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davidif:
Yes you can but the possibility is very minimal compared to a IndecentStar or a prostitute.
You must not value your life very much.

You possibly might have seen more prostitutes or sex peddlers than myself, your argument based on stds bear no weight as it has been shown that anybody can have STDs

does STDs diminished the value of a human? No.
does having sex diminish the worth or value of a woman? still No.

so there basically isn't anything too serious in the whole setting, prostitute or not, they are still humans equally as meaningless or as valuable as you think you are or any virgin out there you attach much importance to.

there is nothing on earth, not your belief, not class, not virginity, not statues that make anybody more deserving than another, we are all equally humans and deserving of love.

anotherydz:
1. Love your Lord thy "God".
2. Love your neighbour as yourself
That's all.

that automatically makes even catholics Christians cus i know of many of them that practice the above doctrines more than the people you regard christians.

Your definition of Christianity still contradict your hasty exclusion of catholics as Christians. . .Or maybe you are missing something either in principle of definition.

check well again

anotherydz:
Ok. Living your life according to the doctrines of Christ

LOL examples of the doctrines of christ?

anotherydz:
I'll answer the question if you can define "Life"

Lol so we are digressing from what christianity to what is "life" is that another way of saying you can't define christianity?

anotherydz:
I know one thing for sure! Christianity is not idolatry, homosexuality, being paedophilic and murderer.

simple question sir; define Christianity?

before you can say what christianity is or not

anotherydz:
I have this to say:

I think more evils are perpetrated under Catholicism than any other religion.

Catholicism is not Christianity take or take it. Catholicism is different ball game entirely.

Starting from their ancient-roman theocratic government of burning people who are against their doctrines on stakes alive. Killing of Jan Huss, Wcyliffe etc, declaring Crusades, High prevalent of homosexuality among priests, paedophiles.
What more evil is greater than this
Catholicism is a joke!!!

To all the Catholics or intending Catholics.
Pls go back to history before quoting me!

Define Christianity

wrong, it is rather very lucrative to be a prophet in Nigeria. they are among the richest class in Nigeria. bleep verbal attack and give me the money, i will gladly be a prophet.

davidif:
So based on your reasoning, how is someone who has never had sex before is going to contract a disease that is transmitted through sexual intercourse? What kind of logic is that?

you have not?

and yes you can contact STDs without having sex.

davidif:
Uhm, you do know its called sexually transmittable disease for a reason right? With emphasis on sexually.

exactly

TripleIN:
LOL

He said he feels

How can you feel something that does not exist ?

NOTE: That 'something exists' and 'something is not real' are two different things.

make up your mind

TripleIN:
Oga this is NOT fictional character, This about a reality.

Even fiction characters are real and exists because you feel it and you watch it and mostly atimes you can't touch it.

So how do you feel something that does not exist?

damn the death of logic and reason... how can you agree something is fictitious and still in the same breath argue it is real. that is a truck load of contradiction.

if it is real then it's not fictional

if it is fictional then it isn't real..

Oga please no fictional character is real...

and yes people can hate or love or even admire a fictional character

davidif:

Wow!! So venereal diseases (stds) mean nothing to you right?

Anybody can have std even you.

signing in

MaziOmenuko:
johnydon22

e tire me my brother. NASA did this, NASA did that.. All this people peddling convoluted conspiracy crap always think NASA is the leading authority in science and astronomy. NASA is just for the U.S, there are cosmological units in many other great nations including Russia and China and many of these nations are not entirely allies of the U.S. oh well i guess they are all in the plot when it comes to the shape of the earth.

what a hellenistic scientists Erasthosene figured out using only his wits and sticks, 21st century humans are still setting themselves backward in time regurgitating a totally trash geocentric theory.

he is here shouting go make research this, go make research that and at the end his leading source of research is YouTube. For God sake some YouTube videos say the Pyramids are in fact space ships, well i won't be surprised to find the guy in the boat since they all regurgitate the same conspiracy bullshit.

what is the gain of the so called government if they tell you the earth is round when it is actually flat. it's idiotic but i don't know how these conspiracy goons spin it off, pull it right out the asss and call it and intellectual step.

that is a serious slap to the intellect of man, i hardly have time to spare into such idiocy because a little yank of chain they fail to stand the test and resort to accusing NASA and shouting "You have all being deceived, the government is lying to you" that's all they've got.

butterfly88:
one hell of an article @ o.p..beautifully articulated.

indeed an all powerful God should be self sufficient and be free from all humane weaknesses however insignificant.

but like to approach the concept of the creator "wanting" us to worship him from another dimension. and to do that I'll use this simple,human logic

a teacher wants his student to study not because, the seriousness of the his student will make him(the teacher) a better person but because the students serious will actually make the student a better person.

and when the student refuses to study the teacher becomes furious and sometimes is forced to punish the student,not because the students refusal to study affects the teachers future but actually it affects the student

so from this logic, the teacher needs the student to study for the students own good.

