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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:56pm On Nov 14, 2017
Argentina haven't conceded 4 goals in a match since 2011.
That was in a 4-1 loss... to Nigeria.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:18pm On Nov 14, 2017
Mujtahida:
Deft and strong. He's intelligent. Check his movements, his positioning.
I agree with you that he is strong, surprisingly. Such a well-coached player!

The formation was not working in the first half, but what a second half that was served to us. Fantastic game.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:03pm On Nov 14, 2017
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:24pm On Nov 14, 2017
Mickael2:
the coach corrected the glaring errors which I pointed out earlier and the results improved. Nice switch of plans there
grin grin grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:06pm On Nov 14, 2017
Does anyone know where Mickael2 is?
Argentina 2 Nigeria 4
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 6:49pm On Nov 14, 2017
Kelechi should have released that ball. It would easily have been 4-2
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 6:12pm On Nov 14, 2017
tbaba1234:
The game was finely balanced before that ridiculousness.. Now Argentina are on top..
Balanced, how? We have played absolutely nothing in this match. Nothing in the attacking third. Not a single shot on target. Not even one off target. Have you seen their goalkeeper?

The formation is not working.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 3:55pm On Nov 12, 2017
Joe Crann
@YesWeCrann

2016 - Marco van Basten to Hakim Ziyech: "How stupid can you be to choose Morocco if you are in contention for the Dutch national team?”

2017 - Hakim Ziyech helps Morocco reach #Russia2018... The Dutch didn't qualify.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 2:12pm On Nov 12, 2017
Tosin Adeoti

Let's be clear. Some of the examples used to teach religious lessons are horrific. It should leave a bitter taste in our mouths to teach kids that Abraham's willingness to slaughter Isaac is a great example of obedience.
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Can we take a step back: Imagine someone telling you he has received those explicit instructions from God in his dream in November 2017. What would your reaction​ be? That it's okay to display a supreme act of obedience?
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Please don't answer until you've taken time to think about it. Happy Sunday!
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:02pm On Nov 10, 2017
Humility017:
the passes have been poor....
It's obvious you've been watching him with some preconceived notions. He's not having a bad game. It's Etebo that is not creating in AMF. Ogu has been doing alot of tackling, defending and short passes.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:31pm On Nov 10, 2017
These Eagles impress me. All of them sang the National anthem. Even Aina. He knows it so quickly!
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
This issue of tithing is a particularly interesting issue. Once upon a time, it was 'suicidal' to utter that tithing is not a commandment in Christiandom. Now, it has become mainstream that there are indeed Christians who do not pay tithes. Some people can now boldly confront their pastors.

Perhaps there is an awakening. Shout-out to Daddy Freeze!
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
This issue of tithing is a particularly interesting issue. Once upon a time, it was 'suicidal' to utter that tithing is not a commandment in Christiandom. Now, it has become mainstream that there are indeed Christians who do not pay tithes. Some people can now boldly confront their pastors.

Perhaps there is an awakening. Shout-out to Daddy Freeze!
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 3:02pm On Nov 10, 2017
ON TITHES et al
-TIME FOR SELF REGULATION
‘Lolu Akinwunmi


I have carefully followed very recent discussions and arguments on tithing. A certain daddy freeze started the debate when he cited scriptures to support why tithing is not required of the Christian. The moment i read it, i knew he was stoking what would become a massive conflagration.

Expectedly, the response was fierce. On both sides. Those who agree with daddy freeze and those who don’t. Soon scriptures were being copiously cited; the combatants would shame many trial lawyers by their performance.

Then the matter escalated.

My bold, dear friend and brother Paul Adefarasin was soon quoted on the social media as weighing in on the side of tithe compliance. And what I am sure he believed was a family discussion in his magnificent church was openly shared out here and of course daddy freeze saw it and responded, further digging in. Paul reportedly responded the following Sunday and the social media quoted him, and daddy freeze was also waiting for him. It became roforofo.

Then a video of the venerable pastor Adeboye surfaced and in a few words he condemned Daddy Freeze’s doctrine of no tithing. Daddy freeze was not going to allow daddy G.O. get away with it. Politely, he gave it back to baba and kept insisting that instead of attacking him, let the focus return to the substantive issue he raised and let relevant scriptures be the arbiter.

