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Lennycool1:
I doubt that as a christian you've ever truly thought about the very flawed logic of God answering your everyday trivial prayers.

People ask God for mundane things like
Passing exams
Marrying
Getting a job
Making money
Sunny weather


The list goes on and on and apparently you can ask God for anything(though it doesn't mean he'll always answer you) and when you do get what you asked for, no matter how trivial your request was, you'll instantly think God did it.

"My God has done it for me" is a very popular sentence for the religious, but what they fail to understand is that the moment you claim God answered your prayers it means he left these people

lol no oo lennycool you know natural disasters are usually the Abrahamic Gods way of punishing gay people. Or you don't remember the flood. You know how he hates homosexuals. The other people affected are basically collateral damage. He likes hurricanes a lot though
Also in the 1980s, God (or possibly Allah - credit is disputed), furious at all the gayness going on since the 60s, created a disease that claimed gay men, heterosexuals of both sexes, the wives of cheating husbands, many recipients of blood transfusions, and babies born to infected mothers. AIDS more or less ignored lesbians, who had received favor in His sight for being "Just so frickin' hot
In 2001, God (Allah?) exacted vengeance upon a building full of people from all over the world to punish America for allowing itself to become secular and gay so it's just like basically divine retribution

frank317:
We are actually not blaming God for anything
You are the ones who blame God for petty positive things that happens in your life not knowing that you are indirectly blaming him for all the evils too.

Winner out rightly said it that he gives thanks to God both in joy and in tears... Tell me, is he not blaming God for both his pain and joy?

they even say nonsense like "God helped them find their car keys"

frank317:
We are actually not blaming God for anything
You are the ones who blame God for petty positive things that happens in your life not knowing that you are indirectly blaming him for all the evils too.

Winner out rightly said it that he gives thanks to God both in joy and in tears... Tell me, is he not blaming God for both his pain and joy?

some people are stupid enough to say God helped them find their car keys

EyeHateGod:
Bill gates is an atheist so M i but On knowledge We are Agnostic!

well to be honest bill gates did say "I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know."

It is very much clear that Bill Gates works on Moral beliefs rather than on religious ones.
Creationists quote mine this to say "bill gates believes in God" but he's right even if you believe in a deity or not what difference would it make in your life. There are better things to involve your time into than religion. Bill gates is smart enough to realise that it doesn't matter. It is obvious he has deistic views not gnostic thiest views

I honestly tend not to care what thiests believe anymore. It is obvious their God is imaginary. We don't know what the cause of the universe is. There is mo truth only human opinion But basically let them just stop saturating science with creationist pseudoscientific nonsenses. Today somebody said dark matter does not exist. I was so pissed. Do you really have to be so dishonest because you want to believe in a deity so badly. And christians are supposed to be moral

It's pointless arguing with young earth creationsts piddgin would likely tell you germ theory of disease is still a theory and it has not been proven germs cause diseases. Or that cell theory is a theory and it has not been proven that cells are the basic unit structure of all organisms. the OP doesn't even want to understand what that a scientific theory is not an assumption. That it is not the everyday use of a theory. The everyday use of a theory us is a guess. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiments. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. But does piddgin want to listen oooh no. I explained evidence that supports the big bang but it is still a "theory". If someone doesn't want to listen to this basic explanation the person wouldn't listen for anything else

The stupidity has gone in too deep

SirShifty:
You are showing an emotional bias here, if anything archeology proves very little in the Bible is factual it may mention ancient cities or customs which are accurate but apart from that the stories are certainly untrue.

The biggest fabrication in the Bible is the Israelites being slaves in Egypt, even Israeli archeologists have admitted the story is unsubstantiated. The whole story is fiction which is the main reason the Pharaoh in the Exodus story is not named, if they did people could have easily investigated the story and the truth would have come out

I was telling these creationists oo. There is little evidence of that. Several thousand years ago, a small tribe of ignorant near-savages wrote various collections of myths, wild tales, lies, and gibberish. Over the centuries, the stories were embroidered, garbled, mutilated, and torn into small pieces that were then repeatedly shuffled. Finally, this material was badly translated into several languages successively. The resultant text, creationists feel, is the best guide to this complex and technical subject
New horizon explored Pluto last year and the first manned mission to mars is scheduled for 2030. Meanwhile during this time Nigeria is "hoping" to launch a man into space
It's just sad

ayobase:
Seun Osewa, is there any sense in that?

