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Tonytonex:
for me, it's not. Can you be eating only bread for a month?

There is nothing you eat alone without combining with other food items. Mention one food you will eat alone for one month.

sonmvayina:
Thank God you are not him. Your mind is wicked.

Gods spirit+dust of the earth = a living soul.
Man is a soul made up of dust of the earth and God's breath(Gods spirit)

So what are you pulling out from your ass?

See Ecclesiastes 12:7

.7. And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God, Who gave it.

What else??

Update and upgrade your knowledge of spiritual things. The men of old didn't have full knowledge of God and so certain things they said weren't true. But Jesus who is the truth has come to unveil the reality of spiritual things to us. So, if you want to understand spiritual things, look more into the New Testament. I will come back and enlighten you more.

Michael547:
Where does the spirit of those who are not saved go to?
What does the soul of those who are saved go to?

These who are not saved have a dead spirit.

The soul of those who are saved is with the spirit. They function together. They are not separated. But they have different functions.

jaephoenix:
How do you know?

The scripture says so.

sonmvayina:
You..
God made a man from the dust of the earth and breathed through his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living being..at death, God spirit returns to him and the body is buried for it to return to dust...just like Psalm 104:29-31 says..
See Ecclesiastes 12:7
What exactly goes to hell?

The souls of those who are not saved goes to hell.

But the spirit of those who are saved goes to heaven.

sonmvayina:
1.Why would God send his spirit to hell?
2. Why would God send his spirit inside man?

Who said he did that?

Tonytonex:
there is difference. One is natural while the other is processed.

It means that bread is not food also.

Shikini:
The tribalism displayed by Tinubu sef is disgusting.

Is it only Yoruba tribe we have in Nigeria?
Most key appointments are all given to his Yoruba people.

This alone is capable of causing other tribes to revolt
.

Buhari did the same if not worse.

valiant80:
There is no Heaven

Don't doubt, watch the video first


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF48k8noHVE?si=3xJsYln-xZ-Nd8Fv

Receiving Jesus is the first step. But after receiving him, you must walk in the light of his word and keep your garments clean.

There are buildings in heaven. It is not built by humans. No one buys a plot of land in heaven. God himself prepares the house for us.

Jesus said,

John 14:2-3.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

franchasofficia:
The things you listed cannot be implemented urgently by the President.


What the President can do urgently to stop the protest and to change things immediately for good are:


1.) Revert petrol pump price to 250 naira per liter, stop the deceit of no subsidy payment while paying from the back door


2.) Cancel that nonsense Band A Band B for electricity tariff

3.) Open Seme border fully for now


As for the sharing of rice to States, President Tinubu should rather do the sharing of federal government palliatives through religious institutions like Churches and Mosques.


In each state identify 10 major religious groups there and send the palliatives through them to the people.


In Anambra for instance, use Catholic Church, Anglican church, Assemblies of God, Deeper Life, Apostolic Faith, The Apostolic Church, Jehovah's Witness, Redeem, Winners, Chosen, Trem, Cherubim and Seraphim, etc


It will get to the people more through religious bodies than through criminal state governments

Petrol price reverted to N250 will put a heavy burden of subsidy which we might not be able to afford.

Tolumiide:
I stopped at number 4.
While I have nothing against Dangote. I sincerely admire him alot. But I wouldn't want Nigeria to make the same mistake we made with cement.
When we were importing cement, cement was ₦600. They stopped importation of cement so that we can patronise local market.

Let it be competitive. Dangote is producing and our refineries are also working. Price will drop automatically

naija4life247:
This is a really unfortunate story. Imagine state governors hoarding indomie, rice, e.t.c. These bastards have billions in their bank accounts, but they are still poor and wretched at heart

I am beginning to suspect our leaders that they are all in a cult that have agreed to make Nigerians suffer. How else can one explain their wicked and unreasonable actions. Till date, we never heard about those palliatives. And it wasn't even provided by them.

I will like to add this, FG should start selling our crude oil in Naira. If we import in Dollars and export on Dollars, Naira will continue to go down because it becomes irrelevant in international trade.

Government is about the people. But this seems not to be the case in Nigeria. It seems Government is about the few leaders in power. How they can amass wealth for themselves and families and leave the people hungry.

