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absoluteSuccess:
You are a fish in your water. I am to blame for whatever "change" means to you. Your ignorance are mine.

You can never give what you don't have, hence the shït in you follow you everywhere you go as often. It's all you have.

You are indeed sane.

What's your Hebrew name? I'll name you Shakhor

Shakhor is Hebrew
Shako is Yoruba

I just gave you yet another brilliant connection we have to the jews

Lmao

Awon asinwin

absoluteSuccess:
That you have 'sane people' regularly conjured up in your mind is classic. It's the evidence of the most important issues at the core of your existence.

When you claimed language changes every 100 years, then by implication, three generation of the same people should speak mutually unintelligible languages. Is that scientific?

I asked for real life examples, you claimed change is not neccessrily up to 180°. Is such 'train of thought' a proof of sanity? Just asking to know, oga sane Igbo boy.

I bet you are clueless of scientific metrics. When you came up with a measure, you are already drawing up a Cartesian graph with such figure as yours.

We can plot your given data on an x and y axis with your 100 years as gradients of change. But you have no clue to your claim. It's drawn from the a.ss.

Prodded further, <180° pop up. This on a pie chart shows you lack cognition for mathematical principles. 180° appears to you as 360°. That, you failed to see.

You are the true definition of dummy, you employed software that helps you speak Yoruba, one of such murdered the input and you don't know where you err.

Did you see that? You are not what you think you are, but what you "think", you are.

This is rich for someone that classifies change as absolute.

Hebrew agba e la o

I sh!t on this pathetic thread

Igbos want to reap where they didn't sow.

Go beg your master PDP for presidential ticket and never mention APC in your life again.

Kenplay:
He lived to the ripe age of 92 before he died.
Now answer me; did your father achieve 5% of what Zik achieved in his life time?

More. And he isn't a glorified carpet i.e. Zik

Kenplay:
Atleast he achieved what your father could never achieve in life.

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Abi. He died unsung in his hometown

1. It's all made up stuff
2. Even if you give the benefit of the doubt. You end up comparing ancient language to a current one. Language isn't static

MetaPhysical:
You have an excellent insight and capacity to expand a little knowledge into all its related outstretched points and thus build a web of information reaching far beyond and giving to that knowledge a refinement and richness not previously imagined.

This post is wonderful, Im seeing the relatedness of go-ma-go-do for the first time and it sits well.

God bless you!

Translation to the sane people amongst us.

You are creative and can pull sh!t out of your a$$

Rumxy:
His ceremonial presidency was as a result of his coalition with NPC who had the majority not about Herbert Macaulay.
Yes his presidency was ceremonial but it didn't mean he didn't have his way in that government. If he was just a pawn like you said nobody would have been complaining today that Zik alone removed the secession clause from our constitution against the wish of Bello and Awo. A pawn couldn't have had such power. Nobody would have complained that Zik filled almost all the juicy positions in Nigeria then with his kinsmen including in other people's region eg UI, Unilag. A pawn as you said even as a ceremonial president can never achieve this without political influence.

I still repeat, based on legacies for their people, Awo comes first followed by Bello but when it comes to overall politics and all the intrigues that come with it, Zik tops them.

If the politics of I'll lay down so you can ride on me is considered successful. Yes, Zik succeeded. Apart from getting most of his fellow friends positions and him being signatory of many decisions debated, but as a result of his ceremonial position, signed by him. Zik was largely ineffectual. Igbos quickly shoved him into the history books. He wasn't revered by his own kilt and kin. His mausoleum was abandoned by state government and didn't even attract private funding. This in an area where vanity projects (e.g. massive xmas trees) is the norm.

senatordave1:
I won't be surprised if he claims that zik is Greater than mandela

Lolz

The truth is Zik was a glorified figure head. Everything about him was symbolic. He wasn't a transformative or impactful leader. Just a fancy pawn piece used at the right time. Zik himself knew his limitations. Someone that went under the radar after 1st republic and even his ceremonial presidency was as a result of his NCNC mentoring by Hubert Macaulay

iammo:




this should be in the joke section



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Lmaooooo

Rumxy:
The question should be why is he known across Africa but Awolowo and Bello are just national heroes? When you answer that then you will know why he was special.
He has establishments named after him in the north, west and eastern part of Nigeria, USA, Tanzania etc, can you say the same for Awo and Bello who where regional figure heads. Even Balewa that was the prime minister was no match to him.
Ordinary Wikipedia would save you the embarrassment of trying so hard to rubbish the efforts of an elderly statesman you should be celebrating.