Last week, the London/Lagos pastor Matthew Ashimolowo was on tv. He understandably supported tithing and even supported the ownership of private jets, citing daddy G.O.’s ownership of one as a blessing.

This issue of tithing is about money. Period. And as a Pentecostal pastor myself, I know why this is generating so much furore. It’s not about tithes per se. In the dock is the general disenchantment with the lifestyle of some Pentecostal ministers. Let us be clear. Orthodox churches, white garment churches etc., have been paying tithes forever. I should know. My late father was an Anglican Revd. And it’s never been an issue. No one ever made a sound. No one ever complained.

People within and outside the church are using tithing, expensive church schools, flashy lifestyles of some Pentecostal ministers as reasons to complain. I assure you that if the Anglican or Catholic Church were to acquire a jet tomorrow, the noise would be less or none. It’s about Pentecostal lifestyles. The body language. Its about US. We are in the dock and not the body of Christ.

I am hoping this ends the debate on tithing. We should not engage in fisticuffs over it. Let those who believe pay. Let those who don’t hold their money. Let everyone be fully persuaded in the matter. Christianity is bigger and has more important agenda and PROGRAMMES. Tithing is too small to distract us.

I wrote a piece on Pentecostal excesses a few months ago. I warned that resistance from the public would continue to build up. Very soon Pentecostal ministers will have more Rolls Royces than industrialists. What business do they do? What factories do they run? Even Aliko does not have a Roller! People will ask these questions!!!

What to now do?

First on tithes. I believe in it. And so I pay. But I also would feel offended if my tithe was funding some pastor’s Hollywood-type lifestyle. And if for any reason anyone does not believe in it, it’s not a condition for making heaven. Hold on to your money.

On the more serious matter, Pentecostal ministers must urgently come together and speak to one another. For some, the lifestyle is too reminiscent of what their American counterparts do. If this backfired in America, be sure it will here!!! Its not so in the UK, at least not so prevalent. It’s too showy. There must be a new code of conduct. The bible talks of sobriety and moderation. We no longer see these in the Pentecostal fold. The excesses must stop. This competition with Rolls Royces and Pjets must be contained. And must every church have a London branch? Why not Gambia and Iraq and Afghanistan?

We must not forget one thing. The only source of these monies that are being spent on luxury lifestyles is via the congregation. Tithes. Offerings etc. Okay some pastors have a thriving publishing ministry, but who largely buys the books? While many pastors are still in bed till midday, the same congregants have done six hours of labour. We must respect them.

Its a matter of conscience even if it is not a sin. Must such monies from the labours of others be so spent? Even if the scriptures don’t condemn it, it is morally decadent. I have nothing against pastors living comfortably. Anglican, Methodist and catholic clergy are comfortable but are not excessive. The Deeper Life G.S., Pastor Kumuyi is comfortable but sober.

The excuse by people like Pastor Ashimolowo that pastors need jets because staying at the airport wastes time is insensitive. So why cant Pastors stay at airports if other people do? So without private jets, the work cannot be done? The departed fathers of the faith didn’t have PJs and see how they evangelized the world. The British PM has no jet. Jesus our master had no donkey. These itinerant pastors can reduce the junketing and make use of technology to reach millions. Seriously. And why can they not fly commercial airlines? Former heads of states do!!!!

As a matter of grave urgency, an enclave should be called where these matters are discussed. Non-pastor Christians must also be invited to contribute. Its time to speak truth to ourselves in love. Its time for a serious chastisement and admonition. Lets manage this before others get involved! Self regulation is the best form of regulation.

Otherwise the public resistance will drive especially the young out of the church to undesirable places. Plus government will one day move in to control this wealth that is being spent on decadent lifestyle. This will be a pity and a shame.

I rest
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 12:40pm On Nov 09, 2017
Nkechi Bianze

TITHING: THE GULLIBILITY AND HYPOCRISY OF THE NIGERIAN CHRISTIAN - By Nkechi Bianze.

Back in 2013, in my home Church, something happened that changed my whole perspective. An alter call for donations was made, thus:

“Praise tha Lord o. Our Daddy in the Lord is visiting us with his army of Soldiers. We need to look after our daddy very well. We need to lodge him in the most expensive hotel in town for one week. Feed him and mummy, transport him and look after him while he is with us.”

