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1. Mercy said no - Cece Winans.
2. Boundless love - Women of Faith.
3. Amazing Grace.
4. He still loves me - Fighting temptations.
5. Leap of Faith - R. Kelly

The more you campaign against videos like these the more likely people are to watch it. So its better to just ignore it

Lesson No. 6: Time is everything!

If you do you're stingy, if you don't you're not romantic

anulaxad:
Right, I am not a tribalist bigot so I will not respond to this in the way you are looking for.
The ijebus of Egba are not ethnic minorities their just a sub groups, we all speak one language which is Yoruba, we are not divided among so many ethnic minorities or groups like they are in the south-east or the north we belong to one ethnic group.

Your ranting is absolute nonsense. People who live all the way from the east side of Ogun such as my aunties have to Benin(the country) and still understand their Yoruba. Stop deceiving yourself it is called pathetic fallacy, I don't know what group you belong to but ignorance is eating you up don't comment on stuff you clearly don't understand. Thank you.

I was actually happy to see your opening statement of not being a tribalist/bigot, and was prepared to engage you in an illuminating discussion (illuminating for both of us, that is). But as soon as I insults started flying in, I had to accept the fact that its probably not worth it...

anulaxad:
It clearly is. It may have sub groups such as the ijebus e.g but they are all one ethnic group. That indeed is a very positive thing indeed. It's the main reason why yorubas don't clash or have tiny ethnic battles e.g. Yorubaland goes as far as togo.

I'm telling you yorubas are one tribe, the south west is not like the south east or the north which is divided by way to many ethnic minorities, it's straight up simple in the southwest.

The irony of this is that the main reason why Yorubas tend to be so united is because of the historic Benin empire yet modern day Benin(edo state) have their own dialect and many will not consider them proper Yoruba.

You know why they're not one tribe? Apart from the obvious fact that there are many sub-ethnic groups ( some may choose to call them clans) like the Egbas & Ijebus as you have mentioned, the yorubas are the most disjointed, politically disunited sets of people in the country. The only common denominator is the language, which if you listen carefully, you'll still see the difference.
The Benins you mentioned have just one Oba, the Oba of Benin. All other traditional rulers are subject to the Oba. They speak with one voice. That, my friend, is unity. That is unity. How many Obas are there among the yorubas? In yorubaland there's a king at every corner of every street - Oba of Lagos, Oni of Ife, Alaafin of Oyo, Oba of Ilora.... Not to talk of the silent strife among themselves. The average yoruba man does not want his brother to succeed or be better than him. While trying to move forward, he's making sure at the same time that his brother lags behind. This is why the Yorubas never has a consensus candidate for any election, why they have never had a leader since Chief Awolowo.

Yoruba is not one tribe

patrick89:
another yoruba propaganda, why are you guys cowards! All the appointments from, efcc,inec, and all the post occupied by northerners and you guys are keeping quiet! I laugh you guys are no longer spewing trash, you are waiting for the igbos to criticise buhari, so that igbos wil be the escape goat, just like what happens in 1966, cowards you are cowards you will remain!

At times I look at comments on Nairaland and I feel like weeping for this country. It shames me how Nigerians cannot hold an intellectual conversation without resorting to aggressive speech or outright abuse. Nobody makes a meaningful contribution to the discussion at hand, what you see instead is insults, ethnic bigotry, and the most childish of all - the so called space booking!

Heard these once, but just wondering how true most of them are. As in, what's the source?

Its a unanimous decision. INTROVERT it is!

I'll go & finish mine in october

Where are these plots located?

Suicide mode

Never. They belong to everybody and belong to nobody.

Nonsense! You don't need six pack, you need a six figure income!

And if you meet them in bed, just take off your clothes and join them.

Its sad really. My neighbour's 6yr old son resumes by 7.30am closes by 3pm, stays back for lessons till 6pm. Even on saturdays he leaves by 9am and returns around 4pm. I'm like wtf, is he preparing for JAMB or what? He's usually so exhausted he falls asleep as soon as he gets home.

How can you say no to that (those) ?!

dharay88:

lol

Why would I want to read more of this?

At 82 & 85yrs of age when they should be making peace with their God in a last-grasp attempt at making heaven. Tell me again about how wisdom comes with age?

A delicious meal takes time to prepare

Now that the issue of gay marriages seem to have come to stay, and would most likely be legalised soon in Nigeria soon (because we're no different from Xerox machines - chronic copy cats), I have many questions on my mind that I can't seem to find the answer to:

1. Do I have the right to refuse a gay couple tenancy in my house for my children's sake?


2. What if they come to meet me to bake their wedding cake, can i refuse as a christian baker without being seen as discriminating?


3. Obviously as a pastor I have to allow everyone into the house of God, but what if they want to rent the church auditorium for his wedding, can I refuse then?


