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MaxInDHouse:
When it comes to a certainty of where a worshiper belongs Jesus only gives one sign which is in line with what has been written centuries before Jesus was born!

Peter asked in behalf of all the disciples:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus responded:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

The promise God made to faithful people is everlasting life {Psalms 37:29} and that's what Jesus re-echoed in their ears {John 3:16} but before then Jesus told his disciples that many will be deceived into following a road which leads to destruction {Matthew 7:13-14} so how can his disciples be certain that they are still on the path to salvation or how can they be sure that they are truly in the right religion?

First of all Jesus commissioned a team of preachers and commanded them to keep on preaching and teaching to the most distant part of the earth! Matthew 28:19-20

For what purpose?

Before Jesus walked the earth two prophets of God name Isaiah and Micah foretold saying:


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. ‭Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 NIV‬
This means a group of people will preach from house to house and door to door about the government of God that will bring peace and security to mankind in general {Daniel 2:44} and they will succeed in fetching members throughout the earth and within their group they will inculcate love of God and of neighbors in the minds of each member so that they will agree to divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using of weapons vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

This is what Jesus came to establish when he commissioned a global campaign {Act 1:8} so that if you are one of his true disciples everywhere you go on this planet you can just look for one of your brothers as fellow disciple of Christ and dwell with them just as Jesus himself did after preaching throughout the land of Israel! Luke 22:11

So according to what Jesus said at Mark 10:29-30 are you a member of a global group whose members can claim they can go anywhere in the world today and feel at home in the midst of their fellow believers?

Well according to God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ that is the only sign showing that you are in the right religion which leads to everlasting life! Matthew 19:29-30

God bless you and may you have Peace!

What is everlasting life?

You avoided a question I asked you to give scripture evidence why you said only corulers with Christ are born again.

So, answer the two questions now or I will expose you.

Lucifer that is already fallen? Lucifer that has lost the keys of hell and death?

Little kids in God’s Kingdom are making a mess of him on a daily basis.

At the name of Jesus, every knee must bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus is Lord

iamteegee:
Is God Behind the Destruction Happening in the World Today?

Short answer: No.
God is not the author of destruction, chaos, or disaster in the new covenant. Many still project the Old Testament judgments onto a New Covenant reality, missing the progressive revelation of God through Jesus Christ, who is the exact representation of God’s nature Hebrews 1:3.

Understanding Judgment in Context

Every account in the Bible is progressive and well put together by the help of the Holy Spirit.

The Bible isn’t flat, it is progressive in revelation, culminating in Christ. In the Old Testament, judgment often seemed swift and severe. But remember:

John 1:17 – For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

God worked with mankind through limited covenants before Christ came. Those judgments (like the flood or Sodom) were part of a fallen world's interaction with a holy God before the cross made reconciliation and righteousness by faith possible.

The Flood & the Rainbow Genesis 6–9

Noah found grace- not because he was perfect, but because he had faith (Hebrews 11:7). The flood was not God's desire; it was a response to overwhelming violence and corruption (Genesis 6:5–13). Afterward, God made a covenant, sealing it with the rainbow, promising never to destroy the earth with a flood again.

So when people say, “God used a flood to punish that nation ,” we must say No!, not according to His covenant. If He said, “Never again,” then He meant it
or wild fire or tsunami or earthquake or to humans people say "God has strike this person" e.g stroke, untimely death, diseases, struck by lightening etc

That is not God! Stop using your standard or emotions of what evil or good should be to paint a god in your heart.

Jesus is the True Revelation of God

“Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil” 1 John 3:8
“The thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I have come that they may have life” John 10:10

Here’s the clarity: Destruction is the devil’s work.
Life is God’s will.
Jesus didn’t go around causing or discipline or trying to show who He is by storms or cursing cities with tsunamis. Instead, He healed, restored, and calmed storms. That’s the clear evidence of who God truly is.

Colossians 1:15 – “Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.”

If you can’t imagine Jesus doing it, don’t accuse God of it.

Misreading Natural Disasters as God’s Judgment

Take a look at what happened in Brazil, where people said God sent a flood after mockery of Jesus.

