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hopefulLandlord:
seriously I don't ;P

Have a look


https://m.facebook.com/citysilchar/photos/a.634346886610391.1073741828.634341783277568/1300924903285916/?type=3

hopefulLandlord:
seriously I don't ;P

Asin eeehn...

And you were just busy writing an epistle, going round and round

God catch you naa...

hopefulLandlord:
in the movie Law Abiding Citizen, Jamie fox's character told Gerrard Butler's character Its not what you know, its what you can prove in court

I think rape is a very sensitive issue that's very hard to prove in court provided both the accused and the plaintiff have the same level of legal backing

The stigma attached to being raped is pretty bad in a place like Nigeria. Most men don't want to date let alone marry a girl who's accused a man of rape before, that he was eventually found guilty is inconsequential, I'll avoid such girls too unless I'm very sure such a girl was raped for real and a court ruling won't cut it for me I'm afraid since my faith in our justice system is pretty low

Most rape usually involve someone the victim trusts. The idea of rape the movies show us of a woman walking in a dark alley and getting jumped by a sunglass wearing meth addicts brandishing weapons and ordering the girl to cooperate or be killed are very very rare
Most rape cases involve a friend, family members, family friends, boyfriend, colleagues etc which hands all the disadvantages to the victim as her emotional side may take over cuz she might actually be trying to protect the suspect
These are some of the reasons rape victims usually just get on with their lives like nothing happened and hope to get over it with time

Back to your question, What's the solution? TBH its a very difficult question to give a straight answer to but I'd recommend women who are seeing signs that a man could possibly force them and they can't avoid contact with such a woman should hit the sound recorder on their phone whenever they're with such "men" and try to get as much evidence as they can cuz rape is not an easy thing to prove

And the end of the day, after all
the sermon you have no idea what the solution is..

hopefulLandlord:
are accused usually condemned by default in Nigeria? forgive my ignorance

This answer is starkly unreconcilable with the question. The question is, how do we solve this?

And highlighted condemning the accused by default as an option.

Asking me if the accused are usually condemned by default in Nigeria is non sequitor to my question and unfortunately does not follow.

So I ask again.

How do we solve this?

Rapists must be punished, we must also be careful not to punish the innocent.

So his do we solve this?

hopefulLandlord:
What!!!!!!

"Tear and Sperm"? what does that do exactly? all it proves is that he had sex with you, nothing more!!!

Tear does happen during normal sex, Tear may not happen during rape

The only way this can "prove" (to a reasonable extent) rape is if he denied and kept denying having sex with you in the first place but most rape cases usually involves the accused claiming the sex was consensual while the accuser says its not

This doesn't still proffer a solution to the problem.

How do we solve this?

Condemn the accused by default?

JMAN05:
There must be.

See you are not even getting it

Why?

Under what principle is this conclusion based.

The bang could not come from something visible.

How did we arrive at this?

Again

Does invisibility connote unnatural?

The result of the bang points to an intelligent cause.

Moon craters also points to intelligent cause due to geometrical projections but it's causes is far fromit.

This doesn't prove the existence of the xten God. But it at least points to an invisible and intelligent cause.

How?

On which cosmological principle is this conclusion hinged. How did we get from point A to "then there must have been an invisible intelligence"?

So a belief in a supernatural cause isn't unreasonable.

You have been grossly insufficient to explain its reasonability

Since science can't experiment the supernatural, they should not think there is no God who could cause the bang.

Since we have no way to know supernatural truly is, to assume is to be unreasonable because this assumption would be purely imagined.

So the best answer remains " You have no idea"

Not assume the supernatural must exists because science cannot verify.

I can then also propose an even bigger hypernatural that precedes and caused the supernatural.

And then also assume a bihypernatural plain that caused the hypernatural.

See?

That is the problem with argument from ignorance and assumption to fill the gap clutch.

You can always assume something else or the whole argument would collapse on itself.

we play too much in this country.. This is not good at all naaa

ycee right now

Tohzara:
Lol. Those women in the west are becoming crazy. They've turned feminism into a bitter campaign against the male gender. Their feminism is full-blown MISANDRY! God help Western men.

Third wave feminsim have been the biggest weapon against feminsim. it has completely blurred the line between feminism and misandry that both are no longer inseparable.

