₦airaland Forum

Jim Ovia is not Igbo
Hubert Wigwe is Ikwerre

Obalufon:
Okay !! Da'to !! gan gan lo wu lo..""Ma dari kan""..Never used the world jew mind you .There is similarity between hebrew religion and yoruba religion if you want to learn you will ask question. but you are so daft , you are ibo man with Eze chima crusade on nairaland""..Awa tan bo gi bo pe gan ..we yield to the wisdom of AGBONMEREGUN ..i'm bona fide Yoruba man...

What a dummy

Mumu man

Similarities aren't causations especially in the realms of religion.

Who asked you if you were a Yoruba man or not. Questioning your own ethnicity all by your own sense of inferiority. Didirin

Obalufon:
Eze chima From Nri dey talk. i pity your miserable life you want to die young . There is power in
yoruba language. Ma' dari kan

Oden dato. Wan tan e, oun tan candle

Fake jew man

absoluteSuccess:
How does this explain your claim?

Since you need examples. I'll give you the foolproof ones like Latin, Native American languages, Etruscan, Ajawa etc.

Obalufon:
Royalty ?? Oro ma gbe e''.. you fucking maggot ibo boy ..

Ara fe san pa e iwo okrika jew jatijati yi

absoluteSuccess:
Give instance with real life experience. Your earlier position was absolute, I've called your attention to this and the afterthought should be thorough.

You won't give that privilege should you have the table

What a dummy

absoluteSuccess:
Kayfra:


Present day language to ancient language.

Language is not static and changes every 100 years.

Present day Yoruba lexicon compared with alleged Kemet is brain dead.

Check up the post afresh. I've modified it, I've been busy.

I believe your 100 years language change was revealed to you by baphomet.

By that token, a man 120 years would not be able to communicate in the same language and be understood by his grandchild because the language would have change at the turn of the century.

I hope you know a change doesn't necessitate a 180 degrees shift. You know what change means right?

Obalufon:
Macof and his ibo monkey go and shave your hairy arse monkey boy

I'll be here to call your bullshit every time you rant rubbish

FYI

Obalufon:
i don't talk to monkeys ibo boy ..we clothed your fathers go and make the research ..Tower of babel is stuck in your head

Your ludicrous and cowardly approach is to call a bonafide Yoruba royalty Igbo coz you can't backup your bullshit claims


Lmao. Insanity in action

absoluteSuccess:
More rants of idiocy.

Learn to make sense in as few words as possible

1. A historian is not a mere story teller. A historian gathers information, analyses and interprets them to reach a conclusion on their authenticity and signifance

2. The Bible does not mention the Yoruba people... That is what I said . Clearly you are too dumb and I should have used an extra sentence to explain that the people not the name was meant... Should I have meant the name "Yoruba" it would have been clear enough by use of quote marks
I still wait for what parts of the Bible Yoruba people are mentioned and with what names

3. Countless scholars (yes, so many I value it as countless) have stated the Bible is not a proper historical source and only take stories from it seriously when confirmed by better measures to gain historical knowledge like archaeology, art history, palaeography and general measures of source criticism
Scholars like William Dever, Thomas Thompson, Lupovitch Howard, Adele Berlin etc

P. S you see how few my words are? Try that and stop ranting

What are the archeological artifacts to back up your own fantasy claims?

Obalufon:
You are useless guy you lack c'mon sense.. Tower of babel laughing " are you searching for city of babel in yoruba land ? caged brain macof literally savvy but lack c'mon sense ,i like the way you write though but hate your mind " laughing ..Babel is what is giving you problem .. Go and meet your Elders if you have one - to tell you story about great flood and how God change our language in Ile-ife history .. No myth or history in the bible or Quran that we don't have our own version Even some scholars believe everything in the bible was copied from Egyptian texts that is why some scholars are trying to bridge the gab because the similarity between Yoruba and Hebrew religion is damn to much, even though i am rooted in my yoruba tradition as a yoruba man, i imbibe attributes and virtues of true yoruba man we are not too fast to disprove people.. Also as a wise person you need to learn
And another thing you don't know is that the ethnicities of Senegal, Gambia and Mali are all Niger - Congo as well so what's your point? Your white master told you that so i advice read books written by African scholars even written by whites are done in away to caged your mind ..To me from sudan to mali is cushite land Hausa , bambaras soninke all the malian tribes all migrated here from Sudan .... Senegalese are northern african aborigine that were pushed downward by the migration of Bedouin Arabs from Syria , Iraq Turk Levant. first by Italians.....some Italian have 30% of Senegalese DNA even in Spain and Portugal ....Egyptian too migrated south passing through bornu ...Ibn battuta visited Oyo i need you to read books i guess you are looking for yoruba in the book

Stop dropping nonsense claims with zero proof.

