₦airaland Forum

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=669806.msg8343283#msg8343283 date=1305705747]Eh, Lagos is Yorubaland, is it not? In case you haven't noticed, Yoruba folk have been a "we" for a while now.

In any case, there are 6 states in this SW zone. Since I'm a member of this zone, I can be "bragging" as much as I like about Lagos.[/quote]You are from EKITI State. EKITI has never been in Lagos state and will not be in a million years. EKITI is different from Lagos state.
If you can brag with Lagos state that is not your state, why do you have problems with people bragging with Lagos even if Lagos is not their state?
Is Yoruba a state? So, Yorubas in Ghana, Brazil, Benin etc can brag about Lagos state too?
So, I, an Igbo can comfortably claim Delta and Rivers state that's got Igbos too? I should brag that you shouldn't be drinking "OUR" Oil?
You guys only favor claims when you need it to be at an advantage. That is pathetic.
Make una no make me laugh sha.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=669806.msg8343247#msg8343247 date=1305705427]Heck, even Cotonou area (which was a superior port to Lagos before this 1750s period or so) is pretty decently developed. . . it probably contains the lion's share of Benin Republic's GDP.

And Lagos has been superior to Cotonou for like 250+ years now. . .

A good port is a good port. We are lucky that God blessed us with this advantage.[/quote]I thought you are from Ekiti state? Which one be "We"? You bragging with Lagos land? for what?
So you expect to exhibit bragging right over it, why shouldn't I? After all we are Nigerians.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=669806.msg8343148#msg8343148 date=1305704398]what did i do to u

whatever man, so i should not say the truth when it is needed

NO ONE SHOULD REPLY THE BIGOT BEAF[/quote]He has not insulted any ethnic group. He is facing individuals head on. That doesn't qualify him as a bigot. You on the other hand is a qualified bigot. Just today, you have made a statement anticipating the massacre of Igbos by OPC. What is that called? Botherhood? And you said I should not spit on you?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=669806.msg8343130#msg8343130 date=1305704169]@dem_people: I'm not vilifying anyone's ethnic group, I don't think. I'm just setting the record straight. It is very arrogant for someone to claim they built someone else's city/territory.

And in this case wrong, since it wasn't as if they did it for free.[/quote]Lagos was not built by Lagos indegenes or even Yorubas. If Lagos was never a  capital of Nigeria, it would have been like Oyo and other SW states. Probably, the port would have been a fishing point. The whole essence of Lagos would have been down.
On the contrary, If Calabar had remained the capital of Nigeria, it would have had the same story that Lagos is having now. Even with the small impact of the "Colonial capital status" on Calabar, you can still see some elements of infrastructural sophistication, just that it was never complemented by the Nigerian government.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=669806.msg8343111#msg8343111 date=1305704028][size=18pt]no one should reply the spam beaf [/size][/quote]Why? Because he mentioned your name? GERRRRROUT OF HERE!!! Ewu!

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=669806.msg8342965#msg8342965 date=1305702521]@Justcash:

My brother. Buying a piece of land and building a home on it is not "single-handedly" building Lagos. What does that even mean? You aren't buying the land and building it for a charity, yes? It is an investment opportunity. And key word is opportunity.

So you mean to tell me that if someone gives you an investment opportunity, you are the one doing them a favor? Rather than vice versa?

If my buddy gives me a stock tip and I make a killing off it it, the corporation I profited from is the one doing me a favor?[/quote]
Lagos did not give anyone any opportunity. It is Nigerians, made up of Igbos, Hausas, Yorubas etc that built and are building Lagos state till date.
The only people that can talk of opportunities are foreigners. As long as Lagos state is concerned, it was made great by the collective effort of Nigerians. More because it was once a very important state as a capital of Nigeria. Also, the developed infrastructures located there, that were built with Nigeria's public funds, gave it more prominence and importance.
I keep saying that Igbos CONTRIBUTED ALOT to building Lagos state. That doesn't mean  that other parts didn't contribute too.
If you sincerely want to compare the SW and the SE, use other states that never had any federal recognition. When you do that, you'll see the true picture.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=669806.msg8342904#msg8342904 date=1305701611]Most of the ones I looked into have nothing to do with Igbos. The railroad for example, construction work is being done by CCECC.

Anyway, it isn't as if Lagos has ever been in a situation where it needed investment for a project and was begging Igbos to invest. Having access to an investment opportunity is the state doing a favor for you, not vice versa.

That is what is so annoying about all of this to me. . . the tail is thinking it is wagging the dog rather than vice versa.