Now can we modify your article saying " God only "wants" the creature to worship him for the creature's own good and not because it adds anything to Him(God)..or better still it is you who needs to worship, God,and strive to be a better person and not God who needs your worship.

you do not necessarily need piety in order to be good.. Goodness as regards this reference is an act [typically towards others] piety or not you can either be good or an asss..

as per an omnipotent, omniscience or perfect being to operate within the sphere of mundane emotions such as anger ridicules the very idea that this being is perfect or self sufficient. It's a direct contradiction of character.

Ayomivic:
You haven't refuted anything here, pls try harder.

lmao

Ayomivic:
The Foolishness of Atheists

At the end of this, we will really see who exhibits traits of foolishness between the average atheist out there and you.

The Book of psalm 14:1 says the foolish say in his heart their is no God they are corrupt. they do abominable deeds . there is none who does good.

the above verse gives the best description of whom atheists are. firstly it called them foolish because they rejected God in other to carry out their evil acts .they sees the God and his law as obstruction to their intended ways of lives ,so they wanted to do away with God for them to prevent their conscience of condemnation.

This is the first foolishness in this post, linking morality with a certain belief. Atheists are immoral, they are wicked and foolish not because they live wrongly, not because they steal from you, not because they kill you or mob you to death but simply because they don't believe what you believe.

it is obvious that this is crass foolishness in display because the first self rebutting premise this post is vulnerable to is that Belief is not morality

Morality is hinged on actions not belief, it is hinged on compassion, sympathy and consideration not belief in Jesus, not an undying piety in allah. If you need the assumption of an extra-terrestrial authority in order to be moral then it can be rightly said that you are not in fact moral.

So the things you believe in no way makes you a better person or a more moral person than the average atheist out there, neither does it make you anymore compassionate - belief is just what it is, belief. Morality is an action.

I on my own part can argue that you are basically operating under a selfish platform to derive a moral compass and selfishness we can agree is not so a moral virtue.

You are only good because of God, you are only good because you want the post-humours reward the God promises or a fearful need to evade the punishment afterwards - this is selfishness.

You are not Good because you find it worthy, you are not good to others because you genuinely care - you just need a reward or need to evade a punishment from a vengeful angry God that you fear might exist.

i think the strongest and the best type of people are people who regardless of no side gains attached genuinely care and exhibit good behaviors towards others and the society at large.

Belief is not morality - first fail of the post, so who really is foolish in this regard?

i wonder.

Only foolishness can make someone to say there is no God because everything God created were pointing to his existence . let me point out some of things that are proclaimed the existence of God that a wise man can easily notice as signs of God.

Like only foolishness can say Avengers are not real, i mean look New York is real, how can doctor strange not be real when London, hong kong are real.
there is no way you can lay out the claim as a proof for your assumption, the assumption is in fact hinged on these claims. You think God created everything therefore you are bound to see everything bearing a fingerprint of God on them

but the truth is that you just believe this notion you do not know how any of these came to be, you just agree with an ancient hypothesis of God. but forgive me if i dont share in your sentiment of a tree being evidence of a tree fairy.

bring on the tree fairy and not show me a tree which in fact cannot be attributed to this fairy until this fairy is independently proven.

1 Sleep: every human being do sleep . can anyone tell me who invented sleep? this sleep come to human being when it is time no matter whom you are and you wake up when it is time .sleeping can be related to death and restoration. if unknown thing can make us sleep and wake up when it is time, then that thing can kill and raise you when it is time .sleep is telling us there is God.

this is called God of the gap argument, " I don't know this therefore God"

this makes God no more than your projection of ignorance, you would rather invent God to answer a question where you re bothered by ignorance than accept ignorance which i have always argued this line of thought and methodology is dangerous to our collective intellectual evolution as a specie.

just because you do not understand sleep is not an evidence for God, it simply means You dont understand sleep

Brains: that your brain ,the brain that makes you feel superb, that make you a logic reasoning, free thinker is made by who? you growth up to discover it . You did not buy it none invent it, its sign of God existence. in fact the invention's master made all the internal and external parts of your body. just pick notice one and you will see that God exists. ask yourself ,why my fingers and toes are five each hands and legs and not ten or twenty each hands and legs? why my teeth are different in shapes ? these questions will open your sight and make you to see.

