chieveboy:



This thread is beyond the bible as you xan see. So do not of necessity need to peg it around the Bible, regardless if we quote it.

This is one issue I have with you and adherents of the grail message, why use the bible to back up your point? Stop quoting the bible, it's an archaic irrelevant book, stop giving it relevance by quoting it please.

Michael547:

You claimed the bible does lie.....it therefore means that you have the truth. Isn't it?

What truth?? Bola Ahmed Tinubu is the current president of Nigeria is a truth, lion is a carnivorous animal is a truth, goat cannot fly is also a truth. So what truth are you talking about specifically?

chieveboy:


I to in line with the current circumstance do not know what that thing is, Paul however implies one can go to heaven with it or without it.

Is lucid dream synonymous with soul travel??

Michael547:

Ok.....do you lie or you are filled with truth?

What does filled with truth mean??

Michael547:

So the bible is lying here right?

Lol... What is so special about the bible that it can't lie? You people sef.

lawbabs:


That scripture is higher than your mind can carry. It is by mercy you are saved for no one can come to God except God draws him to himself. That was why even though we were many friends who were preached to but only I submitted to the Lordship of Christ at the very time I gave my life to Christ. Am I better than them? No! Why did I make the choice, and those friends didn't? Mercy found me because God drew me.

It is only when you have been drawn to Christ that you now have the capacity to obey God.

Firstly, your God made these people inherit sin they didn't commit (which is totally unfair).

Secondly, he remedied the situation through human sacrifice of an innocent person. So those who believed in this human sacrifice will be saved.

Thirdly, it turns out that nobody can even believe in this human sacrifice without the "mercy" of this god. That is, he chooses who he wants to believe and leave the rest (according to the bolded).

All these business just reek of injustice of the highest order all through which makes one doubt the sanity of the adherents of this doctrine.

Omooba77:
What does Heaven Look like?

Forget what religions teach on this subject, they know not what they say. Accurate information on the subject has been provided us through the phenomenon of Mediumship.

A good book to start with is "Life in the World Unseen which can be downloaded here

https://new-birth.net/media/cms_page_media/220/Life_in_the_World_Unseen.pdf

Read the book and decide for yourself whether it doesn't make far more sense than what religions will have up believe.

There were little affairs, and I suppose, in their time and day they were considered big affairs, where peoples were at war - but now you think nothing of dropping 'a bomb' as you call it and wiping out thousands of people at the same time. It really seems to me that evil has become even more powerful on a vaster scale.


And yet you look upon yourselves as civilised human beings, and some of you look upon yourselves as Christians following the Christ. Others have their religious beliefs, equally sincere, possibly, no doubt.

But, it seems to me, that you're living in an age, in a time, in a world which has gone backwards rather than forwards.

And, I think, until you start thinking more deeply about the things that really matter; the things of the spirit and of the mind, and allow these things to take precedence and become uppermost, paramount importance in your lives...

The whole world is materialistic in its acrimonious approach - even those who profess to be religious. Most of them, so it seems to me, are acting and thinking in a hypocritical kind of way.

As a matter of fact I, the more I see of your world, the less I like it. And I certainly wouldn’t want to come back there, and I must say that if I thought that I could be of any real help or service in coming, I would.

But frankly, I can’t see what good I can do. I don’t really think that others on this side, whatever their intention of doing good, no matter how strong it may be, that they can hope to achieve very much.

Because even those who profess to know about this subject seem to me to be very little further advanced than the rest - if, in some senses, less far advanced. Indeed, their responsibilities are greater, but it doesn’t seem to me that they do very much or achieve very much.

I find it appalling that where there are people who have this knowledge of survival, of communication... uh, that you don’t get the spiritual and mental advancement that one would have expected.


One, therefore, can only assume that, in many instances, the contacts and links that are made are made with souls on a very similar vibration and condition to you Earth people yourselves. Of course, there are exceptions no doubt, but it does seem to me a tragedy, that if you have this opportunity of communication that you don’t make more good use of it.

It seems to me that you are achieving very little and therefore I don't really see what good you can hope to achieve by it - until at least more people understand and accept it and do something about it. It’s no good saying, 'oh yes, I get into touch with this or that person, and we have conversations and its very wonderful, and we know its true about life after death.'That will come quick enough, you'll die quick enough and find out for yourselves.