Or are these billion-dollar projects, is the money being sourced from Igboland? The South African and Australian banks that provided a loan for Lekki Toll Road, is that Igbo owned?

To be quite blunt. . . in no way shape or form have you developed Lagos. Buying some land and building a property on it is nice, but pretty much everyone is doing this. It wasn't as if you met a virgin, undeveloped territory and  built it into a juggernaut.[/quote]
Well, just wanted you to know that Igbos played a big part in building Lagos state. I don't know the rate of real estate investments by Igbos, but from my judgement, they are of great deal. I alone have homes and few ware houses in Lagos state. In Banana iseland, where my last investment is, Igbos own majority of the lands there. I also know some areas where Igbos have bought up most lands in Lagos state. So, I feel Igbos invest pretty much in Lagos state.

That being said, Lagos is way more attractive than most Northern, SW and SE states. So, I expect that people that are asking why Igbos don't invest in SE should ask why Yorubas from Ondo, Ekiti, Osun, Oyo etc don't do same in their states.
It is about strategic importance and attractiveness of a place. Lagos have built a reputation as an important investment point, so the huge investment by Nigerians should not be a basis of asking questions about why they don't invest in their home states.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=669806.msg8342836#msg8342836 date=1305700918]So I guess[b] Eko Atlantic, Lekki FTZ, Lekki toll road, the new rail [/b]are also being single-handedly developed by Igbos, yes? 

Very delusional and overrated people.

Turn your talents to developing your homeland, rather than making excuses for failure and incompetence.[/quote]You are talking of infrastructures still  being developed from 2007-2011, yet to be completed. Come on, you can do better. Dig em out. I hope you can bring out stuffs that was not contributed to by Igbos.
You should be damn sure that a big chunk of private investors in those ones that you mentioned are of Igbo origin. Search, you will see.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=653960.msg8342751#msg8342751 date=1305699832]nope i think u are the one being illogical

no one spoke of osun, the case is clear

IF U ARE YORUBA AND IN LAGOS, U CAN CLAIM LAGOSIAN

IF YOU ARE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU CAN CLAIM LAGOSIAN BUT U ARE NOT A TRUE LAGOSIAN

the facts are down, if igbos are ture lagosian, why did they run away during abiola's mandate, why

why did they go to the east

we northerners are even more lagosian than igbos because we did not run

osun oo no osun, i think no one is force lagos down your mouth

so long as u are igbo, hausa, yes kanuri, ibibio etc you are not a lagosian

the reality will flash to u all when OPC starts[/quote]You are talking rubbish. Fake Lagosian ko True Lagosian Ni. After some time now, you will transform and start claiming an Igbo man. Anumanu. OPC will start with Hausa Lagosians first. Na for Idi araba dem go butcher una. Ewu

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=653960.msg8342727#msg8342727 date=1305699346]All thses your long sentences are a reflection of the fear of an average ibo man and also inferiority complex.If me as a yoruba man does not claim to be a lagosian despite being born and brought up there,why will an ibo man that is also born and brought up in lagos claim to be a lagosian ? I'm from ogun state,I just take lagos and Abuja as my place of residence even though I have stayed long in these places.How many hausa man claim to be ibo or how many ibos in kano claim to be hausa ?[/quote]
The reality on ground is way different from what you guys spew here. Lagosians on ground no care about where you from or where you will be going to. If you are lagosian, and you can describe certain places in Lagos state or adequately say where you were born in Lagos state, or even give a Lagos address where you reside, you will be considered a LAGOSIAN irrespective of ethnicity. There is nothing like real or fake Lagosian.
If you are talking of ethnicity, I will tell you that Yes, Lagos is in Yorooba land, which is in Nigeria. But as par LAGOSIANS, it is not only Yoroobas. Sorry if that offends you. You can either ask for division or go and hug a transformer.

Eko Ile:
Olodo efulefu, who dey talk about enjoyment? We are talking about dum.b joan stringing ibo people along like puppet while ibo people dey follow like tolotolo,,,

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=669806.msg8342673#msg8342673 date=1305698455]Well said!
Honestly how can entire ethnic group with all their professional will allow mediocre like GEJ to be feed on their intelligents RAW? Instead of asking him to sign a written agreement to that effect they are here celebrating stuupidity. Always despoiling the mind hard working igbo mind? What a shame!

I guess they should be equally expecting the air craft industry he promise them. Lmao!