I don't know what to say to this one other than i typically understand your point though the English was terrible but i do believe English is not a measurement of intelligence.

just like above, that you do not understand the brain, that the evolution of the human brain or any brain at all is still elusive to you do not mean it was created by God, you are only making God a placeholder for the ignorance of your mind.

ignorance about the origin of the brain is not evidence for God but rather evidence of Ignorance.

Death: why must we all die? why can't we leave forever on earth ?why can't we have seen someone who can invent something to prevent death? why can't rich men in their riches buy death? Death is sign of God existence.

we can't live forever because Eve ate a damn apple that a talking snake gave her

God created everything for purposes and what he creates are perfect, you can't say let adjust this or this one is of no use.

Tsunami
earthquakes
asteroid bombardment
volcanoes
mosquitoes
polio
epilepsy
avalanche
landslides

I don't know but i also think these things are perfect designs too.

Women: can you imagine perfect jobs God does on women . that enough to accept the existence of God ,it can't happen without someone's brain behind it and that is God. women were created for men. think about them, their structures, wombs, lives of child in the womb, the breast milk, labor . just pick any and give it a deep thought you will see the existence of God. many things are telling of the existence of God. I can go on and on in mentioning them. are you not wise enough to see them or you don't have eyes to see them.

another argumentum ad ignorant - look at this, it is beautiful and complex, i don't know how it came about therefore God must exist,simply doesn't work that way.

It is grate foolishness to say there is no supreme power or God is not in existence.

I think it is even greater to assume a God based on ignorant gaps in your thinking then take this assumption as an absolute truth.

Atheist is nothing but devil in man's body.

Argumetum ad hominem - insulting atheists cannot and did not add anymore weight to your post, it didnt make it any less disappointing.

every argument you presented here is based on lack of information, you are projecting God like a holographic impression of your ignorance, channeling the darkness of your mind to affirm an assumption.

i think history has taught us that using God as a placeholder for ignorance never works out great.

Take the hellenistic philosopher Ptolemy for example, Ptolemy was fascinated by the wonders of celestial orbits but like you was ignorant of how it worked so he exclaimed

" i know i am mortal and fleeting, but as i observe for my pleasure the to and fro movement of the celestial bodies, i no longer stand on the earth with my two feet but on the presence of Zeus himself and have my fill from the water of Ambrosia."

he didnt understand it so he invoked God, he invoked Zeus.

Isaac Newton using Johannes Keplers works deducted and answered the questions Ptolemy failed to answer and the God of Ptolemy became irrelevant in the equation of celestial movement.

But yet again Newton came to the peak of his knowledge, he came to the limit of his certainty when he was faced with the problem of Solar stability. he couldn't fathom how the solar system was able to achieve stability yet again just like Ptolemy Newton added God to the equation to answer this question.

then came Leplace who using his intricate equation of the mathematics of perturbation, he answered the question of Solar stability, as the story goes when asked 'where does God fit into this equation'

he simply replied "i have no need of that hypothesis"

we do not invoke god when we understand things, we do not invoke god when we have knowledge, you only employ God at the limit of your knowledge.

if you keep doing this then as history has shown the more we know the more irrelevant you make God, as Neil Degrasse Tyson would say " God would become an ever receding pocket of Ignorance"

so with this i think the words of Paul Heinrich Dietrich, Baron von Holbach [1770] becomes truer than true.

" If a faithful account was rendered of Man’s ideas upon Divinity, he would be obliged to acknowledge, that for the most part the word ‘gods’ has been used to express the concealed, remote, unknown causes of the effects he witnessed; that he applies this term when the spring of the natural, the source of known causes, ceases to be visible: as soon as he loses the thread of these causes, or as soon as his mind can no longer follow the chain, he solves the difficulty, terminates his research, by ascribing it to his gods . . . When, therefore, he ascribes to his gods the production of some phenomenon . . . does he, in fact, do any thing more than substitute for the darkness of his own mind, a sound to which he has been accustomed to listen with reverential awe? "

A88C:
is inevitable. i and you will taste it

yeah sure

A88C:
please i made a mistake submitting the write up ,am trying to capture back my information

dead!!!

