tolguy: innovation in religious matters, and holy Prophet said all innovations in religious matters are rejected
Why didn't you reject the printing press since it didn't exist in 600AD. A printed Koran should be taboo abi when back in those days, they manually wrote them. What's with selective criteria?
APCNig: Definitely, this slowpoke is typing from the psychiatric hospital. You hate Islam, yet your people are all slaving in Dubai (UAE), Kuwait, Oman, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic nations.
Those nation employ and need educated people, people with the abilityto think. The countries aren't being developed by Islamic reciters
It's 2020. We no longer ride on donkeys or do you? Just because Islamic recitation was cool in 600AD doesn't make it applicable today when technology has fixed the issue of recall for you. You have a memory aid on your iPhone or Android. Use it and let the kids fix world prpblems rather than wasting away memorizing Koran
Kokoebapluse: Did Jesus go to school? If no school have nothing to do with human brain even what they re teaching in school the idea come from environment, anybody can learn what he which to learn without going to school, my brother I don't want to condemn one for one, bro life is a free world
Jesus went to school, he had formal education for his own time 0-32AD. He was even a Rabbi (teacher)
What does Jesus have to do with anything we are discussing wasting precious time memorizing when technology aid is available for literally everyone?
Kubernetes: Do u really perform salat? If yes,then you need to memorize the Quranic text to enable you perform the five daily prayers.If you wish to recite long verses in asham or subhi prayers or be an imam leading prayers,you need this.
Kokoebapluse: I can see and understand your problem very well and let me address you am Yoruba and am a Muslim, first know western education doesn't guarantee sucesss in life did Jesus go to school? Can Jesus speak English? No, go to China, Korea, Japan, etc majority of people in those countries can't speak English or write English or have western education but they re doing fine, China was even among largest population in the world, having many children have nothing to do with western education at all, the responsibility of father is to take care of his family, but the 2 problem I think northern Nigeria have is 1 Al majiri children, 2 marry 4 wives without checking your capacity, allah said in Quran you can marry 2,3,4 but if you can't do justice 1 wife is OK, allah did not compulsory 4 wives the way northern take it, and some father can not even feed himself but have 4 wives and 15 children that Is really bad Allah also said he didn't bother a soul pass his capacity that means Allah don't force anybody to do something, about Boko Haram and other terrorist they have nothing to do with Islam and Islam have nothing to do with terrorist, may almighty Allah bless us all amin
Education isn't about speaking English or memorizing. It's teaching people to use their intellects to think independently given facts on ground
Kubernetes: Do u really perform salat? If yes,then you need to memorize the Quranic text to enable you perform the five daily prayers.If you wish to recite long verses in asham or subhi prayers or be an imam leading prayers,you need this.
This is not 600AD it's 2020AD
Your heart is seen by God. Religiousness isn't going to make up for it. You also reduce errors in memory by simply using an App
LabDNA: "What do the Igbos want?",Buhari asked during his media chat.
Obi Nwakamma answers him.
And now, Obi Nwakanma, a Poet, journalist, biographer and literary critic, has written an article in answer to the question, "What do the Igbos want?"
Enjoy:
In Biafra, under three years, they were making their own rockets and calculating its distances; distilling their own oil and making aviation fuel, creating in their Chemical and Biological laboratories, new cures for diseases like Cholera, shaping their own spare parts, and turning the entire East into a vast workshop, as Ojukwu put it.
At the end of the war, the Ukpabi Asika regime brought together these Biafran scientists and set up PRODA. The initiative led, in the first five years between 1970-1975 under the late Prof. Gordian Ezekwe and Mang Ndukwe, to designs of industrial machinery models and prototypes for the East Central State Industrial Masterplan, which remain undeveloped even today. The Murtala/Obasanjo regime took over PRODA in 1975 by decree, starved it of funds, and basically destroyed its aims.
Secondly, Federal government policies centralized all potentials for innovation and entrepreneurship. Before 1983, states had their Ministries of Trade and Industry. These were charged with local business registration, trade, and investment promotion, and so on. But today in Nigeria, if you wish to do any business, you'd have to go to Abuja (it used to be Lagos) to register under the Corporate Affairs Commission. It used to be that local business registration was state and municipal functions. The concentration of the leverage for trade utterly limited Igbo entrepreneurs, particularly in the era of import licensing, once your quota was exhausted, you could not do business.
