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MaxInDHouse:
So all the righteous people will rule with Jesus as kings shey?

Then where will their subjects be nah?

OK in the kingdom of your own god there's no subject shey?

Jesus is the King of Kings. He is the President of presidents. He will come back to earth to rule over the World from the city of Jerusalem. And so many faithful ones will be given power to rule over countries and regions.

But you didn't answer my question. Please, give me references to support your claim that only 144,000 will rule with Jesus in heaven.

Kobojunkie:
From where I sit, all of your gods of men are equally just as insane in your many contradictory delusions. 😁

I don't have time for a lost soul like you. And what makes it worse is that you don't know that you are lost.

Kobojunkie:
E be like say you no dey follow your own pastor at all since Damina is the one who not too long ago pointed out that Paul's words are not to be trusted;everyone seems to know this but you. How come?!

Who are you referring to as everyone? You are quoting statement from an insane man of God and you call it everyone. If you don't know that Abel Damina has gone insane, then you are equally insane.

3. Unfruifullness.

This is another reason so many born again believers will end up in hell. Jesus said;

John 151-2
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Notice the rendering of verse 2 in International Standard Version

John 15:2(ISV)
He cuts off every branch that does not produce fruit in me, and he cuts back every branch that does produce fruit, so that it might produce more fruit.

John 15:6 (ISV)
Unless a person abides in me, he is thrown away like a pruned branch and dries up. People gather such branches, throw them into a fire, and they are burned up.

Note that Jesus is talking about branches in him. To be in Christ means that you are born again. But you can choose to walk away or abide in him. But he warns us of the consequences of not abiding in him.

The parable of the talent is another good example warning us of the consequences of unfruifullness.

The servant who buried his talent was told;

Matthew 25:26-30
26......Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.

30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

So, you are warned. Don't be complacent in your service to God. Ensure you are vitally involved and produce results that will advance the course of the gospel.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know the meaning of scriptures you just quote stupidly.

Jesus called all religionists out of their false religions in the year 1914 just as he called the Jews who became his disciples in the first century. Revelations 18:4
I am one of those who responded to his call and became his disciples and just as few were chosen to become co-rulers with him in heaven the BORN AGAIN Christian among us were chosen and given the garment to join the invitees who will go and rule with him in heaven! Matthew 22:1-14

So there are millions of disciples called but only 144,000 were chosen to rule with him in his kingdom that's why he refer to them as the little flock! Luke 12:32

Use your brain. Which part of the scripture says that only 144,000 will rule with Christ in heaven.

The scripture clearly states that Jesus is coming back visibly but you choose to teach your lies. You see why I said that your organisation is anti Christ. You are actually working for the devil without knowing it. Deliver yourself before it's too late.

Beremx:
This will not curb hunger in the land. Another audio grant that will not have any impact.
Open borders and let food come in.


Nonsense

Don't mind them. The grant is an opportunity to steal. They will just transfer to a few and pocket the remaining fund.

CartelKenneth:
Of course it’s just assembled
Black man no get sense for any thing for this life except to cheat his neighbors and to be unnecessarily wicked and evil to his fellow black man
That’s why they don’t progress and that’s why the white man used them as slaves🐒🐒🐒

I guess as much. We have not been able to manufacture even cooking stoves. Cooking stoves are imported from China.

Made in Nigeria or assembled in Nigeria? Please, they should tell us the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the essence of your so called BORN AGAIN now that some of you are going to your HELLFIRE?

At least, some will enter heaven. And no one will make heaven unless you are born again. Jesus said so. And he also let us know that majority will go to hell. The ratio of those who will go to heaven compared with those who will go to hell is estimated to be 1:10,000. The choice is yours. You can be among the chosen few.

Even during Noah's flood, only 8 souls were saved.

During the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, only 4 souls were given the opportunity to escape but Lot's wife was lost because she looked back.

Many are called but few are chosen.

MaxInDHouse:
That's the name the true God called his faithful worshipers in the endtime:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15


Proverbs 18:13

You just jumped at the post without reading with insight.
I am not a BORN AGAIN i'm just talking about them and their attitude in our midst!

But you said that there is no born again Christian outside Jehovah Witnesse organisation. And now you are saying that you are not born again. You are hopelessness confused.

StillDtruth:
Off point!

You did not make this post to ask for urgent 5k. So you dug a pit for me to fall, and it is the wicked who dig pits for another to fall, therefore you are a very wicked person and not a christian at all and you already know that people like you shall burn forever in God's Wrath!