I was already making calculations in my head at this point, with the idea of the price of the most expensive hotel, and what it costs to lodge people.

Then the announcer continued...

“We are also going to look after his 50-man entourage, likewise. It would cost us at least N100k per day to look after Daddy and Mummy, and at least N70k per day to look after each of his 50-man entourage.”

I’m quite fast with numbers, most especially when these numbers are about money. Thus, it took me less than a minute to come up with a sum total of what they expected us to donate so we can “look after” the spiritual leader of the church. We are talking about a fund raising of not less than N25.2 million Naira here. For what? To have the spiritual leader come and preach to us for a couple of hours per week.

When the calls were made for those who want to give N50k and above to walk down to the “healing ground” for special prayers, I was about to go. I had N50k to give. But then, I snapped within me. I remembered that there are families who are struggling to feed. I remembered that there are children who can’t go back to school because they can’t afford tuition. I remembered that there are people in hospitals who are dying because they can’t afford treatments of N10k.

I had initially wanted to stand up to walk to the front with my N50k, but I saw myself parking my bag, and walking out of the church.

I went out, waved an okada man, and asked him to take me to the central hospital. I went into the hospital, then asked the nurse if there was anyone struggling with medical bills. I was showed two patients. One was a woman who had just put to bed, and two was a child who had just been treated for malaria. I gave them N15k each. The child could now be allowed to go home. His petty trader single mother almost rolled on the floor thanking me. What for? N15k? It was embarrassing as well as fulfilling.... I actually dropped a tear.

I took a bike to the car park, saw a crippled beggar, he was carrying his plastic plate begging the food seller for food. I gave him N5k, and also bought him food.

I went back to Church to join my parents, just like nothing happened.

The following day, I went to the primary school I attended at some point, greeted the head teacher, and asked if there was any student struggling financially. I was showed some. I chose three. I gave each of them N10k. I ended up spending over N65k on strangers who needed my money the most. I paid hospital bills, fed a beggar for at least one week, and paid tuition fees for three.

Any God who thinks that I should be in hell because I didn’t enrich an already stinking rich man who is a thousand times richer than myself and my parents, but rather gave that money to the poor, is a God I never want to have anything to do with.

This was the beginning of it all.

I don’t believe in tithing. That’s a modern day religious scam.

But I do “tithe”.

Everything that I should have dropped in the Church accounts goes directly to the poor. I pay tuition fees for people, I pay hospital bills, and I feed the poor. All these I do whenever I have the money to do it.

After this experience in 2013, I felt so happy within myself. I felt an inner Joy. I still feel joy within each time I remember that I have put and keep putting smiles on the faces of people who almost had no hope at some points, just with my N10k, N20k, here and there. So, I made a vow in 2013 that love is going to be my religion where I would be paying my tithe and offerings to people, mainly strangers that won’t recognize me again some hours after.

Even the Bible says, whatsoever you do to the least of thou brethren, so you do unto me.

Jesus Christ gave more than he received. The early missionaries that brought Christianity to Nigeria gave more than they received. They built schools, hospitals and churches for free. They did a lot to improve human lives, and asked for nothing back.... only believe.

But the opposite is what we have amongst Nigerian pastors these days. They make their gullible members milk cows to enrich themselves.

What is a sane man, who goes by the title “GO” in a country where many only survive on less than a dollar a day doing with four private jets? That has gone beyond greed, that’s insanity! And Nigerians keep enabling these brands of insanities.

Nigerian pastors and GOs will continue getting richer for as long as the average Nigerian Christian remains gullible. This gullibility is simply self-inflicted-mental-laziness. You have refused to think with your brains, so these GOs think for you. And they think for you to their own benefits.

I don’t give in Churches anymore. Heaven knows I won’t give a dime to a multi-billionaire pastor while there are still beggars on the streets.

Nigerian Christians need to start using their brains. This is URGENT!

Think man, think woman, because no one ever died of thinking critically with his or her brain.