You believe Socrate, Plato, Williams Shakespeare and among others once existed, but you don't believe Jesus Christ was once here.

You believe in many history books written, but you don't believe in the Bible.

lol the problem is the extraordinary claims. When Jesus died zombies walked the earth and then he "flew" to heaven. I thought heaven wasn't in this dimension why did he fly rather than just disappearing. Is he faster than the speed of light
And then he is coming back on a flying horse??
All eyes would see him
On a spherical earth
* sigh*
A teacher like Jesus existed but all those claims were grossly exageratted. Not to mention he is portrayed as Caucasian in the media and pictures of him. Isn't he a Jew??

DeSepiero:
Just in time to display stupidity!!
Come on shut the fvck up.

the comment was a classic example of the personal incredulity fallacy - because you do not understand how something works you just assume it wasn't true. I was just looking at the comment like

orisa37:
They don't like Theists.

lol no not really I have creationist friends what I don't like about them is that they totally ignore scientific research and knowledge. I'm not talking in evolution now but other fields of science simply because it does not allign with their beliefs. When I was younger I was like this too. Now I know better. Though I'm agnostic the Abrahamic God is not the creator of the universe

Pidggin:
Sometimes I wonder at the way you athiests reason. Have you heard of Nebucadnezzah? He was worshipped as a god even though he was a mere mortal, king xerxes Esther's husband was also worshipped by his people, many kids in those times asked their subjects to worship team. Show me evidence that Zeus was more than flesh and blood not just his temple. The Greeks worship anything and inscribe these gods with super human powers.

Even Egyptian historians admit that their history has some flaws "Even when full use have been made of the king's list and from all subsidiary sources as has survived, the indispensable dynastic framework of Egyptian history shows lamentable gaps and many doubtful attributions... What is proudly advertised as Egyptian history is merely a collection of rags and tatters " Sir Alan Gardiner

The Sothic cycle was never mentioned in any Egyptian text therefore the established dates of Egyptian chronology cannot be matched

You argue unnecessarily, smh

you really should have explained how marsipials crossed the indian ocean. Abeg when the Greeks were worshipping Zeus why didn't Yahweh reveal himself that he was the true god. The creator of the universe would not be as idiotic as this. After all the was showing himself to the prophets of Baal by sending fire down from heaven while the Greeks, the Aztecs and the Inca empire were wallowing in ignorance and then made up thier own gods After all the bible prophesied the Egypt would be a wasteland for 40 years FAIL Egypt would speak the language of the Canaanites FAIL. Because king tutunkhamen existed does that make ra real??
*facepalm* . The supposed hanging towers of Babylon have never been seen
Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven
Jesus told the high priest that he would see his second coming. The high priest is long dead, and Jesus hasn't returned yet so FAIL
In Ezekiel 26:7-14 God explicitly stated that Nebuchadnezzar would completely sack and destroy the city of Tyre and that Tyre's land would never be built upon again. However, this never occurred. After a 13-year siege, Tyre compromised with Nebuchadnezzar and accepted his authority without being destroyed. Despite being conquered and razed by Alexander the Great 240 years later, Tyre still exists. FAIL
jesus would be from the line of David from the male line. Jesus had no human father so he couldn't have possibly been from the line of David from the male line so FAIL.
Christian apologetics whisk jesus' failed prophecy of his return on the fact that he was talking about the transfiguration. When he said some of you standing here wont taste death till the son of man returns but it was only in Mathew that the statement was made before the transfiguration and it made after in other texts. I wish christian apologetics agreed on the same thing. I really do. I would have a reason to believe that God revealing the same answers to them. But this is not the case . But don't worry jesus is coming back. All eyes would see him even though we are on a spherical earth. Didn't apostle john say he had a two edged sword in his mouth apparently the kind of LSD he was on was only available in the island of patmos. Did I mention he's coming on a flying horse??
*facepalm*
you can continue to asskiss the Jewish skydaddy and his skyson... That is also him
And btw dear Zeus wasn't a king he was a God. The God of lighting in Greek mythology. Greek mythology is way more interesting than Jewish mythology. Zeus was a god you really should go and read on it he was not" flesh and blood" none of the Olympian Gods were "flesh and blood"