Zik isn't known across Africa. That's why I called that statement a misnomer in the first place.

Nobody knows Zik outside Nigeria, maybe perhaps West Africa. Awo's legacy is enduring.

Rumxy:
Zik started his struggle way back in the US together with people like Nkrumah. When he came to Africa, his first point of call was in Ghana where he continued the struggle using his newspapers. Down to Nigeria, Macaulay was the leader of the movement already when Zik joined his party. After his death, he became the leader of the struggle in Nigeria. Now ask yourself why didnt we hear Macaulay of Africa, Awolowo of Africa, Bello of Africa? This is because Zik was among those that fought for the liberation of the black man, Africa and Nigeria while his contemporaries then focused on Nigeria then and some even their tribes alone. Seeing him in that list is in no way accidental because his political teachings and ideologies extended across Africa. Little wonder he was the only advocate of One Nigeria among his peers. That is the essence of Pan-africanism.
We have over flogged this issue but it might benefit u to read more history books. Thanks

Zik road in his coattails. He wasn't particularly exceptional. He leveraged on a popular but ineffectual movement.

Rumxy:
No impact and he was among the major proponents of achieving Nigeria's independence. During that era,the major struggle for the few black intellectuals then was the liberation and emancipation of the black man. This was what all those people in that list fought for including Zik. For those in Africa then, the liberation came through Independence of their countries from the colonial masters while for those in USA and Europe, it came through enforcing social equality and ending racism.
The Mandela and Nkrumah that you are celebrating, is not because they fought for their countries independence? How is it different from Zik or is it because Zik wasn't sentenced to prison that you now downplay his roles.
Please let's learn to appreciate our own sometimes and study history more. thanks

Herbert Macaulay laid the ground for all that fight. Zik was one of his mentees amongst others.

Kenplay:
You are truely an empty dunce. Now crawl back to the hole you came out from. gosh!!! Kids has taken over Nairaland.

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Knuckle dragger. You've run out of your 5MB quota. Now, run along

Rumxy:
Wow at least I schooled in Ghana and most of my classmates talk about Zik of Africa as they call him. He might not be as popular as some of the names there but can you vouch that you have heard of some of those names before. Moreover when you die during a struggle, you tend to be more popular than those that attain old age though this is not factual anyway but we see it most times.

Ok. Let's give him minor props for making the list with zero impact

Rumxy:
I gave you a reputable list of all the well known pan africanists in history which also included the names of the people you mentioned but you decided to single out Zik maybe because he is a nigerian or not from your preferred ethnicity, I can't really tell but you can go read his biography maybe you might be more enlightened after that.


Note that I never said he was a saint but everybody has a good and bad side. Gracias

He was associated with that list but my point is, he wasn't prominent outside Nigeria.

Kenplay:
You are a dunce. Most of my foreign friends do ask me about Zik, Obasanjo, IBB, Bello and Balewa when discusing Nigeria history and I can boldly tell you that none of them even know Awolowo even when I bring his name up.
Nnamdi Azikiwe wrote his name on the sand of Africa. If you are envious of that then go commit suicide.

Imaginary friends can ask for anything as far as your wild imaginations or hallucinations supports it.

Ode

Rumxy:
Until you are able to erase his name from this list that also includes all the names you mentioned above, then I don't have any meaningful argument with you.