This affected the old Igbo money in Aba and Onitsha, who were the arrow-heads of innovation and traditional partners in the advance of Igbo industrial economy. It is remarkable that as at 1985, a least by a book published by the Oxford Economist Tom Forrest in 1980, The Advance of African Capital, the Igbo had the highest investment in machine tools industries in all of Africa, and the highest depth of investment in rural, cottage industries. In his prediction in 1980, if that rate of investment continued, according to Forrest in 1980, the Igbo part of Africa would accomplish an industrial revolution by 1987. Now, by 1983/85, Federal government policies helped to dismantle the growth of indigenous Igbo Industry through its targeted national economic policies. As I have said, there is a corollary between industrial development and innovation.
Thirdly, the severe, strategic staunching of huge capital in-flow into the East starved Igbo businesses and institutions of the capacity to utilize or even expand their capacities. There were no strategic Federal Capital projects in the East. There were no huge infrastructural investments in the East. The last major Federal government investment in Igbo land was the Niger Bridge which was commissioned in 1966. Any region starved of government funds experiences catatony and attrition. Private capital is often not enough to create the kind of synergy necessary for innovation. Rather than invest in the East, from 1970 to date, the Federal government has strategically closed down every capacity for technological advancement in the East and stripped that region of its capacity.
By 1966, the Eastern Nigerian Gas masterplan had been completed under Okpara. But in its review of a Nigeria gas masterplan, the Federal government strategically circumvented the East. Oil and Gas are under Federal oversight. The Trans-Amadi to Aba Industrial Gas network/linkage had been completed in 1966, to pipe gas from Port-Harcourt to Aba. The Federal government let that go into abeyance and uprooted the already reticulated pipes. The East was denied access to energy with the destruction of the Power stations during the war.
The Mbakwe government sought to remedy this by embarking on two highly critical area of investment necessary for industrial life: the 5 Zonal water projects, which were 75 completed by 1983, and set for commissioning in 1984, which was to supply clean water for domestic and industrial use to all parts of the old Imo state, and the Amaraku and Izombe Power stations, under the Imo Rural Electrification Project. These were the first ever massive independent power projects ever carried out by any state government in Nigeria which would have made significant part of Igbo land energy independent today. The supply of daily electricity was possible in Imo as at 1984. The Amaraku station had come on stream, and the Izombe Gas station was underway, when Buhari and his men struck.
The first order of business under the Buhari govt in January 1984, was to declare all that investment by Mbakwe "white elephant projects." They were abandoned, and left to decay.
Ground had already been acquired and cleared on the Umuahia-Okigwe road to commence work by the South Korean Auto firm, Hyundai, under a partnership with Imo for the Hyundai Assembly plant in Umuahia, to cater to a West African market. The first order of business under the Buhari government in January 1984, was to declare all that investment by Mbakwe "white elephant projects." They were abandoned, and left to decay. The equipment at the Amaraku power station was later sold in parts by Joe Aneke during Abacha's government. Some of the industries like the Paint and Resins company, and the Aluminium Extrusion plant in Inyishi were privatized, and sold. Projects like the massive Ezinachi Clay & Brick works at Okigwe are at various stages of decay, as memorial to all that effort.
Forthly, you may not remember but Odumegwu Ojukwu founded and opened the first Nigerian University of Technology - the University of Technology Port-Harcourt in 1967, under the leadership of prof. Kenneth Dike. He had also compelled Shell to establish the First Petroleum Technology Training Institute in Port-Harcourt in 1966. All these were dismantled. The PTI was take from Port-Harcourt to Warri, while University of Tech, P/H was reduced to a campus of UNN, until 1975, when it became Uniport. You will recall that for years, up till 1981, the only institutions of higher learning in Central Eastern Nigeria were the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, IMT Enugu and Alvan Ikoku College of Ed, in Owerri. There is no innovation without centers of strategic research.