Unless you do something about it while you’re there and you really put your back into it and really get down to doing something of a spiritual nature, in such a material world as yours, all the effort seems to be pointless and in vain.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to come back regularly. I can't see there is any good or advantage in it for anyone. It certainly doesn’t seem to have made very much difference. The world seems to be worse than when I left it.


I can’t stay long. I’m sorry.

And now I’ve become so immersed in music that, um... perhaps that accounts, or one of the reasons why I’ve never been drawn back to Earth and that I am so happy in my life here and music in particular, that I do not feel the need or the urge to come back.

And I am sure there must be thousands, millions like me. And I am sure that, perhaps for some it is a good thing to return.



There are those who have, perhaps, specific, special work to do who are probably in themselves the right people for coming back to communicate, but I never have felt the urge. I wouldn’t like one to think that I’m so self-centred.

I wouldn’t like one to think that I was selfish, but I think there are people whose task it is to come back to communicate, to do some special work, perhaps for humanity. And there are others who, perhaps in their own way, do something of real consequence in their own environment.

Of course I do know that, although I’ve not been in the habit of coming back to Earth, I do know that my efforts in music have been of some help to souls, when we have gone into other planes and um, give... given to them our music, and I am sure it has been a great encouragement and a great help to them to raise themselves out of, sometimes, the darkness in which they find themselves.

There are many, many different places. I wouldn’t like you to think - as no doubt so many people think - that the Earth is the only world.

I think it is very wrong and very, shall we say, bumptious for people to assume that theirs is the only world. Yours is only one of many worlds, and there are many different stratas of intelligence and beings.

In fact, one might say that, to some extent, the Earth is one of the lesser progressed worlds. There are many worlds and... um, the Earth world is, in comparison to some, very backward.

Indeed, I would have thought that was very obvious to anyone with any intelligence - when you consider the age of your world and the generations of peoples that have inhabited it, that you are still, at this stage in your evolution, still talking and thinking about war.

You are still, indeed, making war. You have civil war. You have all sorts of diseases brought about by man’s foolishness and ignorance of stupidity. Indeed, I would go as far as to say that the Earth world is perhaps one of the most un-progressed worlds in the atmosphere, in the system, the solar system.


I don’t think people realise how little progress, in some respects, has been made. Though you’ve had great scientific progress, at the same time - although science may have benefited in some senses - it certainly hasn’t brought the world together in mind and in spirit.

It may have brought you closer together materially, but that’s not, in itself, necessarily such a good thing. If it were to combine the spiritual and the mental and the well-being of humanity, then that would be a different matter.


But when I see, as I have seen just recently into your world, the appalling mental conditions, the terrible attitude of mind of human beings, one towards the other, and how irrational you all are and how self-centred you are and how the whole world seems to be full of hatred and intolerance - it hasn’t learned hardly anything at all.

You may flatter yourselves that you’ve progressed in some respects, but actually in some respects its worse than it’s been for centuries.

And here I seemed to, quite naturally, take up again my music, and I suppose it shouldn't have been to my surprise, but my father encouraged it and was delighted when I started again to seriously take an interest in music.

And, on one occasion, quite early on in my being here, he said, 'Well would you like to go to a concert?' I was highly delighted, but at the same time, surprised that he should suggest such a thing because he had little or no time for the arts.

He was very much towards business and never had any time for music and arts, in particular. But I said, 'Yes, of course, I would.' But I was a bit puzzled. He said, 'Oh well, we will go.'

So, I was taken to my first concert in a vast, vast building. Oh, so vast, that I thought as I entered, not only how magnificent and beautiful it was, but at the same time, I couldn't help thinking to myself the vastness of this place. Surely if one sat in some parts of this place, you wouldn't hear very much.

But I was amazed and surprised at the acoustic properties and the clear-cut sound, and a vast orchestra of what appeared to be, to me at least though it was impossible to count, but several hundred musicians - and many of the instruments which they had were completely unfamiliar to me.


And there were several pianos, not just one, as one would perhaps expect in a concert, perhaps two, one would have thought, but here there seemed to be at least twenty pianos. Goodness knows how many violins. Indeed it was the vastest orchestra I'd ever seen, and the sound was... well, beyond description.