You can't make a case for a vacuum

Rumxy:
is a misnomer because you say so. please kindly educate yourself. below is the 50 most important pan africanists in history https://www.panafricanalliance.com/50-most-important-pan-africans/

incase you don't know, Zik and Nkrumah graduated from the same university in the US and both share the same political ideology. Due to their achievements, they have a building dedicated and named after them to celebrate them as pan africanists.

Pan-Africanism exists as a governmental and grassroots objective. Pan-African advocates include leaders such as Haile Selassie, Julius Nyerere, Ahmed Sékou Touré, Kwame Nkrumah, King Sobhuza II, Thomas Sankara and Muammar Gaddafi, grassroots organizers such as Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X, academics such as W. E. B. Du Bois, and others in the diaspora.


Zik was just a swagger jacker. A scrub

Precious4real50:
Even American government know zik of Africa when you mention it to them compare to awolowo that won't cross western Nigeria




I still remain Ada ogwashi

Zik ko, Peak milk ni

Maybe his alma mater in America remember him

Rumxy:
Based on legacies, Awo trumps Zik and Bello but based on overall politics and influence across Nigeria and Africa, they are no match to Zik.

Zik of Africa is just a misnomer.

The real Pan-Africanists are well known unlike Zik. Kwame Nkrumah and co.

IamAtikulate:
Higher proportion of people in the SE and SS speaks better English than Yorubas.

The acclaimed Yoruba literacy is a hoax.

Deceive those who has not been to the waste land.

Speaking English is not a sign or proof of an enlightened and educated mind.

Your shallow and boisterous post reinforces the stereotype. You are a dumb Biafran

It is Ikpeazu. The Kerosene dispenser

thisweekng:
5G Network: I have received 2 international calls threatening me and warning me to back off – Dino Melaye

The Ex Nigerian Senator, Dino Melaya Has Voiced Out That He Has Received Two International Call Threatening And Warning Him To Back Of On The Issue Of The 5G. This Came After Dino Has Put Up A Strong Defense Against Nigeria, Being Part Of The Countries, The New Generation Network Will Be Launched.

The Former Senator Who Described 5G Network As Evil, Stated That It Kills The Immune System, Affects The Respiratory System, Causes Cancer And Hypertension And Indirectly Causing The Deaths Of Coronavirus Patients.. Dino Also Said That He Was Told That 5G Is Bigger Than President Of Nations That He Should Stop.

“I Have Received 2 International Calls Threatening Me And Warning Me To Back Off The 5G Issue. I Was Told By The Last Caller That 5G Is Bigger Than Presidents Of Nations So I Should Stop. And I Told Him It Is Not Bigger Than God. I Am Not Killable By Man.”

https://thisweekng.com/2020/04/05/5g-network-i-have-received-2-international-calls-threatening-me-and-warning-me-to-back-off-dino-melaye/

Dino is a clinical idiot

Knarfoza:
Every forward thinking scholar( e.g FEMI FANI-KAYODE ) in our time today suspects that there is a connection between 5G and Coronavirus.
However, some conspiracy theories are close to the truth while so many other theories are logicaly unintelligible. After participating in the loveworld prayers, i had my own revelation as it was written in Ephesians 3:3.
the forces of Globalisation will stop at nothing in bringing about a new world order even if it means paying the ultimate price .
is this the end of the world? the answer is No.

It was said that the 5G cellular Network test killed hundreds of birds in Holland, which lead to the condemnation of the 5G network. to some, this was nothing new as science has ways of fast tracking Evolution.
The coronavirus has some Genetic materials which enables it to replicate itself when it finds a receptor. if your immune system is strong you may not fall sick but if your immune system is weak you will fall sick. However, as your immune system begins to fight back, it registers all activities in your DNA and when you recover from the "pandemic" your immune system will be primed(evolution) against the coronavirus. for example, those in the slums of sub Sahara africa have been proven to have their immune system primed against the mosquito plasmodium, and if a white man stays in a mosquito infested environment, he may not survive up to 14 days.