Let me ask you

Did Jesus ever destroy mockers?

Did He call down fire on those who rejected Him?

No, and in fact, He rebuked James and John when they wanted to (Luke 9:54–56): “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.”

That is the true nature of God.

God’s Heart is Redemption, Not Revenge

2 Peter 3:9 – “The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

God is patient, loving, and merciful—even toward the ungodly. The delay of judgment is not neglect; it's mercy.

“God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their sins against them” – 2 Corinthians 5:19

We Are the Light of the World

Even though darkness covers the earth, as believers we are to shine the truth and represent Christ accurately—not as an angry punisher, but as a loving Savior.

Finally Siblings

God is not behind war, earthquakes, tsunamis, or pandemics.

He doesn’t punish nations with disasters in this New Covenant era.

Jesus is God's heart revealed: healing, forgiving, saving, calming, loving.

Believers must move beyond fear-based interpretations and know God through Christ—His true image.

To the unbelievers, it's time to come to Jesus and accept Him as your Lord , believe in your heart that Jesus is lord , died, resurrected and seated at the right hand and say I believe you are the giver of eternal life and I receive eternal life by faith today, I am now a born again. Ask for the Spirit to come in you and lead you, pray in the Spirit

I don't agree with you. While it is true that evil comes basically from the devil, God still judges unrighteousness in certain circumstances.

Apostle Paul wrote:

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

Notice the phrase, 'for the wrath of God is revealed' It's written in a present continuous term. It didn't say, 'it's going to be revealed'. There is of course full blown wrath of God that will be revealed in the future. But, right now, it's already revealed.

Do you still see rainbows as it used to be many years back? God said he will not permit the flood to destroy the world if he sees the rainbow.

There's so much ungodliness today on earth that is attracting this wrath. And places where this disasters happen have traits of gross ungodliness.

God is not willing that any should perish. But most of these countries have heard the gospel. They are just suppressing it in unrighteousness..

If any country or community repent and turn to God, such disasters will cease.

Logical reasoning most times cannot be used to endorse the truth of God's Word. Does it sound logical to walk on water? Certainly not. But Jesus did.

According to the analyst, he said its the see of reeds and reeds could mean many things. So, why can't the reed mean water? And it's actually water because the Bible said that the waters stood as a wall on both sides. If it's just a swampy area, there's no way water could stand as walls. Again, the scripture never said that Pharaoh and his army sank. It said, they drowned. So, there is no error in the translation.

He should read the entire passage. It took a whole night to path the read sea by a strong wind.

With God, all things are possible.

Every attack on the authenticity of the Bible shall not stand in the mighty name of Jesus.

lawani:
Were the Jews right to execute Jesus Christ?.

First of all, some people insist it was not the Jews that killed Jesus but the Romans but I do not support this view because Jesus was not a threat to Rome in any way. He did not oppose Roman authority and when according to a Bible account he was prodded by the Jews on Rome, he advised everybody to pay tax to Emperor Caesar. He was not a viable messiah and only viable messiahs with large followings were engaged by Rome. A Jewish messiah is someone that will free their country from Rome as at then and make them sovereign again. Many people that assumed that role were killed by Rome and when their followers still insisted they rose from the dead, a particular one was left in a gulley to rot so that everybody can see he did not rise up again.
Back to the Jews and Jesus Christ. I believe Jesus Christ was killed either directly or indirectly by Jewish theocrats for being an apostate. He broke blasphemy laws. Going by what is happening in today’s world where people are allowed to make all kinds of theological claims and brainwash people causing death and misery all over the world, I believe there should be apostasy laws. People should not be free to publicly make any claim about God that they deem fit. They should especially not be able to make claims putting themselves on super human pedestals. There is nothing any human being is that other human beings can not become and if we don't respect that fact we will have issues in our society. In that light I support the Jews that had apostasy laws to prosecute Jesus Christ with in the first century. Though that was not his name but a Greek alias.
What I don't support is the severity of the sentence.
Jesus Christ was prosecuted by the Jews specifically because he publicly claimed to be greater than David, Moses and etc and went further to say he was equal with God. All in public. He claimed to be a leader (more or less King) of the Jews and the Romans were involved because of that. He however never led any insurrection against Rome and did say that his own Kingdom is in the minds of men. The Romans did not see any reason to convict him and they handed him over to the Jews according to the Bible.
In conclusion, were the Jews right to prosecute Jesus Christ?. Yes but the sentence was too severe. However in the past and even in modern times, sentencing for apostasy are always that severe. Since Jesus, many people have been executed for apostasy.