But the extraordinary thing was, behind this great orchestra was what appeared to be a large wall, expanse of wall, which had the appearance of being made of some sort of substance which seemed to give off all kind of hue in colouring.

It was extraordinary, it seemed to scintillate, and the whole of this background seemed to change according to the music. Sometimes it would be suffused with the palest of colours, and occasionally there would be flashes of brilliant reds, and blues, and greens and colours, indeed, some of which I couldn't even begin to describe.

And it seemed as if all this colour had some connection with the music, according to the passage of the music that was being played, so this seemed to act as a... in such a way, as to depict in colour the scene or idea of the music.


And yet... after this, of course, I went to many such concerts, and since then I have met many musicians, and I’ve always, as I've said, been interested in music and I have met many great musicians and composers.

And yet I couldn't really say that either my father, or for that matter, myself, were particularly over-generous people. We were sensible, we helped people it's true and we were particularly good to our workpeople.

But evidently, from what I gathered, that as you live, to some extent, that must and does affect your way of life over here and what reception you have. So, evidently, we couldn't have been so bad. We'd made for ourselves some preparation, without our even realising it!

My father was very orthodox. I was not an orthodox man as far as religion was concerned, but my father was strictly orthodox. But of course, I soon gathered that this orthodox outlook of religion had changed very much and he was no longer thinking on the old lines.

And it seems to me that I lived in a very natural, happy way for a time with my people and I must say that, in many respects, our life was very like it had been in my youth - early years on Earth. The only thing that I began to realise was that one seemed to have no need for food nor drink.


At first this puzzled me. I thought, I couldn't understand why I didn't have this desire. It was a natural thing, as far as my Earth life was concerned. Indeed, I was very fond of food until my illness made it impossible to eat a great deal.

And, um, the idea of being fit and well and yet having no longer the desire for food and drink seemed in a sense unnatural.


And for that matter, I never saw anything in the way of food, although there were times when fruit was available. Whether this was, in some sort of way, a thought - and I think possibly it must have been - there were times when possibly one desired it or felt the desire for it and there it was. But very seldom did one eat fruit or eat anything or desire to drink anything.


The thing that interested and appealed to me most in those early formative years - if I can so use them over here - was the desire to continue studies which my father had stopped.

When I was quite young I had shown a tendency towards music, and my mother encouraged me in this, and for about two to three years I was allowed to have lessons.


But I think my father began to feel that this was becoming too important in my life and I was sent away to a school and music was dropped completely. And I’d always sort of, in my later years, regretted it.

Because I was a great one for going to the opera. I hardly ever missed a season at Covent Garden and many recitals that I used to go, the great musicians of my day. Indeed, whatever time I could spare I would give to music.

And I could see, of course, that it evidently was a replica. Although to me it seemed identical, I thought it was the house, but I knew that it couldn't be.

And he said, 'Let us go in and see the others'.

And I said, 'Others? What others?'

And he said, 'Oh, Mother and Simon.'

Simon was a young brother, by the way, who passed in infancy and when he said 'Simon', it didn't mean a thing to me.

I said, 'Simon, Simon, who the deuce is Simon?'

He said, 'Simon is your brother. Don't you remember the baby brother who died when you were about three or four years old?'

I said, 'Simon?'

I didn't remember any of this.


Anyway we went into the old house. It was exactly the same. Everything about it was the same; the same furniture, the same statues, the same mantelshelf. Everything was identical in the drawing room; the piano was there and I could see, as it were, as if I were going back more than 50 years - all perfectly reproduced.


And there was my mother, looking so young, so very young, and I hardly realised at first that it was she. But it was she, but as she was when my mother and father, presumably, first met. And there was a tall young fellow. I should think he looked about seventeen, eighteen. It turned out to be this brother who died in infancy. Puzzling.



And then I remember asking my people, I said,

'Well how is it that you have this house? How did it come about?'

I said, 'I accept the fact that you say I am dead and I realise something tremendous has happened, but I don't understand how it is that one should have one's old home reproduced. Who makes all this furniture? Who makes all the carpets and things and how does all this come about?'

And my father said, 'Well, this is something which is not easy to explain, but this is something which we you earned - which we have earned.'

