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promise10:
bro, why must you live a life of confusion.

how many atheistic god's do you have?

the other day, you proclaimed the transparent unicorn, another day you proclaimed FSM and today you are now calling Jeebus.

you see how your atheistic life is a victim of stupidity and confusion? just to make yourself look cool which doesn't work. it is now getting boring.

theoneJabulani:
I made a thread after the same AND called me and other atheists satanist. I don't know yet they just don't get it. We don't believe Satan exist not to talk of worshipping him.

theoneJabulani:
Don't be, that's analice107 for you. What do u expect from someone who was in pain for years b4 her all loving father apparently healed her. She has to let out the steam from somewhere

hopefulLandlord:
this comment reminds me of Naijadeyhia's similar comment days back

analice107:
NO SPIRIT LED CHRISTIAN WILL ENGAGE YOU.

hopefulLandlord:
another bunch of ignorant gobbledygook



why not?




tooth fairy manifested in our disappearing tooth and present under our pillow



exactly! believing or lacking belief in a fictional character won't make it real



there are ways of knowing this without straight up asking him but what do you know?




red herrings

lol

we've heard all these before

invent new excuses for your imaginary Jewish carpenter who reportedly lived 2000 years ago and was killed by three nails, the old ones have been overbeaten by us

joyContraMundum:
lol..... Guy, believe me just this once; you're a dumbass of the highest originality. You're a grandmaster of the magisterium of moro'ns who occupies the apogee of the castle of stvpidity. Long live the idiiotic emperor of whacko nutjobs.

joyContraMundum:
Yeah, right. Everyone viewing this can see how really intelligent you are. I wonder who really lacks comprehension here.

ever811:
sir,if you are banking on this..... leme quote you ..."umm yo you guys have free will not to serve me but if you don't serve me I will burn you forever"..my question is if you give your children the freewill to leave around your house but never to disrespecting you..and if they do something wrong to tarnish your image after you spelling it out to them not to taunt you before your neighbors will you path them on the back or you will punish them?

CoolUsername:
Do these laws need a progenitor? The laws of physics after only descriptive. We can use them to give predictions but only as far as the speculation is well-defined within the predefined law itself. The laws of physics deal with space-time itself. Without space-time precedence can't occur. So how can you say physics needs a predecessor with any form conviction? Once again, it doesn't. The Universe could have existed in some other form. The fact that it has a beginning is no reason to shoehorn a transcendent being. The very fact that you call it that shows how little logical sense it makes. How can you reliably tell me anything about this so-called entity? Your definition of it completely betrays the assured descriptions you've been giving me. Every single one of those cases is hearsay. If anyone truly believes he can project his 'spirit' then the person should by all means submit himself to a controlled experiment. A simple guessing game could prove this. It's rather funny that the only person who can do this and is willing to submit herself to testing is can't perform the outrageous claims made by the ones you are talking about. Like I've always said, you don't build bridges using principles that are based on hearsay. Does it need a reason? Isn't that circular reasoning? Assume God exists, then use reality as proof? According to the Christian holy book, bats are birds. I won't base my views on such a book. Yup. You define your own purpose. I don't need ready-made instructions on what to do with myself. I'll give you one more try to come up with proof of your claims

JackBizzle:
Red herring....strawman....whataboutery.....



TB Joshua said that he saw a woman president.....he didnt say anything about popular votes. He saw a female president.


Or you dey go im church before?

raphieMontella:
the funny and amazing thing is that people believe it..when evidence of a spherical earth is being splashed on their faces everyday...on a general term.

LightandDarkness:
When you examine a lot of those stories it's clear they aren't based in fact. It's really surprising some people actually belive noahs ark existed..the same people wholl come here and call atheists illogical.