It's not about being right or wrong. It is inherent in human nature to kill dreams and greatness. Remember Joseph story. His brothers sold him out because of his dreams.

The high priest, priests and elders were afraid of losing recognition. So, the man stealing the show must die:

John 11:47-48 - The Pharisees' fear of losing influence:

"Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation."

Matthew 27:17-18

"Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ? For he knew that FOR ENVY they had delivered him."

Even today, so much lives are being destroyed by family members, close friends because of envy.

MadamVanessa:
And see how some of the learned people who are well exposed in the congratulation will subscribe immediately to this false preaching.

It is stupid loyalty. Congregation that don't use their brains.

MaxInDHouse:
Empty noise with no evidence!

Well you're entitled to your PERSONAL opinion!

Which evidence do you need again?

Is it the evidence of your many false prophecies that is on the Internet?

Or the evidence of deliberate translation errors in your evil Bible?

Or the evidence that Jesus is God which you deny.

Or the evidence that Jesus rose bodily from the grave.

I have lots of projects at hand. Several books would be released very soon to expose all your false teaching.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchian!

Repent before it's too late. You know your doctrines are full of lies. Maybe you are afraid of persecution when you renounce it. The choice is yours. Since you have chosen to spend eternity in burning hell, go on.

Courz:
I left the Cult once I realised it is indeed a Cult and A Business masquerading as a Religion. There were a lot of things that never made sense to me as a JW but indoctrination put all of that behind. So, in my case, it was an accumulation of doubts over the years. I also heard about the Child Sexual abuse problems during a Watchtower study and asked myself why a so called One True Religion should be battling with Child sexual abuse when throughout its greater part of its existence, it kept pointing fingers at the Catholic church for the same thing. During the Watchtower study, it was stated that JWS are now free to report a child sexual abuse case to the authorities, meaning, JWS were really told not to report but are now free to do so. This part didn't sit well with me. So, I googled Jehovah's Witnesses and Child sexual abuse and lo and behold, several news stories of CSA were online with many of them reporting that JWs were never allowed to report to the authorities with some of them punished for doing so.

After seeing all that, I gave myself the permission to research this Cult. I told Almighty God that He should show me everything. I told him that I must know everything no matter how shocking or overwhelming it is I can handle it and he did just that. He is still doing so till now. I kept stumbling into so much info even till this moment. I saw testimonies revealing the Occultic side of the Religion. I told myself that if I should see evidence about this aspect of the Cult, I'm done with It and will leave with my mind, body and Soul. I saw lots of evidence. Sometimes the evidence find me. There is a part of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society that is not being discussed online that I stumbled into from an African American JW (not an EXJW) who has Freemason family members. What this JW told me made me realise this Cult is part and parcel of the World System, in fact they are the main world players in the way the world is run.

I left once I saw the Occultic side of JW.

I hope MaxInDHouse is reading this. I pray that God will use you to deliver a few more others who are still in there. I also hope you have embraced the true gospel which is in Christ alone?

MaxInDHouse:
Where is the fruit of his ministry?
Jesus Christ said:
"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men." Matthew 7:15-20
As a tree planted by the one and only true God Himself {John 15:1} the fruit Jesus who is the tree produced is a group of preachers and teachers who are going from house to house declaring the message he taught them to declare God's Kingdom {Matthew 10:7} Jesus begged his father to keep this group together as one big team with the same line of thought {John 17:22} and Jesus also foretold that throughout the earth this group will continue this work as his WITNESSES {Act 1:8} and people everywhere will acknowledge that there is LOVE permeating the gathering of his fruit {John 13:34-35} because as a group they will yield the fruitage of the spirit of his father whose qualities are LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS KINDNESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23
So if this so called Abel Damina is a good tree where are members of his church so that their activities could be noticed at least within Nigeria to prove that he's producing something worthwhile?
Well for your information Jesus said the bad tree won't produce any good fruit so such once will only make noise in the media (Facebook, Instagram and YouTube) to gain more fans.
Surely you know what that means!