Even though I become a billionaire today, no Nigerian pastor would get a dime from me. My “tithes”, arms, offerings and seeds would all go directly to the poor in my society. Not to some of the richest people in the world.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 10:04pm On Nov 08, 2017
Itodo Anthony

Don't be a deliberate idiot and a public nuisance, nobody ever became rich because they paid tithes, otherwise Africa, the world's most backward continent will be brimming with billionaires. And nobody ever became broke because they didn't.

And I hear the highest number of millionaires are in China, over a billion people who don't know the meaning of tithes. This paradox doesn't slap your brain because your skull is made of concrete.

"Stupidity is also a gift of God but one mustn't misuse it."
~Adedayo Olugbemi
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:32pm On Nov 08, 2017
Who else thinks theSuperNerd tackling Joebie and Mujtahida would have been lit? Of course we know which side of the debate he would be on.

Miss the guy die!
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 6:13pm On Nov 08, 2017
Godswill Utong

Rule of thumb: if a doctrine—any doctrine at all—needs a threat (whether of physical harm in the here and now or of damnation and suffering in the hereafter) to be accepted as truth, that doctrine is most likely false and wanting. Suspect it. Be very critical towards it and where it serves only the interests of a certain few to the detriment of many, expunge it.

The Catholic Church has spent the last 50 years apologizing for its actions, inactions and complicity through its doctrines that adversely affected millions of people, resulting in the death of many. In 1633, the Roman Catholic Church forced Galileo Galilei, a catholic scientist to recant on his views on and support of Copernican heliocentrism (the theory that the sun, as opposed to the earth is the center of the universe, and that the planets revolve around it.) and placed him under house arrest, where he eventually died. Heliocentrism was declared a heretical doctrine and books, studies and researches on heliocentrism were banned. It wasn't until some 360 years later, in 2000 that the Church tendered an apology for its treatment and condemnation of Galileo and his book/work respectively.

And while he (Galileo) was lucky to live out his life, dying within the confines of his own home, another wasn't so lucky. His name was Giordano Bruno. An Italian mathematician and philosopher. In 1600 he was burned at the stake, after a 7-year trial which condemned him for heresy for many of his theories, including that of the infiniteness of the universe, his "many worlds" theories as well as his openly challenging many of the core doctrines of the catholic church.

Today, we know that the planets go around the sun. We know that there are many worlds apart from this one we're conversant with. A lot of the doctrines of the catholic church are false, if not absurd (transubstantiation and the virgin birth for instance.) But these doctrines were spread by fear. Fear of excommunication. Fear of death. Fear of eternal damnation. We have had to watch the Church apologize for its embarrassing failures, for its errors in judgment and for the deaths it had sanctioned, allowed or executed. All because it would not allow anyone question its doctrines.

Pastor E. A. Adeboye, General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, a collosal pentecostal church, with branches all over the world, this week reiterated the threat that has held many a tither captive. In a message, available on YouTube, the pastor addressed the growing concern, brought to the fore by a certain OAP, Daddy Freeze on the need (or lack thereof) for tithing by 21st century Christians. In his own words:

"Avoid divine curse like a plague...

"... If your general overseer curses you you can pray and fast to your father in heaven, but if God curses you, where will you go? ...

"do not let anybody get you into trouble by attracting God's curse to yourself. Please pay your tithes..."

He's hardly the first pentecostal preacher to speak up against non remittance of tithes by faithfuls. Last year, Bishop Oyedepo, Founder of The Living Faith Church, in a sermon on tithing that went viral, said:

"Everybody believes that God has an open Heaven order of blessings for His people. But you see it takes your tithing to qualify for it. So, if you only know the promise but you don’t know the condition, you will die frustrated..."

As far back as 2011, the same Bishop reiterated the threats against non payment of tithes in these words:

" Tithing is an inescapable covenant obligation. You can’t escape poverty if you don’t pay your tithes. Rather, you come under a curse because God says ye are robbing Him. The tithe is God’s. So no matter how much you give in other areas, if your tithe is out of place, you will still come under a curse, because you are robbing God. It is the master key to enjoying financial fortune..."

