barackodam:




I get it bro, I'm tired of predicting jare

Lol yeah

@ barackodam i have read your reviews...
And everyone else's

Anyways I took my time to rewatch from season 2 till the last season 3 episode.

So here is my prediction:


tomorrow we will get our big savitar unmasking, i decided to give my Final Prediction about who is under the Suit.

I think the Writers did a great Job this year by not giving us 100% clear Hints in the Direction who savitar is. it was our hook point for the whole Season. a classic Mcguffin. some people may be pissed because it took them so long but the Reveal and Explanation will sell it tomorrow or not.

so for the Points i list it only helps to read them if you watched every Episode until now since the start of the Series, or you know the Main Characters very well.

i was never so confident in a Prediciton but i may also be totally wrong. i am 90% sure on this and No, i dont think its Barry. This Season is all about his MIstakes but it would be to easy if its barry. everyone thinks that. savitar presents the dark side of him but its not barry under suit. and Barry will pay the Price at the end of Season 3 i think.

so Who i Think is Savitar?

Wally West.

Lets talk about it.

Before we start remember the Following Points are BEFORE Barry creates FLASHPOINT:

So we Jump into Season 2 Episode 9 - 22, Wally Gets introduced into the Series. He is a more Quiet Dude and he tries to fit into his new Family. But he doesnt like barry at all, he is jealous because he thinks Barry is perfect. Wally's Arc is about how he feels its his Fault because his Mother died & (this is imporant, remember it) he likes speed and loves to be fast (in Cars, for now)...

So remember SAVITAR is created before Barry creates Flashpoint in Episode 23 of Season 2. Savitar is Part of the Original Timeline.

So imagine this (thats just my Theory now)
in the Future of the Timeline where Barry didnt create Flashpoint Wally wants so badly to become a speedster, and he finds the stone or the stone finds him and his mind gets twisted and he becomes Savitar.He Creates a Myth around him.
Because i believe that what we got from Jay Garrick in Episode 9 of Season 3 about Savtiar is a unreliable Narration, its not for sure that what he says is true.
Wallys Reasons for wanting speed in the NON FLASHPOINT FUTURE TIMLINE can be a lot.

- envy that barry has speed
- something terrible happend to jesse or someone he loves (Savitar often says "you took everything from me"
- maybe he ended up in wheelchair in the original timeline through an accident and wanted to fix that...
There are plent of Reasons

Anyway he then battles barry as savitar and gets locked up in the speed force. And Savitar/Wally probably gets his Speed far into the Future and travels then back to create the myth for his persona and also travels to 2024 to fight our NON FLASHPOINT BARRY.

SO Episode 23 of Season 2 happens and Barry creates Flashpoint....REMEMBER SAVITAR IS STILL IN PRISON iN THE SPEED FORCE.

so whats wally arc in season 3? So for the first 9 Episodes he also wants badly to be a speedster, he even is sad when he learns that jesse is now a speedster, and jumps in Front of a Car in the Hopes to get a Kickstart of his Power.

Then in Episode 6 of Season Three they confront Alchemy and Wally touches the Stone and who appears for the first Time ever in front of us? Savitar. After wally touches the stone then we see savitar for the first Time in full glory.
Just a little hint: Wally's Cocon where he is trapped after touching the stone is Red/Orange/Black like the one of the Reverse Flash(Daniel West) from the New 52.

Then we have Episode 9 and 15 where they talk to Savitar he says to Iris "im sorry that you have to die iris, but its you or me"
you maybe think now but wait "why would Wally ever kill his sister?" well...after Barry creates Flashpoint that Future of how savitar becomes savitar is changed and now he needs to kill iris so that wally can become Savitar in the Future (Thats the Paradox int hisTheory)

In Episode 19 of Season 3 the Points i listed here get more weight. because wally is in the wheelchair, he saw who savitar is, he saw himself.

there are couple more points that make sense for this Prediction...
Wally and Savitar exchange Places in the speed force.
Wally got his speed through Savitar...
Wally is very competitive, he wants to be the fastest.
he would know all about team flash because he knows them very well.
Wally may had speed in the future of the original timeline but lost it after a fight. thats why he needs the suit and also he is good in tech, like in season 2 he tried to build a jetmotor into a car.
and also that savitar knows what reverb said to cisco is possible for wally because he was a part of the team when the whole stuff on Earth 2 happend in Season 2.

so thats my Prediction, we will see tomorrow!