And I thought to myself, 'well I don't know that I've earned anything in particular.'



And, uh, I'm remembering my father; although he was in many respects, a good man, at the same time he was a very strict man; a man, I suppose, running a business, which...one had to be when on Earth. But he was honest and just and indeed, he was a remarkable man in many ways. But I couldn't see the justification for all this, which seemed so remarkable because it was so identical in everything.


My father said, 'Well of course, to some extent, one's conditions, one's surroundings, one's life here, if you like, is due, to a great extent, as to what you were yourself when on Earth; your attitude of mind to others, your efforts on behalf of others – and, to some extent, the way in which you yourself have given yourself to others.'

And as he was saying this I couldn't help but think, 'well there may be something in this if he says so.

Isaac Watson

Greene:

How did you actually find yourself Mr Watson? What conditions did you find yourself after your passing?


Watson:

Well I found myself over here, first thing I remember was my father coming to meet me. Funny thing was I remember 'waking up' - I suppose is the way you'd put it - it would appear to me to be (well, it was) a garden.



First of all I thought it was the garden of our old house. We had a magnificent garden. My father was a great gardener and very interested in that. This place was so like it. And I remember I was sitting on a seat and looking across the lawns to an ornamental lake, which my father had had built.


And I remember waking up and seeing my father coming towards me with his hands outstretched. First it didn't strike me as odd. I think I thought of it all in such a natural manner, as if it was the most natural thing.


I remember him sitting down beside me and congratulating me. Well this struck me as odd, why I should be congratulated. In fact, I couldn't think what I had done, what I had achieved. He wasn't a demonstrative man on Earth and there he was telling me how happy he was, that I'd come through and succeeded.


For a moment I didn't understand what he was referring to and then it suddenly dawned on me, that this was all an unnatural situation. What was I doing on this seat in this particular place - which was really of some forty years previously, possibly more, in my youth; my early years, my formative years?


We often went to the country during the summer months when business permitted - and in the winter too. And it was just as if I had come down for a week or two in the country to my father's place.


And it struck me as being so strange, because it was as if I could remember at that particular moment, that I had been much older, and that I was lying on a bed and that I was, and had been for many months, suffering a great deal with my lungs and chest, having great difficulty with breathing.


But here I was, as natural... and breathing as easily as I had done in the old days.
And my father said, 'you know, you're now out of it all.' And it began to dawn on me that this was an unreal situation.


But I... what he meant was, that I was out of the old life and I couldn't help thinking to myself, 'well I can't be dead.' And yet everything seems to imply that some big change has taken place, because this is all so familiar and yet, it was forty... fifty years ago in my life.


Then I thought to myself, 'well how could it be, this place?' If it's...if it's a new life that I'm in, if this is true, then I don't see how my father's property can be over on this side of life.'

It was all bewildering.

And he was saying to me, 'of course you know that we have still got the old house'.

And I thought this was so strange. He said, 'you know this is an exact replica.'

I said, 'What do you mean an exact... exact replica?'

He said, 'Of the old home.'

Still relevant

Steep:
Because when christ died everyone who trusted in christ also died in him, so yes he reaped by christ dieing for him.

Which kind wuru-wuru reaping be that

The law of sowing and reaping is not the only law.

So we should ignore the verse abi??

Steep:

Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Anyone who believed in Jesus christ has sowed to the Spirit and hence reaps eternal life.

But he has sowed to the flesh by killing millions of Jews prior to his repentance, why doesn't he reap corruption has the verse says??

CaptainJune:


IF HE TRUELY REPENTED he would have been forgiven. In the Bible, there was a king known as Manasseh. He did evil in the sight of God. He was known to have sawed the prophet Isaiah in half. He was captured and taken to captivity according to the prophecy of Isaiah. In his captivity, he repented of his sins and was forgiven by God.

Meaning, he would not reap what he sowed, hence, God has been mocked.

Galatians 6:7: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

MaxInDHouse:


That's the time to go back to the assignment given to the first couple:

“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

Pick the assignment one after another!
Be fruitful: the planet needs to be filled with happy couples each having their own garden and home.
Subdue the earth: all the potentials of the planet we will continue to unravel what man has found like electricity, telecommunication and the rest will be like a half out of billions of discoveries we will make as a global family! Ecclesiastes 3:11
Have in subjection all the animals: we will have all other creatures as pets that we can send on errands and play with them both the ones that are wild now and domesticated ones! Isaiah 11:6-7; 65:25;

Will Jesus live here with you??

