₦airaland Forum

PoliteActivist:
Ok, let's compare today's deaths:
(Note: THESE ARE DEAD MOTHERS AND FATHERS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS. Not just numbers.)

9ja pop 210m
9ja covid deaths today - 23

US population 330m
US covid deaths for today - 3,922

UK pop 66m
UK covid deaths today - 1,564

ANY QUESTIONS??

texas1990:
am tired of all these lie lie jare, even if someone died from motor accident don't be surprised fg go say na coro kill am, fuvk coro and it's followers.

felong:
He died of advanced malaria and typhoid. There's no such thing as Corona virus here in Nigeria. Our government just claimed it's here so that they can have their own share if the money world Bank end Europe union was sharing to poor African countries.

May his soul rest in peace.

Venerable612:
Yes, you should find some to visit TB Joshua's church.

mansakhalifa:
Some interesting facts up there...

Got my problems with number 2 though.

Got my reservations about it. Hitler didn't exactly help with the designing of the Beetle. The designing of the beetle was a combination of Ferdinand Porsche and Komenda's intellectual geniuses.

Saying that Hitler helped Porsche in the design is actually giving the man far too much credit than he actually deserves.

For one, his sketches were never accepted or even used. He was never really that great at drawing stuff after all.

So, only two men should get the credit, Porsche and Erwin Komenda. Hitler? What Hitler?

Only thing Hitler and his government ever did was give political backing to Pörsche in order to actualised the whole 'people's car/wagon' drive or idea.

Had to get that off my chest.

Venerable612:
For clarity, I will oblige you this rejoinder.

1. "Enough" is a subjective word. At what point is evidence enough and by whose standard? I would rather stick with evidence or lack of evidence for completeness.

It's therefore irrelevant to argue if the experience on which people base their belief is negligible or significant. What is important is that people genuinely build their faith on these experience.

2. Whether we have access to original copies of the Bible cannot be verified. The same applies to oral accounts. The bible is passed down from ages - and yes, the present versions may not entirely be on all fours with the original versions.

But then again, what's important is that we continue to witness the experience narrated in the bible. These serves as evidence that the contents of the Bible are true today as they were ages ago. Even if the stories have been altered, we know God is able to those things and many more, because we ourselves continue to bear witness to these things in our lives.

3. Benefit is subjective. If I told you God blessed me with perfect health last year and I never took any medication throughout the year, this is a personal experience. You cannot fault it, because that is essentially my own personal reality.

In the same vein, the principle of causality CAN never explain spiritual benefits. Causality is based on empirical association - so that an event occurs because it is caused by another pre-existing, independent event. By its nature causality must be explainable in physical terms otherwhise it seizes to be causation.

P benefits are not explicable in terms of physical events. Something entirely incorporeal brings about physical effects - so that a Pastor may pray in Jesus name for a man to receive his sight and does so instantly without him touching the blind man. In this instance, causality cannot be used in explaining spiritual benefits.

You only talk of causation in terms of scientific corporeal explanations.

michlins:
one thing about astronomy is that you can't learn about it and still believe the story of creation

michlins:
well even if we figure out the speed of light travel, it's not enough to take us away from this galaxy. It will take light years to do that. 200,000 light years to get around the milky way galaxy. I don't know why I can't take screenshots with my phone now. I would love to back up my claims with sources

Venerable612:
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You are largely correct bro. I absolutely agree with you that faith is the substance of each religion - and it would be wrong to measure the veracity of one religious belief over the other based solely on faith.

However, there is a logical flaw with the argument that faith means lack of evidence. In fact, if we go by way of semantics, it is really impossible to have faith without evidence.

The only reason people have faith is because they believe some people, either in the past or presently, have benefited from their faith in that deity- which essentially forms the corpus of evidence, either written down or passed orally, that religious people hold on to.

E g as Christians, It is essentially the evidence of the things we have heard, touched and felt of the Word of God that builds the Christian faith. God has established many of these things through answered prayers, by miracles and testimonies which some of us have been privileged to experience. Thus, faith does not mean a lack of evidence.

The flaw in your argument is to think that something incorporeal such as Faith cannot validly bring about physical evidence. That is wrong. And of course, this doesn't apply only to Christianity. I have seen native doctors heal someone of bad diseases without person visiting an hospital.

Essentially what I mean is that there is an alternate world. Not everything is explicable by science and technology. And the bible is one of those sources we can look to for explanations on how the world is the way it is. Whether we choose to believe in it's content as inspired by God is itself a matter of faith.

michlins:
lols. We just discovered air flight. We're yet to harness the speed of light. I don't think we're the most civilized. And yes, Africa was exploited so shall the superior civilization exploit the less fortunate civilization

Venerable612:
By Faith bro.

No one can believe those things, except by Faith.

It is Faith that gives strength to the Christian belief in God and the holy bible.

michlins:
hmmmm. There's no way all these things will be existing just because of us. Can you live alone in Nigeria?


That's how scary it is for us to be alone in this universe

michlins:
everything we know about the universe from the unicellular organisms to black holes and galaxies are insignificant compared to the actual size of the universe. Funny thing also is that the universe is still expanding and new stars birthed every second

michlins:
the universe is a fascinating place. You will keep learning stuff. Just read this night that somewhere in space is unlimited quantity in space.

michlins:
use Google bro. The earth mantle is as hot as the surface of the sun. That heat helps us from freezing to death. The energy from the sun alone isn't enough

BaEnki:
Revelation 4:11

Thou art worthy, O Lord, for thou hast created ALL THINGS, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Now coming from the mouth of Apostle Paul in Romans 11:36
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For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever, Amen

What I simply meant by my first input is that, the greatness of God is beyond anyone’s comprehension, you can’t describe how great he is, the way you describe the solar systems, the greatest stars, the galaxies, and even the universe(s). For they are still explainable by us.

Matthew 11:25

“At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. ”

cc: Godwrites

michlins:
I'm glad I thought you something unbelievable

Mathiasa:
My brother, God owns you no explanation as to how he operates.
He is God and that is final.

9jamustchange:
It's one of the sweet mysteries of heaven and Earth! "What is man that thou art mindful of him?" says the psalmist.

Size of course doesn't necessarily correspond with value. The smallest child is worth far more than the biggest mountain!

This inexplicable love for man by God calls for humility, adoration, submission and worship
from us.

YorubaPrince:
Go school, you no go gree go, instead na so so aluwala you go dey do.

michlins:
the earth core is as hot as the sun. And compared to other stars in our galaxy,our sun is insignificant in terms of size, temperature and anything else you can imagine

BaEnki:
HIS mightiness defies all known logics and explanations. He’s simply indecipherable. The God my Lord created all things, above and beyond the sea. Praise be unto HIS name.

Enceladus:
True bro. One of the many ways that cements the death of the earth .

Mrceragem:
and someone somewhere will say there is no God.

Kindledlight:
Someone once told me after you’ve passed the sun, You will see God. I don’t know how true is this?

It might be true because nobody can ever survive the intensity of the sun, Even some part of the earth far off is usually very very hot.

yeme7:
In Nigeria is scamdemic..... The city I lived they have no case yet the yeye okowa would still be given scores to ncdc....

For Nigeria na fake

So person nor de die again aside corona virus mtchew

Fake ��
I come in peace

Elliot2:
God bless you with this exposure.

mekysmart123:
These guys done't know what they are into yet. freedom of speech will soon be a thing of the past.