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Dawdy:
But you also failed to explained the so called big bang. You only claimed somebody viewed with telescope and discovered that the universe was expanding, so he thought it might have started somewhere. What I asked you to explain was that event that took place to Mark the beginning of universe. But you failed to do so. Are you no longer proud of the big bang theory? Or does it not make sense to you again?

This a blatant evasion, i can comprehensively explain the big bang cosmological model coupled with the mathematics involved, what i gave you is a simple background foundation of the theory so you can free NASA, apparently even something as simple as that you can't even understand.

Please can you answer the question now...let me repeat it.

How did you universe come to be?

My answer is Big Bang, now tell me yours.. If you evade it one more time it will be obvious that you should not be making noise here again and i am going to ignore you afterwards since it will be revealed that you are not worth my time..

i am waiting

annunaki2:
Otemanuduno is probably the "prophet" of our time. That was how one psychiatric patient in seventh century hallucinate and claimed he was a prophet. Since then and till this very day, the whole world has not known peace.

for all we know he is not entirely different from every prophet we know or have heard about both now or in antiquity, in every religion spanning across every timeline of human religious enterprise - it's all the same thing, you just believe one more than others.

Dawdy:
Well I think some 13 billion years ago, something just popped up from nothing, there was no space it occupied, nor time it happened. Because it was that thing that created space and time as it started to expand. Hope you're OK with it?

Bunch of theories speculatios and and assumptions without single evidence to back them up, other than some elites proved it.
Is not as if we can prove it ourselves, even with telescopes. We just have to believe in whatever they tell us.

Science is good. Science is based on fact. Not Pseudoscience that you guys call science.

For goodness sake answer the simple question don't dodge. or do you want to run away as usual?


just answer the question straight from your own ideas stop this puerile idiocy of reeling out pure silliness in a bid to evade the question.

let me repeat the question once more

HOW DID THE UNIVERSE COME TO BE?

Stewie101:
How you manage to just reduce a complex and sectarian problem in a particular region that has strong historical and political underpinnings to just a problem of atheism is really appalling. You are definitely not a person I'd want to have a conversation with on any subject because you seem to be someone who would be inclined to lie and make uneducated and uninformed assertions and parade them as fact just to support your argument. I don't even know why anyone takes you seriously.

lmao

Theism claims that God is an eternal being therefore it's existence does not need to be explained in terms of causality: but it also appeals to logic that there is no restrictions to the amount of eternal uncaused beings that can exist.

if one can exist then 2 can as well as 3 as well as billions of eternal things .

if you are to save a step and deny God the explanation of a cause then anybody can simply save that same step and deny a causality for the universe - there is no way that it works out for you.

one can also in the same way save a step and attribute every possible universe to an eternal multiverse within a hyper space. the possibilities are endless.

exempting the idea of God from causality does not solve the problem but rather postpones it, again as i have noticed in many theistic arguments God always seize to a person at some point and just becomes "The thing that created the universe"

which always leads me to ask

what makes a God?

Is a thing God because it created the universe or is God still God whether or not it created the universe?

Radiohead6:
There are all in on it ,

lmao but somehow it is only NASA you know. common

Okay Show me a space agency who had claimed to be on the moon without the logo "V" ,

what is he talking about again, there probes orbiting the moon as well as lunar rovers from china and even Russia.

and I bet you cannot a non CGI of the Earth as you claim ,

There you go.. you can have only 1 option now, just deny and stick that they are CGI..

so now please provide me with pictorial evidences of a flat earth. i will be waiting

Radiohead6:
you are Fighting for what even the Scientists themselves Debunked wth man

why do you always make meaningless statements. what in the world does this mean?

simple question i asked: How did the universe come to be?

Dawdy:
Space may be the final frontier - but it's made in a Hollywood basement. NASA Disney & Hollywood have created the science fiction fantasy world of SPACE & fooled us into believing it's real. The only thing they've sent to space is your imagination.

still no argument

Radiohead6:
Have you asked yourself why all NASA's pics of the moon lacked stars? Have you wondered why we haven't been to the moon since after the supposed moon landing? Have you experienced a comet collision before? Have you asked yourself Amy of these before sir?

Have you for once tried to know them, have you for once figured that NASA is not the only astronomical or cosmological agency in this world that all this your conspiracy theories orbiting around just NASA is not only silly but betrays stack ignorance about global astronomical and cosmological enterprise.

what if i provide you non computer generated images or edited pictures of an oblate spheroid earth and moon, would you be so kind as provide me with likewise pictorial non-CGI evidence of a flat earth?

Radiohead6:
Well I'm not really out here to argue done that on so many pages , I'll leave you with few pictures, Try and google FLAT EARTH,

Posting memes do not really make a valid argument neither does it make a preposterous argument any less silly. Eratosthenes figured out the true nature of the earth years ago using only his wits and sticks, you are from the 21st century still peddling YouTube conspiracies that a ludicrous.

get a Telescope

I am sure you have none and never viewed one before because if you have, it's enough to put a stop to this flat earth nonsense. Just a glimpse of the earth's shadow on the moon is enough.

view the Stars yourself And tell me these are just dead rocks floating in space

Now i am confused. Are you saying that astronomy terms the stars as dead rocks in space or are you the one [in coincide with your flat earth belief system] terming the stars as dead rocks. clarify.