The truth is, the coronavirus is designed to raise the human immune system to be able to handle the 5G frequency Radiation. these wicked folks believe that man is an Evolutionary being capable of adapting to situation in it's environment.

this is why they never supported Donald Trump when he suggested a cure for the virus, this is because those whose immune system is not primed against Coronavirus are at risk of getting sick from the 5G frequency Radiation. this was the big secret of the so called 1918 spanish flu.
is this the end of the world as we know it? the answer is yes, because this is the beginning of the End. the Nigerian government should only accept financial aid. but then they will never refuse the trojan gift.

This is incredibly dumb

absoluteSuccess:
Yes boss, Ogogo Magogo is Og and Magog.

But there are just some intriguing part to the term from the plain of Jezreel, (present day Tell Al Mustekeen) that if carefully viewed will betray further understanding.

Igodomigodo is of the same antiquity as this, meanwhile its the same root word for Megiddo, majidun, magodo, adjido: adjido means ajido "root [or source] of the progenitor:

Everyone connected to this grid in antiquity had a memorial stuck in their language. The phrase "obo l'Agido" shows that the Yoruba was conversant with Agido, her word for Megiddo.

They all have their variant of the place name. Many decisive war has been fought at this place. Hence it is metaphorical for the war of "Ha Magedon" that the Bible talked about.

The place so called is the plain of jezreel and whoever control the place had the cananland. Thus has been the fate from the invasion of Pharaoh Tutmose till WWII.

Igodomigodo

Another medley in the same family of "antique transliteration" is Igodomigodo: the Yoruba cannot say "igodomigodo", but they have a splinter, Igando.

Like you have it in majidun and magodo targeting the same source, Igando and Ogodo or magodo forms the contraption "igando-omo-igando".

Thats the hidden meaning of the term igodomigodo. The languages of this people holds clues and were connected in antiquity. But whats the historical value of this?

The implication of this terminology is that the Bini were first ruled by 'marine chieftains, sons of marine chieftains' when they were not yet a formidable people.

To verify this in the Bible, Edom married two wives, both Hittites. He was marrying into an established tribe as an individual. These were Canaanites, kindred with the Horites who controlled Jerusalem at a point in time.

And like the horite, the Hittite empire spread from Ugarit to Hebron as its flanks. They were seafarers. Thus the appellation, Oga odo, omo Oga Odo. This is validated in

"Jaka ara weme omoba tente lori omi"

They were original dwellers of mount seir, with the Horites. But the Hittites came from Ugarit where they have their capital city. The middle East was being contested for by all comers.

While the Hebrew family split, Israel was in Egypt, according to hebrew scriptures, Canaan empire was dwindling and Seir (Edom) was becoming a citadel 400 years after the patriarchs.

The original population overthrown or assimilated by Edom were the horites, the Hittites or the sea people, the kindred of the Phoenicians of Canaan at the fall of Canaan probably as a result of incessant attacks by the newcomers, the Hapiru.

Likewise the Yoruba also returned and conquered Qeltu and that became part of their allotment. Thus the emigrated Yoruba brought this place names with them.

The original inhabitants will definitely tilt towards being Yoruba protectorate but still revived or invoke their old identity like obalufon said, religion is part of the evolution of a people. An Ijebu song says

Orisa Ijebu o e
Orisa Ijebu o e
Orisa ijebu wagbewa nija o
Aye le orisa jebu wagbewa nija o.

When the going gets perplexing, people invoke their ancestry, that's spiritual. They should have invoke East Africa spring of mankind as the salvation of their society when threatened by extinction.

Better still they ought to invoke their source as perpetual place names. This will make scientific claims originating with origin of species an absolute history of mankind.

Rather, certain things worth putting in perpetuity, that the Yoruba ancestors did repeating place names, and we know its worth today. "Perpetual" in Yoruba is "atiran de iran".

Generation to generation.

On a lighter mood you accept the white man's history at your own risk. Is it not the folk tradition of the Yoruba slaves that somebody transformed to the origin of species?

