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Dude I'm an agnostic but you honestly post a lot of religious posts l just come here for fun arguments and to laugh at pseudoscience not to mention this should be the most active page in this entire forum. I advise you to calm down. I didn't leave religion in a day or even two years. It took time for me to accept that I've been living a lie same way it would be for other people

kevoh:
Marvyx, take a look at the pictures posted by Johnny. What is/are the logical explanation(s) to disprove that this man was finally able to walk? Would you have any reason to look at those pictures a million times over and still dispute that the man was able to walk?

I tire oo

Lennycool:
Ahh hopes of the deluded. Unlike you I actually read about the watch from a website that didn't contain end time craziness, you wonder what you could learn, when you just stop to learn first. The watches hasn't been given any purpose by Google yet, but because it supposedly contains a needle, its suppose to measure glucose levels in diabetic patients.
Also how on earth is a watch a mark I thought you guys said it was the RFID chip?
Just skipping dreams right?

dude forget this people abeg apparently uttering utter nonsense is the order of the day for them they were shouting of the RFID chip before. They even went as far to say Ronald Reagan was the antichrist. They want to feel so special to think anybody in this world gives a sh*t about their delusional beliefs
The summary of Christian salvation is basically
GOD: you are scum you are a worthless piece of sh*t basically what ever you think you do and think you are righteous is basically like horse sh*t before my eyes. You can't stand before me with your repulsive stench of iniquity no matter how good you have ever been or will ever be is not good enough. The only way you can even CONSIDER redemption is if you accept the human blood sacrifice I made for you 2000 years ago so you can receive salvation and if you do so much as lack a belief in it I will burn you for all eternity in a fire that the worms will eat your putrid flesh while the rest of your pathetic human race that accepted my ultimatum would continue to kiss my ass for all eternity cuz kissing my ass on earth was not enough
CHRISTIAN: *pause*.....sounds great!

Marvyx:
Lol.. Dude it is visible to the blind and audible to the deaf that your mind is closed.

Even if you see an evidence, you will still come up with logical explanation to disprove it.

A day of reckoning is coming when all truth will be revealed. I still earnestly pray that you will be saved before that day. Cheers

lol truth that what?
All eyes would see Jesus Christ
On an earth that ain't flat
With a flying horse?
So jesus can survive the vacum of space
Is he faster than the speed of light??
Why didn't he disappear since heaven isn't in this dimension. Instead he flew
Please which of the trillions of galaxies does he stay in cuz our closest galaxy andromeda it takes 2.5 million years for the light to reach earth. Anytime we look at it we are looking into the past
Unless jesus is somehow faster than the speed of light
How are you not realising this is bullshit??
You really have to face the fact that you are stardust but it's honestly a beautiful thing
The universe is basically in us and we are part of it. This is the greatest spiritual feeling anybody can ask for

The sad thing about christians is that they are so arrogant thinking that they have a special place in the universe. That's why they can poach animals and make them face the danger of extinction. They never ponder if animals feel pain or even have souls. Basically after all the universe was made for them. News flash it's not the universe hates us. We are on a crash course with the andromeda galaxy, there are rougue black holes. Gamma ray bursts that can destroy the earths ozone layer they happen like everyday in distant galaxies. There are large astriods that can end all life on this planet medium ones are as effective as a nuclear bomb and can cause a nuclear winter or bring us to another ice age. Not the mention the temperature of the universe is approaching absolute zero. Science is basically our way if outsmarting the universe but religious fundamentalists wouldn't let it be. Intellegent design is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard

[quote author=TomHagen post=50667214][/quote]actually we WOULD believe that's the point of evidence. The thought of heaven is beautiful who wouldn't like the idea. But I have come to the realization that it is basically a coping mechanism for the fear of our own mortality

TomHagen:
Speak for yourself. Say it isn't reliable for you. It is for many others.

okay. Don't take drugs when you're ill just go and meet benny hinn

PastorAIO:


Most British scientists in a new study dislike Richard Dawkins, with some arguing that he misrepresents science and is misleading the public.

Criticism of the British evolutionary biologist came up repeatedly in a new study looking at public understanding of science and how scientists feel that they are portrayed in the media – despite respondents never actually being asked about him. The research was published in a recent edition of Public Understandings of Science as part of a broader study looking at how scientists feel about religion.

they said he criticises religion too much. I basically agree with that but they didn't say anything about evolution being a lie. More of our ancestors DNA was just found in the pacific ocean but it isn't any of the established human species

johnydon22:
Asin eeeehn this is getting real bad and hot, wouldn't like to be him now

i was expecting at least pictorial evidence even if it's photoshopped but got a story as a meal...

