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NTSA:
Prove to us you even understand what you're talking about here.....I will be out once you do that.

I've already done

You are the one still here arguing when you don't know that a bullet wound profile shows it lethality

NTSA:
I Know all that .but the only wound profile doesn't prove shit...that's why am telling you to stop throwing around images fry Google.
Alternatively you can show a wound profile of a 50 bmg ..and prove to us that 5.56 is more rethal since it has some fragementions

wound profile proves the lethality of the bullet ...

It's basically giving you want happens when the bullet hit ...

If you want to argue, post that of 7.62 and let's talk

Now that I've refused you to whataboutism , we can end this discussion

NTSA:
Pliz explain to me what metal has to do with stopping power.? ...in short the more the stopping power the more the likely hood you are going to end up dead.i don't know what you are really arguing about.

since you are the one mentioning stopping power against metals, I'm asking you if you go to the battle field to fight against metals..?

So why don't you explain to every one or you want me to do that job too for you?

A bullet lethality does not work that way kid

NTSA:
WTF is the image all about?..the bottom line is the 5.56 is not is powerful as a 7.62 ..not unless you are daft.

Don't you know how to read an image properly labelled?

See someone who can't even read an image calling someone dumb wonder will never end.

That's a wound profile from a 5.56 impact

NTSA:
aren't you the same guy who talking about stopping power against metal.WTF is that?

Go and read my comment again...

Do you go to the battlefield to fight against metals or humans ?

NTSA:

Good

I like it when a dumb person get silenced

NTSA:
And what has that got to do with the fact that a 7.62 x 51 has more stopping power than a 5.56?..
Every different weapon has a unique wound profile

Study this and you will know why 5.56 is more lethal

NTSA:
Pliz come back when you have basic understanding of what is stopping power ...don't just throw around Images.

if you knew what stoping power you were talking about, you won't be struggling to define it and still confuse it to Lethality.

NTSA:
Here we go again .

you mean here you go again?

How about you type something sensible and not confuse damage from force on impact and damage from fragmentation on Impact.

Mkenya2019:
One district one market how did the industries go?

There is nothing like one district one market

These are compulsory infrastructure for a district to have..

Schools from KG to junior High level.
Markets
Hospitals
Roads and drainage
Electricity and water.
Waste management


One district one factory is going great with over 600 factories set up

jl115:
debatable since the SANDF have never ranked lower than 3rd in any international combat rifle shooting competition since 1994

This is funny because we are not talking about shooting competition

jl115:
against a person or whatever the hell you are shooting

against a person, it does not when you compare the damage from both bullets


This is the damage of the 5.56mm

NTSA:
You would have done better if you had a counteractive argument.

why would I argue to nonsense ?

Mkenya2019:
Those are two. Where are the rest.

what are listed are 2?

Every single district has it own well built market and we have 275 of them.... Only Kenya is overflowing with open flea markets.

Another Beautiful huge community of Kumasi with huge mansions. A community that you will have to combine all the good communities of Kenya to meet it size


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQbchSnwlxU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-odhCQ3ve0

jl115:
nope its not........if that was the case then there wouldn't be laws restricting the use of smaller calibres on certain game animals if theoretically they where more leathal

you know that both the 30/30 and 30/06 power calibres are all used for hunting right ?

jl115:
rifles like the Ak47, Galil/R4 don't jam nearly as much and are much much much more reliable

and none of them are as accurate as the M4 M16

jl115:
none of what you mentioned above I was arguing...... All I said which is 100% fact is that 7.62x51 has more stopping power than 7.62x39 and 5.62........thats what I said.

And they don't have the same penetration btw

stopping power against what ?

A question you've not been able to answer

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NTSA:
Don't use terms just because you read some articles.
1.all if not most bullets will tumble in one way or another even the smaller 9mm
2...5.56 does not explode on impact( it's not an armor piercing round)
3. If a bullet get stuck inside it reduces bleeding to some extent and if it won't be removed you can still survive I have seen war vetrans with bullet wounds where the bullet hasn't been removed for years .
4.The only thing a 5.56 has over a 7.62 is the wieght.

5. Even when shot in the leg you are most likely to die from a 7.62 x 51 ..while you can continue fighting when shot by a 5.56.