Well, the people are tired. Empty promises from government to goverment. Now, the people want to protest and goverment is saying that they should be patient. For how long. I really don't subscribe to protest but it's the constitutional right of people to protest. Below are the options available for goverment to avert this protest;

1. Simply resign and set up an interim goverment to re elect competent leaders. Must you continue to lead when you know your leadership is bringing untold suffering. There is no glimpse of hope. Things are going from bad to worse.

It's not a sign of weakness to resign. It's a sign of greatness and it demonstrates that the interest of the people should be placed above selfish and personal gains.

It's only in Nigeria and probably Africa that politicians hardly resign from office.

2. If the first suggestion is difficult to do, then this second one is inevitable. Declare a state of emergency in food supply. Open stores in centres and sell out basic food like rice in cheap and affordable prices. These stores should be guarded by soldiers. Let everyone have equal access to buy the food. The idea of distributing free truck load of rice to states will not work. First the trucks will be diverted. And over 90% of those who are supposed to benefit from it will never see it. Instead, make them available in open markets.

3. Open borders and let food come in. Release all seized rice to the market.

4. Stop immediate importation of refined petroleum products. Let our refineries work. Allow Dangote refinery to work

5. Remove petroleum from exclusive list. Let state build and have refineries. This is a long-term solution.

6. Remove security from exclusive list. Let states have their own police. The problem of insecurity is contributing to high prices of food items.

7. Support local industries. Stop importation of things we can produce such as try circle aka keke and many other things we import. We need an industrial revolution.

8. Lastly, we need agricultural revolution. It was our major source of income before oil came. Let's go back to mechanised large scale farming. Malaysia came to Nigeria few years ago, took our palm fruits and today, they are the largest exporters of palm oil.

Please, add your points and criticize constructively.

Above all, let's keep praying for our nation. Nigeria will be great again.

Lizzysamuel:
How to arrest protesters maybe. Instead of addressing the issue of hunger and telling the President that he's failed with his policies.

Clowns called leaders.

Don't mind them. Governors that locked palliatives meant for the people during the covid 19 period

MaxInDHouse:
The questioning is for you to prove if truly you are one of His worshipers (Witnesses)
That's exactly what we His true worshipers face whenever we go out to preach and teach about His coming government (Kingdom) which His only begotten Son asked us to preach and pray for! Matthew 6:10; 10:7

I'm using this medium to tell you that you don't even know the God you claim to believe, mind you to believe means to trust that's why Jesus could speak confidently about His grace.

No question i asked you that i don't have the answers right there in the Bible that's why some often say about me on this forum:







After so much scrutiny over what the Bible says about this God and how He dealt with the Canaanites and other nations yet claiming He is the Creator of all most people finds it really difficult to believe He is impartial but when they listen to the defense i put up using the same book they want to use to accuse Him they often marvel saying:



So next time think well before approaching me with your stupid Hellfire doctrine my God is the most patient, most merciful, most loving God anyone could think of if only you know what He has in mind for the entire human race. Jeremiah 29:11

May you have PEACE!

If you call hell fire doctrine stupid, then you are saying that Jesus is stupid for revealing hell on his teachings.

Jesus must have been stupid to use hell fire in the story of the Rich man and Lazarus.

Oh, Jesus must have been stupid for using the term, damnation of hell.

Jesus must have been stupid for even describing the suffering in hell by saying that there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Even the writer of Proverbs must have been stupid to say that we should beat our children and deliver them from hell. If hell is ordinary grave, how does beating a child deliver him from the grave when he dies.

You are so brainwashed that you can't know the truth even when you see it.

You deny God's word and uphold the teachings of Rutherford and Russell.

You are more wicked than Satan. God will punish you and your generation for joining the deceitful organisation known as Jehovah’s Witness. You will burn in the worst part of hell.

MaxInDHouse:
But when questioned you don't even know how to defend the word of God out there in the presence of opposers yet you are saying you know Him better than members of a global organization that has used His word to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against humanity! Isaiah 2:3-4; Micah 4:1-3

Ọmọ your case is really funny ironically you're a complete fool deceiving himself over what he doesn't have any idea about!