basically what u said on stars doesn't seem to make any cosmological sense because Dark matter is not "magic" first of all matter tends to come together all the time. It's called gravity. If you have enough of it, gas comes together. Roughly speaking, if the gravitational energy is large enough to overcome various pressures, you get a collapse. This doesn't happen on earth, but there are pictures of it happy happening all over the galaxy. How is dark matter made up for pete's sake . there is much more mass in the universe than we can currently detect. There are measurements of galactic rotations and galaxy cluster dynamics, along with other evidence. It is this hypothetical undetected mass that has been named "dark matter." Roughly 23% of thy universes energy is dark matter although there have been modifications to the dark matter with other gravitational theories like modified newton dynamics. It is quite good for predicting the rotation curves of galaxies but it does not easily explain the excess of mass in the galaxy. Dark matter accounts for certain features in the CMB power spectrum right now so right now it's the best hypothesis we've got cuz it accurately explains cosmological and galactic data. Wait ooooooooo did you say supernovas' are not common events in a galaxy like thy milky way a supernova can occur once in about 50 years but in the distant galaxy stars explode like every second and the big bang is not an explosion for the last time nobody said the universe doesn't have a beginning. It is expanding so it obviously started at a point. Red shift of light has proven this. The thermal heat left from the early expansion (CMB) has been observed. Since the universe was initially very hot at it's beginning the CMB is the reminsnt of what was left. This is more proof the theory is on the right track God honestly does not solve the problem. A creator that has always existed is an entity that has somehow existed without a cause. We are trying to understand the universe why can't you leave us to understand it naaaaaa. If God is thy best explanation for you that's fine but do you just expect us to leave years of astronomy and cosmology findings to say God did it so lets just not bother on observing the universe. Several thousand years ago, a small tribe of ignorant near-savages wrote various collections of myths, wild tales, lies, and gibberish. Over the centuries, the stories were mutilated, and torn into small pieces that were then repeatedly shuffled. Finally, this material was badly translated into several languages successively. The resultant text, creationists feel, is the best guide to this complex and technical subject. Woooow that's great. The best part is you can pick any God you feel like. I'm agnostic but it's obvious that doesn't solve the problem. For Gods sake studying CMB background alone even shows dark matter exists. What is wrong with creationists. Dark matter is made up?
*facepalm*. The rotational speed of stars around a galaxy should drop off as you get further from the centre. Instead it tends to stay almost constant. This implies that there is invisible mass away from the galactic centre
Modelling of the universe gives the correct results if dark matter is included in the situation DARK MATTER IS NOT "MAGIC"!!! Does this look like woman forming out of a mans rib *facepalm*
and as for thy inflation theory there is evidence that supports it the Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) probe was launched in 1992 and its initial results confirmed almost exactly the amount of variation in the CMB background radiation that was predicted by the theory
It's okay to believe in a deity if you want but you don't really have to take the whole of science down because of your beliefs. This is just God of thy gaps all over again. And btw dark matter exists

LaClicKLaBenDin:
I don't know how people see atheists, but through my interactions with them on this forum, and knowing very well how the devil operates, I can confidently say that atheist are not just people who do not believe in God, they do, but the thing is; majority of them are actually against God, and are consciously evangelising for the devil by turning people away from God, by putting doubts in the hearts of the weak and intending believers.

These are the end times, believers should be smart.

If you're widely read in issues that border on how the devil operates, you'd understand that, the most potent weapon satan has been using is denial and ignorance. Since that hasn't worked out just fine, he has now sent out agents through atheism, to make people live in total denial of anything spiritual, thereby making it easy for people not only to disbelieve in God, but at the same time live in totally denial of satan's existence, thereby making it easier for operate and work on them.

I'm not saying that all atheist are agents of satan, but majority are, while others are just weak-minded Christians or non-believers who were led into atheism ignorantly.

You can say what you want, but I can never be ignorant of the devices of the devil.