Jehovah Witness organisation is not only a bad tree, it's an evil tree luring countless millions to hell through their deceitful teachings.

Dtruthspeaker:
Have the persecution of Christians not already take place? (This is where you ou are supposed to remember LoReed, Workch, HardMirror, and all atheists and their crazy campaigns against Christians and now you can see that they are quiet and have no power)

Then look at all the nonsense that Isreal is doing today, who is not condemning them today?

This is a different kind of persecution. Every single Christian left behind after the rapture will be persecuted to death. Hence, it is called a great tribulation..

Dtruthspeaker:
Is this not contradictory?

The Messiah is against ungodliness yet you say that the Messiah is the beast?

And secondly, so after Christ there would still be another Messiah?

Clearly, it does not key

He will be a false Messiah. The Jews rejected Jesus Christ. So, they are still expecting a Messiah. They will initially accept him as their long awaited Messiah but later reject him after he set up an image of the antichrist. This is why he is called a false prophet who looks like a lamb (imitating Jesus; the true lamb of God)

Gabrielshow24:
I think Romans11:21-23 answers this. If they believe they will be grafted in! It's as simple as that.

So, you agree they are not yet saved. Their salvation is based on, 'if they believe..' According to your earlier post, you said there is no separate rapture for the Jews. But why are the Jews and Gentiles not saved at the same time?

gohf:
What does freewill mean to you?

If it means freedom to do whatever a person desires then isn't that more of an illusion than "freewill" as even if you believe you can fly while jumping off a mountain would you, meaning you are not free to fly.

Why not show us what and how you understand freewill is.

By the way Jesus said this in John.8.36, So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

Do not assumed that humans have some sort of freedom we are under the bondage of the flesh sin and death and only Jesus can give us freedom.

God did give us a choice to choose that freedom, John.3.16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

So it doesn't matter where a person is born or the kind of brainwashing they have undergone, if they choose to obey God and follow his son Jesus Christ they will be truly free and no more bond by those things you listed above, by their flesh and carnal reasonings and all.

You can't truly obey God or follow Jesus unless you are born again first.

Gabrielshow24:
This coming from a pastor is really worrying. The body of Christ includes all. All gentile nations are grafted in, there is no separation in the body of Christ! Gal3:7,Gal3:26-29,Gal4:5-7, Gal 6:16, 1Peter2:9, Roman10:12, Ephesians 2:12-13, Romans11:23.

Reading the above with respect to Rev7:9, Rev14 and the whole of scripture. It will be absurd for God to harvest gentiles and Jews separately.

For the record, "Spiritual Israel" is a term, people of non-abrahamic lineage tend to use to symbolize their grafting into God.

It's true that God doesn’t differentiate between the Jews and the Gentiles anymore with reference to our sonship status and rights in Christ. But do you know that the present Israel as a physical nation is not yet saved? Your answer to this will determine my next point.

Gabrielshow24:
What aspect of this did you fail to grasp?

I stated they were spiritual Israelite(body of Christ), which the gentiles are part of, and have been grafted in.
Not a separate instance of harvest that requires differing categorization.

The 144,000 were mentioned specifically for their purpose Rev14:4, this is evident because of Rev7:9 which shows an innumerable host from mankind and this clause , "and no man could learn that song", in Rev14:3.

It's just to buttress specificity! Not distinction such as christian and Jews having different harvests. After all, all are one in Christ not separate! Be it Jew or Gentile.

How do you know that they are spiritual Israelites? Please, back it up with Scripture.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you this thing several times but for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will repeat it again.

