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danvon:
No they should not be separated in the first place

danvon:
yes it is nothing on it's own it should not be separated from the electron and neutron otherwise it is no longer an atom
Note: the word Atum means god

danvon:
So that means a proton isn't part of the Atom?

Martinez19:
Jesus, the father and holy spirit are one but yet only the father knows the hour of the rapture. How can Jesus and holy spirit be one with God?

hopefulLandlord:
incase anyone is wondering, this is the link to the post https://www.nairaland.com/4272376/question-sciencewatch#63940875

Martinez19:
from what I have seen, sciencewatch is literally mad. Imagine quoting a post over and over again with utter ridiculous garbage. It's terrible what brain rot descends on people.

dalaman:
. Dude has been quoting me since. Since I don't read any of his nonsensical thrash, he can keep wasting his time. He's officially insane.

Martinez19:
@ Johnydon22 and HopefulLandord

I, clearly, see your points. Who knows what incorrigible tides of buffoonery you must have endured at the hands of sciencewatch?

dalaman:
Pls stop tagging me in any post that has to do with sciencewatchhhhhhhhhh. I don't read his post, I can't read his post and I will never read any of his post.

Many times he tries to get my attention by replying to many of my post that are not directed at him. Once I get any mention and I see its from him, I don't read the post. I will never read anything from him. If only he knows that I don't read anything from him, he'll stop responding to my post that are never directed at him, but he can continue wasting his time. I will never read anything from him.

MizMyColi:
I was going to create a counter post, and then my mind placed emphasis on where you wrote " biblically "
Well, I rest my case.

Mindfulness:
Obviously, there are many contradictions in the Bible and many of us do not resonate with the image of God that paints the Creator in a hostile, punitive, vengeful, brutal and sadistic way. I even refuse to think of God in this way. It is blasphemy in my eyes. In Jesus Name. Amen.
By painting God as the offense-taking, petty, easily irritated Being, we make God in our image forgetting who we really are.

The Bible has been written and re-written, translated over and over again, delivered from generation to generation to generation and across cultures. It was written by, through and for (wo-)men. It is bound to be flawed. This is why God gave you an inner voice. Listen to it. A thought is right when it feels right. If God wanted us to be obedient, he would have created us so.

Hati13:
So you believe that some God/gods are like their respective believers say then?

Fekwa:
I also believe same. I agree that a few might have been fantasies like you rightly stated, but I also believe that some might have been inter dimensional entities, the kind you'd call spirits, and they were able to interact with them through spiritual journeys or heightened states of consciousness, while others were actual aliens in space ships. No offense to Christians and Jews, but I think their god was an alien in a space ship. The old testament is replete with evidence that suggests this.

Hati13:
Not intended to me, but I'm sure that some God/gods are fantasies while others are Aliens.

Fekwa:
How about religions which don't claim that their God was the creator of the universe? Do you dispute the existence of their God since he doesn't fit this paradigm of a creator God?

4kings:
Happy birthday Johnydon22

vaxx:
hmmm, do the vedas has a record explanation of GOD personal encounter like the Jews , the full story of GOD first encounter in the genesis goes thus.

One day in the Middle East about four thousand years ago, an elderly but still rather astonishingly spry gentleman took his son for a walk up a hill. The young man carried on his back some wood that his father had told him they would use at the top to make an altar, upon which they would then perform the ritual sacrifice of a burnt offering. Unbeknownst to the son, however, the father had another sort of sacrifice in mind altogether. Abraham, the father, had been commanded, by the God he worshiped as supreme above all others, to sacrifice the young man himself, his beloved and only legitimate son, Isaac.

An angel appeared, together with a ram, letting Abraham know that God didn’t really want him to kill his son, that he should sacrifice the ram instead, and that the whole thing had merely been a test. and this story birth the three main abrahimic religion(Christianity, Islam and the Jews)

can i have the historical account of veda encounter with GOD......

vaxx:
you do not want long answer, OK let me summarize what i mean.

the Jews were the first set of people to document an encounter with God, all other tribe only have the concept of God base on fear and admiration toward natural phenomenon......the record can be found in the book of GENESIS

hopefulLandlord:
fair enough but we need to understand what those arguing for design are really arguing for cuz they're most times Abrahamic religionists who say the creator designed in one rigid way and any other way isn't "design" as it goes against what they think they know the creator supposedly did

