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You have officially been stripped off your black claims! You can now apply to be a white!

XhosaNostra:
I still haven't watched Black Panther , so I don't know if it sounded right or not. Most of them tend to do a Nelson Mandela accent when portraying South African characters. That is NOT a South African accent. It's not even a Xhosa accent, it's just how the man spoke. Xhosa is a sing-songy language. Almost all the words are silent or said in a lower tone of voice towards the end. So you start high & end low, like you're singing lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDo9N1DZ53c?t=15

This is a short excerpt showing him,you may look at it and judge if he did good or flopped!

XhosaNostra:
I still haven't watched Black Panther, so I don't know if it sounded right or not. Most of them tend to do a Nelson Mandela accent when portraying South African characters. That is NOT a South African accent. It's not even a Xhosa accent, it's just how the man spoke. Xhosa is a sing-songy language. Almost all the words are silent or said in a lower tone of voice towards the end. So you start high & end low, like you're singing lol.

Trevor puts it in a satirical way which is good but this may distort the message! But I bet you won't sleep listening to him.I'll get to watch the videos or read short stories about it!

JaceBlaze:
You might wanna watch more documentaries of our struggle heroes to get proper insight,I'm talking the men & women who saw the good,the bad and the ugly of all of it,not some wet-behind-the-ears Trevor lol.Great comedian he is nonetheless.

https://www.ecr.co.za/shows/east-coast-drive-with-bongani-and-mags/fans-slam-forest-whitaker-accent-in-new-desmond-tutu-film/

Looks like it's not the first time for Forest to mess up.He also f*cked up acting as Desmond Tutu!

XhosaNostra:
I love her so I don't mind that.

Well, I think people are tired of having Hollywood actresses & actors tell our stories. Jennifer Hudson played Winnie Mandela in one movie. It was such a wrong fit imo. Plus it's also insulting when these actors don't put it the effort to get certain things right eg. accents & pronunciations. Leonardo DiCaprio did a fantastic Afrikaans accent job in one movie. Now if all could do what he did to get the tiny details right, I don't think many people would care either way. Most just do a half-assed job, that's what's annoying.

I could personally tell that Forest Whitaker as Zuri in Black Panther struggled with the Xhosa accent! His acting was good but as for the accent he was forcing it.

XhosaNostra:
I love her so I don't mind that.

Well, I think people are tired of having Hollywood actresses & actors tell our stories. Jennifer Hudson played Winnie Mandela in one movie. It was such a wrong fit imo. Plus it's also insulting when these actors don't put it the effort to get certain things right eg. accents & pronunciations. Leonardo DiCaprio did a fantastic Afrikaans accent job in one movie. Now if all they could do what he did to get the tiny details right, I don't think many people would care either way. Most just do a half-assed job, that's what's annoying.

Forget about the 'non-carcinogenic wheelbarrows' that costed that county government 1000 dollars plus for each piece!

Nigerians readying themselves to be slaves is just hella absurd!

Ibrahimanis:
Kenyans

And I heard that Lupita is in it as Trevor's mom!

Some of your countrymen and women wanted a homegrown actor but the fact is that Lupita will help in hyping the movie-she's a more sellable brand!

XhosaNostra:
True. It makes for a good story. He even has a movie in the making based on his book. So it's working out for him despite the outrage.

Many would of done the same as Trevor! Facts!

XhosaNostra:
Well, he's half-Xhosa after all I'm his black side (his mother) doesn't mind that he told a few white lies for the green lol.

I guess everything doesn't fall off from the sky at once.Let's wait for it to be launched!

tylann:
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I have seen the portal but is it right to book for houses which have not being built

Nigerians!

Money? I guess a Xhosa girl would love that and pretty much everybody else!

XhosaNostra:
Shrugs. Whatever makes him more money.

I'll guess I'll be a neutral to this! Best believe that his version will be known to many now because he is a celeb and his book is selling like crazy!

XhosaNostra:
LMFAO. A lot of South Africans on social media have actually attacked Trevor about the things he said in his book. Basically he exaggerated some parts or straight out told fibs, to make a good read I guess. There's no way he used a hole in the ground as a toilet while living in Soweto. I've seen the house where he grew up. His granny's house. It's a typical home like the rest. All the toilets in the townships could flush. Yes, some were outside but they still flushed. The homes were built with toilets & showers (only cold water out of both taps). Another thing I find interesting & hard to believe is the story he told about his experience at a public school. Trevor & myself are about the same age. Some time in the late 90s I also attended a multiracial school- Crewe Primary School. All the races were in one class, not separated. The claims that he was put in a "superior" class because of his grades, I think he's just grandstanding lol. I love him to bits, but some of the things he said are not true. He lied.

I don't know of the official launch but it shouldn't go past April,the first face at Ngara I heard that the contractor is on site!

The http://bomayangu.go.ke/ portal is already up and running! It's only a matter of time I guess!

tylann:
This what we need when will it be launched

I know!I was just making reference to the pettiness levels that was brought by apartheid.The actions didn't make sense at all!

forgiveness:
Life was cruel for them. It wasn't funny.

It's sad and hella funny at the same time!

forgiveness:
Those pictures confirmed it.

Got a bit of glimpse of how everything was like in apartheid South Africa through Trevor Noah's interview with Oprah! It was insightful!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8d8VkDcHE?t=13

XhosaNostra:
Yeah, it was hey.

The whole segregation was so petty!

XhosaNostra:
You're aware that we used the same facilities, right?

I'm sure we will pick up useful lessons as we implement this going forward,there will be changes in the way.The thing is that we are not building houses at once then wait for people to move in.Ghost cities? better try it than not.

