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Vick4rill:
see as dey rush enter the thread!! for una mind una don get member??. Pls read this words carefully... it will be far easier for Buhari to become a pastor,Ronaldo and messi to play for Eyimba, Arsenal to win the champion league and petrol to cost 30N. than for me to become an Atheist....dont repent and give your life to christ.

lol you'll be surprised. I never thought I could be agnostic
Never in a million years. Though agnosticism is kind of a diluted atheism it's kind of dumb to be 100% sure no gods exist. I just say I don't know. The religious Gods are a lie tho

DrayZee:
Look, whether this story is true or not, the truth of the matter is that most of you blindly criticize his schools without thinking how much it would cost him to even run them.

You will be surprised to find out that some of these church private universities do not make profit from their schools. You'll just be asking them to reduce it. So they reduce it to the point that dullards and people who are not serious with their education can attend and pull down the standards of their school.
Spend money and build school, then in the name of church members, you allow everything you struggled to build to be brought down to nothing.

They have scholarships for their church members and children, so those who are genuinely serious with their studies can get in.
Try to see things from their perspective,not just your own way all the time.

Do you even have any idea how much it would take to pay the salaries of the cleaners, window washers, teachers, maintenance officers, canteen workers, and security men in that school alone. And he doesn't owe them salaries,something our government has excelled in.

Even the electricity alone. I'm sure they receive almost 24 hours of electricity every single day, every day of the year which would power not only the hostels, but the entire school as well as it's equipments. You think he fetches fuel from a well? Or because he is a Pastor he can now convert water to fuel.

Not to talk of maintenance of all the equipments in that school.
He has decided to bring education to Nigeria which meets at least an average standard when compared with world class universities, and you people are complaining.
Your government has only succeeded in looting funds meant for your education, and some of you still defend them.


You would have also asked Cambridge, Harvard, MIT, and the likes to reduce their fees nah. Or because he is a Pastor, that gives you the right to pounce on him.


Be Considerate people, please.

but most Harvard students are on scholarship.Harvard has basically made it so that anyone accepted to Harvard will be able to attend regardless of their financial situation. Any applicant who is accepted whose family earns less than 65,000 USD a year is automatically given a full need-based scholarship such that their families pays nothing out of pocket and they don't have to take out a student loan . This school isn't the case

felixomor:
Must the marsupials have swam?
If u claim to really be open minded?
Is the moon not a source of light? Be it by reflection or by any means whatever?

Like i told u before, its about choosing what u want to believe.
Doesnt in anyway change what God has planned for you though.

Suit yourself.

lol you too friend

felixomor:
Like i told u before.
Again swimming in ur own interpretations.
Keep swimming.

I asked you something I was supposedly ignorant of according to you and your christian pals and told me I'm "swimming in my interpretation"
How else would someone interpret " the moon shall be a lesser light for the night"
You didn't even answer my marsupial question
It's apparent you're the one whose swimming you've basically drowned in your religious beliefs
Chao

felixomor:
You are the second person to tell him this today.

well since you have the answers tell me naa
I'm quite interested on the migration of marsupials to the ark.
Lol who was the first
The moon doesn't reflect light
The Abrahamic God didn't know that
Was he not ignorant about what he supposedly created?
Couldn't he have said something like
"and the moon shall reflect the suns light"
You can go to answersingenesis one of the christian apologetics website

saintmark88:
Mayb u were sleeping or talking to d opposite sex wen he said tht and u missed it... Punch cnt fabricate stories

that's what I'm wondering too oo. Lol opposite sex

analice107:
What are you talking about?

you said it was a lie so I said wow why would they lie about that to paint a bad image

PureWays:
From Glory to Glory!

Well, what do you expect from these corrupt and hungry media.

Bishop David Oyedepo never said all these you posted @ Op.

I wonder why the media is trying so hard to paint him as evil.

lol are you serious?