The story of 'Three little pigs' is beginning to sound real to me now

something just as simple as this

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-09.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-38.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-49.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-67.jpg[/img]

Don't you just love science Don't claim it, just prove it!!!

lol if we could see that kind of thing for religion everyone would just follow Christ

TomHagen:
You see why it's useless to attempt to show anything? You'd just deny. You'd call videos and pictures doctored and also you have this erroneous thought that miracles are for your amusement. THEY ARE NOT!!

no offence to your beliefs but faith healing isn't reliable evidence usually most people that feel healed are basically feeling a placebo. There have been countless stories of people that died as a result not to mention that smith higgleworth guy had absurd ways of "healing" hitting people, punching them and things like that

JhyMedex:
If only religionist cld present there cases like dis...
Bt no they'll rather roll in n b calling people agents of darkness n threatening dem wit hell...
RabbiRabbi, Jesuobu n d likes...
Threatening pple in2 submission wins u no converts....
Just a bunch of fearful zombies...

Bro am saying it again plsssss as an enlightened soul I feel it's ur responsibility to educate pple on a mass scale....
Open that thread!!!!

lol don't mind them this is basically christian salvation summed up
GOD: you are scum you are a worthless piece of sh*t basically what ever you think you do and think you are righteous is basically like horse sh*t before my eyes. You can't stand before me with your repulsive stench of iniquity no matter how good you have ever been or will ever be is not good enough. The only way you can even CONSIDER redemption is if you accept the human blood sacrifice I made for you 2000 years ago so you can receive salvation and if you do so much as lack a belief in it I will burn you for all eternity in a fire that the worms will eat your putrid flesh while the rest of your pathetic human race that accepted my ultimatum would continue to kiss my ass for all eternity cuz kissing my ass on earth was not enough
CHRISTIAN: *pause*.....sounds great!
I guess buhhda and mahatma Ghandi are rotting in hell these are people that preached love and compassion
Christian salvation: When stupidity is exalted and taken pride in

The summary of Christian salvation is basically
GOD: you are scum you are a worthless piece of sh*t basically what ever you think you do and think you are righteous is basically like horse sh*t before my eyes. You can't stand before me with your repulsive stench of iniquity no matter how good you have ever been or will ever be is not good enough. The only way you can even CONSIDER redemption is if you accept the human blood sacrifice I made for you 2000 years ago so you can receive salvation and if you do so much as lack a belief in it I will burn you for all eternity in a fire that the worms will eat your putrid flesh while the rest of your pathetic human race that accepted my ultimatum would continue to kiss my ass for all eternity cuz kissing my ass on earth was not enough
CHRISTIAN: *pause*.....sounds great!

zyzxx:
one : there is nothing like lying for Jesus in the bible coz Jesus dont lie,
Your are trying to defend his statement and u end up falling into the trap where u quote him '" morck them"

Accept Jesus before it too late for you

lol you know what he looks like aren't you his friend. Introduce him to us. Introduce him to nairaland forum

winner01:
No one is saying anything. The communist leaders said it themselves.
https://www.nairaland.com/3283286/communist-leaders-atheists-there-difference