Hahaha. I think women should do same. It'll make it easier to prove rape cases.

One of the implications of this is that Male employers no longer employ female job seekers out of fear of getting their careers ruined. The relationship between men and women have been severed so much that i fear it will get worse.

The worst part is: Third wave feminism rides on the back of women being victims so even when there is no such case, they create one. Just take the women in those videos for example.

These two will still come and chant #MeToo

it has revealed the feminists obsession with victimhood that ironically they mistake as empowerment

Shugavee:
b4 nko!! Will i be waiting 4 u to find sense first

teach me how to have sense with your top notch civility, logical argumentative layouts and not uncouth mesh of insults cooked with poor grammar.

we play too much in this country

Am alright dear!! Think abt urself!

I will be fine..

Tohzara:
Lol. Your father, brother(s), and the morön (boyfriend) that hosts a parasite like you are all scum. All as worthless as every other male in your family.

No. they are not. Her father, brother, boy friend have nothing to do with her unstable mental state, leave them out of it.

If men are scum, you're scum as well---because you're a product of sperm. Fücking retãrd.

Don't take this too serious, i have seen worse.

It's not my fault that you were raped by your dad. That doesn't give you the right to call men rapists.

Unfair assumption, most likely untrue. I don't support this.

Calm down brother

And as per your last statement, human history tells me that men have been more relevant to the universe than women. Go figure.

Last last the universe doesn't even know we are here. it's a ginormous indifferent cosmos

Shugavee:
smh mtcheww!!

Last last you will be all right sweetheart

Shugavee:
cry me a river!! Men r scums.

Well you are equal to men, what does that make you sweetheart?

n most r rapist!! If u like kill urself e no go change price of garri 4 market!!

I try to sympathize with people who sound like you, there is an underlying pain behind this and i hope you will heal.

last last you will be all right, just drink water

Thats how irrelevant u r to the universe!!!

Darwinian evolution will take care of this... Ask me how?

AnonyNymous:
If a girl is raped. . . an examination by a doctor can easily tell if its done immediately after the abuser is done. The person you're quoting isn't very intelligent.

A lot of girls also don't know the difference between sexual harassment and rape.

And, a lot of girls (especially in the West) also lie a lot about sexual harassment. Here's a video of a crazy feminist telling a man he's "harassing her" because he said 'hello' while going about his business.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c07k33O4aAU

This one is even worse. I find this one particularly funny, especially because of the guy's reaction. The funniest part is that she recorded it herself, and originally shared it as 'evidence', only for her to get backlash/people reuploading it making fun of her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MVyQNNFobA

If I ever have to work where I will be alone with a woman, I MUST make sure I am either recording/taking pictures throughout the time spent. If it means installing cameras in my car or spending money on a wristwatch that can record videos, so be it.

it is becoming absurd, the videos shows just how demented some girls have gone. Third wave feminism have somehow cultivated a victims culture. Women are made to see themselves as perpetual victims of some form of male induced oppression.

And the irony is that these women with these toxic ideas fight and argue they are not weak or vulnerable at the same time use the victim, weak and vulnerable card to their advantage.

The victims culture is running too deep now, every woman now is a victim of the most absurd offenses conceivable.

Have you heard of the term "Reverse rape"? if a woman wants to have sex with a man and he refuses then he is guilty of reverse rape. he used his advantage as the stronger individual to deny her what she wants.

it is getting just too absurd

i fail to see the logic behind an empowerment that makes women see themselves as perpetual victims and men as vindictive monstrous beings that always mean ill against women.

guys guys please easy. it's obvious emotions are raging and getting the best out of people. To argue is to have a stone heart, the emotions will crop up but don't argue with that

Shugavee:
exactly my dear!! Not all men kwa?? But all men indulge in victim blaming!! All men are not the same my bom bom!! They always find the loopholes n call them liars

You are not really smart at all. Your view of reality is upside down. Change your damn location or the men around you

Daeylar:
I'm surprised too. The way he said it as if anybody believes rape victims in the first place or takes them seriously?

Oh they are believed in most cases, we get to see some of these cases of conviction and even jungle justice on rapist almost daily on Nairaland front page.