Tell me how many people who have asked for urgent fund on nairaland that you have helped with proof.

MaxInDHouse:
So your own BORN AGAIN people are still with such low sensitivity?

If i say you don't know the meaning of "BORN AGAIN" you will start calling names.

If you're not stupid a BORN AGAIN Christian is one born of the spirit {John 3:5} they are in the front when talking about holiness in our midst we fear them because their actions is judging us that we supposed to be their subjects while they rule over us. Revelations 20:5-6

In fact we are sometimes scared seeing how they do everything as if they're no longer humans like us, the spirit of God dwells in them and they have put all material things behind them it's like they're living in another world as we perceive them in our midst.
That's why you can never ever see a former JW who will tell you he is associating with any other religion/church because we are 100% certain that there is no born again Christian outside Jehovah's Witnesses organization and they are the ones we are saying this to:

“We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.” Zechariah 8:23

So my guy you don't know what it means to be a BORN AGAIN Christian!

You know that you are not born again. You don't qualify. To be born again, you must believe that God raised Jesus from the dead first. But you said he didn't, that Jesus rose from the dead and left his body behind. You are wicked to say things contrary to God's word. Your leader is in hell burning for his wrong teachings and you will join him very soon.

StillDtruth:
This is rubbish!

No one is born again if he does not have these!

You are a baby in Christ. You see a congregation of say 500 members. 90% might come to church on Sunday. But less than 20% comes for weekly activities. What happened to the rest? The church is lukewarm. We need a revival.

StillDtruth:
This is rubbish!

No one is born again if he does not have these!

You don't have all. OK, please can you help me right now? I am in need. I am not poor but I have a need. Can you please help? 5k will help. You are not under obligation if you don't have it. But if you have it and refuse to give, you have sinned. Waiting for your response.

Steep:
It is a contradiction to say a born again believer may end up in hell.
Don't just type with emotions you have to provide proof from scriptures
Jesus said he will never lose his sheep, his sheep hear his voice and Will not follow another, he says he gives his sheep eternal life and they will never perish, he did not say they may never perish but that they will never perish.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


John further said that he that is born of God sinneth not.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The very definition of a born again already mean they are eternally secured.

Thank God this message attracted people like you.

Don't quote only the part of the scripture that supports your pre conceived opinions. Learn to deal with all scriptures related to the subject.

The same book you quoted from said;

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Who is the us? John didn't write the letter to the people of the world. He wrote to the church.

Even the scripture which says, My sheep hear my voice..... What about those who are not hearing his voice? Ate they still his sheep.

When you don't follow his word, you don't hear his voice because his voice is in his word.

If there is permanent salvation for believers, you won't hear admonition like, Take heed, less you fall.

The scripture says;

Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

If its not possible for the believer to be rejected, you won't hear such warnings.

Another scripture says;

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

To depart from the faith means you were in the faith or saved.

What about the letter Jesus wrote to the 7 churches in Asia minor? What did he say to the Laodiceans church?

I could quote many more scriptures to buttress my point.

Even Apostle Paul said he put his body under subject less he be disqualified or cast away.

Jesus also talks about what happens to branches in him that are unfruitful.

Please, go back and read your Bible Chapter by chapter and verse by verse. Don't lift just a few verses to support your message of eternal security and ignore many more that says otherwise. I weep for the church.

2. Lukewarmness.

Lukewarmness simply means lack of zeal or enthusiasm for the things of God.

These are believers who say they are born again and their claim could be true. But they don't serve God with zeal. They are not consistent in church. When they manage to come, they must come late. You call for evangelism, they don't participate. They don't belong to any activity department in church. Even their personal prayer life is nothing to write about. The scripture says;

Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Jesus hates Lukewarmness. Its better you were not born again than to claim you are but lukewarm. This is why he rebuked the church of the Laodiceans saying;

Revelations 3:15-17.
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

When Jesus spue you out of his mouth, you are lost forever.

Don't be a Lukewarm believer. Serve the Lord with zeal. Just as the scripture says;

Romans 12:11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord

1. No Brotherly Love.
Our Lord Jesus gave us a new commandment of love which says;

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

So, you are known as a disciple of Jesus not because you sing in the choir. Not because you can raise the dead. Not because you preach the gospel. But because you show love to your brethren in Christ.

John the beloved made this message clearer when he said;

1 John 4:7-8.
7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Notice the passage above says that anyone who doesn't love his brethren does not know God.

How do we demonstrate love to the brethren? There are many ways but the real acid test of your love towards the brethren is giving to their needs.