Lucasiangrey:
true,some stuffs doesn't add up.now i know you are agnostic.every human have the right to be and most are but they hide it behind belief.

are you agnostic?

analice107:
I was in Pre-Shilo service this morning. The wrath of God was never mentioned once. He didnt even warn any Critic. chai lairs everywhere.

what will you gain by telling these kind of lies?

lol hewo I'm agnostic but it's not nice to lie like that oo but since you said pre Shiloh doesn't that mean it's not the main one

Lennycool:

Try again cause you missed the point.
Why is it that no pastor has ever regrown a human limb?
Get sense

just forget that guy

Lucasiangrey:
you are funny.from what i have read you converted your ignorance.i am nt insulting you please.what you just did,you asked questions,you don't have the anwers,meaning that you don't have the knowledge of the answers i.e ignorance and this where you based the fact that abrahamic god doesn't exist on.that is of course foolish,don't take this personal....

lol not at all bro
But what you just did is basically God of the gaps man. There are really things that don't add up. How did marsupials cross the indian ocean to get to the ark and then they went back from mount Ararat all the way in turkey and we didn't see evidence of their migration. It doesn't add up

Lucasiangrey:
(though,i am a christian,).what i do believe in for certain is the existence of god.all questions following your doubt of the existence of god just can not hold anything.let's just assume you are god,if you give answers to all the questions your creation asked,please what is then the superiority that should define the relationship of god with his creation?.say again god created you,what makes you think that a god that created human with two eyes,two ears and some other constant features can not create your reasoning capacity such that you only know what he wants you to know?.and if so,you must be wasting your time being an atheist,don't you think?

but why isn't God acting like the way he did in the bible he came down and did all sorts of things in the old testament he parted the red sea, made manna fall from heaven turned the river Nile to blood, wrote on walls in Babylon, he calmed storms in the new testament, raised the dead, fed the 5000 with a very meager quantity of food, healed an ear and other stuff. But now we don't see the laws of nature manipulated like that at all. Pastors claim to raise the dead but no pastor calmed hurricane Katrina. No extraordinary miracles. Can you believe a pastor put two hands of a boy together and said one was shorter than the other. I mean is this so desperate religion has become in this country. I've not been in this country for some time now but for the few months I've been around what I've seen from religion is just bad I'll soon be going for my astrophysics masters degree by next year I just joined this forum recently and the kind of things I see from organised religion sha is very saddening. I'm agnostic I don't really claim to know if there's a God or not but the Abrahamic God is not true. The concept of a supreme being is unknown. Noahs ark is a completely ignorant fairy tale. But why is he silent in modern times when he was busy gallivanting and disturbing the peace of the amalakites and ammonites and prophets of Baal in the old testament. Isn't this strange to you??

DoctorAlien:
Jesus did not commend Thomas' doubt/unbelief:

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." Jn. 20:29

I know he didn't . Why shouldn't he when Thomas was with him throughout his ministry. That Thomas messed up sha

DoctorAlien:
LOL Bro

It's not hard to see that they resemble their father.

Jesus recognized them: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do..." Jn. 8:44

lol nawa for you people oo. The devil was Thomas father Na
You do know he was in the company of jesus'
for 3 years and actually SAW his miracles
So he was actually stupid not to believe
Unlike me that I haven't seen sh*t

Lucasiangrey:
bro please,how did you know this?

well
He had no clue of what he was doing
Your should read up how people were cleaned up from leprosy in the bible
Then he had a "chosen people"
Why would the creator of everything have a preferred tribe and leave the rest of the world in darkness?
He created the earth in 3 days but the stars in 1 day?
How
He said the moon is a lesser light over the night when in reality the moon doesn't reflect it's own light
He didn't have the slightest clue of anything
And then don't get me started on the ark that is like the most ignorant story of all time

felixomor:
So how are you different from the devil here:

Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

LMAO abeg
nawa for you oo
Even Thomas wanted proof of jesus' resurection. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Didn't Abraham and Sarah laugh when God said he'd give her a child in old age?

felixomor:
So i must help u with that someone?
And make it come to pass abi?

lol yeah
The person said it's this before the end of the year so maybe you can help cuz I'll be out of here by January sooo at least let me be in awe like the disciples. I saw it on nairaland sef

felixomor:
Again, ur own interpretation of the bible.
Continue.