Damn...
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Minemrys:
its joe or H. R that will die.

my money will still gamble on Joe not dying
its either Catlyn or HR of earth 19

The show won't kill Iris, but I am.sure.someone might die...

As for Barry, the speed force awaits him.

Jay Garrick MIGHT leave the speed force..


I just hope flash season 4 isn't going to be like the comics where Wally dawns the Red Flash Suit...

It might be nice but let's see

Phi001:

Stephen Amell is Green Arrow na...he's growing his beard...

chill bro I know just if you have a collection of season 2 episodes watch that particular episode and see for yourself.

SAMBHOSS:



Iris must die....her character has become insignificant in the series....

why niqqur, why

Phi001:
Stephen Amell is already growing his beard....

meh am talking about the traditional green arrow beard

barackodam:



Akant remember, you sure it's season two?

yap when they saw Barry's geeky doppelganger, killer frost and death storm episode, you remember now?

SAMBHOSS:



Yeah.....true.....

We'll just have to be patient I guess


Tz next 2 weeks........

I really wanna see who this savitar dude is.......AF.....

But at the same time want him to teach Barry a really good lesson.... .......

lols sure bro....not to mess with time, not always blaming himself, and all that

But there's something I still need to catch.

Who remembers the episode in season 2, were Barry, Cisco and Wells traveled to earth 2? Do you recall everything we saw in the background; Supergirl flying, a version of Wesley's original version of the flash 80's series in the background, a goatied Green Arrow shooting his arrows and our Grant Gustin Flash in prison....

the only thing that has come to pass is Supergirl.. what about the others or do they just write and forget?

SAMBHOSS:




Lol...this savitar guy be causing more trouble and tension than zoom.....


Buh dey really hit me when I discovered zoom was jay.....

Didn't see it coming...@all...

Let's hope they still have that element of surprise in the upcoming episodes....

Flash dah nearly lost its way.....

I feel you bro..but remember when the fake Jay Garrick showed Catlyn his doppelganger, whose name was Hunter Zolomon, I knew straight ahead that the man behind Zoom's mask was Zolomon... even in the comics Zoom's name is Hunter Zolomon....


During the time Jesse was imprisoned on earth 2 with Barry, the man in the iron mask gave them his ID as JAY(3 taps on the floor).but I never knew it was Henry Allen's doppelganger....
Barry later remembered that his Earth one's dad's maiden name was Garrick(this is the episode where they unmasked the man in the iron mask).

SAMBHOSS:





Nice write up bro..



For me...I don't think it would be Eobard.... It'll make no utter sense bringing him back....now@least....

What I think....


You said wells of earth 19....I believe tz him ohh....just like jay.....

And the wells dey showed at iris's death scene might be from earth 2.....


D wells of earth 19 is just acting like a dumbfuck...buh I believe he's up to something......

Let's wait and find out sha....I think deyya gonna reveal him in the next episode....

yeah I guess so too..but like you know the flashpoint 2.0 is even a sub branch of flashpoint... anything can happen....

but let's see the next episode will reveal a lot about Savitar... even if they don't show his identity, we would have an idea of the person

gamyy:


ur knowledge man....i dy feel u...

it jst has to be one of these theories uv stated

thank you sir, I just watch the flash and LOT with serious attention.

And I have been reading a lot about the flash..because I am a DC fan...as for green arrow I stopped watching it when it hit season 4 maybe I will go back to season 1 and Start over.. but I know his history very much..