This is why John also wrote;

1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

This brings to mind the parable of the sheep and goat given by our Lord Jesus in Matthew 25:31-46.

The sheep are the ones who cared enough to feed the hungry brethren, clothes the naked and visited the sick. The goats are the ones who refuse to do the above. They have so much money but they don't care about the needy brethren. Jesus will tell them;

Matthew 25:41  ....Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

Which side will you be on that day? The side of the sheep or the goats? The choice is yours. There is no such thing as onced saved, forever saved. You don't have to know the person from Adam. The parable of the good Samaritan is an example that buttresses my point. Even the scripture says;

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

The church needs a revival of love for the brethren. When last did churches raise hugs amounts of money to help the poor. We have all kind of givings but hardly any of is directed to help the poor.

We have wealthy brethren who give hugs amounts of money for projects and programmes in church but hardly helps these in need in church. Such people are not walking in love. Thus, John wrote;

1 John 4:20-21.
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

If you must make heaven, you must be born again and walk in the light of God's word. And you are born again the very moment you believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus and confess him as your Lord and Saviour- Romans 10:9-10.

So, its important to be born again. However, the journey to heaven doesn't stop at being born again. You must walk in the light of God's word now that you are saved otherwise heaven will elude you.

There are so many Christians who are born again but do not walk in the light of God's word. Some have the wrong teaching of eternal security. There is no such thing.

Highlighted below are some of the reasons some born again believers will not make heaven;

1. No Brotherly Love
2. Lukewarmness
3. Unfruifullness
4. Habitual Abstinence from Church Services and Lateness to Church.
5. Unforgiven.
6. Evil Speaking and Slander
7. Causing Division in Church

The list is not exhaustive. I will begin to explain the highlighted points one by one.

OZIOGU1:
Yea, conveying cows from north to south is very expensive

The cost will reduce if our train system is working. What is the government doing all the trillions they are borrowing?

Aemmyjah:
Raising the dead nkor

Sure. It's included.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid you should know that in a personal race no one tells another how to run its only when it involves grouping that you need to tell others how everyone must do things that's why Paul compared what the Beroeans (a group) did to what Thessalonians (another group) did otherwise each person could have done things on their own without comparing and Paul or you wouldn't have to make comparisons.

So the OP is about a GROUP of people that's why the Bible mentioned a GROUP called "Beroeans" and compare them to another GROUP called "Thessalonians" so it's not about an individual like a Beroean or a Thessalonian.

Please present one GROUP that's practicing what you typed here.

Thanks in advance!

Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

If you can't do any of the above, you are not a believer period.

You just practicing religion without power. Empty vessel.

I have laid hands on the sick and they recover. One happened just today. The said lady has been sick for over a week. She has taken drugs and injection but she wasn't any better. I laid hands on her and in just a few hours, she has recovered.

AntiChristian:
Ogbeni Keep quiet!
How many times have we cautioned you there was no general entering of hell in that verse?

Na your Jesus go do excursion for inside hell!

Our own Jesus never die yet!

This below is super clear!

Lies. One of the 99 names of Allah means the deceitful one. You have been deceived. The earlier you know it the better

AntiChristian:
What's the Purpose of our creation from the Bible?
Since God is the Creator and He created us, it is fitting that God should tell us our purpose of life or why we were created. Therefore, I’m asking for where in the Bible does God-YHWH-the Son-the Spirit or Paul, mention why God created us?

Your Allah has prepared hell for you. Instead of you to think of how you can escape the deceit of Allah, you are here asking baseless questions. My friend, save your soul first by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

Bobloco:
I am still waiting endlessly when the naira will exchange below #1000 for a dollar, as was promised by the BATerians.

I hope I will not be labeled as being bitter, a hater, and an enemy of progress because my candidate lost for being hopeful and optimistic about the naira appreciating and exchanging below #1000 for a dollar.

Even if it happens, is it an achievement? How much was the exchange rate when he took over?

MaxInDHouse:
Please present one group that's practicing what you typed here.

Thanks in advance!

Christianity is a personal race. There is no such thing as a practicing group. It's not an entertainment industry. The real Christian life is preaching the gospel with signs following. You lay hands on the sick and see them recover. You cast out devils. Can you do that?