Christianity is not politics. That you have a global influence doesn't mean you are doing the right thing. Rather, you are committing a global damage. You are preparing millions of souls for hell by deceiving them that it doesn’t exist contrary to what the scripture teaches. You read scriptures with clear and unambiguous meaning but you twist it to suit your preconceived opinion.

Your punishment is sure. You will not escape the damnation of hell for your global crime against the souls of men that Jesus died for. I have tried my best to bring you to your senses but you have refused and rather choose to promote falsehood. You are indeed a son of perdition.

AntiChristian:
I have to school you the Qur'an mentions Injeel and Torah not Bible!

Injeel and Torah are scriptures not Gospels or Letters according to unknown people!

Stop the lies once again!

Torah refers to the Old Testament while the injeel is the four gospels of the New Testament.

MaxInDHouse:
Did the inhabitants of Canaan knew when that God willed it to Abraham?
What justification is there in killing people who has been living there even before Abraham step his foot on that land?

You are questioning the very God you claim to serve. You see your life?

MaxInDHouse:
Oya quote it inside the context nah!

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} his teachings supposed to help those adhering to it become friends of peace {Luke 10:6} so that they can globally form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

Jesus said his true followers will be accused of being Satanists {Matthew 10:24-25} and here you are accusing the only organization of people who have globally become peace lovers due to what they learned about Jesus of Nazareth {Act 1:8} and you're here saying what Jesus said doesn't apply!

They couldn’t prove it but I can prove that Jehovah’s Witnesses are anti Christ. I have done that a couple of times. Just waiting for a book to be released on that. You are the worst religious organisation on earth. And you will all suffer for it. A special portion is reserved in hell for you all. You have the opportunity to repent but you don't want to. Continue in your lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 10:24-25

You are quoting it out of context.

MaxInDHouse:
What about the nations they met in Canaan?

Canaan land was already willed to Abraham. So, they had to fight to possess it.

AntiChristian:
Blatant Christian liar! That's because your Bible was conditioned by the church fathers to be centered around Jesus! Jesus in real life never call towards himself but towards the one who sent him.

The companions of the Prophet are the witnesses of his Prophethood!

Angel Gabriel came to teach them Islam with the Prophet!
Don't tell me you're still ignorant of all these?

And stop telling lies that no one believed in him!
His wife, his cousin Ali, Abu-Bakr and many others did believed in him.
How many Muslims emigrated from Mecca to Madinah when they were being persecuted?
And they were welcomed in Madina without any sword!

Blatant Christian liar!

Your Quran authenticates the Bible especially the Old Testament and the Gospel. And even say you should learn more from it.

MaxInDHouse:
Most nations back then has been extinct and the Israelites were the major factor that caused it.
So why is the spirit claiming "GOD ALMIGHTY" backing just one nation against all the others if He is the Creator of all?

Only those who tried to destroy Israel. Israel never attacked any nation first.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly the same thing Jews do tell people in the first century about the disciples of Christ!

Where is your proof?

MaxInDHouse:
So this your fellow Jesus worshiper is not even acceptable to your own Jesus despite all his arguments about your Jesus on Nairaland.
You and this your Jesus with your Hell stories!

Jesus spoke about hell and its damnation more than every other subject. Virtually all the parables he told were concerning the everlasting torment in hell for lost souls and unfaithful servants.

AntiChristian:
I am telling you that Jesus and all his followers and other Prophets and their followers will enter paradise only after Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam! The last Prophet will be the first!

A self acclaimed Prophet. Who is a witness that God called him?

Every single Prophet in the Bible spoke about Jesus thousands of years before he was born. Who spoke about Mohammed. Anyone can just wake up and call himself a Prophet. Nobody believed him until he used the power of sword. Now the strategy he adopts is brainwashing.

OnknownSoldier:
I am naturally drawn to things that people generally criticize and most of the time, I do find out that most of these things are not really what people say they are. People would generally hate what they don’t understand and that is the case of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. While growing up, I watched people avoid interacting with them and this made me curious to know about their doctrines.

After studying with the Jehovah’s Witnesses for more than 12 years, I can say that they are widely misunderstood by most people. Do I totally agree with them? No, I do not but I share their perspective in some areas like the subject of the Trinity and Tithing. I do not actively study with the Jehovah’s Witnesses anymore but here are areas they have my respect.