And moreover rape enabling is disgusting and we are all well against that, blaming the victim also is a disgusting act that we all condemn but this mustn't be mistaken with asking the right questions in a bid to scrutinize a case.

They even start attacking the victim, why did you go here, why did you wear this, stupid asinine questions that make me feel like slapping hell out of them

Who are they?

A time is coming? Which time? Time we are already living in?

No you are not. Simply walk outside, grab any random man and shout he raped you and watch him get mobbed or even lynched to death. People are more likely to believe your story and sympathize with you.

That is just a little demonstration to test the validity of this claim.

A woman or man who says he or she was raped isn't believed and in some cases is even insulted,

Is it not the same victim blaming Nigeria again?

Wrong again. Is it not this same Nigeria that we see rapists and alleged rapists almost getting lynched to death, let us not treat this like a one faced knife. It is not.

Let everybody tell their story, provide evidence, go to court,
If the guy actually raped the girl then he goes to jail,
It should be taken seriously, any one found guilty should go to jail, I also recommend castration,

100% agreed

If the girl is lying she goes to jail, by the time many fools that will want to try it see the number of people in jail for false rape accusations they'll think twice and also the Man's name must be cleared.

Equal punishment. I agree again

Rape is not a joke nor something to be thrown around when it's not true.

Sexual violence is a heinous thing and we must always condemn perpetrators or enablers. Women who label innocent men rapists just because they want to win a disagreement are violent, vile human beings too & we must condemn them too.

[color=Blue] And finally, a time should never ever come whereby no one should believe rape accusations. What!!!?

Why is it that any thing stupid some women do is used as ammo to try and attack all women?, What kind of threat is that? No one will believe any woman?

Wrong conception of an argument stemming from hasty conclusion. The post in no way condemns or blames all women, an implication of an action is not condemnation.

from the post
This will be very unfortunate as it will be unfair to actual rape victims.

the post highlighted possible implications of using rape accusations as a weapon to get back at someone

If it's you men they attack with this kind of nonsense, you all will rush to type it's not all men, remember your father and all the rubbish,

Non sequitor stemming from your own misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the argument

Mtchewww, you men feel so special in this country,

Oh No we don't. There is no right that i have that you don't in the constitution

Instead of addressing the problem of rape and false accusations of rape and looking for solutions, you're giving ridiculous threats, trash.

Again another gross misrepresentation and understanding: highlighting implications of a line of action is not a threat.

If humanity continues making nuclear weapons a time will come when we will destroy civilization. This is not a threat.

Learn the difference between a threat and highlight of possible consequence

Whether you believe or not is not needed, all you need to do is make sure the case is taken to court and make sure the truth comes out,
Whoever is lying should be punished, either the man or woman,

We agree again

Not sitting there trying to take laws into your own hands, typing ridiculous threats like "it will get to a time no one will believe rape accusations from women". [/color]

You have no idea what it means to threaten someone

Shugavee:
rape cases are most times her words over mine thats why rapist hv the guts to continue cause there will surely be questions lingering if she was lying n the rapist will act on that!!! Combined with the stigma that goes with it 4 d lady!!! Just few cases evidences are seen!! So are u implying the once with out evidence are lies Oh please!!

We are forgetting the stigma that comes with being accused of rape? Do you know that can literally destroy not just a career but a man's life. We must treat rape cases with much urgency as it deserves and thorough scrutiny because the blade goes either way.

Proudgorgeousga:
They give reasons why whatever occurred shouldn't be considered rape.

I do believe rape has an objective definition

back to the example you cited in your post you are trying to imply that the lady saying the taxify driver tired to rape her was deliberately lying. well if a man drives me to an unknown location and tries to dragged me out the first thing that would come to my mind is that he wants to rape me.

Can we then infer she was a ritualist because this was the driver's presumption from her refusal to get down from the car and the incessant calls bearing their location?

I agree they may have both misunderstood each other's action but I don't believe she simply made the story up.

made the story up?

no.

rape, kidnap, ritual?

not a chance

Olalan:
If its a false accusation she should face the wrath of the law, and I think people should start hearing from both parties when rape is alleged cause it seems its the most handy blackmail tool by females today.

Check my most recent thread.. I'm warning them to stop playing that rape card because it will blow up on their faces.