basically what you need to understand about communism is that a 100% utopian society has never been achieved. Most of Karl marxs' views were warped by idiots like Stalin Mao Zedong and pot pot. You should really stop looking at bias websites like conservepedia. I stumbled upon that website once and was shocked at the extreme dishonestly so as to paint atheism in thy baddest light possible. Saying somebody like Stalin did all those killings under the banner of atheism is just like saying that all Christians must be evil because Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic, casually disregarding the numerous positive contributions Christians such as Martin Luther King have brought to society. Atheists and agnostics have contributed a lot to society. Stalin basically wanted to start a personality cult. I looked at the first quote in your article and saw it was quote mined to fit your views which is rather dishonest.Religious socialism still exists, as the system of communism is itself NOT opposed to religion, and indeed, many Christians with socialist sympathies have drawn on the words of Jesus himself in defense of socialism and other anti-capitalist social teachings.Marx did not advocate the banning of religion, instead he argued that it is simply a way to cope and see something bright at the end of the tunnel when one is faced with the injustices of feudal and capitalist society, and says that the criticism of religion is thus the criticism of the conditions that breed it. In a later interview Marx dismissed violence against religion a d regarded it as nonsense. He felt that as socialism grows, religion would disappear and it's disappearance must be done by social development, in which education must play a part. I saw that in your article and that quote was true. Unfortunately despite Marx's view that religion could co-exist with communism, many communist states have cracked down on religious groups or banned them altogether. Basically anyone that they saw as a threat was killed not just christians alone so how is this Karl Marx's fault. I said earlier that his views were waroed by most 20th century world leaders. I watched your videos on irrational athiests and couldn't help but to feel embarrassed at their actions though. It's people like them that make people like you think athiests or agnostics are angry at God. Most atheists are supportive of secularism. You can basically believe what you want to believe but you don't really have to force it down everyone's throats. Most atheists basically start being outspoken when fundamental christians take away rights from homosexuals. Christians spew out so much hatred for gay people and go and start protesting outside in the street against them saying they'll burn in hell and basically things from christian theology. They call themselves "God's people," "the chosen people," "the elect," "the righteous," etc., while nonbelievers have been labeled "heathens," "infidels," and "atheistic Communists" (as if atheism and Communism are intimately connected it's actually tiring telling christians this). Up until well into the 20th century in the United States and other Christian countries (notably Ireland) the churches pressured governments into passing laws forbidding the sale and distribution of birth control devices, and they also managed to enact laws forbidding even the description of birth control devices. Not to mention that in the 15th century about the time of Columbus's discovery of the New World, Spain's Jews were ordered either to convert to Christianity or to flee the country about half chose exile, while those who remained, the "Conversos," were favorite targets of the Inquisition plus
the Catholic Church banned the Copernican theory (that the Earth revolves around the sun) and banned Galileo from teaching they did not consider the evidence for that theory it was enough that it contradicted scripture so I guess it was false. I'm sure you would never allow your child to study something like evolutionary biology or cosmology because it coflicts with your world views. This is basically what someone like me would be against. How would mankind continue to innovate if religion keeps holding us back. There are young minds that would be sharp to help us to understand our world and universe and make it a better place for us to live. We need to continue innovation and were can only help ourselves. The universe is a dangerous place and it is trying to kill us. Science is basically a way of outsmarting the universe. We need young minds that would continue this strategy and would not be held down by religious beliefs. Science is an irrefutable methodology. Religion is not. Therefore they are basically mutually exclusive Science is able to make accurate predictions.Edwin Hubble first obtained proof the universe was expanding in 1929. Different astronomers proposed different explanations for this, but the most revolutionary proposal was that the universe had been expanding for billions of years.the scientists pursuing the Big Bang model looked for a prediction they could test something creationists wouldn't do They realized that if the universe had begun as a rapidly expanding ball of hot gas 14 billion years ago, the heat from that gas should still be visible as a faint glow coming from every direction, far beyond our galaxy. In 1948, they used their theoretical calculations to predict the exact color and exact temperature of the glow they expected to find.in 1964, astronomers in New Jersey detected a faint microwave glow initially nothing more than a “hiss” on their radiotelescope coming from the very edge of the visible universe, exactly as the Big Bang Theory predicted. The glow was just three degrees warmer than empty space, and exactly the same color as calculations 24 years earlier had said it would be. Today, spacecraft have imaged this glow referred to in cosmology as the Cosmic Microwave Background, or CMB coming from every corner of the sky, clearly enough to produce this radiophotograph of the hot, dense universe almost 14 billion years ago one of the strongest prices of evidence plus redshift and the abundance of different elements in the universe.Science doesn’t care whether I am a Christian or an agnostic, it only demands testable predictions and empirical evidence and basically the evidence right now its coming from people who aren't letting religous dogma get the better of them. We would need evidence that rock layers could somehow form in just 4000 years we would need evidence that somehow you can reset atomic clocks and keep neutrons from becoming protons. Bring on any of those things and I'll be a creationist. Not to mention the thought of a powerful being having a "chosen people" is incredibly racist and then having the mind to torture me in a burning fire for all eternity for something as trivial as unbelief I simply find that as an insult to the creator of the universe. Science doesn’t rule out a creator; it just provides us with information about the universe. So that's why I cant claim to say there is no God. I respect thiestic scientists a lot. Isaac newtons equations for momentum and kinetic energy are still right but only at lower speeds basically as long as the speeds involved are less than the speed of light. So basically as astrophysicist and my personal favourite scientist Neil degrasse Tyson said' if you want to use God as the basis for things you can't explain then God will remain an ever receeding pocket of scientific ignorance"

winner01:
Okay. Like everyday of your life

lol no im not busy at the moment. Btw you really should stop saying communist leaders killed because of atheism.

