₦airaland Forum

Arda1000:
nice right up... we are blessed not only us anyway,the Ibibios and Efik suffered like us too they stood by us till the end,BT Igbo is an Ethnic group not Tribe.

FarFromAverage:

Stop deluding yourself

gwafaeziokwu:


Everyone serious minded person here knew you were just trolling. We just decided to humour you with silence. Yet you lost a one sided argument with yourself. What will now happen if the arsenals starts flying around.

GreyLaw:
What was "Northern Igbo states" in 1450? I know Nairaland makes people irrational, but what in the name of whatever you worship was "Northern Igbo states" during the timeline stated in this piece?

When did we even have the concept of states in Nigeria? If at all what was written in the research happened (Africans cannot even tell their fathers 4 generations ago let alone over 600 years ago), Igbos, or Eboes, or Ibos were residing in groups or hamlets and such groups could be attacked by anybody. Now those groups could have been in Nsukka or wherever.

Op, if the essence of this post was to gather likes and to help you fight the Igbos online, then I understand. No problem with that. However, if you want a healthy discussion, then you should know that this whole thing written up there, if ever correct, refers to wars and skirmishes between hamlets and small village fights where maybe the Igala won. Just like there were no United Yoruba in those years, there were no United Igbos also. People existed in family groups and hamlets.

Before you conquer a people in those days you needed severe numerical advantage. Pray tell, how many are the Igalas today? They don't even have a state to themselves.

Dedetwo:
Have you heard about Ekumeku? The bolded is the ill of the so-called free education. Free things are not always valuable.

gwafaeziokwu:

Yeye boy I knew you will definitely shoot yourself in the leg at some point. You admitted that only Arochukwu's resisted the British,and conveniently forgot the well researched Ekumeku movement from Western Igbo area which Asaba represents.

In your infantile unbalanced logic, Arochukwu and Ekumeku 15 years war with Britain can not be described as Igbo war ,but the Igala skirmishes with few northern Igbo clans can rightly be termed the conquest and enslavement of entire Igbo land by the Igalas.

Even the Igalas in this forum watching your show of shame will be wondering the source of your own "sniff", b'cos the thing is really strong.

mynaijaforumcom:
Or maybe we should all admit that our people's had savage or subjugated pasts. Neither is should be prideable and maybe we shouldn't glory over these things and maybe focus on nation building instead

Dedetwo:
All these imaginary powers did not conquer or leave significant sign that Igbo people were conquered at ease. Even the might British overstepped all ethnic nationalities in what is known today as Nigeria except Ndigbo. British to had to settle on treaty with Igbo people as lately as 1913. Yet by 1904, every ethnic nationality in today's Nigeria has been subdued by the imperialistic power of Britain. Ndigbo stood and never wavered against Britain. Talk is really cheap.

Dedetwo:
Where were the Igala when Sokoto Caliphate came calling? There is no iota of trace of Igala's upper hand in Igbo land talk less colonization. This could not be said about the so-called Igala that every leadership household is converted Muslim. The power of Sokoto Caliphate was marked on every nook and cranny of Igala land. Yet Ndigbo forces Sokoto Caliphate to look elsewhere but Igbo land.

ezenwajosh:
Igala never colonised Igbo

Is like saying Ibibio Colonised Igbo

Igala is the only daughter of ERI THE SON OF GAD

INFACT THE KING OF IGALA IS ATTAH OF IGALA AND ATTAH IS ALSO A CHIEFTAINCY TITLE IN OBOSI ANAMBRA STATE AND ALSO ENUGU(DID IGALA ALSO COLONISE THE TWO CITIES?)

I HAVE AN IGALA THAT SPEAKS IGBO AND ANSWERS OGAMBA( OGAMBA AS A SURNAME IS ANSWERED BY IGBOS IN ANAMBRA, ENUGU, IMO, ABIA AND ALSO RIVERS) DID IGALA ALSO CONQUERED RIVERS?

THE MAN YOU HEAR HIS NAME IWEKA(OF THE POPULAR UPPER IWEKA) IS AN IGALA MAN

IWEKA IS IGBO NAME(THERE'S MORE TO ANGER)

You know YOUR COUSINS BY NAME, LANGUAGE AND TRADITION

IGALANS TIE TWO PIECE WRAPPERS,SAME WITH IGBOS AND OTHER OF THEIR COUSINS

OUR HISTORY WAS AT A POINT CHANGED TO SELL THEIR DIVIDE AND CONQUER BUT I KNOW BETTER AND MY CHILDREN WILL DO SAME

IF YOU WANT TO KNIW THE TRUTB GO TI ERI KINGDOM AND ALL WILL BE SHOWN TO YOU

thatigboman:
Kayfra, you should be more concerned about the dahomey women that decimated your great grandparents from cotonou to abeaokuta, where your ancient people ran and hid under a certain olumo rock.
In the northern part of the south west slaveland, fulani militia from futa jalon through sokoto to ilorin butchered every of ancient at sight, from ilorin to ogbomosho and then to oyo, which made your great grandfathers to run to a concentration camp later renamed ibadan and protected by the white men.
Thank the whiteman, every town in SW to lagos by now would have been ruled by fulani emir, like ilorin

maestroferdi:
Are you this lazy?

All I asked you to do was corroborate your asinine hotchpotch of inconsistencies and all you could do was to go off at a tangent dropping names...

Are you not wasting my time?

maestroferdi:
Which silly historians and anthropologists are you talking about?

So we should accept subjective analyses and slanted viewpoints as bases for establishing fact?