Only corulers with Christ are born again and Nicodemus wish to be a coruler with the Christ, that's the wish of all members of the Pharisee and Nicodemus is a prominent member of that group that's why Jesus told him that he can't join that class unless he is born again but as for millions who will live as subjects of God's Kingdom they only need to practice what Jesus taught them that's why Jesus told the first group of disciples that he has other sheep who are not of the first fold {John 10:16} only members of the first fold will rule with Christ. For your information faithful servants of God from Abel to John the baptist aren't qualified to be counted among the born again {Matthew 11:11-12} only God selects these ones among those who had been taught by the Christ. Matthew 20:20-23
Jesus referred to this group as the little flock {Luke 12:32} nobody can decide to become a born again Christian it's not by wish God alone chose them from among faithful disciples of Christ.
That's why Jesus said many are called but few are chosen {Matthew 22:14} they will practice the thing Jesus taught all his disciples but God choose whoever He wants. Matthew 20:23
So there's no criteria for teaching anyone to become born again Christian that's where you people are getting yourselves confused!

Only corulers are born again? Where is it stated in the Bible? Give at least 2 scripture references.

Gabrielshow24:
😂Since you have decided to be petty. I will indulge you by providing verses🤨. As this will end redundancy on your part.

I am a theologian, a spirit taught one! That's why we are different. You claim the Jews and christians will have different harvests.😂

While I gave a simple spiritual surmise. I suppose you should have understood that such are revealed by spiritual discernment 1cor2:14. Probably, I had too much intellectual expectation of you. The sealing of 144,000, Rev7:4-8, Rev14:1-5; 1000year reign, Rev20:3-5. Any way, it's expedient that your reaction is like this. Ask the Lord to show you how he intends to fulfill such and what they really are.

Like said, I provided a little spiritual context not an addition nor subtraction. I didn't accuse you of addition but yet in your wise eyes you accused me of such! See it as a commentary, not an absolute statement. As you grow in Christ, you will test its validity on your own.

Thanks🙃

You still haven't made any point. OK. Let me ask you this question.

Who are the 144,000 sealed in Revelation 7. Back up your explanation.

MaxInDHouse:
LOVE for God and for neighbors {Mark 12:29-31} as they continue preaching and teaching people in their neighborhood they are expanding the LOVE zone so that everywhere they go brothers and sisters in the faith awaits them like one global family {Mark 10:29-30} that's what God promised faithful people in the Old Testament {Isaiah 2:2-4} and Jesus came to fulfill it! Act 1:8

So if you can't boast of fellow worshipers in all the nations around you then your religion is false not of Christ Jesus who promised us that the first sign of our salvation is a global brotherhood then God will bless us with everlasting life! Matthew 19:28-29

All these you don't know only Hellfire you carry on your head as if there is no good thing Christianity ought to achieve other than threatening people with Hellfire!

But Jesus also taught that you must be born again. Are you teaching this also? And how can one be born again?

MaxInDHouse:
Failure!
They preached what Jesus taught them:

The Kingdom of God! Matthew 10:7

What did Jesus teach them?

Gabrielshow24:
Ken, The context is within Revelation, everything I posited are commonalities that can be found there. From the gathering of 144,000 etc. —What's there not to understand?

We all have the background of such! And lest I forget the thread's title is "phases of the End time". This enough should warrant the context will be solely on verses that involve such. From Matthew to Thessalonians and Revelation.

But I didn't deviate from this—Revelation —I constrained myself to stories in revelation! Nothing more, nothing less!

What aspect of my submission do you need scriptural reference for?
Be specific, 🤔if it's about using the parallel of the angels of curiosity to explain the use case of the 144,000 then I am sorry that's something God must tell you himself. Along with the spiritual existential geoid called heaven. The rest can be inferred from the stories.

Please, engage yourself with other activities. You are not a Bible scholar and you cannot be. Just mentioned 144,000 means nothing. Which chapter and verse supports your opinion about the 144,000 Jews sealed. You are not permitted add or subtract from what is contained in the book otherwise, the plagues contained in it will be your portion. In addition, if you subtract from it, your name will be subtracted from the book of life.