[quote author=winner01 post=50648573]Okay. Is that why you are on a

winner01:
Okay. Is that why you are on a religion section

the arguments are funny plus I also like to laugh at pseudoscience and this place is crawling with it. Not to mention the Richard dawkin thread

winner01:
You care naa. If you didnt, you wouldnt be here in the first place.

No field interferes with religious beliefs, i dont understand why y'all want us to choose between God and science.

lol we don't want you can believe in God all you want but when it comes to fields that question God don't interfere. After all didn't you say dark matter isn't real

winner01:
The are both exhibiting behaviours that are not christ-like according to what the oP confirmed .. They should be punished.

and I guess you are "Christ like". I should believe you have calmed a storm before. After all his followers are supposed to be greater than him

winner01:
Actually you do, you all do.


And science is exclusively for non-religious people

Who did you say you are again

if you are a scientist in a field that interferes with religious beliefs drop it. It's that simple. And honestly I really don't care. It was even you that said dark matter is "magic". It is affecting your religious beliefs and you don't want to drop it. Okay that's great

RabbaRabbi:
one day, you will come to realise that you took the most grevious decision and lived the most care free life. when we cease to exist in this life, then, reality becomes more real than we could imagine. i pray you dont get caught by this merciless trap you have set for yourself.

since you have seen this alternate reality before I guess you can tell me about it. I don't leave a care free life. Lacking a belief in a deity does not make me an evil person or "care free" I don't drink or smoke cuz they are bad for my health. I don't sleep around because it's not right.. I like to immense myself in books or go and see movies with friends in my spare time and I help and person to the best of my ability if an all loving being is willing to torture me for all eternity for something as trivial as lack of belief then it is not worth considering

I couldn't care less what christians believe. They should just stop saturating science with religious beliefs I'm agnostic sha but I know the universe is no way intelligently designed. There are rougue black holes. The andromeda galaxy avg milky way galaxy are on a collision course. There are gamna ray bursts that can roast off the ozone layer completely from the earths atmosphere. This happens like on a daily basis in the distant universe. A medium asteroid is as dangerous as a nuclear bomb and can cause a nuclear winter A large Astriod can totally Bleep up the earth completely. Stars can go supernova. Though the sun isn't big enough to explode , the stars far away could still strip our ozone layer, much like a gamma ray, and send that radiation pouring down on our heads all over again There was a lot of panic that Betelgeuse in the Orion constellation was going to explode in 2012 and kill us all.
It didn't but it's possible. The temperature of the universe is approaching absolute zero
There are mini black holes that weigh as much as earth and if should be pulled into our gravitational orbit will Bleep us all up. The great red spot in Jupiter is a storm that has been going on for over a 100 years. Storms quakes ad cyclones happen in planets with nob existing life. With all this I highly doubt if there's any ominibenevolent anything that is watching our backs but my agnostic stance wouldn't allow me to say I'm certain. The universe is trying to kill us and we need to outsmart the universe but religious people wouldn't let science be. Somebody said global warming is a lie. I tried to inform him that that's not true and he called me a zombie
I was just like

RabbaRabbi:
yeah. all eyes will see him including you that is denying him.

I have to be honest with you I admire the character of jesus. I look at him like I look at Buddha. But it's the extraordinary claims I can't believe. Jesus when claimed his followers' would do more than him. I've never seen natural laws be defied currently like the way it was in biblical times. Which pastor has ever calmed a storm and walked on water. The earth is a sphere. You can't survive the vacuum of space and horses can't fly. There are 2 billion christians on the planet. Jesus fed the 5000 2 billion of you could feed the entire worlds population 5000 times over. Aren't you supposed to be greater than jesus'. He appeared to over 500 people during his resurrection according to the book of Corinthians but now if you pray for such a thing nothing happens. Why?? Because he is imaginary. In the sense of being the son of God anyway I'd advise you to wake up. I believed in all this before now I know better.