If you know you weren't raped don't claim you were.

It will make the claims less believable when actual cases of rape arise

kodded:
5 million too small na






cc johnydon22 (

She must serve jail terms if he is found innocent... You can't just destroy someone's life like that

Proudgorgeousga:
before this your epistle nobody believes rape victims in this country it's either she's lying, her dress is short or she asked for it. so before this fapson girl's case rape has always been difficult to prove.

Nobody believes rape victims and giving reasons for her rape is a contradiction.

If people blame the victims of rape then they believe they were raped if they don't believe they were raped why would they give reasons why they were raped.

Chose your words carefully. Make premises with consistent points..

Its either they believe rape victims were actually raped or they don't

beejayphako:
President out of the country
Vice president out of the country
Isn't this the best time to just impeach this dumb fucking people??

Don't worry, Nigeria is running on autupilot mode

debolayinka:
The worst thing to do as a man is to quarrel with a woman who already hates you in her heart. She'll surely make sure you lay your hands on her, and once that is done, it becomes an evidence against you.

many use rape accusation as a weapon against a man.


A good number of girls trying not to appear cheap or something would tell a new boy friend they never had sex before, that they lost their virginity through one fictitious rape encounter ly that

Jamariwolf4:
3 minutes read.

So a female romancelander opened a thread this evening, and as usual, the brokers started shouting and calling her ashawo etcetera.

Well imma be honest with you: I collect money after sex, and that ain't ending anytime soon.

I AM NOT A OLOSHO OR PROSTITUTE.

You clearly have no idea the definition of those words

I work for my money, but you must still pay me.

Why?

because sex is what a man does to a woman or what two consenting adults decide to do to each other?

You have a very gross absurd and convoluted view of life, it is no surprise how you came up with this nonsensical opinion or reasons as you call them.

Take note and read carefully before you start insulting all the females (gone, alive, and yet to be born) in your family

Nope this is all on you.

Reasons why I'll always collect money after sex
1. Sex is difficult :
Oh yeah, it is! But you wouldn't know, would you? When you're just dicking down and going, you take 90% pleasure and me takes 10%.
In my sexually active years, I can count with one hand the number of sex I actually really enjoyed.
If fellow females won't be honest,
You can ask bobrisky and other faqqots who take dicks up their orifice, the receiver passes through pains!!

If this is your experience with sex then please do one of these:

*Change your partners
*Medical check up
*Lubes
*Try to key into the whole thing and not see it as doing the man a favour. be part of it and you might just enjoy it as you should

2. I'm a woman with needs:
I mean, I need to take a hot bath, change into something Hanes and eat good food, so pay up.

Then work for your needs or are you going to pay him for his needs? or he doesnt or isnt allowed to have any?

Oh please...

if you don't have a job and this is how you carter for you needs then it still nullifies your plea to be exempted from the P word class

Again define prostitute?

3. I'll get slut shamed anyway :
How many of y'all can swear on your life that you haven't bragged to your guys how you nailed that 'hoe'
Why not be a complete slut when I know I will still be tagged one, whether I collect cash or not?

Yeah like girls don't discuss their sexual encounters and even dick size amongst peers. WTF is wrong with these entitled girls?

At this point i am already battling hard to hold my peace and not use an M word

4. Did you expect to leave like that?
So if i didn't ask, you'll just go?
Smh!!!!

No. i expect you'd pay me

5. It's the right thing to do:
Before you type that trash, remember your Bible or quran condemns Fornication. If you can't pay my bills, find some cheap young naive bitch.

The bible and Quran condemns fornication and then you recommend they pay after it? condemned both biblically and oloshilically by demanding payment for a mutual act that is not a business agreement.

Mother of God!!!

6. It's a man's world:
Women have no say or opinion, right?
Well, in bed, we do!

Which planet is this girl from?

Obviously not earth

7. I'd never fück a fuckboy ever :
I'll soon open a thread on how to identify fvckboys, but in details, they want to eat without giving anything in return. I can smell their stench from miles and I activate my ignore button, so I don't need to argue for money like a prostitute after sex.

This is not a reason, this is more like a statement of choice.. I wonder what it is doing on the list. you ran out of reasons and then went like "i'd never do this"

how is this even important to the premise of your argument?