BTW, Where did Achebe tell you that Igbos were conquered by the Igalas or that the Igbos were under Igala domination?

I think it is time you busy yourself with profitable ventures than indulge in this jejune and thankless activity....

maestroferdi:
You are a virtual nobody trying to arrest the attention of seriously-minded people.

I blame those retorting to your palm-wine joint narrative.

The Igbos are like no other people so stop wasting your energy trying to compartmentalize them....It is condemned to be an exercise in futility.

Yujin:
Do you lack comprehension skill? That the Igalas installed the attamas as custodian of things already established by Igbos in Nsukka doesn't mean that they're the ones that formed them. Do Igalas have 'alusi'? Do they have Ikenga? You can only give what you have! They succeeded to dominate the Nsukka area and installed the Attamas which are still there till date but having been Igbonized. Where else do we have Attamas in the northern fringes of Igboland? There are no Attamas in Anambra or Enuani areas because Igalas didn't succeed there. Slow down and read carefully to understand better. No one can dispute the intrusion of Igalas into those areas but it wasn't a conquest as you wish it was. ONLY in Nsukka was there any domination of Igbo groups and it was resisted too.
All around the banks of River Niger the Igalas traded with Igbos and Ijaws who managed to come up stream. Igbos waged no war on anyone. It was business and harmonious living. Do you know that there were Igalas in Onitsha yet Obi of Onitsha was there? In Obi Aroli's time, Igalas were trading there. Fewer of them went deeper into the Anambra area and they settled and are today Igbos. If you want to learn about Igbo history ask properly and you will be taught.
The Igalas normally present a Benin mask as an evidence that they defeated them in a battle. How true is that story? Only solid evidences can prove it. The same here.

Yujin:
Lol. You are the fearful person who goes around looking up for anything to use against the great Igbos. You're pathetic.
Now to the topic. The sojourn of Igalas into Northen fringes of Anambra and Enugu states are well documented. It actually started as invasions but gradually faded into interactions. The only areas they political had strong footing was in the Nsukka area. The book you quoted was clear enough to tell you that it had limited knowledge in telling the full story of the interaction. Among all the areas in those areas I mentioned, only Nsukka had institutions with Igala origin signifying the strength of the Igala gains there. Nsukka people bear Igala names and use similar articles as them. This is clear to anyone that visits Nsukka. Nsukka today happens to a small area of Enugu state. Compare the size of Igala to the size of Nsukka then you see that the Igalas underperformed. The other areas the Igalas encroached into in the Anambra area have a story to mark the defeat of the Igalas. They lost steam and gradually had to settle down around those areas and acculturate. It was these groups that influenced the Igalas so much that the popular Igbo four market days was adopted by them. No group from Anambra have 'Atama' or the Igala institution but they welcomed Igalas and they all settled down well. Igbos also settled down around Igala areas and names of Igbo areas can still be found today in Igala areas. The Obi of Aboh traded with the Attah of Igala as far as Idah. Such was our interaction. The only thing I'll say is that various Igbo groups had individual relationship with the Igala which shouldn't have been so but our republicanism caused it. The powerful Obi Ossai didn't know that the Nsukka were struggling at the time under Igala power. Today, it wouldn't be so. This is the Igbo/Igala story. I wonder where you got that Ikenga the powerful Igbo cult of Nri origin came from Igala. Is Ikenga an Igala word or does it even sound so? Your hatred wouldn't let you be objective.
Like I've said before, Igboland was and is still a land of free people. Everyone is welcomed as long as you will add to make it great. We are the great Igbo whose presence send fear into the hearts of the wicked. Choke on your hate!

Dedetwo:
Some fools tend to incite themselves with blatant falsehood and certain ninnies equally celebrate the foolery. In what language is Ibo denotes slave? It is certainly not Igbo language. If Ibo means slave in a certain foreign language, the author displayed mischievous intent by not stating the language in the essay.

Yujin:
This Kayfra of a person is so zealous to paint Igbos in bad light. He is a real example of what majority of his people desire for Igbos. Day after day, all that occupies his mind is Igbo. Lol. We have seen your type here on Nairaland many years ago. They've all run away after reality hit them hard. Even you will soon run away. You will still beg us for your survival some day. I'll respond to the post properly in my next post.

MrColdsweat:
You must be sick in the head to equate the northern Igbos in upper anambra and nsukka to the whole igbos in over 8 states in Nigeria.

Continue sticking your head in the gutter.

Eternitymedia88:
Truth is bitter .....ibos were slaves.


Thank your creator for the bolded...."were"


The Yoruba meaning best describes you

MrColdsweat:
There is no place in the publication that claims that igalas colonized igbos. Even the publisher claimed that the history of the Igbos is still in contention.

You are just pained and frustrated. Go and commit suicide. Afterall, suicide is your culture.

MrColdsweat:
The funny thing is, the idiot has not dropped a single link to verify his claims.


No worry, Igbo giants will continue to pursue you in your dreams.

Rapmoney:
Knowledge is very far from you. Cheap internet plans have made it possible for kids to come online to type crap!

revolt:
this as you may not know is the reason igbos are very diverse. Igbos are the first and only ethnici4y that's made up of people that migrated and chose to become igbo in the past..from ijaw to hausa, to yoruba, to benin, Sean, tiv, bibi etc. That's why its more of a nation than an ethnicity. My great grandfather may not even be igbo. As we simply cannot trace where he originally came from, but we do know our grand dad assimilated and chose to be a NWAFOR. This is the same with other s too.

celeiyke:
If Igala colonized the Igbo, we would have had the Ilorin situation in Igboland.