Basically, Design = Adam and Eve and any other "design" isn't true

take Christianity for instance
Without Adam and Eve . . . you have no disobedience based on them eating the fruit from the wrong tree.
Without this disobedience -- called " original sin " -- you have NO reason for "God" to later send a "Redeemer" for the human race . . . and that Redeemer = Jesus. Without Jesus, you have no basis for Christianity. . . .

of course, some Christians now say the creation story is "allegorical" but that creates a slippery slope where everything after it could've also just been allegorical and it gets even worse when one asks them where the "allegory" stopped and the true story started

vaxx:
first of all we must acknowledged that the Jews are a nation of story telling, Jews were the first people to find God in history. They were the first to think in historical terms – of time as an arena of change as opposed to cyclical time in which the seasons rotate, people are born and die, but nothing really changes. Jews were the first people to write history(an account of event) if the account event of Jesus is entirely true , then adam , eve, satan and yahweh etc must also be entirely true, i failed to entirely agree that Jesus account event is entirely true ....it must have been alter or manipulated.....why?

TO verified the truthfulness of an account, it must be determined by these four basic factor : congruence, consistency, coherence, and usefulness.

• A true account is congruent with our experience – meaning, it fits the facts. It is in principle falsifiable, but nothing falsifying it has been found. One way we can infer that our story is congruent with the facts as we experience them is when what we experience is predictable from the story. But truth is always provisional, not an end state. When we discover new facts, we may need to change our story.

• A true account is internally consistent. It has no contradictions within itself, and it fits together elegantly. The principle of consistency (same as the principle of non-contradiction) allows us to infer things consistent with what we already know. An inconsistent story – one that contains contradictions – does not allow us to do this.

• All true account is coherent with everything else we consider true. It confirms, or at least fails to contradict, the rest of our established knowledge, where ‘knowledge’ means beliefs for which we can give rigorous reasons. The physical sciences – physics, chemistry, biology, geology and astronomy – all reinforce each other.

• A true account is useful. It gives us mastery. When we act on the basis of a true story or explanation, our actions are successful. What is true works to organize our thought and our practice, so that we are able to reason with logical rigor to true conclusions and to handle reality effectively. Truth enables us to exert our power, in the sense of our ability to get things done, successfully. It has predictive power, allowing us to make good choices concerning what is likely to happen.(Jon wainwright)


ALL the available account of Jesus event failed to agree with these basic factors


anyway if i must say, Jesus historical account made him the most successful Jews in the entire world , he propagate the gospel not only to his people but also to the Samaritans......he has a follower of about 2 billions on planet earth.,....people hold him in high esteem even more than their own biological parent.

how i wish Africa history is also well propagated , it will have shaped the world

hopefulLandlord:
can you elucidate on the number 3?

butterflyl1on:
Sorry but I never engaged your monk much to your "obvious " shock.

You are making no sense in anything you say but simply using semantics and when called out you cower and start throwing tantrums.

Where is your list of supernatural things atheists believe in yet disbelieve the existence of a God who is supernatural?

themonk:
Thanks for the advice, ill ignore argument mongers from now let me deal more with people who really want to learn.

Alternate monikers to like his own post? Pathetic life he must have. So sad.

themonk:
Seriously, I decided not to engage religious people in any argument whatsoever some time ago because i find it difficult to reason with them but then when i saw "sciencewatch" as his moniker, i thought he might be a lover of science and that i could reason with him a little, maybe teach him something and learn from him too. the first time he quoted me, he sounded hostile and i was like let me just calm down and explain to him he might understand but now i am so disappointed. . He just aims to win the argument and not to learn a thing, its sad. I pity him.

frosbel2:
But I am not an atheist

Let' just say I am a deist -sort of.

themonk:
You cannot be reasoned with.
I made this as simple as possible for you to understand, all you do is call you fellow religious keypad warriors to engage me in an online brawl over something that doesnt pay me. Bro, if comprehension is your problem try and solve it, but if you wish to use irrational arguments to provide a psychological consolation to your brain which by its inability to reason defends itself from logical arguments, i can't go down the mud with you bro. Have fun.

frosbel2:
I am not a Christian!