QuietHammer:
Did you watch the video? Will you condescend to nonbelievers in such words?

lol I was so surprised the letters where so funny. Richard Dawkins has not really attacked christians directly. He just feels religion would hinder mankind from continuing to innovate. Not to mention the christians that are against evolution don't even understand it enough to even know what they're taking about
Kent hovind one of the anti evolution adcvocates went to two unaccredited American schools. Richard Dawkins on the other hand went to oxford and was taught by a Nobel prize winning biologist. Stephen jay Gould went to Harvard. He's late now though. Cosmologist Stephen hawking went to oxford. Neil degrasse Tyson astrophysicist and one of my personal favourite scientists went to Harvard. Jared diamond went to Harvard. Staurt kauffmand went to oxford. Lisa randall went to harvard. That are highly trained scientists Most of them went to some of the best schools in the world. Kirk Cameron is an actor. Ray comfort didn't go to a tertiary institute. Ken ham has a diploma. You'd have to admit that this is not a fair fight
See Kent hovinds school below. It's a university

Woow this is a plus Christianity for sure athiests and agnostics are soo deluded. Why can't they just take everything with blind faith and totally close their minds from reason??
Why?
We were called sheep a lot of times in the bible why don't some people just want to be like sheep
Don't they realise when Jesus comes on his flying horse all eyes would see him because we are on a flat earth??

Lennycool:
So because he created them its now okay to let them suffer?
If so he is wicked

creationists like Special pleading. "God is special". Nevermind the fact that they are not able to rationally justify his "specialness", nor do they even try to explain why his "specialness" should allow for flagrant disregard for even the most basic of morals. They assert that "He created the world, so he gets to do what he wants to it" - which is just backing up nonsense with more nonsense. Lets say for example I breed a sentient species of ants. They can create art. They share ideas with each other. They feel pain. Some of them have learned to talk to me, and some of them have even started to worship me.

I should totally be able to piss all over those ants. I'll kill them in so many creative ways... I'll drown them, light them on fire, crush them - even the ones who worship me. But it's fine, and I'm totally not a dick, because I created them.

What utter horse sh*t
It's better to be a deist than believe in a personal God

TomHagen:
What pressing matters? Why do assume that the things that you consider pressing are the same things that are pressing to Him?

ummm I just think its selfish to say " God has been so good in my life" when there are people that are living below minimum wage or people born with life threatening conditions people with physical and mental disabilities and then one yeye Pentecostal man of God with a 4 billion dollar gulfstream G360 private jet would ask you for 10% of your monthly income and then basically use it for the church more than the society and for plane maintenance so the church would be like the "it church" it's more like a competition on who can build the largest auditorium's than actually saving people. They can have like to four or five jets and yet they can't buy a cargo plane then untop of that be prophesising doom to a nation that has turned their back against God saying he would bring upon more wrath and destruction and tell you to pray and "sow a seed" to avert it cuz basically this is as malevolent as someone can get. I'd rather give my money to charity personally than give it to any church. It honestly baffles my mind why a man of God that claims the end is near and says things like do not hope for an earthly reward would be having 4 private jets. Not one but four. Crefo dollar told his church members to donate money for a jet cuz God revealed to him he needed one. And they were actually going to do it.

hopefulLandlord:
lol, I guess his pathetic excuse of a holy spirit that "guides and reveal" things to him told him that name which happened to be wrong name

lmao, it calls to question his sense of judgement or maybe the holy spirit is just another figment of his wild imagination? okay that explains it

lol is it not the same way ray comfort was also disgraced. You'd think God would have revealed to him thy banana was artificially selected

JSoE:
Lmao @christains

Nice thread, Lennycool. As expected,they came down in droves to defend the selfishness in their religion.

They won't do anything helpful about the poor children but to send them [b]INEDIBLE[\b] bibles and prayers that don't do shi.t

SMH.

lol this is basically prayer summed up. But wait oo christians say things like God will use his Jewish powers to punsh a nation for turning their back on him. But there are other pressing matters to attend to naa. There are people that are still living in agony and yet he still has time for divine retribution
*sigh*
Yahweh sha . No deity could be more man made than him
Yahweh shaa

Lol

felixomor:
If u like keep trying to forceffully add people to ur fold,
An agnostic is one thousand times better than atheist.
Dont even try to mash them up like ur colleague was trying to do just now.


Moreover if i had a dubious mind like u guys, i would create threads to explain how atheists who give to charity are using it for selfish reasons.
But i wont do that.



And then who told u "nigerian pastors' are the model for christianity?

lol it's actually people like them that make agnostics like us question if they even practise what they preach

winner01:
Oga, God helped me to find my trouser Kill yourself.

lol that's great I'm happy for you