Gabrielshow24:
It's the self same Revelation you allude to, It's a simple exemplification on my part to give you subtle hints.

As it pertains to the things of God, no matter the grey matter you possess, it's very difficult to get to the plain truth of the matter. You must be told, God must tell you!

My sentiments was to make you see this fact. Subtle clues should have suggested this. The traditional 3.5years🤔...hmm, let's just say it's traditional👀!

As regards, the angels of curiosity. You don't know of such until such is revealed to you. My aim was to emphasize that your interpretation of separating some "144,000" was quite misplaced, spiritually! It's a logical reconciliation from your part but it lacks spiritual substance. The rest are left for you to reconcile the in-betweens. Take this up as an assignment with the Holy Spirit 👀.

If you had doubt as regards the spiritual geoidal existential plane of heaven, well that's beyond you. You will indeed need someone from the Heaven, presumably God, to take you out of the fabric of the universe 👀. Until then take it also as an assignment!

Please, which school did you attend? You are still making assertions without a single scripture verse to back up your claim. You have nothing to say. Just try and learn.

MaxInDHouse:
What was the purpose why Jesus commissioned the preaching and teaching work?

If you don't know then whatever you're preaching is heresy!

I am shocked that you are still defending this evil cult. The early church preached Christ. What are you preaching?

MaxInDHouse:
Let those claiming they are worshiping Jesus prove they know him by obeying his command to go out there and make disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

Note that making disciples differs from gathering people it means turning them into preachers and teachers of God's word who will also go out to preach and teach.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing this that's why all these so called pastors are scared of Jehovah's Witnesses because they know we have what it takes to make real disciples.

Yesterday i met one young man who said he loved listening to Damina but after our discussion he realized that the man is just another deceiver looking for followers on Instagram and Facebook!

Doing what? Do you preach the gospel of our Lord Jesus or another gospel? There's a curse placed on those who preach another gospel - Galatians 1:6-8.

The gospel is about the dead, burial and resurrection of Christ from the dead.

Instead of preaching it, you actually oppose it. You claim that Jesus didn’t rise from dead bodily. But you believe that you will rise from the dead bodily. What a contradiction. I have told you several times to come out of this evil cult but you won't hear. Continue until the devil claim your soul for the very hell you deny its existence.

Gabrielshow24:
Let me give you a theme that perhaps might help you understand some nuances. One, Heaven the dwelling place of God is a spiritual geiod outside of the fabric of the universe. The earth and all the respective "universal"—termed the universe by man—layers studied presently by science are under the smallest star—I surmise it as a star or if you want you can envisage it as a gem—embedded upon this fabric! That should give you a size ratio.

Now, in the kingdom, there are specific angels that are known to follow Jesus, God, up and down—They are also known as Angels of curiosity.
The supposed 144,000 comes from the spiritual Israel from which the gentiles have been grafted in. These ones will serve as similitude of the angels of curiosity, that's why they are exemplified as moving with Jesus etc.—They have a specific use case hence the peculiar emphasis.

The rest of those, that pay with their lives but do not meet such criteria are given their places. The two beasts are two concurrent powers or personalities that reinforce one another. The anti-Christ is a prepared spirit, contrived by trickery to fulfill the "is, was and still to come phrase"!he is Satan's version of achieving a similar hierarchical pattern with God. He is to Satan what Jesus is to God👀, this is enough for you get an hint of some technicalities obfuscated.

The antichrist by the way will be the most apparent policy loving guy. The hearts of all will be one towards him, unfortunately for them it will be shortlived 👀!
Satan by the way will spiritually serve punishment while this "being" reigns on Earth. Those that are saved from the first resurrection get to reign with God for the same equivalent number of years in heaven. It's a superposition of heavenly and earthly perspective! Once his time is done, he leads his hoard for a final battle and gets thrown along with the rest👀 into the lake of fire.
The two witnesses are physical manifestations of a set of beings, known to be at the right and left hand side of God, hence their depiction that way. If the spirit goes deep with you, you will know who they are. They are not Moses nor Elijah so eliminate that thought👀.

