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Be the change you wish to see

Gracefilled01:
Lol..Hypergrace preachers. You mean one can claim to abound in grace yet remain a kidnapper, murderer, rapist, etc, and then makes it to heaven eventually? Lol. This is beyond me. Those that name the name of the Lord must depart from iniquity! Christ says that at the last day, some will say they did this and that in his name, yet he will deny them, Matthew 7:22-23. Not every one who calls Lord Lord enters the kingdom of God.

Grace is given so that you can live a godly life, Titus 2:11-12, because without it, it's impossible to. So my brother, repent from your sins, else Anyways, I hope you allow the Holy Spirit to teach you the truth.

Nope, not hypergrace, just free grace.
Departing from iniquity is a good thing, but the scriptures never said it is a must.
And those that Jesus were talking about in Matt 7:22-23 are those who point to their works( "repenting of sins, holiness, changed life e.t.c) but never did the will of the father ( trust in Christ).
Even the passage you quoted said Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we SHOULD live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Should is a volitional clause and is not synonymous with must. And the scriptures dont contradict itself. Cause Eph 2:8-9 says Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
NOT of WORKS, lest any man should boast.

So I pray also the Holy Spirit teach you the truth as well.

Gracefilled01:
Wrong. Unbelief is not the only sin that sends one to hell. They that name the name of the Lord must depart from iniquity. Go and study the book of Revelations to see the categories of those to be cast into hell, see Revelations 21:8, Revelations 22:15.

Yes all those sins are done by people going to hell, but where sin abounded, grace abounded much more. That’s why anyone guilty of those sins can be made innocent through faith alone in Christ alone.
Revelation 21:6
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life FREELY.

Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life FREELY.

Truthseeker10:
He believed God but could also disobey all of God's commandment and instructions to him and get salvation according to you. Thank you. Bye bye.

God is not a tyrant, He loves us as the Bible says. So He paid the price to get to heaven by coming down to earth as our savior Jesus, who obeyed all of God's commandments and instructions for all who would trust in Him for heaven.

Truthseeker10:
So you mean Abraham could Disobey all of God's instructions to him and get salvation?

I mean Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness

Truthseeker10:
So what is the connection between your obedience and salvation since you told me that Abraham could disobey all of God's commandment and instructions and still be saved?

Abraham obeyed the gospel that's why he was saved?

I agree, wanting something even when you don't want it is suffering, but I disagree with your last point. The only thing that sends someone to hell is unbelief

Truthseeker10:
Are you disobeying all of God's instructions and expecting salvation?

I've obeyed the gospel and I know I'm saved now and forever.

Diseases are an effect of the third horseman

Truthseeker10:
So salvation that comes from disobedience to all of God's instructions is from heaven?

Have you obeyed all of God's instructions

Truthseeker10:
You want salvation without Obedience to God's instructions, don't you?

Salvation from hell is by obedience to the gospel.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣 But you claimed that Abraham could disobey all of God's instructions to him and be saved. Was David's case any different for salvation?

Look you dont believe me you believe AI cos AI tickles your ears. You want salvation to be by works, dont you?

Truthseeker10:
So David disobeyed all of God's commandment and and instructions and was given salvation?

Did David disobey all?

Truthseeker10:
So your statement without any scriptural backing is God's word....but meta ai countering your statement is man-made🤣🤣.

Kindly prove to us that Abraham disobeying all of God's instructions to him = salvation.

Romans 4:6-7 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Truthseeker10:
I thought you were going to counter meta ai🤣🤣. You can continue the discussion with meta.

No na, can't even try that. Why will I rate a man-made entity over God's word.

Truthseeker10:
Good bye. The screenshot below proves that You're a false teacher.

So Meta Ai is not a false teacher
Ai known for creating fakes
That's hilarious 😂 😂 😂

Truthseeker10:
So if Abraham had refused to do all the things that God asked him to do, he would still be saved?

Of course, after all our father of faith lied to pharoah, committed adultery with Haggai, all against God's will. Yet still God's friend

Truthseeker10:
So Abraham did nothing but just believed in God and was saved?

Yes, that's what every saint knows, just the mental agreement that what God promised is true and must happen, 100% guarantees heaven. All the other good things you do after that is man's righteousness which God said is like filthy rags, but we're still exhorted to do them for the benefit of mankind.