When jona was making that kind of statement to sultan the aboki man say make them bring paper write everything wey him talk and sign the bobo cut out. lol[/quote]I just say make I ask. The way you guys castigate the Igbos, one would think Yoroobas are well off. Meanwhile, you guys are in no way better one bit. A typical case of the kettle calling the pot black. SMH

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=653960.msg8342689#msg8342689 date=1305698726]its ok

igbos are lagosians[/quote]I am not talking about only Igbos. Every Nigerian in Lagos state, Efik, Ibibio, Ijaw, Isoko, Hausa, Fulani etc are Lagosians. Don't make it an Igbo thing. The post is about "who Lagosians are", and not "if Igbos are Lagosians".
This is the root of the Jos crisis. People that fought for one Nigeria now looking for a way to ensure a DIVIDED UNITY. SMH

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=653960.msg8342619#msg8342619 date=1305697220]It's only ibos in lagos that are claiming to be lagosians cuz I'm yet to see a yoruba from Ekiti,ogun,osun,ondo and oyo claiming to be a lagosian.If you want to know,I have lived in Lagos and Abuja for a long time and I have never claimed those to be from these places because my origin still lies in ogun state.
It's just like a yoruba man with thick marks going to Onitsha to claim indigeneship simply because he has spent years in Onitsha.How many federal jobs have you seen ibos being given slots in lagos and other yoruba states ? So what's the point in an ibo claiming to be a lagosian when he can't benefit from the privileges of such status ? Ibos are just squatters in lagos .[/quote][b]
Yoroobas claim to be Lagosians. The first response to this post is an evidence.
Contrary to your belief, Igbos in Lagos state are Lagosians. By right ,any Nigerian born and bred in Lagos state is a full blown indegene of Lagos state. If you don't like that, pray for Nigeria to divide for that to change.
Igbos once did not want to be Lagosians, but it was your Yorooba fathers that fought for Igbos to remain with them.
No matter how you want to twist and turn it, Nigeria is for Nigerians. Lagos does not in anyway belong to Yoroobas. Yes, it may have belonged to the indegenes of the lands in the past  (Before independence), but now, it belongs to every Nigerian.
For example, I have houses in Lagos state, and I live in each of them anytime I want. I demand for equal right with other Nigerians, and I get them, because I am Nigerian. No Yorooba man can trespass my lands just because I am an Igbo man, and I don't pay any extra fee that is different from what Yoroobas pay. What other evidence do you need?
When Fashola was contesting for elections, he consulted with Igbo and Hausa Lagosians. He begged for their votes. If he plans as the governor of the state, he does so for Lagosians and not Yoroobas.
Stop deceiving yourselves. Lagos is owned by Lagosians, including me (I own part of Lagos) and Nigerians in general. You cannot change that. If you want to take my properties from me, please go and push for division. If not, stop crying foul play.[/b]

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=669806.msg8342609#msg8342609 date=1305697002]Are you on drugs or what? Don't you EVER mention my name AGAIN!!! Idio*t[/quote]Who is this ranting dirty Rhino?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=653960.msg8342557#msg8342557 date=1305695522]u joking right!!![/quote]Why did you think that I was joking?

apoti:
I stayed in Owerri for almost 7 years, I was never seen as an 'imolite' or an 'igbo' (i never wanted to be anyway)  .
I remember my neighbours call me names like 'obasanjo brother' and 'Yoruba man' , it was very annoying at first but I had to live with it.

As far as Nigeria is concerned bear ya papa name o! Lagos is for Yoruba 

[b]There is a difference between being a Lagosian and wanting to be a Lagosian. You dint want to be known as an Imolite, that didn't stop you from being an imolite. When you were there, you were an imolite. You didn't need to be checked by the immigration or stamped in and out when you went there. That is because you are Nigerian, which qualifies you to live and die in any state as a citizen.
Being an imolite does not mean only Igbos from Imo state. Same goes for being a Lagosian. That is how it is on ground.

Your last statement is indeed contrary to the definition of being Nigerian. You can only answer your father's name when Nigeria divides. For now, you are a Nigerian and a member of any state that you are residing in. I am so sure that you are very much against division, but still you want to answer your father's name. Stop confusing yourself. Support division of Nigeria so that you can really answer your father's name, or simply keep quiet and accept things as they are. As I am speaking, millions of Igbos exist as Lagosians. I have also seen Imolites of Yoruba and Hausa origins. You cannot do anything about it.[/b]

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=668398.msg8330778#msg8330778 date=1305550042]No one should be allow  to board those trains without TRIBAL MARKS on his face![/quote]
HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah! This mumu go kill person with laugh o!

Na every Yoruba person get tribal marks? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!