Rapture, the taking of God's sheep or the transfiguration of their flesh into spirits, occurs before the white throne judgement. Also, you might want to ask the Lord to redefine for you the interpretation of time, times and half a time. Your assumption of 3.5 is logical but it's not the actual case.

The 1000 year hints at Earth's longevity, contrary to JW. After these events, the great white judgement occurs with all receiving their due. The fabric of this present universe is rolled away and a new one is replaced with new Jerusalem descending from the Father!

It's a way for the bible to give a quick overview without getting into specific physical historical details👀. If you want you can ask the Lord to reveal to you, his race and place👀 but at this point we should all be grateful that we didn't see his day🤤.

Before these will be the emergence of Jesus' pygmies then the prophets of fire👀, a lot will be swept away by these. Fun stuff, exhilarating stuff. I do wish all those in that era, good luck🔥. In that era, the difference will be so clear that these present set of pastorpreneurs will be made to have done nothing! Savour the moment, you don't know what you are enjoying.

Quote the source of your information. Anyone can wake up and say anything. So, back it up with the Holy Scripture..

Brahamimo:
Why can't God allow any of the dead one to return to life and explain to us what happens after death?
It's really very strange to me why the none of the dead ones has done this.
In the early 2000s, some overzealous christians came out and made a tape claiming that they resurrected from death after three days because God gave them a second chance to return to the world and warn sinners to desist from sin. These people even went as far as saying that God told them that the coming of Christ was imminent and that the world was coming to an end in the new millennium in the year 2000. A claim that never came to pass. I was only five years then and I still remember how my neighbors sold almost all their properties ahead of the coming of Christ.

Nlfpmod Seun

There are basically two destinations your soul goes to after death; heaven or hell.

Countless hundreds have died, gone to hell and returned to tell us their stories. Search YouTube or Google for their testimonies. But, don't believe all the testimonies. Judge them by the word of God.

The story of the rich man and Lazarus also unveils what hell is like.

Don't wait to experience. Accept Jesus now as your Lord and Saviour before you die and end up in hell.

TenQ:
The church is separate from Israel.

But it seems they will share the same fate in parallel to each other.

I am still learning: I don't think I have all the answers!
I say only what I know!

I understand. No one knows it all. There are so many things I also don't know.

First, the gospel first came to the Jews but they rejected it. On account of this, salvation came to the Gentiles. Thus, the scripture says:

John 1:11-13
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

There were of course many Jews who believed at first but the numbers gradually reduced until it was difficult to see Jews who are saved.

Apostle Paul gave a startling revelation about the Jews and God's plan for salvation for them. He wrote:

Romans 11:25-26
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Verses says that the Jews are currently blind but not forever. This is why he called it, 'blindness in part'. He now added that the blindness will remain until the fullness of Gentiles ordained to be saved come into the kingdom.

And after the rapture, the present day church which is also known as the church of the Gentiles will still be saved. But not all of them that are left behind. Only those who repent of their sins and hold on to the confession of their faith in Christ. But, they will all be persecuted to death. And they will be so many that the scriptures said they can't be numbered:

Revelation 7:9-14
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, WHICH NO MAN COULD NUMBER, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands............

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb

Notice that there was no mention of the Jewish nation here. The blindness is still on even after all the Gentiles ordained for salvation have been saved.

At what point will the blindness taken away?

Remember that the present day Jew are still waiting for a Messiah as they rejected Christ.

That Messiah will be revealed almost at the same time the antichrist will begin his reign. The Messiah is the second beast in Revelation 13. He is known as the false prophet. He has two horns symbolising Israel and Judah. And he looks like a Lamb; imitating Jesus, the true lamb of God- Revelation 13:11.

The blindness will be taken away after he erects the image of the first beast who is the antichrist. It is at this point the Jews will realised they have been deceived. Every other nation present on earth will worship the image except the Jews. This is when their persecution will begin.

But 144,000 Jews sealed in Revelation 7 will not affected. They will be raptured at the end of the 7-year tribulation period.