By the way I dont have the power to calm storms, only Jesus has. He can do through me.

lol yeah that's what I'm saying na. It's through jesus
Okay so have you calmed a storm through jesus?

SirWere:
Dude, tell me you're joking.




You can't be this deluded naaa

dude why are you even bothering

felixomor:
"Do all things" at your own bidding,

Yeah right.

lol not at my bidding. At least for the sake of somebody else. But that's what you people say na
Philippians 4:13
Have you calmed a storm before like Jesus Felix?
Not "storm of life"
Like a literal storm

Akdegreat:
I followed your argument and I must say 'this very analogy is flawed'. The limb is part of a human body, on the other hand, the television is not part of a vehicle.

lol not only that the person he's using the analogy for claims to be able to do all things unlike Mercedes that is only an automobile company. It's possible they can venture into electronics but the Abrahamic God is supposed to be an all powerful entity

felixomor:
Hahaha,
It makes so much sense.
Look at the person i replied. It perfectly answerd him.
Some body says God raised dead, you say he can raise dead but He cant grow limb?
Why?

Only a mumu does not know that the fact that He didnt grow limb doesnt change the fact that a dead man has been raised.

Unless u r that mumu.
Its quite obvious, though.

lol I see the problem here
You think the dead person was actually raised
Hehe
Chao

felixomor:
Ad hominem will forever remain the last resort of the hopeless atheist.
#pity

lol you're waiting for someone to refute your "comparing an automobile company to a supreme being and thinking you're making sense arguement"
Lol dey wait there

hopefuLandlurde:
Chai!!!

see thinking o!

I just tire ooooo
When I saw it I just shook my head
I honestly don't understand how easy it is for someone to be that stupid
I wonder why you're even bothering
Just leave him to be wallowing in his own feaces. It's obvious he seems to be having fun

*facepalm*

Well carl Sagan always said extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

felixomor:
I wont have answered u but for ur mentioning me.
Let me remind u also that it is also ur illogical way that brought 6,000 years age issue onto this thread.
Your swishing back n forth.
And besides, there are many other scientists who didnt work on evolution.
But as expected i know u will switch to start discussing something else

When ur initial argument was to look for scientists that are Christians.
Now the topic is evolution.
Mscheww,
SMH

lol I didn't argue that Felix
It's unmanly to hiss
You say evolution is a lie
You bring christian scientists that believe in evolution
And you now said I changed topic
Nawa for you oo

felixomor:
Fallacy of contradiction.
U r not certain but u can detect a lie?
How?
A blind man saying something is not black is obviously a liar.
You r the liar, actually.

lol mr man the Abrahamic God isn't the only God you know

felixomor:
Thank you. Keep keeping your mind open.

lol that just means I'm not certain of a God. The Abrahamic God is an obvious lie na

adoyi8:
Thanks but they are theistic evolutionists because of knowledge available in science today. They dont believe that God created the earth man in 6 days like most previous christian scientists (like Isaac newton )believe.

I tire for this Felixomor guy oo that's what I'm telling him and he's telling me "my logic is overdead" like he had logic to begin with. He didn't want to associate with ken ham that says the earth and the universe is 6000 years old but he's quick to mention christian scientists that work on a theory he doesn't believe in.
Please does this guy know what logic is. Obviously not. Since the logic of evolutionists is dead he should have used ken ham as an example since his own logic is alive

felixomor:
Where is the evidence? Have u seen it?

And let me remind u there ia evidence for miracles performed by God too.
Check wikipedia.

lol okay I will I keep an open mind. But you should know that the estimated biomass required to form fossil fuels would take millions of years to be accumulated. And not to mention starlight too