Mbakwe and Jim Nwobodo changed all that in 1981, when they pushed through their various states Assembly, the bills establishing the old Anambra State Univ. of Tech (ASUTHECH), under the presidency of Kenneth Dike, and the IMOSU with its five campuses under the presidency of Prof MJC Echeruo. The master plan for these universities as epicenters of research and innovation in the East were effectively grounded with the second coming of the military in 1984, and the diminution of their mission through underfunding, etc. As I have said, I have given you the very short version. After a brief glimpse of light between 1979-83, Igbo land witnessed the highest form of attrition from 1983- date, and the destruction of the efforts of its public leadership to restore it to its feet has been strategic.
Some have been intimidated, and the Igbo themselves have grown very cynical from that experience of deep alienation from Nigeria. I think you should be a little less cynical of Igbo attempts to re-situate themselves in the Nigerian federation: starved of funds, starved of investments, subjected to regulatory strictures from a powerful central government which sees the East in adversarial terms, and often threatened, the Igbo themselves grew cynical of it all. You may recall, the first move by the governors of the former Eastern Region to meet under the aegis of the old Eastern Region's Governors Conference in 1999, was basically checkmated by Obasanjo who threatened them after they called for confederation in response to the Sharia issue in the North.
Their attempts to establish liaison offices in Enugu and create a regional partnership was considered very threatening by the federal government under Obasanjo, that not too long after, they abandoned that move, and that was it. If people cannot be allowed to organize for the good of their constituents, then it only means one thing: it is not in the interest of certain vested interests in Nigeria for a return of a common ground in the Eastern part of Nigeria because establishing that kind of common ground threatens the balance of power. It is even immaterial if such a common ground leads to Nigeria's ultimate benefit. There are people who just find the idea of a common, progressive partnership of the old Eastern Region threatening to their own long term interests. This is precisely what is going on - its undercurrent. This of course cannot be permitted to go on forever. A generation arises which often says, "No! in Thunder."
The Trans-Amadi to Aba Industrial Gas network/linkage had been completed in 1966, to pipe gas from Port Harcourt to Aba. The FG let that go into abeyance and uprooted the already reticulated pipes.
Igbo population is quite huge, and people who truly know understand that the Igbo constitute the single largest ethnic nation in Nigeria. Much has been made about how this so-called "small" Igbo land space could accommodate the vast Igbo population. But People also forget that Igbo land accommodated Igbo who fled from everywhere else in 1967. So, the question of whether Igbo land is large enough to contain the Igbo is a non-issue. In any case, Biafra is not only the land of the Igbo. It goes far beyond Igbo land. But even for the sake of building scenarios, we stick to Igbo land alone - the great Igbo cities of Enugu, Port-Harcourt, Owerri, Aba, Onitsha, Asaba, Abakaliki, Umuahia, Awka and Onitsha are yet to be reach even 30% of their capacities.
New arteries can be built, facilities expanded; there are innovative ways of moving populations through new transportation platforms -underneath, above, on the surface, and by waterways. The East of Nigeria has one of the most complex and connected, and largely disused system of natural river waterways in the world. New, ecologically habitable towns can be expanded to form new cities from the Grade A Townships - Agbor, Obiaruku, Aboh, Oguta, Mgbidi, Orlu, Ihiala, Amawbia/Ekwuluobia, Elele/Ahoada, Owerrinta, Bonny, Asa, Arochukwu, Afikpo, Okigwe, and so on. The Igbo will be fine. The Japanese and the Dutch, for example, have proved that there are innovative ways of using constricted space.
As for the economy: it is supply and demand. New economic policies will integrated Igbo economy to the central West African and West African Markets. The Igbo will create a new vast export network, unhindered by idiotic economic and foreign policies. The re-activation of the PH port systems will for e.g. open the closed economic corridor once and for all to global trade. As anybody knows, it might take a fast train no more than 45 minutes to move goods from the Warri or Sapele ports to Aba and even in less time to Onitsha. As Diette Spiff once observed while playing golf at Oguta, all it would take to connect Warri and Oguta is just a long bridge, and the vast economic movement will commence between Warri and its traditional trading areas of Onitsha and the rest of the East.
