslim so killing babies born to nonmuslims will take them to baby paradise for their baby 72 virgins. And adult infidels don't deserve to live.

Christianity is all about love and the bible is a collection of manuscripts containing Old law, Jewish history and the gospels as well as God's words.

Ifeann:
U asked;



From my reply, clearly my answer is yes and I gave a detailed reason why..


You also said this, apparently u have forgotten.


I decided to start with one of those verses that described the destruction of the cannaite clans eg amorites.


If u think the great flood was a myth then we have no issues here, do we? If u are addressing me, a theist then be polite enough not to call it a myth. Not cool dude.

swisschris:
Because this nuisance can just come into repentance one day nd God wiltl forget that at one point the human was cursng the creator

LucemFerre:
Genesis 20
5. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, PUNISHING THE CHILDREN FOR THE SIN OF THE PARENTS TO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATON OF THOSE WHO HATE ME
6. but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments

And we're supposed to shut da fuc|< up because... Romans 9:20 says
No, don't say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, "Why have you made me like this?"

And Isaiah 55...

8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
    neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
    so are my ways higher than your ways
    and my thoughts than your thoughts.
10 As the rain and the snow
    come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
    without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
    so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,
11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:
    It will not return to me empty,
but will accomplish what I desire
    and achieve the purpose for which I sent it

Answered

"Know thy enemy" ~Sun Tzu

tartar9:
you see,if ISIS didn't behead those children they would have grown into Infidels and later ending up in Hell

johnydon22:
Reading about jewish mythology, the God portrayed there can be call to be very irrational, barbaric, saddistic, blood thirsty and [size=20] infacticidal [/size]

One example is the flood myth as found both in the bible and quran...
The whole world was bad except for one man, as impossible as this is let me ignore it and assume it to be so..
Then my question now is [size=20] What about the little children were they bad too or is it that they just don't count? ... it beats me to fathom how a sane minded person would subject millions of children to such a horrible death as drowning and for what? what they don't even have any idea of [/size]

The sodom and gomorrah mythology, yahweh was looking for 10 good people and he will spare the city, but he didn't consider the millions of children in that city...my question is [size=20] doesn't the children count? what sort of monster would rain fire upon innocent children just to punish wicked ones? [/size] are the millions of children that should be in sodom and gomorrah not enough to spare the city? don't they outnumber 10 good people by millions?

They are many verses and examples that can be hewn from the bible, killing every inhabitants of a city including women and children, dashing infants on rocks. . . Seems this jewish deity or should i say (abrahamic deity on a wider scale) do not seem to care about children..

[size=20] Don't the little innocent children count?? [/size]

Ifeann:
I don't think I implied no freewill.. I believe we have freewill and at the same time God is all knowing.

Ifeann:
“As I live, says the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live”(Ez. 33.11).

The bible tells the reader that God does not delight in the death of the wicked. He gave the amorites 400 years of Grace to change, being ominipotent my guess is that God knew that they will not change but he was not quick to bring his judgement upon them.

Here is his message to Abraham;
“Know for certain that your offspring will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs and will be servants there, and they will be afflicted for four hundred years. . . . And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites [one of the Canaanite clans] is not yet complete”(Gen. 15. 13, 16).


So for 400 years the amorites continued in their iniquity and villainy. Babies where born who grew up to follow the evil footsteps of their parents. For 400 years, its fair to say this people made up their mind to be evil as a culture.


Think of it! God stays His judgement of the Canaanite clans 400 years because their wickedness had not reached the point of intolerability! This is the long-suffering God we know in the Hebrew Scriptures. He even allows his own chosen people to languish in slavery for four centuries before determining that the Canaanite peoples are ripe for judgement and calling His people forth from Egypt.


By the time of their destruction, Canaanite culture was, in fact, debauched and cruel, embracing such practices as ritual prostitution and even child sacrifice. The Canaanites are to be destroyed“that they may not teach you to do according to all their abominable practices that they have done for their gods, and so you sin against the Lord your God”(Deut. 20.18).

God had morally sufficient reasons for His judgement upon Canaan, and Israel was merely the instrument of His justice, just as centuries later God would use the pagan nations of Assyria and Babylon to judge Israel.

People have a misconception about God's approach to justice. He is forgiving, loving but he is also just.

simplex2:
Its 5-days + and we're still waiting for the epic come-back.

Thats what you get when you start displaying your ignorance in a public forum. We were trying to contain you in our thread but you decided to head to the market to start this thread.

davien:
he seems to think that from the beginning of time,solar eclipses didn't happen on that day..