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BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 5:00pm On Oct 12, 2011
segunjowo:
Please can i start this pure water biz with 500k start up? if yes, kindly mail me some guides on the way forward. if not, pls which other biz can i start with this amount? I will appreciate a partner interested in this biz, if he/she stays around Isolo/Okota axis of lagos. thanks. segunjowo2006@yahoo.com.
ofcourse, why not.it depends on how desirous you are.
you can start as a distributor or you can lease a factory.you look for factories that are ready to throw in the towel.i believe these options will solve your need of being a CEO.
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 7:21pm On Oct 05, 2011
[quote author=st. mera link=topic=418542.msg9181740#msg9181740 date=1316505812]Madam L , Karbaka and the Huz

as a new man in the pure water biz i am having some challenges aspa customer demand
ATWAP approved price for my locality/zone is N80 per bag but some big customers with capability of buying
up to 300bags /month are asking for N60/bag. this is because some producers from neighboring ATWAP Zones were prices per bag are less (N60)
are crossing over to our zone to sell at N60.

my challenge is that, this customers are willing to patronize me if and only if i sell at N60per bag
but then i have ATWAP to face thereafter. i really don't want to be mischievous.

Huz which marketing strategy shud i deploy so that no one will get hurt.

should i want to sell at N60per bag do you think i can make good profit[/quote]where is your location?
There are many factors to consider if you are to drop price namely proximity,quantity, capacity and cash.


proximity- the distance between your factory and the market.the closer the BETTER.
Quantity-how many will the customer buy,the more the better.
capacity-how many can your truck carry,the more the better,the lesser fuel consumed.
cash- if cash the better because it will increase and fasten your turnover.

Finally,for me i think 300bag/month is a poor deal.
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 6:58pm On Oct 05, 2011
DEBOLABI:
please look at this design,

will nafdac approve this structure.

karbaka and Madam L, please respond urgent
A simple and interesting plan ,sure could be approved BUT i think
1, the toilet has to be moved.
2, that exit in production room leads to where? am afraid you have to close it for your own good.
3, i did not see space for office.why?
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 6:50pm On Oct 05, 2011
tahbahalif:
Please, is there anybody with viable knowledge of the associated risks?

@kabarka, i think it would be helpful, if you can attach the cost and list of equipments required

Thanks
people obtain this request when they drop their email address.
PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 6:47pm On Oct 05, 2011
available
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 11:37am On Sep 20, 2011
[quote author=st. mera link=topic=418542.msg9144964#msg9144964 date=1316001911]i am  new to this site but have been able to go thru all the trend on the water biz as posted by kabarka, madam L and others.
i want to sincerely thank all especially kabarka and madam L for their great contribution and open mindedness.

God is using this site/trend to create JOB and Wealth for Nigerians + others

i have a pure water factory  which started sales on 1st Sept 2011 with the following facilities on ground

2.  trucks for delivery
1.  sealing machine.

daily  sales looks good for now as a beginner but my concern is that the sealing machine horizontal  heater meter is always having fault weekly thereby resulting
to leakage and improper sealing. moreso, the technician leaves far away from my factory and sometimes difficult to get hold of him to fix the problem
this cud possibly leads to Non productive time. HUZ how do i handle this concern.[/quote]@st.mera
Yes that can really waste your time as a beginner.
But there is nothing much in handling that yourself,when you manage to get someone that will fix the problem,pay close attension to what the person is doing,e.g loosing of nuts at both ends of the two rods,how the teflon is attached with abro tape to the rod,how to change positions of the teflon to maximize the surfaces.

it does'nt worth it to stop production because of this though it can be troublesome sometimes but the earlier you try the better control you have there.

if your operator cant handle this,do not depend on him when the repairer comes.go there and watch so that when such thing repeats,you can direct them on what to do.

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT PAYS,your WORKERS CARE ONLY ABOUT THEIR SALARY.
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 11:10am On Sep 20, 2011
hello people, am sorry for my absence from the thread,it was due to some responsibilities:the evidence of which is shown below.i have a big task of making that report to come to be.

PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 8:06pm On Aug 27, 2011
These and a lot more are available now for serious buyers

BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 7:11pm On Aug 10, 2011
cejo:
I heard 4rm a friend on monday/Tuesday 26th in network news that a ban has been placed on satchet pure water production and distribution saying that it is causing environmental challenge.Pls is this information true do we have any other person who heard similar thing on the news.
There is a story like that on the 26th july and August 3rd 2011.
But before i give you the FULL story,Click below to know how nigerians feel about it

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-657308.64.html
Nigerians know the TRUTH,Please propagate the truth.