Goandie:


I don write list of all of flash enemies down and non of dem came near xcept him or wally west nd i know it cant be wally coz him no fit kill him sis.
So bros who u feel fit be savitar xcept i go back to d root, which is old comics of d 60 nd 70s maybe dem go get ansa

ok well, here is my explanation on everything.

You know that in Season 1, the flash writers exposed easter eggs on who the yellow speedster was, (when Dr Wells was attacked by that guy who had sonic beam powers), they showed Wells running for safety and the red lightening emanating from his body.

In season 2, when the supposed Jay Garrick tricked Catlyn by showing her his doppelganger on earth 1 with his name as Hunter Zolomon, many comic readers knew it would be someone answering Zolomon that will be Zoom because that's his real name in the comics. So they are now so careful not to leak any plots.

In the flash comics, Reverse Flash &Zoom used to be the same person until, a new comic the new 52 came out and differentiated between the 2.

Eobard was Barry Allen's archenemy, while Zoom a.k.a Zolomon was Wally West's archenemy, how? let me explain. in that new 52, Barry was dead and Wally became the Flash, putting on Barry's costume to keep his name going. Now Wally was working at Keystone police department and he had a friend by name Hunter Zolomon, when Grodd attacked Keystone and caused havoc, Grodd broke Zolomon's back. He knew Wally was the flash and begged him to go back in time and stop Grodd from breaking his back, Wally refused because he had seen Barry's mistakes of changing time and events. So Zolomon went to Central City Museum where Eobard Thawne's suit was and remember Eobard's suit had a future enhancement in the crest that made him faster and charged up his biology.(in season1 when Cisco noticed Wells' wheelchair had a power source under it, they checked camera footage of the time vault and noticed Wells collecting the second enhancement or tachyon from his suit's crest, which is the same thing he gave Barry in season 2 when he went back in time to learn from Wells how to be faster to defeat Zoom.) Zolomon took the suit, but before then he had recreated the scene that gave Barry powers and he had his speed but it wasn't fast enough, now he had the suit of Eobard he wore it and it tripled his powers. He then became obsessed with destroying Wally.

So this is the comic history of Eobard and Zoom.
Eobard is known as Reverse Flash and Professor Zoom, just like Batman is known as Dark Knight and Caped Crusader. The flash writers make things interesting by not following the comics, example Zoom of the flash TV show is from earth 2 not earth 1 even though his name is still Hunter Zolomon.


That said here are my three theories.
1. Savitar is Barry: in the comics, the blue flash or future flash (Barry in the comic future had a blue suit), felt so bad at his past self for letting the speed force tear a lot as a result of almost everyone having powers, the death of Wally and the paralysis of Iris.
So he said the only way to solve it was to go back in time, kill his past self, take his place and use the energy to seal the patch in the speed force.. Which he tried doing but ended up tossing the red or present Barry into the speedforce, that one came out and found a way to toss the future Barry into it. So I
believe when Savitar always says 'you left me for damnation in the speed force where your future self tossed me'.. So here's the thing, remember the day Barry wounded Savitar, Barry asked him why don't you just kill me? Savitar replied, oh I love to, but what's the fun in doing that without showing you pain, first I will kill Iris and everyone you love, then I will kill you.. So Savitar could be Barry from after 2024 which is the timeline Barry travels to in the future to seek answers from. He simply came back to wipe his past self from existence and to punish him.

2. Savitar could be Eddie Thawne: Savitar is simply a product of Flash point, remember the theme of season 3 is flashpoint, that's where the story roots from. In flash point everything was different, everyone dead was alive except Eddie Thawne. He was no where around, and Eddie has been rumored to come on board the flash again, yes I know you will say the speedforce episode, forget the episode. Eddie could be Savitar as a result of flashpoint. Julian still exists outside Flash point although now they are in Flashpoint 2.0 a new flashpoint timeline. Cathlyn is now killer frost from like that of earth 2. So Eddie of flashpoint could be Savitar.. and come to think of it somehow somehow Savitar sounds and talks like Eddie Thawne.