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Complete nonsense

NTSA:
Why do you like arguing so much just display your ignorance and stupidity.
Basically the more the stopping power the more likely you are going to end up dead or incapacitated.

what stoping power are you talking about when the bullet goes straight through the body ?


You keep acting stupid and talking dumb by ignoring simple physics..

Do you know how much damage a bullet that explodes of tumble in you can cause ?
Why will you stupidly compare it to something that will just pass through you?


You just like to argue stupidly and it's dumb

Mkenya2019:
Pictures and data - not online diarhea. Why do you have umbrella and hawkers all over your towns?

Makola alone has several, there is Kaneshie, Cape Coast, Osu,kejetia also has several and each of Ghana 275 districts have well built ones.

Why do you have umbrellas, sheds, kiosks, and hawkers all around your country ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fHX_Q-kDpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZncDysQUA

Mkenya2019:
Soon you'll be nuts like the Ghanian here.

Good you know that your country is worth comparing better countries than it.

At least you aiming a bit high

Mkenya2019:
While Ghana have only built one market for informal trades in Kumasi - kenya has completed 64 markets in the last 5yrs. These are markets for informal traders.

you still need to build more to catch up with what Ghana has, we have over 275 well built ones for each district

jl115:
there is no argument, the 5.56 is by far the better infantry calibre however it 100% doesn't have nearly the same stopping power than the 7.62

It is 100% more lethal to the human body than a 7.62.

Don't confuse impact on metal to impact on human body..

I hope you are not referring to stoping power in the case of a metal

jl115:
It jamed in Afghanistan, it Jamed in South Africa during exercise shared accord.... Its a fvcking horrible AR... The only thing it is good at is accuracy

Still more reliable than most rifle you can ever think of.

IT jammed because it was placed under more strenuous conditions like in the battle of Wanat.

That battle had more contact time than any other battle rifle will ever experience..

jl115:
By bru 7.62x51 has over 30% more energy than 7.62x39

Just LOOK at the fvcking difference bru!!!

And 7.62x51 is less effective for close engagement which is today's modern battlefield, a place where the 7.62x39 is king
Also you've forgotten our earlier convo about the dimensions of the 7.62x51 making it heavier and hence soldiers packing less rounds even compared to the 7.62x39.

In today's modern battlefield where point of contact is 400meters and less, why carry a magazine that has less bullet yet more heavier? Especially when they have the same penetration power

jl115:
my bru go do some actual research instead of watching some propaganda YouTube videos.... The bru literally claimed the m4 is the best AR my bru the m4 is a piece of sh1t that overheats and jams...

What I will say is that the 5.56 is the best infantry calibre!!!

You actually dont know the variants he was talking about (the A4 variants) solves most of the A1 issues




Good you know the highlighted and that is why it is the best and why all good soldiers rely on it

jl115:
not even close

Actually the same on the scale

you can check it up

NTSA:
The mere shock wave is enough to rapture ateries deep inside the body.

never

Just incase you dont know how soft contact absord shock waves, go and learn that one too ..



The only shock waves that affect the body are larger ones that can cause pressure caps

NTSA:
He is making comparison with an Ak 7.62 x 39. not 7.62 x 51 get your basics right

not just the ak 7.62 but also the 7.6 51 because they are similar bullets with the same ballistic impact.



Learn

jl115:
All depended on ammunition, I guarantee a hollow point 7.62 will do way more damage than a hollow point 5.56.

Its been researched several times and soldiers will confess that 7.62 has way more stopping power.

Personally I can also tell you that 7.62 has more stopping power than 5.56 since I've hunted with 223, 3006 and 308.

These are real soldiers testifying to the lethality of the 5.56 over the 7.62

The thing is even demonstrated for you to see as well as a ballistic report provided which shows why the 5.56 is dangerous.

A bullet that penetrates the body is less lethal to humans than say a bullet that tumbles several times in it or explodes on impact in the body.
I can guarantee you that.

This is just simple physics

NTSA:
He is just googling stuff and making wierd claims ..from claiming Kenya operates a SCAR L, to posting images of Kenyan soldiers and claiming they are Ghanian and posting some Ak 12 and SCARs claiming they are M4s

you are reaching


That's shows a sign of desperation