YOU CAN GO TO GOOGLE.
JUST TYPE :BANNING PURE WATER IN NIGERIA
THEN CLICK SEARCH.

YOU WILL SEE TOPICS LIKE
1,Sachet Water Ban Underway.
2,Packaged Water-NOA Seeks Ban Of Polythene


READ AND UNDERSTAND THE STORY IS NOT AS IT SOUNDS

@cejo,
You are in port-harcourt.
come to federal Secretariat,near rumuola
come to the conference hall
second tuesday next month(every month) for ATWAP meeting.
A report that will launch us to #100 per bag will be shared.
it was submitted to the assembly yesterday.
PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 7:45pm On Aug 04, 2011
sorry NOT AVAILABLE ANY MORE.

BusinessRe: Should Pure Water Be Banned? by kabarka(m): 6:44pm On Jul 26, 2011
Laalamed:
Waste should be properly managed thru recycling.pure water satchet,nylon,plastic could be recycled.
That's what we are talking about.
BusinessRe: Should Pure Water Be Banned? by kabarka(m): 6:37pm On Jul 26, 2011
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BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 7:15pm On Jul 23, 2011
that's ok.
BusinessRe: Should Pure Water Be Banned? by kabarka(m): 7:20am On Jul 23, 2011
All pure water companies pay as a form of tax  to ministry of environment annually.They are given basket and sticker as evidence of payment.
Now because there's inadequate monitoring which has always been the problem with NIGERIA,polythene bags are all over the places.

Look into any blocked drainage system,what do you see? Only pure water sachet?
If pure water should be banned then other consumables like bread,biscuit etc shld follow.


if you want to know more about PURE WATER BUSINESS,click below
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-418542.0.html
BusinessRe: Should Pure Water Be Banned? by kabarka(m): 6:40pm On Jul 22, 2011
dubliu:
it can never be banned but there should be a law binding the buyer and the seller

the buyer must not litter the environment ( if a buyer is in bus or car there sholud be a waste basket to dump such a thing)
and the seller must be watchfull if he/she found any form of sachet pack around he/she is meant to make his environment clean.
This is what made the city of calabar,what it is today.
it is possible in any city in Nigeria if we believe.
if the right policies and it IMPLEMENTATION is diligently carried out.
BusinessRe: Should Pure Water Be Banned? by kabarka(m): 6:28pm On Jul 22, 2011
@ Natasha
nice work here.
The problem with sachet pure water littering cannot be solved by banning.
In Nigeria some people think of banning because we have just graduated from military to civilian.
Banning is a military tendency and it will never solve the problem of littering.
For me BANNING AND DESTRUCTION no matter how good intentioned CAN NEVER HELP OUR ECONOMY.

Having said that,the actual problem is waste management  and attitude of end users as can be confirm from this poll.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-418542.0.html
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 6:11pm On Jul 22, 2011
shawonlese:
@ madam L,

I'm not into the pure water biz, but i will appreciate information on where one can get nylon wrappers for Biscuits etc produced.
Thank you.
yes, you can get it from  GENA PLASTIC LIMITED, Port-harcourt.
give me a call.
PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 6:37pm On Jul 14, 2011
NOT available

BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 10:09am On Jul 12, 2011
madam L:
@kabarka. It's like I will move my operations to that your state, she na Rivers State? Price increase is needed everywhere but Lagos messed up its own and we are all regretting now.
you are welcome,madam .
So far you play by the rule.

We are still working on it.The committee will submit their recommendations few hours from now.
We see what happens.
Right now,price cutting is taking place-
real price -#80
popular price-#70
then #60

but please madam ,kindly tex me your number to 08063842418.We have things to talk about.
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 2:18pm On Jul 11, 2011
madam L:
where's everyone? Kabarka, anything new happening at your end?
Yes madam L,there is something new about to happen in my end.

As a matter of fact ATWAP in my state has decided to make one bag of pure water #100.