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century Jewish community there were numerous religious sects all claiming worshipers of the God of Abraham but then there is contradictions among them as they had different schools of thought headed by a body called Pharisees. Each Pharisee had his own Rabbinic school where students were thought to become Pharisees in the future, the Apostle Paul was tutored in one of these Rabbinic schools under a Pharisee whose name is Gamaliel! Act 22:3 compare to Act 5:34

So when Jesus of Nazareth began preaching and teaching throughout all the district of Judea and his teaching didn't match any of their Rabbinic schools {Matthew 7:28-29} they all ganged up to incriminate him because they were envious thinking that with his teachings Jesus will win the heart of all their people! John 11:48

They conspired with Roman politician called Pontius Pilate and killed Jesus of Nazareth believing that their troubles are over not until Jesus' disciples began preaching and teaching that the man killed as a blasphemer is actually the long awaited Messiah! Act 2:36

This is what Jesus' disciples were preaching and teaching with zeal that led to crisis among the Jews in the first century as their leaders began hunting Jesus' disciples telling them to stop claiming that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah) Act 4:18; 5:28

So in every land where Judaism has become a religion among people of other nations Jesus' disciples quickly gained the attention of people who were Jewish proselytes as all these people were also in expectation of the Messiah.

Noteworthy are Jewish proselytes found in an ancient city called Beroea these proselytes heard what Jesus' disciples preached but since the Jewish religious sects that taught them Judaism never told them anything like that they were skeptical about Jesus' disciples even though Jesus' disciples were performing great signs and wonders in Jesus name the Beroean proselytes didn't just jump at them to accept their message unlike their fellow proselytes in Thessalonica they were studying the scriptures diligently everyday to be sure that what Jesus' disciples are saying is true! Act 17:11

Now the question each Bible student need to ask himself or herself today:

*Am i noble minded like the Jewish proselytes in the first century Beroean community?

*Since there was only the Old Testament (Genesis - Malachi) that was available back then how were they convinced that Jesus is the Messiah?

*Why did they choose to study the scriptures instead of believing the disciples of Jesus and not minding their miraculous works?

*How can i be noble minded like them today?

First, throw away all the trash you have learnt from Jehovah Witness.

Second, receive the free gift of salvation by believing and confessing that Jesus is Lord and Saviour.

Third, receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit with the physical manifestation of Speaking in Tongues.

Fourth, study diligently with the aid of reference Bible and concordance.

Fifth- Follow the rules of scripture interpretations.

Chrisrare:
If Jesus is real, you won't be creating threads to tell us Jesus is real.. You don't see anyone creating threads to tell us gravity is real. When something is fake/imaginary, you spend a lot of time and effort trying to convince people that it's real.

It's because you are walking with your physical senses. The realm of the spirit is more real than this physical world. In fact, the spirit realm controls the physical world. You need faith to understand the spirit realm and rule your world from there.

Don't take this subject lightly. Your eternal destiny depends on it. Jesus word is final. And it will be used to judge us on the day of judgment.

Religion will not save you. You must be born again. Its a free gift. You don't work for it. Just receive it.

So, if you are not yet saved, say this prayer aloud to your hearing;

Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that you died for me. I believe also that God raised you from the dead to justify me. I hearby confess you as my Lord and Saviour from this day henceforth. Father, thank you for saving me. I am born again according to your word. I receive grace to walk in the light of your word and in the consciousness of this new life in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen

Apostle Paul by the Spirit of God gave us the template to be saved or born again;

9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

So, there are 2 steps involved;

1. Believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and that God raised him up on the third day to justify you.
2. Confess with your mouth what you have believed in your heart and affirm that Jesus is your Lord and Saviour.

The monent you do this, a miracle takes place instantly and you will receive a new life from God himself. To most people, they can sense the instantaneous transformation. You become a new creation on the inside. Your spirit man has changed and you are automatically translated into the kingdom of God.

To be continued.

To clearly explain what it means to be born again, its important to know where we are coming from and what necessitated the need to be born again.

Man was created perfect until he disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden That disobedience brought spiritual or eternal death. The spirit of man died that very day Adam ate the forbidden fruit. And that death was inherited by all mankind.

And the consequence was that every soul goes to hell after death to suffer eternal punishment.

So, in order to save us from this eternal death, God had to send Jesus to due for the sins of all mankind. The scripture says that the wages of sin is death. And sin can only be washed away by blood sacrifices.

This is what Jesus did on the cross. He sacrificed himself to save us all.

Anyone who believes in what he did and confess him as Lord and Saviour will be delivered from eternal death and receive eternal life.

God himself performs a heart surgery. He takes away your old heart and puts in a new heart- Ezekiel 36:26-27.

To he continued in the next post.