rvp20182: African are igneous as they have to eke a living... nobody deliberately set out or imagine vans or motorbikes would be used as public transportation...as long as they are unmet needs... someone will create business out of anything...most invention like mpesa or mobile money started that way...now accepted worldwide.
yes people set out vans for mini mass transportation and that was the purpose for it creation. Motorcycles are meant for personal use and not as a tool for mass transport.
It is not an invention but society degrading into a mess because of poor financing and mass poverty sending people into such traps
rvp20182: None of those beat bikes...bikes work everywhere anywhere like you mobile phones..I remember in 2001 arguing in online forum why Africa need phones n computer..then Joburg had more landlines than entire Africa.Manhattan island alone had more telephone than Africa.Now it's changed completely.Bikes ticks most last miles needs.Once you sort the excessive noise through electric motor the rest is easy.Its a shame your own country is being left out...as you engage in taxi wars
you're still on this nonsense?
No society should commercialize bikes for public transportation option... You only find that in poor countries like Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda and some poor east Asian countries
rvp20182: South Africa is conflicted country best exemplified by hunting Boer and slum dog here...one part is developed..the other party need to embrace it's poverty and look for appropriate transport services for it's poor
rvp2018: The 1% need motor bikes. I am not worried abou them. I got enough worries already. In your derision of motor bikes - you're missing out. It's not kenya that is missing. Kenya is filling gaps in their transport services while providing employment to a million riders.
filling gaps with motorcycle and bicycles, what happened to taxis ?
AfriqueDuZuid: Rural places have tarred roads, proper roads their are accessible SA
You see East African countries are very rural and underdeveloped, starting with Kenya which is 70% rural, Rwanda 90% rural, Uganda 80% rural, Sudan same only Tanzania 60%rural....
Where do you think 750 000km Road network is carved, again public transportation is available everywhere,
Botswana, Namibia, Swaziland, and Lesotho are fine ....those are SACU members
rvp2018: Mad cow ->It's one of the biggest sovereign bond defaults of 2022, if hardly unexpected: Ghana announced Monday that it would no longer service most it debt.
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Focus on the budgetary support lifeline that IMF is giving your govt ... It is less than 5% of what you need else people won't be paid in your country
A suspension is not a default until a payment is due and not made.. a suspension is a negotiation strategy
rvp2018: I have no problem with traditional housing - I have a problem with sick being transported in wheelbarrow. Wheel barrows are not mode of transport. In kenya before we allowed duty free entry of motor bikes somewhere in 2010 - they were a rarity. But now they are life savers esp in remote rural areas. And they have provided a million job.
And that is what you're missing - because while the Boer can afford 4WD pickup - your mother there is being wheeled by your father in a wheelbarrow.
And you're here claiming motor bikes was never a mode of transport - why dont you walk then?
the day I saw Kenyans even use bicycles as public transport, you pay and hop on the back of someone riding.... I felt sad for you guys
rvp2018: The usual madness started early. Zambia that defaulted - two year ago - are yet to conclude their debt restructuring as creditors refuse to play ball. You're in for a long economic darkness. Till 2040.
Well Ghana hasn't yet ... That's why you're still waiting for us to.
Kenya has and has been doing so for two years already, as well as doing carry forward... Till 2060, Kenya will not be able to reduce it 140% 2 item consumption of revenue looting at how your deficit keeps increasing.
rvp2018: They are not used as public transport anywhere except poor country like Ghana that buys 30yr old such car. First eliminate 30yr old cars in your roads. Secondly at least define the enviromental standards for you cars.
okay scratch all that.
First nobody take advice from poor and broke countries.
First pay debt....then we talk in 2040....we are really wasting time talking to a broke country
Cry of a guy from a poor country that can't provide better options for it citizens hence they have to rely on terrible ways of transport
They are used as public transport buses in Germany, Poland, Romania, USA, Austria, France and etc.
Go pay your debt and stop defaulting and doing carry forward ..
Broke Kenya can't provide good options of transportation for Kenyans
Why are taxis not common in Kenya such that your next option goes straight down the pit to motorcycles?
rvp2018: Sound like a lame excuse. Sprinter vans were not designed for public transport but you convert them to Trotos - same case south african convert vans to public taxi. Motor bikes can be electrified and organized like Rwanda has done. They are great in beating traffic jams, accessing remote areas and providing employment to millions.
You wont be broke like now if you embraced such common sensical approach to issues.
If you have mass capacity vans and invested in creating freeways without traffic intersections, you wouldnt be having much traffic congestions for you to be thinking backward that putting 500,000 motorbikes on the road to carry one passenger each is more beneficial than putting 50,000 vans to carry 500,000 people.
rvp2018: That is why they are going electrical - next excuse. How is travelling in upcountry south africa like? Must be difficult. If you had motor bike transport services - your rural areas wont look desolate.
This is how your mother house look like in rural south africa - and you're here denigrating motor bikes.
Whether they go electrical or not ... Motorcycles should never be used for public transportation.
It's different when you're using it for your private stuff but carting people in motorbikes in this day and age, then I guess we should go back to ridding donkey
rvp2018: How is using motor bike for public transport a problem or an issue? They are meant for transportation. In kenya they employ close to a million people and is critical industry providing critical transport service.
The Trotos you use in Ghana - are they used for public transport outside Ghana
yes The Sprinter vans and ,207s we use here are use for public transportation outside.... It has mass capacity hence economical with less footprint.
Motorcycles are a nuisance, environmental mess and complete road rage.
In Ghana we only permit them in our northern poor areas and even there, it is mostly privately owned and used.
rvp2018: The future is actually motorcyle - Veitnam export 12B dollars worth of them. I hope we focus there and EV. For employment - we need heavy steel industry.
So I would say 1) spare parts 2) motor cycles 3) EV for cars & buses and 4) heavy passenger and goods vehicles. We have established the foundation for all these - we just need accelerate the next 5yrs.
Bankrupt Ghana - pay debt first. Nobody will invest in a bankrupt country.
Rant of an ignoramus.... Motorcycles are left for poor people from bankrupt nations like Kenya who have no option but
Kenya is too poor such that it has to rely on such backwardness.
If everyone where to use motorcycle, I'm not sure you'll have a place to step
rvp2018: Those are cheap chinese imports. Kenya manufacture very high quality flatbeds, tipper, topper and all of those type that are used in whole of eastern africa region. Bhachu is gold standard in the region
Those are proper assemblers assembling some of the Isuzu trucks and Chinese brands you were happy posting here Have you seen how big their production facility is?
I'm sure if Kenya did any serious manufacturing, it will be available for even satellite to see
Meanwhile this is more of the assemblers I didn't mentioned... More newer ones have filled this park