The quantum of economic activity will see the growth of that corridor between Aba-Oguta- Obiaruku down to Warri as the crow flies. The impact of trade between the Calabar ports and Aba will explode. In fact, the old trading stations along the Qua-Iboe River (the Cross River) at Arochukwu, Afikpo, down to Oron and Mamfe in the Cameroons will explode and create new prosperity and new opportunities. I am giving the short version. So, the Igbo will be alright. They would simply be just able to define their own development strategies, deploy their highly trained manpower currently wasting unutilized, and the basis of its vast middle class will create new consumers, and generate an internal energy that will thrive on Igbo innovation, industry, and know-how, which Nigeria currently suppresses. This is exactly one very possible scenario.
So, Tanko Yakassi is wrong. May be if the Igbo leave Kano, the Emir will no longer need to buy his bulb from an Igbo trader in Kano. He will have to buy it either from an Hausa, a Fulani, a Lebanese, or some such person. But those will have to come to Igbo land to buy it first before selling to the Emir. There was a time when all of West Africa came to Onitsha or Aba to buy and trade because it was safe, and those cities were the largest market emporia in the continent. People came from as far away as the Congo to buy stuff in Aba and sell in the Congo. It could happen again, only this time on a vaster, more controlled scale. The network of Igbo global trade will not stop if they left Nigeria. In fact, they will have more access to an indigenous credit system that would expand that trade, currently unobtainable and unavailable today to them, because Nigeria makes it impossible for Igbo business to grow through all kinds of restrictions strategically imposed on it, including port restrictions.
However, although I do think that the Igbo would do quite well alone, they could do a lot better with Nigeria, if the conditions are right. This agitation is for the conditions to be made right; for Nigeria and its political and economic policies to stop being a wedge on Igbo aspirations. And Igbo aspiration is quite simple: to match the rest of the developed world inch by every inch, and not to be held down by the Nigerian millstone of corruption, inefficiency, and inferiority. The Igbo think that control of their public policies on education, research and innovation, economic and monetary policies, and recruitment, control and deployment of its own work force both in public and private sectors will give them the leverage they need to build a coherent and civilized society.
They point to the example of Biafra, where under three years, they were making their own rockets and calculating its distances; distilling their own oil and making aviation fuel, creating in their Chemical and Biological laboratories, new cures for diseases like Cholera, shaping their own spare parts, and turning the entire East into a vast workshop, as Ojukwu put it, while Nigeria was busy doing owambe, importing even toothpick, and creating new wartime millionaires from corrupt contracting systems by a powerful oligopoly. It is a fallacy much driven by ignorance that Igbo will not thrive and that Igbo land will not accommodate Igbo population if they leave. That is not true. There is no scientific basis for it.
The dynamics of human movement will take great care of all that. It’s a lame excuse. What people who wish for Nigeria to stay together should do is not to make such puerile statements, because it is meaningless. What we should all do is to find the strategic means of containing Igbo discontent by LISTENING to the Igbo, and seeking peaceful and productive ways of fully freeing their energy to instigate growth both of themselves and of Nigeria within Nigeria for everyone's benefit. Threatening them will not work. It has never worked, and it is important to understand a bit of Igbo cultural psychology: the more you threaten him, the more the Igbo person digs in very stubbornly. Igbo, with a long tradition of diplomacy, thrive on consensus not on threat of the use of force, or the like.
Frankly, those who continue to think that the Igbo have no options are yet to understand the complexity of this movement as we speak. They still look at the surface of events while the train is revving and about to leave the station. We need to work very carefully on this issue. I myself, I prefer Nigeria. I like its color of many peoples and cultures. That in itself is the very condition for growth and regeneration. A single Igbo nation may be more prosperous, but will be less interesting, and that is the more valid argument.
absoluteSuccess: That's exactly what I am saying, you think from a fixed frame of limitations. You insults to cleverly cover for your lack of knowledge.
However, that my triffling borders you so much as to comment without citing best alternatives to counter my triffling proofs you have nothing upstairs to offer than triffling too.
Where you can't think any further, you must always revert back to insults and polemics to cover up for your limitations. That's all your strength.