It is said that all animals converged and had a meeting, that they cannot continued to be haunted by sons of men and they took their plea to the Creator.

Now God gave them the opportunity to all became human, but out of excitement, they missed their chance and remained as beasts perpetually.

Obo, monkey got faster jumping from tree to tree to where they had the elixir that will change their looks before any other animal. He was about settling down to the ritual when the rest of the animals arrived.

Alas they broke the pot in the stampede that ensued and monkey could only get as close to man as it is today. This is Yoruba folklore, buy that as origin of species at your own risk.

We are being sold our own folklore in the guise of science by the late comers.

Eku igbele o.

E ku insanity o

Ogun wo san arun yin

Not a single Edo name. Not one


That is self explanatory

Fakenews

Fakehistory

Lmao

I no know say dem dey chop Eba for Jerusalem

Igbo Eba Kwenu

Douglaufuoma:
Ebola was handle in with all seriousness by the goodluck administrator, though some persons gave credit to Lagos governor fashola. Now under Buhari what is happen, why this same Lagos state governor not handling, or I am missing something

What a dummy

sarrki:
gion moves the North, politics moves the West, ethnicity moves the East
Published March 31, 2020

Azuka Onwuka



Over the weekend, it was reported that some rioters torched a police station in Kusada, Katsina State, leading to the death of one person, because of the arrest of an Islamic cleric who held public prayers on Friday in breach of the Federal Government’s ban on gathering of crowds as a measure to stem the spread of COVID-19 pandemic.

Putting what happened in Katsina in context, it was not strange. Nigeria has three key problems that have bogged it down for decades: religion, ethnicity, and politics. The absence of a structure that puts these issues into cognisance and finds a solution to accommodate them in a positive way has ensured that Nigeria has stagnated or even regressed.


In summary, one can say that religion drives the North; politics drives the West, while ethnicity drives the East. By the East, one means the Old Eastern Region and the old Mid-Western Region.

The only part of Nigeria where the arrest of a religious leader for disobeying a Federal Government directive can lead to the burning of a police station is the North. And in the North, it will mainly be in the North-East, North-West and a small part of the North-Central. In Northern Nigeria, you dare not toy with Islam in whatever form. The passion for Islam is even higher than what obtains in Saudi Arabia where Islam has its headquarters.


In the North, political differences may hardly cause any quarrels. That is why in the Second Republic, Mallam Aminu Kano, with his People’s Redemption Party, controlled Kano State, the biggest state in the region (which then had Katsina as part of it), at a time Alhaji Shehu Shagari of the National Party of Nigeria was the President of Nigeria. At the same time, the Great Nigeria People’s Party, led by Alhaji Waziri Ibrahim, was in control of the old Borno State (which includes the current Yobe State). That did not create any problem or riot in the North.


Last month, the Emir of Kano, Muhammadu Sanusi II, was deposed and banished by the Government of Kano State. Some feared that it could cause a riot in the Kano and other Northern states, but nothing happened. The reality is that such a thing does not have the capacity to ignite a riot in the North.

If the Oba of Benin or the Obi of Onitsha had been deposed and banished for speaking against poverty, street children, low illiteracy rate and inequality in their domains or because of perceived political differences with the governor, it would have created an uproar in Edo and Anambra states respectively, with other neighbouring states speaking fiercely condemning the governor. In fact, the governor would not even contemplate deposing such a traditional ruler over such seemingly petty issues for fear of the consequences. An extreme action like that could only arise if the traditional leader is accused of a serious criminal offence like robbery, fraud, kidnapping, or any action that is deemed as bringing his office to disrepute.


Similarly, it will be hard to see the North riot over poverty, harsh economy or lack of employment. But it will be easy for the North to riot if there is any action taken against Islam in any part of the world, be it Denmark, Britain, France or the United States.

Police extort motorists to cross Delta boundary
In addition, the Boko Haram insurgency, which has its roots in religion, cannot happen in any part of the South. There can be an uprising in the South over ethnic or political issues, but never over religion.