Am a member of 8 man committee set up to draft the Roadmap to follow.
It is part of things that keep me very busy.
I will need ideas from people that have sustained this in their state.
PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 8:23pm On Jul 08, 2011
here are the views of current scrap.
still available
This has been sold on 17-11-2011,it is no longer available.thanks

PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 9:00pm On Jul 07, 2011
Still available @ a lesser price.Current Pix to be posted soon.
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 9:29am On Jul 04, 2011
Actually it is aganist the law to produce while awaiting nafdac no.

Your final decision will depend on how serious nafdac officials are in your state.

In our own time,what people do is to put fake number while awaiting for their number But we didn't do that.
We left the space blank.
When customers asked us,we told them,we were undergoing registration,that our number will soon come out.
As a result of this constraint,we restricted our movement to a particular area where we won't be apprehended.But when the number came,we reached out with force.
BusinessRe: Starting A Business Without Capital by kabarka(m): 10:36am On Jul 01, 2011
@mekaoseka,
This is one of few BEST REPLY that i have come across on NL.
Thanx
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 8:59am On Jul 01, 2011
Congratulations @ HEAL
let me mention that HEAL is the person i refered to in my last post.Thanx 4 keeping to your word.

About staffing,
What madam L posted is the way it is.This is the standard staffing obtainable especially if you are financially balanced.It is what anybody with sound managerial skill will do naturally.
There is nothing wrong with it.But remember that as our factories are different so is our experiences in the business,for that i will give you OPTIONS to choose from.It is upto you to choose the one that best suit you at your level, at the moment.

PRODUCTION DEPT
As i said earlier,what madam L posted is perfectly okay,it is what every intelligent investor will do but look at this:-
As a starter,if you can get a packer who can operate,it means you employ 2 instead of considering 3.
Then 1 person that will take the packed bags to the finish product room

Secondly,assuming you are available.You can teach yourself for the mean time how to operate the machine.Start by knowing where and how to lubricate the parts,proceed to how to mount the rolls. Then how to change teflon.And control of vertical and horizontal temperature.
These will give you a lot of control in prod dept and save money too.No worker will be able to play pranks on you or hold you hostage. There is no big deal about automatic sealing machine,anybody can learn it.Why i stress you knowing a little about operation of this machine is because of control and power.This is good for anyone starting at your level.This is not oil company,minimize expenses as early as possible.


Marketing Dept

Option 1,
You can do this yourself if you can,with one person.That one person should be able to know,and relate with the customers so that if you pair him with a driver,your business goes on. it will give you absolute control in the market place for you know the customers one on one.

Option 2,
Shop for a competent driver and a motor boy.let them know the important of collaborative work.
Tell them to always come down together to drop the goods. make them work as a team.
Since you are new,you may not have a rush market but when your market increases,make motor boy 2 so that they be faster.make sure there is need for the second person to come in.

Option 3,
i call this the picking of brains and that is what Madam L described below.It does not come easy but if it comes your way grab it.


Payment; check the payment mode in your area first.then consider if any modification will give you edge
























to be continued
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 6:14pm On Jun 28, 2011
Somebody sent me this text dated 28 june 2011
@ 13.29.40 
Hi,they shld finish installatn of d componts 4 d pure water by end of this week.I have loads to share on nairaland ,
Thanks. Ed,


i hope he stays true to HIS WORDS.He bought the ebook on 16-03-2011
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 8:41am On Jun 21, 2011
@omoola007
Please,is this Fine for littering meant for consuming public or water producing factories?

Hope you've read the free info.
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 5:52pm On Jun 17, 2011
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omoola007:
And finally what are your thoughts on Market saturation. How many more producers can the Market take and will regulation become stricter so as to ban or limit sachets water business. E.g osun state and their new fine ,

Thanks
please tell us all that is happening in osun state b/c it is an integral part of nigeria.If it can happen in osun,it can happen anywhere in nigeria.So fill us in .

[color=#000099]know this,in a saturated market,only producers that knows the nitty gritty,the secret that makes money.
PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 2:06pm On Jun 15, 2011
What i mean is that i sent you an email with ''scrap vessel" in the subject area.
Check your inbox.
You can give me another email address.
PropertiesRe: A Scrap Ship(460,000T) For Sale by kabarka(op): 11:53pm On Jun 14, 2011
The subject reads : scrap vessel
BusinessRe: Pure Water Biz(Discuss) by kabarka(op): 2:44pm On Jun 12, 2011
@Am alone,
what is the capacity of the trucks?
How many trips do they normally go?

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