Is triffling the best answer to triffling from an erudite scholar whose history is being bastardized by triffling folks without an axiom of the trade and expertise of historians?
The joke is on you, keep triffling people who are already making progress with their findings. Your banters will come afterwards as Yoruba history.
Just keep waiting, your professor will have your back.
You sure you don't want to take up on Yoruba reverse migration from Japan? Lolz
absoluteSuccess: This is a good psychoanalytic specimen of the way you think. You cannot reach beyond your worldview. An impenetrable world of races spanning from all eternity exist to you already.
Shame on you that in this age and time, a contributor who reduces others' effort to a thrash sees the white perceived the white as "advance races".
Your education is a sham. I will be good to tell you that that's not how to reference others in comparison to you even as a "developing country" or a black African.
Meanwhile, this is not a politics or international relations thread, but cultural, historical or sociological discourse thread. The West is "White" or "West," not "advance races".
The core of your thinking reeks of inferiority complex. The irony is, you are here to fight against inferiority complex. When you say 'advance', what are you thinking?
This betrayed your perception about the us as primitive, crude and without "advance" sense of purpose other than what you are guided to do by the advance people.
That's a good idea inspired by Western education. Taken a cue from "The Tempest" by Shakespeare in his play involving Prospero and Taliban.
Western education has achieved it's aim in a simpleton like you. Your education makes you think from a fixed frame.
If the white folks are the advance race, then they are "Homo sapiens", and you (the primitive races) is "Homo abilis".
Go and sought your thinking out before coming here.
It's your own perception not mine. Who between us has been tirelessly trying to make a connection with another race by giving the most trifling association possible?
In your mind. You must think the other race justifies your advancement or how in the world does one start baseless associations?
You guys should restablish your progeny with Japanese people, Sebi they have a lot of Yoruba sounding words. Maybe we emigrated from Japan instead od Israel. And Nimrod is actually Yamaguchi. Tongue meet cheek
Tetehjewels: This is an Ibadan-bound train crossing the newly-built Kajola Bridge. 3yrs ago, that whole area was a huge forest. Muhammadu Buhari Prof Osinbajo mean well for our dear country. By the time they are done with Nigeria, we'll be on the fast lane to growth and development
ImoFirstBorn: It's obvious that those who have held Imo hostage for years are not happy with the level of progress recorded by Governor Emeka Ihedioha within a very short while.
First time in history a Government of 7 months is undertaking 30 road projects including federal roads.
30 is a four year record for some states, but in Imo 30 is a seven months record.
Afraid that a new leader has emerged, they are willing to sponsor protests, form unholy alliances and engage in all manner of conspiracy.
The most Important thing is that Governor Emeka Ihedioha is a Governor elected for the people, by the people and of the people.
The Voice Of the People is certainly the Voice Of God.
Obalufon: advance race .. look how daft you are ..you've been taught to believe we are not advance . you need to study yoruba race first ..Yoruba is different .. The problem you people have, is trying to merge us together with other tribes or aborigine of the forest... when our forefathers boldly pride themselves as superior and different from their neighbors Also forbid any link with their neighbors ,To them anyone outside yoruba race is not human
FrLukas: Wake up and re-read my post. I can't be arguing with you on something I didn't write. If you want me to break it down, I'll gladly do so.
You are trying to trace our origins to account for our ingenuity.
Abi what am I missing? No room for a largely indigenous growth from your Epistle. It must be from a source that must be traced so we can explain why we are great.
FrLukas: I am not convinced that the Yorubas have a Hebrew heritage. The OP has provided no proof of this, just some mumbo jumbo about Elijah being taken away by a whirlwind and trying to link some Yoruba words with this event.
To me, the link looks tenuous and tedious. There are ancient documents that link Yorubas to ancient Canaan.
A subject such as this is most important and can't be covered by a few words on a blogosphere like this one.
I submit that it is high time our political and traditional leaders as well as academic scholars like Wole Soyinka and keepers of our ancient heritage and secrets come together and help us trace our root and our source.
Enough of all of these guess works and grandstanding. They are misleading.