"My people perish for lack of knowledge"

lol yeah that's great

Pidggin:
It seems you require knowledge. Archeological evidences support the bible. Why don't you research before posting. There are far too many biblical truths that have been supported by archeological findings so far, this is why I do not have any issues with it

lol everything would not be made up na duuurh. For one I know king Hezekiah existed. But if you want to say that we should all be beliviving in the fucking Greek gods and all start reading the Iliad and the odessy cuz they also have "archeological" evidence of thier existance.
The temple of Athena is real
There are statues of Zeus
The iliad and the oddessy at dedicated to thy Greek Gods
Oooh ny God!!!! *gasp* Zeus is real?!!!!!
Btw there is no atchrolgicak evidence for a ruined boat on top of mount aratat in turkey.
Abeg how did marsupial animals that live in far away Australia now cross the indian ocean. All the kangaroos and wombats and Tasmanian devils, thy pygmy possums, diprontodontias... How did they cross the indian ocean to get to a wooden boat and then after going all the way to the middle east. How did they mow come back and we have not seen fossils of their migration. Or none of them stopped in another continent along the way and bred. How . Plus there isn't significant archeological evidence that thy istealutes were ever slaves in Egypt. Thy Egyptians are excellent record keepers. Thy bible never mentions the pyramids of Giza and the sphinx. One of the two wonders of the ancient world. And what you asked about the age of the earth it's what ken ham and his fellow creation " scientists" say. You can tell them you stop abeg please anyway lemme show you Zeus and the Greek gods are real. There is so much archeological evidence that Zeus existed soo soo much
Stop using circular reasoning for biblical claims.
-statue of Zeus
-temple of Athena
-altar of Zeus
-iliad and the odyssey
Olympian Gods are 100% legit

Niflheim:
@OP,

When will you learn? Are you trapped in a gravitationally collapsed star made out of "digital buffoonery"?!!! Why do you do this to yourself?!!!

I stopped taking your post seriously when I read this part:..............?"How come dogs have not yet turned into finches?"

This part was also 'super-retarded': .........................."We know about Micro-Evolution, but there is no evidence for Macro-Evolution!!!"

The evidence is glaring that after so many years of debates and discussions, you still do not understand what Evolution is!!!

You claim that atheists abuse you based on your "low mental capacity", and you can still repeat such statements as , "how come a dog has not yet changed into finches?"

Are you the one who claims he has some heavy info for Cloudgoddess?!!!

Let me tell you something as a friend, this is not heavy info.......................THIS IS HEAVY STUPIDITY!!!

just forget this people even if evolution was a lie they still don't have a case. There is enough evidence against a recent creation and an even older universe from other fields of science I had to start explaining why a young universe isn't possible because of starlight. It's just sad. Let them come and mess up astrophysics with creationist nonsense and that's where I'll really get annoyed

urahara:
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I swear I'm tired creationists like this make me sad nit because they aren't intellegent but because they are basically ignoring evidence because of an ancient book. How would mankind continue to innovate and create and move forward if everybody was like this. I actually assumed evolution was a lie and I gave her evidence from other fields of science to back up the fact that earth isn't 6000 years old ad she just said they were "theories"

Pidggin:
And this is the best they could come up with. She didn't die? You must have been there to verify her statement as false

Why should anyone waste time explaining his/her experience with God to you when all you will do is to look for ways to counter it. Show me evidence that the world was created by a big bang (no theories)

No one is talking of lottery here, a healing took place no one played a game here

the big bang is not an explosion
It is more like an expansion. Like a balloon inflating some good evidence is the fact that the universe is still expanding so which means it started from a singularity though I don't know what started it( reason I'm agnostic )
Cosmic background radiation- the thermal radiation left from the heat. At the beginning of the universe it was very hot. So the CMB observed now is basically the glow of the early expansion left behind and it has been observed.
Red shift. Light travels to Earth from other galaxies. As the light from that galaxy gets closer to Earth, the distance between Earth and the galaxy increases, which causes the wavelength of that light to get longer it's similar to the Doppler effect I don't know if you are physics inclined but an example is as an ambulance approaches you, the siren pitch seems to increase, and as it moves away from you, the siren pitch decreases. We are observing a "lower" pitch with light "lower" means more red and "higher" means more blue thus the name red shift plus as the Universe expanded and cooled down, some of the elements that we see today were created. The theory predicts how much of each element should have been made in the early universe, and what is see in very distant galaxies and old stars is just right. Thy universe is not 6000 years old. The speed of light is finite I say this a lot if the universe was 6000 years old we aren't supposed to see light other than 6000 light years. But we do. The andromeda galaxy shouldn't exist if the universe is that young. We are seeing it how it looked 2.5 million years ago when it was still in its early stages so the light it is emitting right now wouldn't reach us until 2.5million years later. Our nearest star proxima centuri is 4 light years away from earth. If it should explode right now we wouldn't know until 4 years by
later( scientists will anyway lol) but we just wont see the explosion until 4 years into the future. No information travels faster than light....well radio waves too anyway they both have the same speed so if you are looking at a landing on mars with the help of radio waves the time the spaceship would have landed would have been prior to when you actually viewed it. So yeah sha that's why the universe can NEVER be just 6000 years