MaxInDHouse:

Do you think Gandhi who said Christians shouldn't be warriors and politicians killing innocent people can treat JWs who doesn't engage in politics and military services badly?


In Paradise there's no religion that could stand apart from JWs so after 100 years of listening to JWs whoever refuses to accept will die as a youth because by then God would have removed sickness and oldage! Isaiah 65:20


Children are resurrected because they've been taught God's righteousness or their parents are there in Paradise yearning to see them so if a child has no relatives in Paradise and never grew up to the stage where he or she could make use of conscience such ones have no business with Paradise.


Death is the wages of sin so if someone has sown something tangible he will be remembered and if someone can't sow anything good due to lack of conscience or without conscience he is also a waste product having no business with Paradise!

Oda, let's move on.
So you guys have been resurrected, what will you be doing for eternity?

MaxInDHouse:


As long as he or she has broken the rule:

"You must not kill"

Nobody cares about the number what comes to mind is whether it happened by mistake or it's a deliberate act once it's found out to be a deliberate act he or she will be sentenced to death.
That's exactly the same thing God does.
The only difference between man's judgement and God's is that there is going to be a remedy to bring back those innocent people killed but man only removes the killer to stop him from going further!

People actually care, if there is a way to kill the killer a million times also people will, but there is no way so they kill him once.

MaxInDHouse:



It depends on their response to the visit of JWs.
Whoever rejects our visit at their homes and never thought about why these people kept coming but decided to treat us like trash has been judged already because such a person has rendered his or her conscience dead. Matthew 10:11-15

Is the person's conscience dead because he didn't accept your teachings or because he treated you like trash??
Let's assume you folks preached to Gandhi when he was alive but he didn't accept your teachings, does that mean his conscience is dead??

Gandhi has a lot of chances because in his time he realized that the religionists claiming Christians doesn't have anything doing that relates to what Christ taught or stand for.
So many like him will be resurrected when only JWs are on this planet and by then we will teach them what Jesus taught when there is no distractions like what we have today from countless religions.

What if they still doesn't want to join you folks??

God can never be kicked!
To illustrate imagine a teacher who wants to teach billions of students few were very attentive while billions chose to do whatever pleases them and by the time of assessment the few were able to perform excellently due to being attentive to what the teacher taught them.
Please with those few WITNESSES performing up to expectation is the teacher mocked?

I read you reply once (correct me if I'm wrong) where you said babies born to other groups apart from JW are waste products and will not be resurrected.
If babies and people like Hitler can meet the same fate (not being resurrected) then, justice as not been served, Hitler and Co didn't reap what they sowed, hence, God has been mocked.

Galatians 6:7 : "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

MaxInDHouse:

Of course it won't make sense to you since you don't believe that it's one couple that became billions of people today. From the viewpoint of faithful people breaking an egg is equal to killing a full grown cock and also stopping the family of millions of chickens so it makes a lot of sense to FAITHFUL people who believe the Bible!

Even going by this logic, it doesn't make sense.
Mr A killed one person, it was accounted that he killed a billion people (1,000,000,000)because of the potential people that could come from the person killed.

If Mr B. killed a million people, it should be accounted that he killed a million multiplied by a billion people (1,000,000,000,000,000).

You see, killing a person and killing a million is still not the same thing.

MaxInDHouse:

From God's standpoint one person is equal to a billion, remember Adam and Eve gave birth to the billions we have on this planet today so whether one or a million lives is the same thing from God's standpoint anyone who kills a person killed Adam!

Still doesn't make sense, you can't compare the misery caused by killing one person to the misery that will result from killing millions of people, you just can't, so they can't be equal.

According to God's word there are two types of people that will benefit from the resurrection hope:
[1] Those who has been declared righteous by God they will be resurrected as RIGHTEOUS ones.
[2] People who don't know the righteousness of God but lived by conscience {Romans 2:15} God won't judge them by his own standard but by their own conscience so they will be resurrected as UNRIGHTEOUS since they don't know the righteousness of God! Act 24:15

As for people who don't know righteousness of God and don't give a damn about conscience they will not be remembered at all! Psalms 9:17

Now, I understand, you(JW) belong to the first group, "the resurrected righteous". Do you think other groups apart from JW can belong to this group?