That Yorubas originated from an ancient, rich and very developed source is not in doubt. You only need to check out the richness of the language, the idioms, idiosyncrasies, proverbs and general use of the language. You need to understand the Yoruba religion which some others have called Santeria, the beauty of the lores and legends, the elaborateness of the religious practices, the incredibility of the pantheons of gods in Yorubaland.
All these point to a history, obviously forgotten, that would wow us and make us understand that there was probably a time when our forefathers walked the earth majestically.
The time is ripe to harness all the intelligence we can muster as a people to trace our origins, because a people who don't know their past, will blunder and stumble on into the future.
When we know whose children we truly are then can we begin to cast off the yoke of white supremacy that beclouds out senses and makes us think we are inferior to the whites.
Then and only then can we look at ourselves and observe our living conditions in disgust and strive to become who we are meant to be.
This cannot happen if we keep misinforming ourselves and holding ourselves up to a standard that I am quite sure is way beneath us.
I remember that this was how some Moslems in Yorubaland tried to twist our history by saying that Oduduwa migrated from Mecca and the likes.
Yoruba, ji, ma sun!
And who told you we couldn't have developed all that awesome cultural stuff mostly on our own and why do we have to appropriate other perceived advanced races to justify our own advancement?
absoluteSuccess: Point us to one great thread full of accolades in your name.
It beats the imaginations that western education got you so blind, making you another "happy distance slave" whose appropriation of English language is bought as "education".
Unknown to you, your education is another form of slavery to foreign "organised history" at the expense of your history or innate gift for a degree guaranteeing a meal for your trouble each month.
Tell us your indigenous contributions to your system of education. That's what you lack as typified in your posts here. You have no innate quest and respects no quests.
By now, you should be proud writing in your traditional Yoruba alphabet, on a platform invented by your god as a man from the "all sufficient race" that is proud to have taken nothing from any other race of man from creation.
Blogsphere: Since the inauguration of Abdulrahman Abdulrasaq as Kwara state Governor, not much positive news have emerged from his side. It is obvious that for the remaining three years, the Governor may not be able to pull such strings like Seyi Makinde of Oyo state.
The reason is not far-fetched. He has began some sort of witch-hunting against his perceived political enemies, particularly, the Saraki dynasty. He is hell bent on a revenge following his loss at the five consecutive times he contested the governorship of the state.
To further his level of witch-hunting, the Kwara state government on Thursday commenced the demolition of the late Olusola Saraki’s accestral political home, Ile Arúgbó, in Ilorin.
To show the level of desperation, security operatives dispersed protesters who kept vigil to prevent the demolition. It was reported that the Government on Wednesday around 2am tried to demolish the structure but it was met with a protest as people around gathered to pursue them away.
Although AbdulRazaq had earlier announced the decision to revoke the late Olusola Saraki’s property owing to alleged illegality in its acquisition, it seemed he has forgotten the living legacies of Olusola Saraki and his family in the state.
He said the land was originally designated for the construction of a secretariat and parking lot of the civil service clinic, but that it was unlawfully allocated to a private firm — Asa Investments Limited — without any record of payment to the state government.
The claim by the present government that the land will be used to serve as the new secretariat is ridiculous because same government claimed to have injected 250million towards the completion of a new secretariat started by the immediate past government of Abdul Fatai Ahmed.
However, all the appeal and warnings by elder statesmen including the former senate president fell on the deaf ears of AbdulRazaq.
Bukola Saraki countered this statement, saying his late father lawfully acquired the land from the state government.
The political intention of AbdulRazaq has made him forget the philanthropic acts of the late peace loving and kind Olusola Saraki. The deceased empowered thousands and gave meaning to the lives of many through different organizations and schemes.
This fierce antagonism shows that the only ambition of AbdulRazaq is to plunge the state into destruction and erode the legacies of her heroes. Kwarans should not support his hidden agenda!
This shameful thread of Jewish historical appropriation is still ongoing! What's the substitution count of judeo Christian characters hijacked by the posters or how much linguistic gymnastics has been derived?
Islam › Re: Recitation Of Sadik Akolade Alabi Winner Of 1st Position In Qur'anic Competition by kayfra: 12:08pm On Jan 10, 2020