Pidggin:
They all include theories which are unproven. Archeology and linguistics actually substantiates the existence of many things in the Bible.

do you realise the Mesopotamian civilisation is older than 6000 years? What where they doing when the Abrahamic God was creating the world Do you realise that the old tjokk tree in Sweden is 6900 years. Do you realise that the speed of light is finite. Do you realise that because of this it is not as fast in the vacum of space as it is in earth?? Do you realise that light from the andromeda galaxy should NOT exist if the universe is a mere 6000 years because there would there wouldn't be enough time for it to get to earth. Do you realise that it takes 8 minutes for the suns light to reach the earth. Therefore we never see the sun in the present. Our second nearest star proxima centuri is 4 light years from earth. If proxima centuri should explode right now we wouldn't know until four years later cuz that's how long it'll take the light to reach us. The andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million light years from earth. The light are seeing from it now emmitted 2.5million years ago. do you realise because of this the universe can NEVER be 6000 years old. Do you realise the biomass fossil fuels like coal and oil would take millions of years to form. Do you realise that because Aristotle existed does not mean Hercules did?? Do you realise that there is no significant archeological evidence that the istealutes were ever slaves in Egypt. Do you realise that this is odd because the Egyptians are excellent record keepers. Do you realise that the heliocentric theory is a theory. Do you realise cell theory is still a theory. Do you realise the theory of General Relativity( gravity) is still a theory. Do you realise germ theory is still a theory
Do you realise that apart from evolution you are basically ignoring and throwing away years of scientific research and findings into the trash and assuming an ancient book that said God sits on the "circle" of the earth and said the earth has "quarters" is correct when it thought the earth was the centre of our universe * sigh*

OLAADEGBU:
What is the truth, do you know truth if it hits you in the face? Is Wiki your evidence? There is evidence of recent creation. It is up to you to back up your claims with evidence.

stop saying the earth is 6000 years old. Do you realise if that is true we aren't supposed to see starlight farther than 6000 light years?? Do you realise the speed of light is about 156000m\s which means it is finite. It is fast enough to circumnavigate the earth 7.5 times in a second but since it has a finite speed it would be slower in the vacuum of space. It takes 8 light minutes for the suns light to get to earth. That means we never see what the sun looks like in the present we always see it 8 minutes prior. Proxima centuri our second nearest star is 4 light years away from earth. That means that if proxima centuri should explode right now we wouldn't know until 4 years later. The light from the explosion would get to us four years later. The andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million light years from earth. We are seeing it how it looked 2.5million years ago it's present light wouldn't get to us until 2.5 million years. If there was life in the andromeda galaxy and they look at the milky way galaxy through a telescope they would be seeing it way earlier than it actually is same with us. Stop saying the earth is 6000 years old. Apart from this very obvious reason even if evolution was a lie do you know how many branches of science you'd have to ignore to harbor trust belief. They include but are not limited to
Geology
Fossil fuels
Plate tectonics- have you observed that Africa and south America seem to fit like a jigsaw puzzle. Currently the continents are still drifting apart and it has been observed by satellites
Reaction kinetics — the rate that amino acids undergo racemisation (conversion to an equal mix of stereoisomers) is a well known process that occurs at a specific rate. It can therefore be used as a dating method and has shown biological molecules to be far older than 6000 years.
Fossil fuels- I'm not assuming evolution now but I'm saying the biomass required to form coal and oil underground would take millions of years to be accumulated
Radiometric dating- it is accurate it was accurately used to detect the time mount Vesuvius erupted and engulfed the roman city of Pompeii. Since new rocks were formed from the eruption argon- argon dating was used ty calculate the date. It erupted in 79CE and the results of the rock was 1918 years before 1997 cuz that was the year it was tested. Not to mention rock brought from the moon are older than 6000 years
Anthropology- dude there are civilisations older than 6000 years The Mesopotamians are a good example. When the Abrahamic God was creating they just dey look am.
botany- The old tjkko tree in Sweden is over 9500 years old. The earth and the universe is NOT 6000 years
Stop it dude please stop saying that