He has a case but just like you say,Kenya is a different planet altogether!

rvp2018:
Singapore is a successfully story of social and home ownership. Tayer ideas of small gov works only in developed countries where gov long did all the heavy lifting (built all the infrastructure the country will ever need) and current gov role is basically maintaining the existing infrastructure. There you can argue for small gov - considering 'nearly' everything is in place. Kenya and Africa is different ball-game all together. The infrastructure deficit alone is staggering. The housing deficit is huge - hence all the slums.

It all rests on our approach.We have a deficit of about 200,000 houses each year.The government is stepping in to bridge that by rolling out incentives to investors and assuring them money back guarantee,I'm sure they have lined up all the challenges they would likely to encounter.The demand for low costing housing is much higher,this units will sell like hotcakes.Let's get behind it.We will be building this homes in tandem with the demand of the housing applications from the housing portal-your fears of ghost cities should be ridden by now!

TayserMahri:
Maybe you could give the list of succesful mass social housing.

Unfortunately govts dont listen and they dont learn from other govts! Angola's Kilamba or the chinese ghost cities are examples. We would be a special breed to successfully hack this one. We are talking about the govt disrupting an entire industry with cheap houses. The intentions may be good but the outcome wont be.

Anyway, not trying to be pessimist but I know the govt is bluffing big time. I suggest you watch vid below called the Hidden Secrets of Money to understand why am right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuOcnGAv4oo

It looks more like basic architecture!

forgiveness:
All because you don't about shapes.

So there are no successful stories in mass social housing projects? Let me believe the whole process is anchored in a law or a regulatory framework that would make it successful. They must have done a research of how social mass housing is correctly approached! The government doesn't just come up with an initiative without doing popper research about it!

TayserMahri:
Eventually yes. At first it feels good to the shortsighted citizens but the repercussions later. i.e if it project works properly in the first place. Whenever the govt personally tries to fix an issue for the citizens such as housing it always makes things worse. Thats the golden rule globally! Its more or less similar to what we have with the interest cap rates. Only an individual citizen knows what they are willing to fork out for a given product/ service. The govt should stay the fvck outta housing and get lessons from the failed slum upgrading!

Why are those buildings just boxy with no architectural flair at all?

PROVERBZ:
pictures of some really cool office spaces in Victoria island alone after this i will show proposed dangote head quarters and famfa buildings and the progress so far

the wings complex Victoria island

desiderata office building I think this one is in banana island

nestoil towers
.kings way tower

Which is a bad thing?

TayserMahri:
Obviously its not free but its cheap. The whole idea is to make Kenyans cheaply housed!

The government is only offering incentives! Both you and your employer is deducted 1.5% equivalent of your income! I don't understand how's that free!

TayserMahri:
We can be dumb trust me. Not always but sometimes. We are getting into the trap that Americans under the Dems found themselves - which is the mess Trump is trying to fix now. The govt should not be in the business of 'doing things' for its citizens. Just make the economy and environment work and the people will do as they please. People just need well paying jobs and good infrastructure and an economy that is booming. Not cheap welfare houses.

And to just think that NIIMS (National Integrated Identity Management System) is being launched in Nyandarua county before it reaches each part of Kenya.We will soon have a superior database for all Kenyans and foreigners! It's business unusual when you have Kibicho and Matiang'i at the Interior Ministry!

rvp2018:
I see South Africa already have complusory ID card - most of rest of Africa is a jungle.
Red-Compulsory ID cards
Blue- Non-compulsory ID cards
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/National_ID_card_policy.svg/1024px-National_ID_card_policy.svg.png

All investors are welcomed,foreign or local! The houses will eventually be bought by Kenyans.Why wouldn't you want foreign investors to invest in housing? There are laws that should protect our interests, we aren't that dumb!

TayserMahri:
The idea of foreigners building affordable houses is a big no for me. Kenyans need to stop regurgitating the same BS coming from the govt. We cannot have a country where the most affordable houses are foreign owned/funded.

President Uhuru Kenyatta’s flagship low-cost housing plan has received investment pledges running into Sh2.613 trillion ($26 billion), Parliament has been told.

“We have received investment offers of $26 billion from all over the world towards affordable housing,” Charles Hinga, the Housing Principal Secretary told a session of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC).

Implement 13 billion USD worth of the investors pledges,and I'll be happy! rvp2018

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Investor-pledges-in-affordable-housing-plan-hit-Sh2-6-trillion/3946234-4986276-blw6jz/index.html

The usual dance and song!

PROVERBZ:
I just hope u will be posting actual construction pictures along side the renders like I have done cuz if its proposed I don't think u can beat Nigeria there we have this proposes stuffs littered all over eko Atlantic ,centenary, alaro orange island, enyimba economic ,kano economic city etv

And the Airtel-Kenya Telkom merger-I hope it shakes up the market and gives us consumers more.We are really going places in as far as the telecommunication sector is concerned!

rvp2018:
Awesome. And it just started - Safaricom I read are going to open the pipes - and crazy speeds with crazy bandwidths.

That's aggression,the international community will have none of it unless the big boys support us.We should however make Jubaland and Somaliland states of their own.Particularly Jubaland!

rvp2018:
Why share? Somali are yet to pay Kenya for all the efforts we have put up to help them - and all the pain they have caused. In fact we should grab some of their land .

Diplomacy is the way to go.War should be the last option! Other's say,war should never be an option!

Kur17:
Sometimes we play too soft or we focus on business, peace and other diplomatic relations... like the case of migingo or Kenya/Ethiopia border

You can't compare a rocky Island to oil and gas blocks I guess plus Uganda is a darling to us-we don't need to go extra on them

tylann:
Okay
But i have never the kenyan govt reacting so angrily like that
Hata migingo hawakujam hivyo ama vle migingo ni mawe tu