And all Israel present at this time will be saved. This is what Paul said:

Romans 1126 And so all Israel shall be saved.....

Please, feel free to ask any question or make your objections. Eschatology is one area God has blessed me with deep insight.

Jostoman:
The only thing that baba is interested in now is how to win next election

He has already lost in the mighty name of Jesus.

TenQ:
Some things are certain
1. The Rule of the Antichrist for seven years
2. The first 3.5 years would be bliss for Israel and Christians and a lot of people will see the antichrist as a kind of saviour
3. The beginning of the second 3.5 years: the Antichrist will revoke his apparent support for Israel and Christians most likely because of the resistance by them from recieving the mark of the beast
4. This will lead to Israel and the church being divided by the Antichrist.
5a. The persecution of the Church and Israel will intensify to the peak as many will pay with their lives
5b. The martyrdom of the TWO witnesses
6a. It seems that no Christian will survive this seven years and Israel will also be almost annihilated.
b. Sealing of the 144,000 of the children of Israel
7. The second coming of JESUS Christ and Marriage Supper of the Lamb will happen with the descent of His Saints with the New Jerusalem from heaven.
NOTE:
It is difficult to place the exact time of rapture between these 7 items above. Rapture could be Pre-Tribulation, Mid-Tribulation or even at the tail end of the Tribulation.

The exact timing of the Judgment of Babylon the Great harlot is also difficult to place.

8a. The Antichrist (the Beast) and the False Prophet are arrested and Judged with the Lake of fire.
8b. The inhabitants of the Nations of the Earth who actively wage war on Israel are killed at the battle of Armageddon.
9a. Satan is bound for 1000 years
9b. The 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.
10. The temporary release of satan from the bottom-less pit
11. Satan goes to deceive the whole world again.
12. Resurrection of the Dead and Final Judgment of the people of Earth with anyone whose name is not in the Lambs book of life thrown into the lake of Fire (the Great white throne Judgment)
13. Replacement of the Heavens and the Earth with newly Created heaven and earth.
14. Judgement of Believers for Reward of their faithfulness and their eternal Reward.


Anyone with more time can support each of these with appropriate scriptures.

NOTE:
There is no one on earth who fully understand every event and sequence of the end times.
We all know in part and speak in part.

It is just like the prophecy of the Messiah: it didn't make sense until it was fulfilled.
1Cor 2:8:
"Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."
So likewise the second coming of Christ.



We are commanded to be sober and vigilant for we do not know when the Son of Man will come

Good day friend. I disagree with a point you made concerning persecution of Christians alongside with the Jews. Their persecutions will be separate. I have been trying to get the church understand this truth for some years now but it seems not to be sinking into our spirit because of what we have been taught over the years.

Immediately after the rapture of the church, the saints of the present day church will face severe persecutions. But the persecution will not come from the antichrist for he will not be revealed Immediately.

God's dealing with the Jews will only commence when God is through with the present church age - Romans 11:25-26.

The persecution of Christians is revealed in Revelation, chapter 7:9-16.

That of the Jews is Revelation 13 and there are unknown years in between the two events

I will write on a very detailed book concerning this very soon. May the Lord grant us understanding.

Truvelisback:
The Great Tribulation would last for how many years?

The great tribulation is in two phases.

The first phase is for saints of this church age left behind and it will happen immediately after the rapture of the church. This set of tribulation saints are revealed in Revelation 7:9-17

The second phase are for the Jewish Saints that will witness the reign of the antichrist. Thiset is revealed in Revelation 13.15

I know most readers will be confused here as we have always been made to believe in the three and a half years tribulation period out of the 7-year period the antichrist will reign. This has to do with the second phase of the great tribulation which our Lord Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24.

The first phase wasn't revealed during the earthly ministry of our Lord Jesus because the church age was still a mystery at that time. Even our Lord Jesus as a man didn't know about this.

MaxInDHouse:
How many times do i have to tell you:
"i'm not interested in your arguments"

I am interested in the salvation of your soul which you are neglecting. The scripture says:

Hebrews 2:3
"How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation..."