LightandDarkness:
Lol I'm sorry. Isn't your idea of God based off book's? Unless you somehow know him personally and you have had conversations, not that voice in your head nonsense that is often claimed which is most likely your mind.

ever811:
you consider and attributes those point to justify your ignorance about God's way of doing things because you have never care to read the bible and understand what God said about those situations..I don't want to go far yet but I understand where you are heading to,..I beg you to answer this question with a sincere heart."..will some one hold you accountable if you destroy your invention for not functioning as you intended?.. iam waiting for your answer

Wilgrea7:
you couldn't have said it better bro

atheism isn't just a case of hasty generalisation but also arrogance and ignorance.. there is no manner of thinking that doesn't validate the existence of a supreme being.. but since they judge the abrahamic God based on books, they conclude that no supreme being exists at all



sometimes i wish could sell them off to mars

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are ignorant , illogical and arrogant . Deists found God through Reason, Science and Nature and rejected these religious texts . A typical deist believes that God is the power of first cause, nature is the law, and matter is the subject acted upon. But atheists with just an insufficient knowledge of nature rejected the existence of a creator despite the overwhelming evidence for one . And their arguments against the existence of God are presented only through the religious perspective nothing intellectual just like your first response to me

ever811:
I use to be angry with atheist but now iam not after reading from the bible where it says...."only a fool says in his heart that there is no God and again a scientists,----"Christian Anfinsen"...said...."i think only an idiot can be an atheist.we must admit that there exist an incomprehensible power or forces with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in one place.if the bible that was written thousands of years back,will call an atheist "Fool...then after thousands of years letter a scientists would call them idiots..I beg to believe its no coincidence....I really wish to know how I got to exist, the bible made me understand, after comparing situations and instances to believe there is a supernatural God that created all things.but atheist argued that God did not create me but matter did..and i am always angry each time I tried to consider the atheist madness,because they them selves has no idea how matter created it's self..no atheist has been able to answer how things started..I repeat.. I will take atheist serious only when they convince me how I got to exist...

KingEbukasBlog:
Its highly illogical that man has knowledge of just 4 percent of the universe but somehow just somehow atheists believe its sufficient enough to reject the existence of the an intelligent transcendent being .

Logic point towards the existence of an immaterial realm , a transcendent realm , from which the universe emerged from . I mean its just common sense .

KingEbukasBlog:
Its highly illogical that man has knowledge of just 4 percent of the universe but somehow just somehow atheists believe its sufficient enough to reject the existence of the an intelligent transcendent being .

Logic point towards the existence of an immaterial realm , a transcendent realm , from which the universe emerged from . I mean its just common sense .

KingEbukasBlog:
It is so clear that they are trying to lessen the severity of their humiliation by acting insouciant . They are atheists. They have no moral compass , so they feel , lying and concocting stories though expedient , are effective ways of attacking true believers .Most of them are nihilists - they are depressed , lonely and sad with an impulse to destroy and be malevolent because they think that life is meaningless . They want to bring you down to their pathetic lowbrow level so they can be able to beat you with experience . Don't , I mean never allow this to happen . Please .

shadeyinka:
Atheism is a Religion that replaces God with Self!

Do you know the sin of shaitan?
Atheism!

Kalatium:
Why repeating your post up to 3 times

LiberaDeus:
There is almost no way that the character of Jesus could be wholly invented from scratch. Just like other historical figures, Jesus existed but his life was embellished and glorified to form the myth people believe now.

The contentions or biggest issues in the story of Jesus are;

1. His birth. Realistically no one conceives without intercourse.
But it was believed that he was conceived by a virgin. The issue with this is that at that period in history, this fantastic stories were quite common.
Ceasar claimed to be descended from a god, almost all Roman emperors claimed divine descent. The belief in a god man wasn't present in early Judaism but in Greco Roman cultures.

The virgin birth and son of god status was added to give the story and claims of early Christians much needed weight.

The ironical thing is that the same claims in this present world would scatter all forms of credibility but in ancient times the opposite was the case.

2. The claim of being descended from David.

Most Christians don't understand that in ancient times, people could claim anything for themselves to give their movement credence. Appolonius of Tyana did the same thing, Simon Bar Kochba did the same thing.
Record keeping was not meticulous and well detailed then, people could claim to be bastard children of emperors, they could basically claim anything and there would be no confirmation.

The genealogy in Matthew and Luke are very contradictory which shows that the later gospel writers tried to fit him into David's lineage.