The internet is awash with media articles, sermons, teachings, news bits etc by prosperity preachers and pentecostal pastors on tithing and the punishments for withholding tithes. It is not the threats that bother me (I don't not take them any more seriously than the threat of divine halitosis issued last year for criticism of a certain school's exorbitant fees. I don't seriously consider that I, or anyone else for that matter, would be punished in some imagined hell for choosing to spend my hard-earned money on myself.), it is the psychological manipulation by these "Men of God". Take a very careful look at those who most actively campaign for tithing. Look at their houses. Look at the clothes and jewelry they wear, the cars they're conveyed in and the jets they fly in. Do you think their material wealth falls from the sky? Do you think their opulence is downloaded from the spirit realm? No. It is your monies that clothes and houses them. And they will employ any obfuscation, coercion or threat to ensure that you continue to fund their extravagance.

You have access to your Bible. Read it. Digest it. Understand it. Do not let any self-ordained "Man of God" live out his dreams at your expense.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 4:11pm On Nov 07, 2017
Olatunde Ayinde

Bàǹtẹ́, ońdè: old religion
Wrist band, handkerchief: new religion

Nigerians: same people, same superstitions. Just different religions. Always looking for short cuts. Always.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 5:38am On Nov 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
All this long story adds to one simple answer. Morata. He is a top quality player that spent lots of time on the bench. So stop arguing off point when you can see it with your two eyes.

While I said Iheanacho should stay and learn, people like you screamed through the roof that he should move for playing time.

Now he has moved, it is you here trying to put the blame on me. That is so ridiculous.

You thought he was ready, I believe the young man still has a lot to learn. Iheanacho stayed only a season with Guardiola. Look for a better point.
Wait...you still believe he should HAVE stayed in City?

You know he would have had little chance of going to the World Cup if he stayed, right?

The cherry-picked example of Morata reveals your inconsistency and error-laden argument.

How can you attribute Morata's great ability to bench warming at Madrid? The same player that had a phenomenal season a year before at Juventus. He helped Juventus win the league. He was even the one that scored the winning goal for the Old ladies to win Coppa Italia against AC Milan.

Who else remembers his great form in the Champions League that year? Juventus lost against Barca in the final but Morata was one of the key players that got them there. He scored against Manchester City. He scored against Sevilla. He scored against Dortmund home and away. He disgraced Real Madrid home and way. In fact, he was so good that year that he was nominated for the UEFA Team of the Year.

Yet this is the same man thegoodjoe wants us to believe is performing well in Chelsea because he chopped bench last year. You really don't want to gerrit.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:57pm On Nov 06, 2017
Joebie:
Good if it means more of our players will start going to France.
LOL. Did more of our players go to Chelsea because of him?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:09pm On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Osimhen is a young player in Wolfsburg, training with Mario Gomes. For his age, it is a dream come true. He should make the most of his opportunity, learn and work hard. His chance will come and he will take it.

No need moving. He might find himself in a worse situation.
Back in the day, I used to have fierce arguments with you about this incredulous idea of training over gametime. I'm at a loss that you still preach it as gospel. It is the same drilling excuse you made that has turned Kelechi into someone who has gone from someone with an exceptional ball control (in the U17) to someone who cannot even trap the ball without pressure. It's getting worse by the day. I remember I was among those who voiced out then that drilling is no guarantee for anything.

I remember Chrisantus and how we used to wonder why he kept at the bench at Hamburg when he could have gone somewhere else. But if it were happening today, you would ask that he stayed because he is in the same team with the incredible Ivica Olić and Mladen Petrić in his debut season and the legendary Ruud van Nistelrooy two years after.

But how and where did our golden boy turn out?

I saw you cherry picking Sane the other day, but we both know that had Sanchez transfer gone through, Sane would have no chance on the back of Sanchez's form last season. Gametime improved Sane, not bench time. Delph is now playing a full back position but only the pressures of game time could have helped him thus far.

I'm not in the business of cherry picking examples for I know that there is no strategy or tactic cast in stone. It might well be that the coach would throw Victor into the fray and he would seize the chance, and then we will see you attribute it to the drilling with Gomez but I cannot see you saying anything right now even though they've now been together for 15 solid months.

