₦airaland Forum

jl115:
All im saying is how would you know?

I would know because the president would have called for a corruption investigation into them by now.

Like recently when they misappropriated 4 million dollars and a Corruption investigation was carried out that led to 3 people being imprisoned last month.

jl115:
100% its not clandestine institution neither should any defence force be!

our defence for is not a clandestine institution. Military, Police all have their duties.

For national security reason
Clandestine institutions are form to carry out espionage activities like spying on citizens or collecting intelligence to prevent terrorist from having a field day

jl115:
Don't worry I will in a bit.....but im not done playing with you!!

Now tell me did I photoshop this photo with a watermark as well

this is MI 28 Havoc

vaxx:
some 35 poor Kenyans has lost their life from the hands of incompetent Kenyan police during this lockdown

meant to happen

Kenyans don't have rights
They live in a totalitarian banana republic.

If even a single Ghanaian had lost his life at the hands of police, the entire police institution will be sued.

TayserMahri:
As always you know nothing. British secret service is not the same as secret police. They dont have secret police. The Germans too no longer have a secret police since the Fuhrer's Gestapo. Ghana is the only modern day banana republic with a secret police. Read some of your history and see that Nkrumah was the one who used Ghana secret police to intimidate opponents.

Ghana Secret Police is modelled on the British Secret Service. They carry our the same duties.

After 1960 when the Ghanaian government requested the British secret service to seize all activities here. The establishment was renamed and remodelled to carry out a wide range of activities that include espionage.

These are reasons why, extremist groups do not succeed to carry out plots in Ghana. Unlike how they have a free hand in the banana republic of kenya.

gallivant:
Banana Republic things.

see a poor guy from a totalitarian country talking about banana Republic when he is residing in a classic one where he has no rights

TayserMahri:
Lol what's this BINI you keep mentioning. Everyone knows Ghana has no military.

see another dumb dumb

The conversation is not on military.

Your friend rvp2018 was busy talking about your CIA

jl115:
cool story bro!! Keep making excuses like its a Black Budget!! All you are doing is making excuses for corruption.

At least I know exactly where my tax money is going with regards to military expenditure.... And I also know if and when they waste my money

corruption in not an issue here especially in association to misappropriation of funds.

jl115:
As I've stated before the entire sandf budget is transparent and audited... Things like secret/black budgets don't exist here

sandf is not a clandestine institution.

The entire budgetary spending of Ghana military can be found on the military high command website.


Here, a black budget is necessary for national security.

jl115:
If that budget is not audited how do you know its not looted?

looting cannot happen in any part of the Ghanaian state apparatus.

You can raise issues about value for money but not looting, it basically can't happen.

Only the president of Ghana, by a legal instrument, can call for an investigation into the activities of any part of the clandestine institutions by setting up a committee of judges from the supreme court.

TayserMahri:
Hope you know that secret police is meant for political opponents. Secret police are intelligence, security or police agencies that engage in covert operations against a government's political opponents and dissidents. Secret police organizations are characteristic of authoritarian and totalitarian regimes. If that's why you don't reveal your secret police budget then we all understand the banana nature of your Republic. You should change your secret police name to Gestapo.

sorry kiddo
Here secret police are not meant for political opponents.
This is not Kenya.

Here, they are separate from all those institutions.
Their activities border on national security.


If Britain is a totalitarian regime them I will say that Ghana is happy to associate itself with good totalitarian regimes like Britain and Germany were secret police don't brutalised citizens like the Banana republic of Kenya.



Childish children who knows nothing about state apparatus

Except no looting takes place because recurrent and operational expenses are already know and it is based on which budget are allocated.

Parliamentary Account Committee carried out their own audit to make sure all monies allocated were used according to law and for the purposes they were allocated.

Parliament duties ends there, they cant touch the Clandestine services.

jl115:
seems like an excuse to loot state funds if you ask me!

Here, the military does not make any purchases

They make recommendation to government and government purchase everything they need, separate of their budgetary allocation.

When an audit is carried out, Government is the institution that is audited based on their spending

rvp2018:
Public knows. Parliament knows a lot more. Parliament sub committee on security (who have to take a oath) get to know nearly all of it. The defence ministry and president obviously know everything.

The auditor-general is free to audit the entire budget.

Military generals get indicted for corruption and are fired.

For example: Auditor General Edward Ouko has queried the purchase of 32 Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs) by the Kenya Defence Forces at Sh1.1 billion.

You missed the discussion

no one is referring to the defence force but Clandestine Security activities.

jl115:
I don't have to google sh1t to know that a defence force should be audited like any other institution.

The SANDF for one does not have a black budget.... Anything that can not be traced is listed as wasteful expenditure!!

This is how it works in SA anyway!

National Security which is referring to BNI receives 200M dollars as allocation from Parliament.
BNI receives an addition 200 million dollars from the Ministry of interior as a share the that ministry budget break down.

The rest of your write up is nonsense that does not deserve a reply.



so you see how small your CIA is

rvp2018:
Your total security budget that I saw was 550M Ghana cedis. That is like 100M dollars. You're hidding behind black budget because we know you spend very little in security.

So much 5,000 Chinese gangs have invaded your country and carted away gold worth 5B dollars every year for 10yrs.