Real men pay up without you asking

Nope far from it. There is no such a thing as real men and only sex starved men or men without much options patronize sex workers.

whether you decide to go au naturel or sans naturel, pls pay your woman and treat her with respect.
Thanks.

Pay her and treat her with respect in one sentence.

at this point i cannot hold it anymore, you are Mor_on....

1. respect is earned not installed by default in a vagina
2. Paying for a service entitles the seller to no further requirements (If you receive payment for your service, what other thing do you think you deserve from the buyer?)
3. You are a catastrophe to men and women relationship..
4. bag of contradiction.

Shugavee:
i dont hv time 4 that!! U indirectly said, people were acusing ur friends out no where 4 rape!!! How did u know it was out of no where!! How r u sure they didnt do it!!

Clearly you can't read.. This is a result of hasty need to reply leading to vague and misconception of a story .. Read again if you still think this then come back

yorex2011:
While we think about these things, one should realize in a court of law, its mostly never about the truth... But about who has a better lawyer and can prove his/her case.

There are also tons of real rape cases where the perpetrators got away because they had better lawyers or had some sort of influence. While this shouldn't deter anyone, we should look at things from every point of view.

Whether we like it or not, we just have to accept the fact that these things will happen.

People will get molested, whether male or female and people will also get falsely accused.

So on a lighter note, if a lady forces herself on a man without his consent or under some sort of drug induced scenario, and gets pregnant. Is the man responsible?

A lady raping a man isn't rape though just so you know.. It's not counted

kodded:


all this one no concern me at all




abeg when is abumayang coming to arsenal

No it wouldn't until you are accused...

Shugavee:
but did all So why indicate that the once u know abt r lies

Read the OP again.. This time slowly

Ladyhippolyta88:
Nice write up.I wonder why some women would do such if they are found guilty of such they should pay for it.The fact still remains that women have been victims of rape and some of them do not have the opportunity to speak up on such abuses.Rapists should be dealt with and their victims should get justice.Rape is still a disease in our society which really needs a cure.

I totally agree. Rapists should serve jail terms and if any woman accuses someone falsely (putting them at risk of this jail term) if proven false, the woman should serve equal prison terms.

You don't get to play with someone's future like that

Shugavee:
I know ur reason 4 ur article but hv u ever put in consideration if they never lied? Hv u?? No!! Case closed!!

If no woman ever lied of rape?

Tons of them

yorex2011:
This is the world we live in

It is getting ridiculous.

As a young growing boy i remember having similar conversations with my friends, we usually remarked to ourselves how a woman you have never seen before could walk up to you anywhere and accuse you of raping her and people would believe.

we all know this to be true.

It is your words against hers and who do you think they would believe?
We grew up with this fear knowing fully well that it was a huge possibility.

Then, rape was a serious matter. women didn't bank on this seeming victim's power, rape accusations were reserved for actual cases.
Today. we are seeing a dangerous change, the rape weapon is becoming overused and this i argue will affect women negatively

The recent trends of popular culture and cultivating a form of victim's culture for women is something women should thread carefully with or it is literally going to blow up in their faces.
Once a woman accuses a man of rape he is guilty by default. this is the next possible assumption.

So many men have been destroyed by this, so many careers marred by this and many serving jail terms even though innocent.
This article is inspired by the recent higgy hagga on going between a taxify driver and an actress.
I watched the video, i gave as much consideration to each side as much as i can.

This wasn't a rape case and anyone who watches that video and judges with an objective mind must see this.
Rape accusation was the weapon.
None the less i am not here to discuss this incident, twitter is doing much of that already.

I am here to address this overly popular victim's culture women are cultivating and the negative implications it will have on women everywhere. With the number of false accusations flying around, the number of innocent men marred by these false accusation and a seeming utilization of the rape victim card for personal clap backs will have severe negative consequences on the women folk.

A time will come when no one will believe a rape accusation from a woman owing to the fact that many are coming to terms that many women use this as a weapon just to get back at a man.

This will be very unfortunate as it will be unfair to actual rape victims.

Someone isn't guilty simply because you said so.

We should objectively investigate these matters because serious issues must be met with equally serious objectivity.