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that Abraham's faith saved him only from physical suffering and not Eternal destruction according to James 2:20-24?

No that verse shows his faith was made perfect by his works.
Was made profitable to everyone around him, just like when he changed his name, but before God(which is heaven) his faith was already validated before he did all that.

Romans 4:2-3 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Richiez:
Repentance (change of mind) should always be followed by conversion (change of ways)

Correct word "Should always..."

Life is a dream, and love a drug

Truthseeker10:
So why do I need to obey and follow what James is saying in those verses if I am to be declared righteous and saved irrespective of what I do?

Explain James 2:14 if my works has nothing to do with Salvation.

James 2:14 is following the context of the chapter, faith can't save you from temporal physical suffering but faith alone in Christ alone absolutely saves from eternal destruction
The more important question is, why did Jesus have to die a sinners death if your works could save you eternally.
Sowing and reaping will always exist and obeying or disobeying God has effect in this life saved or unsaved. But entering heaven is all based on what Jesus did for us. If you decide to obey and love God you will have rewards in this life and the next, but heaven is free by faith because Jesus paid for everything with his blood.
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Truthseeker10:
So what is the point of James 2:24-26 if it has nothing to do with salvation?

In my humble opinion, it was written to expose the self-righteous and eye-servicers in the congregation.
Thats why the earlier part of the passage talks about judging ppl based on appearance
James 2:2-3 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

Truthseeker10:
So how were they saved with faith, What does the faith entails?

By trusting in Christ for heaven, by trusting the promise He made in John 3:16, 18, 36. Its all over.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

grandstar:
What of single dads- should right thinking women also avoid them?

Do you know what these 2 men have in common- Jeff Bezos and Saquille O'neil.

They were both raised by stepfathers, and they have fantastic relations with them

Shaquilee only discovered as a teenager that his stepfather wasn't his biological parent.

Jeff Bezos adopted his stepfather's name. I am sure O'niel too bares his stepdads surname.

Please stop demonizing all single mothers, and what about their dads?

This is the Grey pill that society wouldn't want anyone to know, that even male children are better in this regard. Men are just imbued with a higher sense of honor than women. Even boys. Yet most parents and guardians will put extra effort in the grooming and protection of the female child, most times to no avail cos there is a higher chance she may still grow up and forget the guide of her youth. We know why they do it though. Beauty blinds

The word repent is from the Greek word meta and noia
Meta meaning change
Noia meaning mind
A change of mind
It could be a change of mind from false gospels to the true gospel.
A change of mind from a way of lifestyle to another.
It's not altar call. Though that seems to be a recurrent practice in modern Christianity.
Though Jesus took our guilt and shame and death sentence on the cross. The only true way to assuage guilt is to trust in His sacrifice and believe in Jesus for Heaven.
And to restore fellowship with God, yes repentance of sins and confession to God privately will get you that.
But public showing of self is not repentance. Repentance is a heart work

Truthseeker10:
Explain James 2:26 below.

26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

James 2:1 MY BRETHREN, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons

First of, none of the writers of the new testament called someone a brother if they were not saved.

Hence this chapter is not a chapter talking about salvation, the people being addressed are already saved.

This chapter covers Christian service and how having faith alone which is enough for salvation is not enough for profitable works

joeyswift:
Dont judge her by her appearance. Her message is apt. There are tribes in Nigeria that when a married woman sleep with another man, her husband falls sick and eventually dies. I have noticed that married women engage in adultery quickly end up as widows.

which tribes pls, asking for a friend

Everyone sins everyday, this one is just another upcoming prosperity preacher, watch out

Kajaard:
The Mom is the one aged 40 with mighty tattoo on her breast

Why the 11 year old carry front pass elder sister and mama sef 😒

Police is your friend

I've always been a proponent of fight the battle you inherited, looking for greener pastures would leave you to fight other men's wars. But Nigeria! Haba....if you've been to teaching hospitals, your heart go bleed. Just the mere pricing culture that will make it's way into the ward for someone's life fa...not to talk of poor quality health care and the latest trend of demanding documents before attending to someone that needs to be in the emergency room. Safety is of the Lord las las, Nigeria will not happen to me or my family in Jesus name amen 🙏