That is a whopping 50B dollars gone to Chinese gangs. They go back to China and build their cities with your money. And then Anglo Ashanti is doing the rest...I doubt you have intelligence enough to figure out the Jews gangs.

At least South Africa used their gold to build Johannesburg - but look at Ghana - your biggest town is hideous.

Now you are contracdicting yourself

you moved from only parliament knows the breakdown.



Ghana's parliament approve budgets in whole and not their breakdowns


The only BANAN republic that Africa knows in Kenya.
Nothing works there.



Here, Our Defence Ministry has it own budget
National security has it own budget
Secret police has their black budget, they can do anything with it based on laws of allocation.

rvp2018:
Let me tell you about Kenya.

The public KNOW the total budget for security sector - including major breakdowns.

The parliament's budget committee and security committee get to see the breakdown - because they have to approve it.

The money goes to the budget controller - and she get to see how the money is spent - but the military or security - don't need to disclose what they buy.The IFMIS - Public Finance MIS - will have military and security spending.

The military has an internal audit. The internal security are under Auditor-General.

The Auditor-General will get to audit the security budget. They can be denied access to somethings but generally they get to see the big picture.

Parliament PAC - Accounts Committee - can summon civilian oversight of military - in kenya we have defence ministry with Minister/Cabinet Secretary and PS - to answer queries regarding security budget.

So there is a great deal of oversight.

What you're describing in Ghana is BANANA republic.

He knows nothing about the oil market

dont be surprised

Danielnino00:
You are pained ain't you ?

You predicted that oil will fall to $10 ..lol..

You are misunderstanding the argument you yourself raised.

You said the breakdown of your security budget is only know by parliament.
And you earlier said your CIA budget is 200M (meaning its made up since you dont know what is allocated to them)

And I told you that, the budget for BNI which is the civilian arm of Ghana Secret Police is more than your CIA budget which you made up.
And that our secret police itself has a black budget.
Parliament knows about the black budget but they cant break it down.

When they count democracies in Africa, Kenya is not part because you guys practise a flawed democracy.

rvp2018:
Very laughable. Total budget is known. The breakdown is unknown. Security budget generally is un-audited - which KaziKazi has explained could lead to corruption. Your misunderstand opaqueness.

When you talk about coups - what will Kenya or Tanzania say - countries that have never had any successful coup.

In most modern democracies (exclude Ghana) - including Kenya - the security budget is still somewhat audited - verified - but parliament and audit office that swear to secrecy - and there is civilian authority of the military.

Now if you country has a rogue security sector that is un-supervised - and have a budget - nobody - not even parliament knows about - then no wonder you're just little Nigeria in the number of coups.

Here, the Auditor General has no authority in any military or secret Police matters.

jl115:
100% disagree security services should and are audited every year!! the South African DOD is audited every year by the Auditor General!!

rvp2018:
Your total budget is security budget is 100m dollars. . Ministry of National Security (GH¢555 million).

There is nothing like
ministry of national security

Don't makeup stuff again.




Ghana secret Police budget is bigger than that small 200 million dollars that you made up for your CIA.

You rant a lot for a nothing burger


Your CIA is nothing compare to Ghana secret intelligence agency let alone Ghana BNI which is the known part (civilian part) of Ghana secret intelligence agency.
ie: Secret Police

They have an entire black budget

rvp20182:
IActually you're a bad example..our CIA like budget is bigger than most countries militaries and the budget is for about 500 unarmed civilians.Nigeria really need to invest in such...Our intelligence use to be best in Africa but I bet now they are untouchable..they know what you are for lunch and with who.That how countries like US wins war

The little IMF colony is speaking

Lets give them a hearing

What hunger program does kenya need to be supported in again?



Zombie

gallivant:
You are suffering from IMF withdrawals if the IMF was a hard drug. Hang in there hobbit.

Monosyllabic


crazy unintelligent lazy kenyan

gallivant:
Tantrums.

gallivant:
Will you shut up. We are talking military matters not the IMF and World Bank.

Shut the hell up

you know nothing

Your country is basically an IMF lab.



the road side rebels you call a military is not even up to Togo Military.

Who ever wrote that article lied to you

That is a Chinese Helicopter

Wuoche:
The good thing you would have done is to ask for either another picture or when they were purchased and where. Here is another Mi28
https://intelligencebriefs.com/a-look-at-kdfs-mi-28-havoc-attack-helicopters-delivered-from-russia/

He doesnt know the difference

jl115:
That's not a Mi28...that's a Harbin Z-9

I know

English language is your problem


I didn't expect an uneducated slave to get it

gallivant:
Things a wizard or a sorcerer would say. It could be pidgin for all I know either way makes no sense.

That shit does not even cost half a million dollars

Abohboy:
Only in Kenya, the corruption hub of Africa

Good you're taping your mouth

go Scorch Earth so Kenya doesn't go hungry

gallivant:

At least, you've upgraded from being monosyllabic

gallivant:
Tantrums of a hobbit.

to them, every little thing is an achievement

samorobo:
If the idiot dlonra has just one of this kind of videos(most especially when it is coming from BBC) he would throw it at our face that black Americans are choosing Kenya over East Africa..such a close minded , unexposed cave man....They are just too mediocre..

I can see the fear in your words


shameful

gallivant:
More tantrums.