First, is evangelism. Without a doubt, no other Christian set actively evangelizes like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, none even come close. As a Jehovah’s Witness, you are readily mandated to evangelize not just occasionally like most Christian sets but regularly.

Second is their civility. As far as I am concerned, I think the Jehovah’s Witnesses are the most civilized Christian set in Nigeria. Even though they use microphones in their services, you can barely hear a sound outside their kingdom hall. I think most churches need to learn from them on how not to disturb people with their horn speakers. It can be very annoying.

Third is their uniformity. I have gone to kingdom halls and many Jehovah’s Witnesses’ conferences in many regions of the country and I can confirm that they teach the same message everywhere. Most multi-branched churches in Nigeria are not like this. Don't let me start to mention names.

Fourth is biblical knowledge. When it comes to biblical knowledge, I haven't seen that Christian set that can win the Jehovah’s Witnesses in a Bible-based debate even though a lot of people will argue that their teachings are heresies. The truth of the matter is that no church is perfect and Jehovah’s Witnesses are not an exemption. Try an engage a random 8-year-old Jehovah’s Witness, you will be shocked by his or her narration of biblical events.

Recently, I was watching a video of two pastors arguing about tithing on Facebook and I was so irritated by the pastor arguing for why Christians should pay tithe. The Bible verses he was using as his defense were totally irrelevant to the points he was making. Jehovah's Witnesses are not like that. If you ask a Jehovah’s Witness a question he doesn't know, he will not try to be proof smart to you or beat around the bush, he will simply tell you that he does have the answer to your question but he will reach out to his superior for the answer. Trust me, he will always come back with a reasonable response even if it doesn't really answer the question exactly but at least it will sound very reasonable.

Fifth is their lower divorce rate. Of course, there will certainly be Jehovah’s Witnesses who are divorced but I am yet to see one myself. Do you know one? The Bible says, “By their fruits, we shall know them. This is a clear testament to show that the word of God is of great effect in their lives. Yeah!

Sixth is their devotion. When it comes to devotion, I rate the Jehovah’s Witnesses very high. A Jehovah’s Witness with an MSc can decide to turn into an artisan simply because he doesn't want anything that will hinder him from going to weekly meetings at the Kingdom Hall. One of their members once told me that he has never missed a meeting in his entire life and if I wasn't mistaken, he should be around 32 years of age when he told me that. Jehovah’s Witnesses don't joke with their meetings and that's why you will rarely see a Jehovah’s Witness working in the bank.

Lastly is their less emphasis on money. This is one area I respect the Jehovah’s Witnesses most. A Jehovah’s Witness will politely stop you by the road, hand you a book that would have cost you a lot of money, and ask that you give a free-will offering. Even if N5 is all you have, he will collect. This is not the way it is in other Christian sets where everything is for sale. The only Christian set that is a bit like the Jehovah’s Witnesses in this regard is the Christ Embassy with their “Rhapsody of Reality”. It will shock you that the Jehovah’s Witnesses do not take offerings or tithe in their meeting except a box at the entrance of the hall where members can drop their voluntary offerings. Sometimes I imagine how they can run their publications and the maintenance of their halls. I don't think there is any better way to explain the true provision of God than that.

In conclusion, I know a lot of Christians see the Jehovah’s Witnesses as a heretic movement or even a demonic one but I don't think so. Instead, I see sincere people who are devoted to God in the way they know best. Whether their doctrine is accurate or not, I just hope God counts the sincerity of their heart and devotion as righteousness.

Written by Ifedayo Oyewumi

You points are noted. But the truth is that the Jehovah's Witnesses are anti Christ. They are not Christians. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. If you are one of them, you are doomed.

MaxInDHouse:
WHY?

If he didn't, the nation of Israel would have been extinct long before now.

And it's still rising weekly. It appears to be on a journey without stopping in the upward direction. May God save us from this one chance government.

Those who are very comfortable in their billions will never understand what the common man is going through.

StillDtruth:
Why not face the Truth on its own? Or let it stand on its own? Must you tilt it to suit your preferance?

See the guy has died and the fact he disapears and still proves Hebrews is right so no need to for you to create a delusion around it.

I am only exposing the deceit of Satan and warn everyone that hell is real. And your soul will go there if you don't have Jesus.