You like attacking evolution theory a lot OP.
Do you realise that even if evolution was a lie there are still a lot of scientific branches you'd have to ignore you believe in a 6000 year old earth and universe. Braches like
Astronomy
Anthropology
Archeology
Paleantology
Linguistics
Fossil fuels
Plate tectonics
Radiometric dating
Note I'm not adding biological sciences cuz I'm saying evolution is a lie

[quote author=mohemos post=50571995][/quote]umm the picture is wrong. You are assuming evolution is linear. It is more branch like. We have a common ancestor with monkeys we didn't evolve from them directly

UyiIredia:
Oh you think I didn't say anything reasonable. LOL. Your reasoning has clearly been compromised.

are you a diest? Lol you guys both criticise athiest and gnostic thiests. You know most unbelibers are agnostic rather than just outrightly saying there is no God......well except Stephen hawking. In his 2010 book the grand design He said a quote that states "because there a law such as gravity the universe can and will create itself for nothing". I was surprised his editors let him get away with that

felixomor:
I thought by now u will have produced the page that supports u that it doesnt exist.
Moreover Wikipedia used to be ur favourite textbook reference na.

By the way, who have u oppressed before with your ape knowledge before?

Mscheweee

Ódè!

wikipedia used to be my favourite textbook reference believe me when I say your level of fucktardry has never been and will never be seen upon the face of this earth again. Do you even know what a belief is. I dare you to look for a school that will accept you again

analice107:
You just got here? welcome. Now that you are here, note that, not every comment is worth a responds.

*response

analice107:
Hey kid, go and finish writing your WAEC first.

ad hominem- a logical fallacy in which the person giving the argument is attacked and not the argument. In the illusion of your mind you made a perfect comeback

nawa oo. You said atheists discriminate and then you now called Charles Darwin their God?? Charles Darwin isn't the founder of atheism you know. he was a thiest like you then after studying evolution ended up being agnostic. Epicurus a Greek philosopher lived long before Darwin and was an atheist. Besides there are christians that call athiest "demon possessed" and say they are being "used by the devil" I believe you've posted something like that before. Isn't that discrimination too?

Jesuobu:
OK closed. This not a hell topic but a topic of vision. So many people not only suffering from spiritual shortsightednes but spiritual complete blindness and only God can make you see again.


John 6:44 ► "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

but I know a pastor with an eye defect. He uses glasses I'm not making fun of your healing or anything but why do you think he wasn't healed of his. I don't think anybody would prefrer medicated glasses over 20/20,vision
This is why I have a problem with anecdotal evidence.

UyiIredia:
Chai ! Bros dis your mess hot o.

lol whaat??
For something to be qualified as a species the have you be able to produce fertile offspring naa. Is lion and and a tiger the same species?? No because they cannot produce fertile offspring. A liger is infertile. I didn't fart btw

hopefulLandlord:
lol, Jesuobu be like.....

lol if they believe hell they can believe anything. Although they believe the earth is spherical when the bible says otherwise. Though the bible did support a circle keep in mind that a circle ain't a sphere. I guess that's why when Jesus said he'll come all "eyes" would see him?? In an earth that is not flat
*facepalm*

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Young earth creationism is the belief that the earth and our universe was created in 6000 years. Old earth creationists are still thiests but they do not believe a literal six day creation. Now let us just say evolution is a lie that never happened. There are a lot of branches of science you'd still have to completely ignore to believe in a young earth and universe the main one basically is
- astronomy and starlight - well basically the speed of light is finite sooo it travels slower in the vacuum of space. If the universe was created in 6000 years the Andromeda galaxy shouldn't even exist. This is because it is about over 2 million light years away. A simpler example is the sun it takes 8 minutes for it's light to reach earth. Basically we are seeing the suns light how it was 8 minutes ago so we are never actually seeing it how it actually is To believe in a 6000 year old universe is to basically block out majority of light from the observable universe. So basically the universe can never be 6000 years old. Please if there's anybody that has that belief please stop. if you want to believe in a young earth that's fine but don't believe in a 6000 year old universe