3. Savitar could be the original futuristic version of Eobard Thawne. If you have been reading my posts on this thread, you will remember that Eobard of LOT is just a time remnant and not the real Eobard, because the black flash haunts time remnants that are outside their timeline. I mean look closely at the video where the black flash killed Eobard, no blood, no hole on the suit just a disintegrated Thawne. And the real Eobard could be somewhere, but Flashpoint could have turned him into Savitar.. Because Thawne is the number one future enemy of Barry Allen... So it is possible for him to do a comeback kill.



So there you have my theories, I could still be wrong though.

and I would have said Wells of earth 19 might be Savitar but the only claim I have is the way he calls Wallace and him wanting Wally to get faster. But hey, he made Jesse Quick find Savitar's Achilles heel.
So what do you guys think?

Goandie:


No am not, Well what ur sayin is that we will still see more of eobard den.
Den it mite be possible that savitar mite be flash from the future if i use ur analogy

I guess I have three theories though, I am still pondering on them.

Goandie:

The real eobard is dead have u forgetten, that was why d dead flash is chasing him.
He told d story 2 d legend of doom wen dey got him trapped in that bank vault i have forgotten that episode, he said coz flash got him trapped in flash point wen the real eobard died he was not wiped out coz of what flash did

ok first of all in season 1, Eddie killed himself thinking it would wipe out Eobard, it was temporary because, as a speedster, if anything happens to your ancestor and you have already being born, the speed force protects you and prevents you from falling out of existence.. he explained this when he came back in season 2 to steal a tachyon device from mercury labs.

Secondly, after his visit in season 2, remember he was allowed to go back to the future instead of killing or holding him hostage, the flash let him go back,now before he left he said' Flash now I know the timeline you are from, and I will come back for you soon'. So he left.

Thirdly, in flash point which Barry created, everyone is a figment or a mirage of existence. The Eobard that went to kill Barry's mom is a time remnant of Eobard Thawne, how? in Season 3 1st episode flashpoint, when Barry imprisoned Thawne, he said to Barry 'none of this is real, it's all in your head because you created it'. . Barry now had to reset the timeline by letting Eobard kill his mum, if not he wouldn't become the flash today, because it is his mother's death and his father's accusation that made him go into forensics as to understand the reason why..

Fourthly, that same Eobard of the flashpoint is the Eobard on LOT. Remember I said in season 2 he came back from the future to steal something from Mercury labs and he went back to the future, he is still there ooooooo. now the black flash which works like a time wraith only haunts 3 sets of people:
1. Speedsters who mess up the timeline so much it affects the speed force.
2. Time remnants existing outside their original timeline.
3. Speedsters who go into the speed force.

Eobard falls into number 2.

In the same episode you mentioned, Nate tells the LOT team that Eobard is running from something that wants to wipe his existence because his existence is a time aberration plus he is a remnant of himself.

So that's why he is always on the run whenever he senses the black flash around. Even Darhk and Malcolm discovered he wasn't real because he (Eobard) said and I quote' I shouldn't be here I am another time version of myself'.

That's why the black flash keeps haunting him...


still confused?


Remember the Eobard that came back in Season 2 is still in the future ..........he ain't dead ...

gamyy:

mhheenn..dx s kinda complicated man..How u take understand i no know.

all dos oda reverse flash dah eobard brot to fight LOT r from wer?

mheenn

Eobard brought all those reverse flashes but they are time remnants, here's the drill if the black flash really killed the real Eobard , his dead body would have been visible and wouldn't have disintegrated just like the future version of the Legends that died,


so since that particular time remnant was wiped out, whatever was in his possession would have wiped it as well...



just follow the flash wella plus LOT and put the details together , na so I dey take understand the little I know.

superfelix:

Did you know that Zoom killed his Time Remnant twice(what we saw).. he might ave killed more than 2..

Eobard simply ave to convinced his Time Remnant to help him.. even Barry did this..


Also,

Even when Eobard was telling d Legion of Doom he was from the Future, Dhark said, "is that new".. Eobard replied that he's from Dhark's future and not d 25th century.