Do people like Gandi and mother Teresa belong to the second group? And do this second group forever remain the resurrected unrighteous?? or is there a way to upgrade their status to the righteous ones.

Hitler, Abacha etc belong to the third group "the unresurrected unrighteous" abi??
But I still belief they got away without reaping what they sowed. God has been mocked

CaptainJune:


Like you quoted, God is not mocked. A person reaps what they sow. If a rapist is caught but truly repents of his actions during the trial, it doesn't mean the rapist is not guilty before the law. He will spend the time allowed by the law in prison. He will suffer the consequences of his actions.

However, since he has repented his soul is set free from condemnation before God and has escaped from the wrath of God to come as long as he maintains his faith to the end. This is the purpose of Christ coming to the world to die for the sins of mankind...to save them from eternity of separation from God in hell fire, and to bring them to eternity with Him and the Father in heaven. This is the point of accepting Jesus.

Let's assume Hitler truely repented of his actions on his deathbed and accepted Jesus. What will happen to him after death.

CaptainJune:


That verse didn't imply that accepting Jesus as one's Lord and Saviour absolves a wrongdoer of the consequences of their actions.

If accepting Jesus doesn't absolves the wrongdoer of the consequences of his actions, then accepting Jesus doesn't cleanse sin, what's the point of accepting Jesus then??

CaptainJune:
Justlove91, you cannot choose some things in the Bible that agree with your beliefs while you toss the remainder aside.

Yes I can and just did

You do not believe in the Lordship of Jesus Christ, but you accept His teaching to love everyone. It doesn't work that way.

I don't have to believe his lordship before I can accept his message of love, there are some Buddha's teachings I accept even though I'm not a Buddhist, separate the message from the messenger.

To the question you asked, it means you live with the consequences of your actions. A person cannot avert or escape the implications or results of his actions and decisions, good or bad. God is not mocked because it is a natural and spiritual law devoid of manipulation by man or spirit.

What has this got to do with anything?

Everything!! Because by smuggling in Jesus as your savior, you're trying to escape the consequences of your actions thereby contradicting the above verse.

MaxInDHouse:


Exodus 20:13

The above verse never mentioned numbers its killing so one or millions is what a lay man sees while God sees a person as Adam who is capable of becoming father to billions so whether the killer killed one or billions it's the same thing from God's standpoint.

@bolded
Where is the justice in that??

You didn't answer my first question, will all the Jews killed my Hitler be resurrected even though they're not JW??

CaptainJune:


I thought you said the Bible doesn't make sense to you. Why are you quoting it?

Some parts make sense to me, example is that verse another one is where Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself.

Now, explain the verse.

MaxInDHouse:


This is not the real life God purposed for mankind {1Timothy 6:19} it's everlasting life in Paradise without sickness or suffering so all the people killed by evildoers will be resurrected it's then they will enjoy life to the fullest but the unrepentant killers like Hitler will not be remembered that time {Psalms 9:17} the Bible says the wages of sin is death {Romans 6:23} the death of an unrepentant sinner is permanent while that of a repentant sinner is reversible.

That's what reaping what we sow meant!

So a person killed by an evil doer will be resurrected even if the person is not a JW, meaning all the Jews killed by Hitler will resurrected.

Hitler as reaped what he sowed by remaining dead for ever??
So Hitler that killed millions of people and another sinner that killed only one person both remained dead forever. Why is it that they both reaped the same thing when they didn't sow the same thing??

MaxInDHouse:

OK nah!

Adolf Hitler killed millions of Jews causing untold misery, he eventually killed himself.
According to your belief as JW, he will remain dead for eternity. How do you reconcile this belief with this verse

Galatians 6:7: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

How has he reaped what he sowed?

CaptainJune:


I hope the Lord opens your eyes to see the truth before it is too late.

Please explain this verse

Galatians 6:7 reads: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows"

CaptainJune:


There is only one Way, Jesus. Rejecting His blood sacrifice to redeem you from everlasting misery is folly beyond solution.

That's a lie from the pit of Hell