So why not admit that drilling is no guarantee, and desist from using it as an 'encouragement' for any player to rot on the bench?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 6:22pm On Nov 06, 2017
Mujtahida:
That's why I said you are ignorant and insensitive if you maintain your line that we do not need anyone engaging these players to play for us and I am repeating it again.
This stance of yours is one that riles me. Sincerely.
Now I know that some of us here were co-opted into a WhatsApp group. Just this Saturday, the name and story of a 22 year old Greek basketball player who is well on his way to becoming a great, even greater than Hakeem Olajuwon - in basketball was posted. His name is Giannis Antetokuonmpo also known as the Greek freak. The interesting thing is that Giannis only became a Greek Citizen two years ago. Giannis parents, Charles and Veronica are Nigerians who immigrated to Greece in the early 90's and gave birth to Giannis and his brothers there.
Now here's the point I like to make that stresses your ignorance: in the course of discussion on the group, many were wowed and some were like why didn't he play for Nigeria. That was when one of the posters said he(as in the poster) has met Giannis who would have played for Nigeria but that Greece had fast tracked his switch of nationality and he (the poster) went on to state that there are many Nigerians abroad in Australia, Germany, Italy whose parents routinely ask him how they'd get their children to represent Nigeria. He talked about how he met some good basketballers of Nigerian descent in Germany and a swimmer in tanzania whose Dad was/is Nigerian. The 'how' is a problem that rapport and engagement can solve.

There are talented athletes, basketballers, swimmers, footballers of Nigerian descent all over the world cut off completely from how we do things here but whose heart is still at home with us because of the blood that flows in their veins.

Now komekn spoke in the broad context of engagement and rapport with footballers in EUROPE and you say that we do not need anyone to engage these players to play for us. How ignorant can one be more than this again, how insensitive? If you do not engage them and create rapport, how do you know who will agree to play for us and who will not?and since its not by force, anyone that declines the honour, we by pass such a person or still try and persuade them some more. In your mind they should just cross over and say heyyyy Nigeria, here I am. I want to play for you. Na so?

Because Tammy has bounced us, we are hurt. But not everyone of them is Tammy. It was Rohr who convinced Ebuehi to play for us, Rohr convinced Dessers to play for us, it is Rohr who has been making contact with Torunarigha, Uduokhai and Akpoguma on our behalf. Would it not have been better if we have designated persons, passionate Nigerians, who understand Nigeria and also the foreign country to engage these players on our behalf once it is ascertained that they are talented? Would it not be good to have a formal structure of engagement through which parents whose kids desire to represent Nigeria find it easy to register their interest? Na Rohr wey be Oyibo man dey engage players and talk them to represent your fatherland for you! Shame on you!!

Guy you dey fall hand abeg for this narrow mindedness. I don't want to talk politics but this is precisely the same mindset that prevents rapprochement and understanding across cultural divides in this country. Everybody sits in his own enclave and speaks from that narrow perspective without trying to understand the view point of the other man, of the other ethnic group, culture or religion. It infuriates me. It makes me mad when I encounter narrow mindedness. Joebie knows. Imagine if a Nigerian born and brought up in the UK talks dismissively about the problems we encounter in Nigeria in a manner that shows he lacks an understanding of our challenges I'd take that person on if I have the opportunity. Indeed I was happy when safarigirl questioned and challenged komekn regarding his understanding of the plight of our players here in Nigeria face when they go abroad to ply their trade. You are in Nigeria talking about people in the UK yet you have no inkling what it feels like for them regarding such issues as playing for Nigeria. For you it's a simple matter. No, my brother, it's not so simple when you leave them in a vacuum to make that decision. The only thing that makes that decision simple is relationship built through engagement and rapprochement. Gerrit?
You know a well-read and possibly a well-traveled person when you read one.

The dismissive perspective of all who rail at anything foreign is just too parochial. No development will ever come from such.

I truly hope this opinion of yours is all encompassing. I wouldn't want to turn political but this is the same perspective needed for economic development. 'Foreign' goods and imports are not what has turned us into this backward abyss. But this is not the place to demystify laissez faire to the simple minded.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 2:30pm On Nov 05, 2017
WHY HAVE RELIGIONS GOT MORE AND MORE BARMY?

Religions used to be quite straightforward. For the longest time. people worshipped real things of value. For example, sun worship was common until the demise of the Roman Empire.

There is a real sense in which the sun contributed to the creation of life and sustains life. We would soon be dead without it. If you want to say "thank you" for life on Earth, the sun is as good a thing to thank as anything.