The only Yoruba Tower of Babel you'll see is the Nollywood version right beside the Yoruba passing of the red sea

Pathetic bunch. Totally hopeless and shameless

Attention seeking garbage disposal of a man

Biblical shutdown

Abia the only Nigerian reference in the bible

Is the latest strategy to attack anyone pushing back with a coherent response against people that can't decide if they are Israelites, Egyptians or Sudanese as Igbo?

The inferiority complex these folks have is multifaceted

Obalufon:
you bunch of monkeys go back to your land ..Anything yoruba used to give you head ache.. we are not the same we are different..

You must be on the lower left extreme of the Yoruba intelligence bell curve.

Obalufon:
ibos believe abia is in the bible ibos are the real Hebrew Israelite ,,

I am sure the folks running wild and imaginative in this thread believe they are biblical incarnates. No wonder kemet is second language to them.

Let me join in the madness

Iroyin (Yoruba) - News
Roy (Kemet) - Public Service Announcement

We must be Hebrew that lost our ways after the passover and ended up in Ile Ife

Enugu Almajiri Kwenu

lawani:
The one hundred words in the paper are just a tip of the ice berg.

You derived that from a blog you acknowledged is defective. Interesting

lawani:
So you think it counts for nothing that over 50percent of our Yoruba vocab originates from kemitic Egyptian?

And you insert an unfounded percentage? When you are not an Aba or Biafran statistician. Lmao

On what basis?

lawani:
I don't agree with many things in the blog but the similarity between kemitic Egyptian and Yoruba languages as highlighted in the paper made me believe the migration story. In the paper, there is a list of hundred words that mean the same thing in Yoruba and kemitic Egyptian.

Present day language to ancient language. Language is not static and changes every 100 years.

Present day Yoruba lexicon compared with alleged Kemet is brain dead

MetaPhysical:
Beyond words, all aspects of living in Yoruba has symmetry with styles and features of life in Afro-Asia.

You dont have to prove anything on the forum. You deposit your theories and hope people with interest will give it a befitting analysis, for and against.

By exploring, you are exhibiting innate capacities of the mind to formulate and concretize what had not before thought possible outside of abstract imagination...and you therefore develop potential to be a teacher and awakener of mankind.

Be confident in yourself, you stand in their way...you control the conversation and the theme. You spike their blood with your novel hypothesis and wide ranging ideas...let them hold you still if they can. They cannot.

You are delusional.

All these comradeship proves absolutely nothing. Just a bunch of guys with the same Egyptian (glad it shifted from Hebrew) myths.

If there was a mass migration in the millions, the evidence will be littered all over the trail. It won't result in some conjecture about how present day Yoruba language is related to some ancient Egyptian language with no respect of timelines.

macof:
@lawani

Here's another excerpt from the blog



Come on..
I don't know how much or how little you know about history and if you understand timeliness and chronology but come on
65,000 BC the Nok culture occupied Nigeria? Wtf!

And so many times people think too far and too much of this "East"
First of all, Yoruba traditions do not talk of an Eastern origin. It rather speaks of oduduwa coming from the east to settle in Ilé-Ifẹ̀
There's a difference there

Secondly, oduduwa coming from the east is in reference to Òkè-Ọ̀rà (east of Ilé-Ifẹ̀) before we start looking at China and Japan

I knew the blog will be full of sh!t. Didn't even bother to read it. I thought he had a peer reviewed document or something written with serious research behind it.