Find FLAT EARTH IN CHRIST group on Facebook ,

so many things wrong with this name on so many levels. FLAT EARTH and CHRIST. ancient fables regurgitated by minds ruled by belief and unsubstantiated gut feelings.

No thanks, enjoy your christ and your flat earth, i don't have time to be swimming in delusive dreams of a blind conspiracy

if you have any questions you could always ask instead of unessential arguments

why not we have the debate right here. i can open a new thread sorely on that if you so wish.

Dawdy:
Bring it on how you discovered big bang theory.

i wouldn't normally oblige a conspiracy goon like you but to shut your ignorant asss down once again i will do that.

The Big Bang cosmological model contrary to your convoluted distorted views was not proposed by NASA or any other cosmological bodies in this world but rather by a Catholic priest, physicist Rev Fr georges Lamitre.

contrary to the view of a stationary universe, timeless and unchanging - Fr Lamitre believed that the universe was expanding and therefore must have started from one point of origin which he called "the premodial atom or the cosmic egg"

now that was unaccepted by mainstream science until Edwin Hubble using the mount Wilson's telescope confirmed that the universe was indeed expanding, by measuring the redshifts of neighboring galaxies, it can be detected that they are racing away from each other.

that was the first evidence for the theory of the premodial atom.

now further more please stop shouting NASA this, NASA that it makes you look daft since NASA is not the only cosmological agency in this world, we have hundreds of them.

No knowledge forms in isolation, every knowledge is built upon an older and a more simplistic one...

my turn
How did the universe come to be?

Dawdy:
You yourself, can you prove or disprove anything? What do you know yourself? What research have you carried out other than what you were told. I'm very sure you don't know how anything work, you only rely your faith on NASA. Because It takes a lot of faith to believe in big bang theory, gravity, black holes, billions of light years away, spinning ball earth etc. I swear you were told All these, and you accepted them with faith. You can't figure out yourself how all these things work, even with telescope.

Always jumping in without base, once i bring it on - you turn tail and run.

Radiohead6:
its all hoax, we live in a Dome , No human has left the Earth ,Its glass solid ,make research

you may kindly just show us your own researches instead. Simply saying "Make researches" is not really a thing. Just give us the sources of your own findings.

let me guess - YouTube?

donnie:
He is a righteous man whose heart is towards God and kingdom expansion. Thats the reason he will never know lack.

you are not?

donnie:
He does receive millions, but does not steal church money. Besides, he is a big giver....the biggest I know.

your case is now officially closed

Jesus is coming soon but he is busy receiving millions that are totally unneeded once jesus comes again..

**thinking out loud** "do they really believe what they preach?

Uuuuuhm but that's none of my business shaaa

donnie:
Wetin you sabi?.... I leave you to other blinded folks who consume such fallacies.

which one is the fallacies?

doesnt he make millions?

yes or No?

Fuckshiit:
What fúçking Channel showing this on Mobdro

sky sports 1 bro

please for God sake which channel on Mobdro is showing the game?

donnie:
Raking money into where?

His bank account of course, where else. Your house?

So you cannot see the spread of his message around the world.

Oooh for God sake who is talking about that shiit

He recenly had a ministers conference and youth camp with attendees from every known nation on earth. Who does that? You think that's normal?

so?

- does this change the fact that he didnt say anything new as this post carries

- or that he is raking in millions everyday?

People has been saying that for more than 2000 f**cking years and these people include Jesus himself, peter and paul and pretty much every important character in the new testament and then through out the medieval times.

further more we hear that sh*t like literally everyday from Christians around the world. Now Pastor Chris says it and suddenly it becomes News?

what makes that more special or how does pastor Chris saying it make it any less bullsh*t?

N.B: Anyway important question to all christians, can someone tell me what pastor chris is doing with all the money he is raking in when Jesus is coming soon, doesn't that mean you don't really need all the millions since they aren't needed once jesus comes?

ask yourselves; Do they really believe what they preach?

to create a story twist so that the story can continue and bring up more plots.

Scribe 1 "haaaaay Abel, i am tired of this story, can't seem to figure out what next will happen"

Scribe 2 "Just throw in a very useless need for a test"

Scribe "exactly very correct" And God created a tree of good and evil which he wants nobody to eat which then makes it absolutely unnecessary and useless among all the trees in the garden.

i wonder what the pastor is using to teach his congregation after that, maybe Quran

TheTrueSeeker:
Nonsense, so what was the moral lesson for his daughter's taking laws into her hands to assault her classmate? What about warning the erring young man not to do it again instead of rendering a slap and getting away with it.

why won't she slap him and get away with it. why would the boy feel he can do that and get away with it? the moral lesson in the story is "Don't take shit from nobody"

Someone please take me to this church. let's get the party going!!!

orjisblog:
A Facebook user shared this photo some minutes ago on his wall. Though there ve been series of criticism about the theme and concept of the banner. so I decided to share this with you, what do you think?

yeah there is everything wrong in it. He is neither rich, popular, happy or sane. so how can he make anybody so?