The Middle Belt, which is also part of the North, draws its strength of unity from religion: Christianity. The people of this zone see themselves as united by Christianity in a region dominated by Muslims.

Conversely, when it comes to the Western part of Nigeria, religion can never make it to resort to violence. As I wrote in an August 2012 article entitled, “Religious tolerance: Are the Yoruba Number 1 in the world?”, there may not be any ethnic group or race that is more tolerant than the Yoruba on the issue of religion. Man and wife or twins can be Muslim and Christian and live in peace. A family may have a Muslim father, a Christian mother, a Christian first daughter of a different denomination, an animist first son, an atheist second son, and yet live in peace, with everyone celebrating each religious feast as one family. People can be voted offices irrespective of their religious inclinations. That is why the religious division being created by the Muslim Rights Concern, led by Prof Ishaq Akintola, is dangerous to what the South-West is known for.



However, when it comes to politics, the South-West is least tolerant of dissenting views in Nigeria. That is why the political violence that happened in the First Republic tagged Operation Wetie could not have happened in any other part of Nigeria except the South-West. A Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe from the East can be the presidential candidate of the Nigerian People’s Party while his kinsman Dr Alex Ekwueme is the vice presidential candidate of the NPN under Shagari. Such cannot cause any conflict. It is the same in the North.



In the South-West, there is usually one mainstream party to which every “true Yoruba” or omoluabi is expected to belong. Any other party is seen as the party of saboteurs, and anybody who belongs to it is viewed harshly and is hardly ever forgiven. Anytime a South-West state is not controlled by that mainstream party, all is not seen as being well until that state is brought back to the fold. The unwritten law is that when it comes to politics, all South-West states must be controlled by the mainstream party of the South-West. Anything to the contrary is seen as an aberration.



In the South-East and the South-South, a different scenario plays out. Religion and politics do not make the people draw the lines. What fires them up is more of ethnic loyalty. Within the zones, you can belong to any political party or religion without much crisis. However, when the people feel that their well-being is threatened, they mobilise and resist such. That was what led to the Biafran War in 1967. The people of the Eastern Region, especially the Igbo, felt that their existence was threatened in Nigeria and resisted it. Before it, the uprising for the creation of the Niger Delta Republic, which was started by Isaac Adaka Boro on February 23, 1966 was for the same reason. Boro believed that the Igbo and the Federal Government were dominating the people of Niger Delta.



Similarly, Ken Saro-Wiwa led the Movement for the Survival of the Ogoni People because of his belief that the Federal Government was tapping the crude oil in Ogoniland and devastating the land without doing much for the people. That movement ended in the hanging of Saro-Wiwa in 1995. But shortly after Nigeria returned to democracy in 1999, sons of the Niger Delta took up arms against Nigeria, blowing up pipelines and kidnapping oil workers as their way of protesting the neglect of their land. It later ended in 2009 with an amnesty.



These are clear signs that show that what beats the drum to which each part of Nigeria dances is different. The tastes, values, desires and worldviews of the different parts of Nigeria are different. What one part sees as immaterial or insignificant means the world to the other zone and vice versa. That is why it has been disastrous trying to run Nigeria like “one nation bound in freedom, peace and unity.”

The only option open to Nigeria to have a modicum of progress is if it is run like a true federation with each zone given the free hand to pursue its dreams. It is a reality that has been difficult for some Nigerians to come to terms with. Yet, it is a reality that continues to thwart every attempt made to circumvent it.




https://punchng.com/religion-moves-the-north-politics-moves-the-west-ethnicity-moves-the-east/

This further reinforces Yorubas as the superior and most sophisticated group. Millions of miles ahead in terms of advanced thinking. We don't bicker on petty ethnic or religious differences. Our debates are mostly ideological.

I am super proud to be Yoruba. Omoluabi. We don't deserve to be in the same country with the savages surrounding us.