4. How do I explain to my 6yr old son that the mother of his friend from across the street is a man?


PS:
1. I'm not against gays, but I'm a Christian
2. Feel free to add your own questions

modhream:
Did you say David was lightly punished?.Someone who the sword never left his household for many generations,as prophesied by Nathan?.Who had many sons killed in civil conflicts while he yet lived?.Thank God you said you're no expert on the Bible otherwise we would have turned this thread to Bible study.
And no,the only edge the NT apostles had over the prophets of old was the dispensation of grace we still enjoy today.

But then we digress sir. This thread was never about murderers, adulterers or polygamists.

El - Rufai is one of the few reasons I believe this Nation can be great again

modhream:
1.That is highly debatable.Your initial position tho,was that polygamy was prohibited by the Bible,an untruth since the only man by whom God swear/swore in the Bible,David,was polygamous n nothing was found wrong with it,but for his adultery.
3.Don't cherrypick,my friend.Start from verse 18 till end.Also,Romans 2:1-2 has very interesting thing to say about those who judge.Btw,Leviticus 18 has only one verse (22) against homosexuality,not verses.Same as chapter 20(13),be more conversant with the Bible before you quote it.
Our back n forth is academic,anyway

I am not an expert on the Bible. Most of my research on homo.sexuality happened to have led me to the issue of polygamy, hence my mentioning the topic. However, if you actually take time to REFLECT concerning many of the Bible characters, you can't help but notice that the great men (and women) of God in the old testament operated by a different set of rules from those in the new testament. I say this because you mentioned David. David was a man who held a special place in God's heart, a lot of his sins were overlooked or lightly punished, for example the murder of Uriah and subsequent adultery with his wife was only punished by the death of the resulting child. What was the OT punishment for adultery? Is it d death of the resulting child, or the death of both man & woman involved (lev 20:10)?
Same thing happened with another mighty man of God, Samson, who still had enough annointing of God to uproot the city gates even though he was just coming from a prostitutes!
Did you ever hear of any man of God in the NT who had the guts to look a prostitute twice, not to talk of taking another's wife? They were all firebrands, they operated by higher standards. That's why I FEEL the OT's not the best resource on polygamy when it comes to Christianity. Not to mention the obvious fact - None of those in the Old Testament were "Christians"!

modhream:
I'm not seeing any prohibition there,but exhortations to then church leadership.And no,those weren't laws too.
Oh,if OT no longer apply to Christians,why do most Nigerian church-goers run to it then to back their positions,be it on tithing,homosexuality and the like?.I'm assuming,for the sake of an argument,your personal view of homosexuality as a sin derives from Leviticus 18 & 20.

You're totally right:
1. They're all exhortations, and but not ones we should ignore.
2. I said i chose not to quote OT just to avoid argument not that I believe they're no longer relevant
3. Yes, the verses against homosexuality were mostly from Lev 18, but Romans 1:26-27 was also pretty convincing

tucky200:
the government is also allowed to judge them....these guys cannot give birth..that's the point

How about heterosexual marriages where there are no children either due to mutual agreement not to have children, or due to infertility? Should the couples be arrested?

modhream:
On a sidenote @OP,where did the Bible prohibit marrying two wives?.

Quoting from the New Testament only because a lot of people now think the old testament no longer applies to us as Christians (not entirely true anyway);

Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his WIFE and they TWO shall be one flesh.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of ONE WIFE, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(one might argue here that this one is for the elders of the church - pastors, bishops, deacons etc, but should there actually be one law for the elders and another for the 'floor members'? )

Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of ONE WIFE, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

But then as you say, that's just on a sidenote.

firstEVA:
They need condemnation as well.

Harsh

adegwurulez:
I was telling someone the same thing the other day. We dont speak out for fear of being labeled 'gays'. Same sex marriage is outrightly disgusting and morally wrong, but that is just my personal conviction, i can't and MUSN'T force it on another person lest i become like the bokoharams. Looking at it critically, we condemned sharia and boko haram for trying to impose their beliefs on others and yet we go through the back channel to do the same, how convenient. Yes! the same way you believe its wrong for a man to marry another man is the same way a muslim feel it is wrong for ladies to go out without properly covering their body. Are we now saying it is proper to jail anybody not properly dressed?

Spot on! At the end of the day, all it boils down to is personal convictions

This piece is not about trying to prove or disprove wether homo.se.xuality is a sin. The Bible makes it explicitly clear that it is is a sin. I am a Christian, therefore I believe its a sin also according to the Bible. QED.
What I'm really concerned about is, is it RIGHT to judge another person based on my own beliefs, which he may not be in support of? If a man is atheist, for example, will it be right for me to force him to desist from sex before marriage, or that marrying two wives is prohibited because my Bible forbids it?
My opinion is, if a man feels happy being with another man, why should we stop him? I mean, is Linda actually hurting anyone by chosing to live the rest of her life with Cynthia? These people are not threats to the society in any way, and should be allowed to live their lives in peace.
If we are not okay with seeing them like that, then we should pray for them instead, accept them into our midst, and show them as much love as possible. The Bible says love conquers all, who knows, some might change and become Christians also, but until then, let them be.