Eobard is still safe in d 25th century; remember this Eobard was the one Barry stopped from killing his mother, thereby causing Flashpoint. Barry has restored that and that means.. if Barry travels back today... anoda version of Eobard will be there killing his Mom.

you nailed it

barackodam:




Thank you for calming down and explaining to my olodo sef, na you try pass, I totally get it now

anytime bro

SAMBHOSS:



So in summary.....



Daddy Eobard is alive......but is he roaming free in 25th century abi he's trapped somewhere........

lol in summary bro, The real Daddy Eobard is chilling in any of the time streams... The Flash will explore this at a later season.

barackodam:



In this case, something happened to his ancestor in the future, not the past, although, yeah, he died in the past, so, does that works too?

Eobard Thawne is from the 25th century and Eddy Thawne is from the 21st century.
Eddy died in the 21st century.

The only way Eobard can die by the hand of another is if he is killed in his own timeline the 25th century or he time travels to another future other than the 25th century and is killed..

look at the last episode of LOT, the future Dr.Palmer was killed, in the same timeline where his past self was....in this case the only way to have totally killed Dr Palmer would have been to kill that of the past, which would have a ripple effect of wiping the future one out of existence........


Using Trump as an example, today is April 8th 2017...if Trump dies today and anyone travels back into the past like 12th march 2017, Trump will still be alive..but if he dies on April 8th and someone travels into the future say 21st May,2017....all the person will see is the after effect of Trump's death....

barackodam:




Okay here, I kinda have a contrasting opinion.

I mean, Eobard is only one, after his ancestors killed himself, he's been running upandan, and now he's died at the hands of Sara yet again, so, how is he alive in the future if his ancestors, (future self) has already committed suicide?

.
if you're a speedster and you are in your original timeline, and something happens to your ancestor back in time, you will not be erased from existence because the speedforce Is with you....

you will only be erased if you are in the same timeline as your affected ancestor, but be assured you will return....

too much science talk....

gamyy:


so there is a future dah stil has an eobard... wat is all dx now

Eobard is from the future and isn't dead, we will draw reference from LOT..
Nate said, Eobard wants to rewrite history because he is running from something that is haunting him and that thing is the black flash. (after Barry beat Zoom in season 2 finale, the time wraith came to punish Zoom for messing with time and converted him to Black Flash). This Black Flash haunts three types of speedsters,
1. Time remnants that are existing outside their original timeline.
2. Speedsters who go into the speedforce.
3. Speedsters who have tampered with time so much that the rift is really much.

Now when it comes to the speed force,if you become a speedster and someone goes back in time and your ancestor is killed and you are still in your original timeline, the speedforce will protect you from falling out of existence... Eobard confirmed this himself in season 2 when he came back to Barry's timeline to steal the tachyon device from Mercury Labs..



As far as Barry Allen lives, Eobard will continue to kill his mother, of which if he didnt, Barry won't become the flash.


So friends Eobard isn't dead, keep watching the flash and LOT then you'd understand..

gamyy:


i think its over for eobard oo...wch oda version is dr?

btw, LOT was lit

The Black Flash works like a time wraith!

simply put, it attacks speedsters who have messed with time, remember in an episode of LOT (I can't remember which in particular), Nate was able to discover that the reason Eobard Thawne wanted to rewrite history was mostly personal (which was to eliminate his trail by black flash) and Eobard is a time wraith, Damien Darhk confirmed it in the episode were Malcolm, Damien and Thawne came together, reached an agreement and imprisoned Black Flash

The black flash only hunts time traitors, the reason the time wraith didn't attack Barry as he fought Zoom in Season 2's last episode was that Barry's time remnant was dead after sacrificing himself to stop Zoom's machine....


So this version of Eobard that is dead is another time remnant, the original Eobard is still in the future protected by the speed force, because no matter what happens to your ancestors, as a speedster, you will still exist in your original timeline.. (too much science talk).

this isn't the first time we have seen Eobard eliminated from the timeline.

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