But a few thousand years ago, it started to get silly. We began worshipping invisible, undetectable gods- -so comprehensively undetectable in fact, that you would swear they don't exist at all. We can only interact with this new breed of god in our imaginations. But the barmy didn't stop there.

In Christianity for example, we have to believe God wanted to forgive human sin and decided he could do this only with a human sacrifice. So he arranged to be born as a human (from a blushing virgin, of course) and then arranged to have himself killed as a sacrifice to himself.

The more modern religions have taken barmy to a new level. Take Scientology. Scientology incorporates old favorites like humans having an immortal spirit and reincarnation and adds a new dimension. It teaches about Xenu, the dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy" who 75 million years ago brought billions of his people to Earth in a DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes, and killed them with hydrogen bombs.

Why can't we just go back to being grateful that the sun keeps our planet on an orderly trajectory, keeps us warm and nourishes our crops? After all, that is factual and you would not need to intensively indoctrinate infants to ensure people believe it.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 4:17pm On Nov 04, 2017
edi287:
Leicester fans are complaining about Nacho's performance...the same "poor ball control" mantra.
@TomHolland93

Iheanacho’s poor control leads to a foul for West Brom’s equaliser. Iheanacho makes 2 stupid challenges & Stoke could’ve scored� #liability
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 2:48pm On Nov 04, 2017
WHY YOU BELIEVE

You are a believer; I'm not. Let's take a moment for honest reflection.

You know your god is the god you were raised to believe in. You know other people believe just as strongly in other gods and other religions. What convinces you that you've got it right is that it seems to work. Sometimes your prayers are answered and sometimes you feel close to God, you may even sense God talking to you and feel amazing.

You think there must be a god--how else can everything be explained: the universe; life; the laws of nature? So it all makes sense. You see that god explains everything. It's perfect.

But there are other things you know too you don't often think about.

You know that other gods and other religions work too. Believers in these gods think their prayers are answered and feel close to their gods and feel amazing. What you ignore is what this means. Unless you accept that there are a lot of gods, you know deep down that non-existent gods can appear to answer prayers and make you feel amazing. You know this means humans are capable of creating these feelings in their own brains.

Furthermore, if your god can explain the universe, life and everything else, then so could the other gods. And you know, you really DO know, that these unexplained things MAY turn out to have perfectly natural explanations that are just waiting for us to discover, just as we discovered the causes of earthquakes and lightning.

You know humans have worshipped gods for thousands of years--many, many different gods. So you know many gods have been INVENTED by humans. The question you should ask yourself is this; is it possible that ALL gods were invented by humans? You know the answer to this question too. The answer is "yes".

This does not necessarily mean there are no gods. But it does mean the reasons you believe your god is real are not valid reasons. They are excuses for believing.

Does it really make sense to hold strong beliefs when all you have is excuses?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 2:28pm On Nov 04, 2017
forgiveness:
Some people with self esteem of dilution grandeur. Who no sabi cock and hen(bull) abai na cock and hen whatever? sad angry shocked grin

Mumu grin
Following Mujtahida's example, I'm sure you meant, delusion of grandeur
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 6:27pm On Nov 03, 2017
Steven N'Zonzi has earned his first France call-up at the age of 28 having consistently impressed in La Liga. He rejected DR Congo 7 times.

Make of it what you want.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 12:57pm On Nov 02, 2017
Sunday Oliseh named the best manager in the Dutch Eerste Divisie for the first half of the season.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 9:31pm On Nov 01, 2017
Joebie:
that player that worked that goal sha o..
Musa Yahaya is a SURE bet for Qatar.. He will have an illustrious SE career. Very talented kid, following VicMos path.
There is no sure bet for Qatar. Not even Kelechi.

Or who would have thought in 2014 that a fit Omeruo would be a major doubt for Russia 2018?

Yahaya should get out of that Porto B first of all. He's stayed too long there. His quality should have since shone through.
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by joseph1013: 2:19pm On Nov 01, 2017
just2endowed:
253days ands 253 days different rate
Edited. Apologies
InvestmentRe: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by joseph1013:
I was passing a branch of Access Bank today and said to see what they offer in the secondary market. Here:

88days @13%
183days @14.2%
253days @15%

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