3. The miracles of Jesus. The average Christian knows that he has to utilise deep faith to believe all the miracles like raising the dead, walking on water, feeding the five thousands etc.
The question I have for Christians is this,
Which is easier to do ?
- walk on water, raise the dead, heal the lepers etc or

- write a story on a papyrus scroll about a man that lived before that did all that and distribute the scrolls to a few people and have them distribute it over time. Mind you, this happened when people still taught that demons caused chicken pox, the world was flat and the sun and stars were in our sky.

It takes just a mustard seed of rational thinking to see that the latter is much easier and it has been replicated over time. People have created such belief systems over centuries and they still do today. In this modern world, what appears to be easier to do? Start a church or heal cancer with your hands. The answer to that shows how easy it is to start religions but how difficult it is to substantiate their claims.

4. Death and resurrection of Jesus. The rabbi Yahshua most likely was killed or crucified.

Based on the level of humiliation that crucifixion represented, no one at that time would have liked to claim that their teacher was crucified. The crucifixion most likely happened, the issue is that the events following the crucifixion are responsible for the creation of the Christian religion.
Based on the facts, Romans kept crucified people in mass graves, Jesus was not popular contrary to what the gospels claim, if Jesus was popular then every contemporary writer would've written about him at that time. Philo of Alexandria, tacitus etc never mentioned him. This shows that the Romans and Jews of that period weren't interested in his death. Anything could have been done to his body after death. It could have been hidden, burned, swapped etc. This makes it easier for the gospel writers of 4 decades later to claim that he was resurrected. Remember also that Muhammad also ascended to heaven in a flying horse but I don't think any Christian sees that claim as anything but a hoax. But the same Christian believes that a crucified Jesus resurrected from the dead based on hearsay. Where there video cameras then, was there any standard portrait of him at that time, how many people could describe him. If his body was presented , how many would have verified that it was him?


5. The teachings of Jesus. There are so many gospels but only four made it to orthodoxy. You can read the gospel of peter, Thomas[ which nearly made it to the NT], Mary Magdalene, James etc. The four gospels have very similar teachings but the remaining have divergent teachings.

Every doctrine of Christianity exists today because someone won a war and the victors always narrate history. The war for orthodoxy was won by the Pauline faction of Christianity. They defeated the Gnostics, nestorians, marcionites and all other sects.
Winning a war does not connote divine acceptance. If it does, how many Christians believe god was behind the Mongols, Napoleon and other great conquerors that were involved in heinous crimes.
The whole Christian doctrine is as a result of the victory of Pauline Christianity over other sects. If gnosticism had won that battle then all Christians today won't have believed in a physical Jesus but a spirit that appeared to man.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



It is ignorant to say that Oyinbo Atheists do not deny the Historical Existence of YAHSHUA.



The Claims of Yahshua are not extraordinary.

Holy men and Women around the World have exhibited similar Powers.

It is ignorance to not know this.

You never heard of the TOLTECS, the HINDUS, the TIBETANS, the TAOISTS.

You think that the Witches of Europe were executed for having CROOKED TEETH?



NONE OF WHICH YOU WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT.

As you also hide the fact that most of those who tried to report them were summarily PUT TO DEATH.



Look how Atheists play on people's ignorance?

IF PAUL FOUNDED THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, WHOM DID HE ARREST AND HAUL TO JERUSALEM FOR TRIAL AND EXECUTION?

If Paul founded Christianity, WHOM DID HE WRITE LETTERS TO?

Churches HE founded, or CHURCHES which existed before him?

He was a PHARISEE under GAMALIEL. He would have had the opportunity to see and hear AND REJECT YAHSHUA when he came to Jesusalem for the Great Feast. That is not an issue. He never claimed to have met Yahshua before his Resurrection.

However, HE DID CLAIM TO HAVE MET THE DISCIPLES.

How could he have met Yahshua's Disciples, if HE founded Christianity?



ACTUALLY, BIBLE SCHOLARS SAY THESE GOSPELS CAME OUT IN ABOUT 60AD, when PETER and PAUL were martyred.



Once you admit Yahshua MAY have existed, all gainsaying claims as to what he COULD/COULD NOT have done are just LYING on your part because you are not qualified to comment on such matters.

Kalatium:
It is ignorant to say that Paul founded Christianity, he was the most active evangelist for the Gentiles.

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are wicked heartless people