Same ole mumbo jumbo with Nok culture moving BCs like Cayotte chasing the road runner

lawani:
its a peer reviewed work published on a blog

Peer reviewed work has it's place. If you provide the main link to the institution backing the work then I'd jump on it. Outside of that, it's not more than an imaginative write up

lawani:
kayfra. Plz open this link and read.

It's a blog. Nothing more than the opinions I read here.

lawani:
Of course the DNA of a single man does not make much difference and he did not come from Egypt but probably somewhere in the Middle East. However, millions of Egyptians relocated to Yoruba land a few thousand years ago enough to change our vocabulary. However, Yoruba are west Africans.

Millions of Egyptians relocated?

Where's the proof of that? Any archeological finds or other proven means and most especially, what solid proof ties the migration to Oduduwa the historical figure? Why did their Afro-asiatic language the millions exported jump over a wide landmass and ended up next to the ocean on the other side of the continent? How did they superimpose their language on the indigenous Yorubas?

With a migration in millions then we can guaranty a solod trail just like any other historical mass migrations except we talking ghost migrations here. Then it all fits in with Oduduwa the skylord from mecca

lawani:
The man called himself a son of nimrod the same way a modern Yoruba will call himself a son of oduduwa. He was not a direct son but a descendant of nimrod. Lamurudu is not a recent addition, it is part of the oral history.

Let me give you basic logic. Let's assume that Nimrod fable is true. One man called Oduduwa, a descendant of Nimrod, came to Ife and met indigenous people.

1. No evidence the man imposed his imported Egyptian language on the local folks, afterall it's one dude and probably his crew against many settlements
2. It's one Oduduwa out of plenty people. One DNA from Nimrod against African DNA
3. Zero proof in DNA analysis. Zero.

How does this change our origin not being indigenous to West Africa or our language some Afro Asiatic blend?

When something sounds ridiculous, it is probably ridiculous

lawani:
The name sticks out like a sore thumb and it is not an orisa neither is it a recent addition.

Nope. It's one of the contemporary and alternate additions that came in the 20th century. Samuel Johnson documented it and related it to a Muhammedan timeline. Historical Nimrod (Genesis era) is way out of that timeline.

So it's a post contact with Abrahamic faith fairytale. Cool story though but not factual.

lawani:
if the man renamed oduduwa is from the Middle East because of the mention of nimrod, it does not mean the Yoruba are Semitic in origin. Not at all.

That's a big IF

The nimrod (Lamurudu) fable is a contemporary addition

lawani:
Yoruba is not from Israel but the language we speak is kemitic Egyptian which the Israelites spoke when they were slaves in Egypt.

Niger-Congo and Afro-Asiatic languages are very different. Any similarities you find are anecdotal at best or by recent trading influences from the 18th century and above.

All these linguistic gymnastics with little regard to time references on both sides are more of an exercise in creativity than substance. It's about time we drop this semitism by force bullshit.

lawani:
While Yoruba is West African, no group is an island. The ruling family in england is Norman French but the people are Celts. What the Yoruba are known for globally is the ifa oracle and that surely is West african.

Still any origin tracing us to Israel is not only far fetched but dumb amidst the scientific evidence we all have. If you state the reverse, then yeah there were migrations out of Africa. But the origin of an indigenous people is not in far away middle east. We need to cut the unscientific bullshit

I am speaking based on DNA tests. Most Yoruba folks have like 3-4% Senegal and Mali. The bulk of it is from Nigeria all the way to ivory cost with some Cameroon and central Africa mix (less than 5%)

macof:
You are the biggest of the buffoons I've told you this before

Let me just correct few things here
1. Ibn Battuta never mentioned the Yoruba. I have read the reports of his Rihla. If you want to argue just present the page and quote where he mentioned any Yoruba kingdom or Oyo empire as you say
2. Yorùbá greatness does not negate the fact that Yoruba are a native African people. Africans can be great too, you dummy

I don't know where they got this defeatist and inferior idea that native people can't be great unless they somehow have semitic ties. It's the most ludicrous thing i have heard in my life. That's like saying that collective black IQ can't become civilized without the invisible Hebrew hand.

This thread is a disgrace

darleenje:
Please what is the directive? I want to know if he complyed with them or not.

Lagos and Ogun said 50 people max per gathering and Lagos later reduced it to 20.