Science and Mysticism [part of religion] do not have different origins, superstition and science are children of the same parent which is undiluted linear philosophy.

Superstition was a way in which humans made sense of the world, binding the strings to connect the bothering dots of the raging incessant effects around them.

science is a new way, a modern way of finding about Nature, a new way of communing with creation. superstition once served this purpose. They both utilize different method and line of thoughts but they both are not too different as people would have them look.

Science is not the opposite of mythologies, superstition or mysticism as a tool in deducting the truth if creation, rather science is a more refined and defined mythology, superstition and mysticism.

You can see and reconcile many similarities because what we call mysticism, superstition, sorcery was just the science of a different time.

Of what use are they to us here in Africa?

oaroloye:
I believe in the CONCAVE EARTH Theory of CYRUS TEED, currently championed by LORD STEVEN CHRISTOPHER

I find it extremely hilarious that people who peddle these nonsensical bag of BS don't really think before laying it out in public. Imagine someone calling Science a fake western science and then turns around to believe the concave earth theory of Lord Steven Christopher who is also a western man.

which says that the Sun, Moon, Planets, Stars, and Galaxies are no more than 10,000 miles distant from us at all times, and are a LOT tinier than we have been told by FAKE WESTERN SCIENCE.

and what are galaxies from the definition of this theory?

secondly of what use is it to the "fake western science" to tell you that the sun is larger than the earth, what do they hope to accomplish with that lie?

Dawdy:
They are all lies. Moon stars sun are all lights in our firmament under the dome. . There is nothing like planets. All these things are just lights in the sky. Don't be deceived! Earth is not a spinning ball, Their evidence is CGI computer generated imagery.

i have several arguments with you, you always end up running away all the time when it is time to defend this BS you always peddle around.

Akinrogun:
The above shows you are absolutely clueless and bereft of ideas about the creation and Creator of the universe. Hence you have decided in your deluded mind to ramble and vituperate in quick sands.

With regards to the question, why is an 'omnipotent and omniscient God' interested in a minuscule entity called man.....here's the answer : the 'man' is created in the image of the omnipotent and omniscient God. Man is His vicegerent on earth, more reason why man holds dominion over all including powerful beasts like lion, elephant, Leviathans, whales, boars, crocodiles etc. More reasons why man explore the cosmos infinitely and all creations stood in awe of man. All this come from the fact that man is imbued with God-like energies.

These facts cannot be gleaned by mind-controlled beings like you....there are far superior knowledge beyond the carnal man.

Be enlightened!....open your eyes to eternal verities.

Selah!

LMAO..

i applaud the genius that is the OP, i do not think i need say no more or add anything to this beautiful piece.

God is not just a word, God is an entity, a conceptual being

EVarn:
@Johnydon22 and Seun
This write up is quite intriguing; even as a christian,I can reason with the points made in the article.
I do have these thoughts about the instrumentalities of religion,but in the end,I end up concluding that humanity needs religion,for the same reasons we need government; to ensure relative tranquility and minimize chaos.
If religion were to be made absent in a hypothetical vacuum,such a vacuum would likely spiral into a state I call the "communal lysis of the hopeless",which may well lead to a social and psycological implosion.
Religion,by virtue of its abstract nature,makes a mockery of common sense; but it is a most necessary concept.
Why do I say this,afterall,religion seem to be the cause of half the world's conflict?,simple.Religion gives hope; hope is the last recourse of the condemned man.If a man has no hope for better things to come,he will either make everyone around him fall into his own malady or resort to taking his own life.
In a sense,its a necessary evil.

I completely agree 100% I too hold the thought that Religion is important for order and control... It is a vital societal tool just like politics we need these two

kaboninc:
Seun hates even the concept of a God. I don't believe in the existence of a God either. But from all atheist I've come to know, a majority of them have this strong hatred on even the existence of a God.

It is one thing to agree and disagree and it is another thing to express your hatred over anything....real or imagined.

so in what way is this hatred expressed? Arguing against the existence of God or chastising everything that has to do with God?