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A40:
Brett Favre was a gunslinger. He took more risks than Rodgers or arguably any other QB that ever played but when he was in his prime he was far and away the best QB in the league. He was MVP three years in a row

Unlike Rodgers who would rather throw the ball away when he doesn't have a free WR 50 yards away, Favre would squeeze the ball through that tight window regardless. With Favre it was never over till it was over unlike Rodgers who could for the most part play from the front but rarely ever recovered a deficit

So ball safety is now a bad trait in a QB, Favre had 366 interceptions in his career, can you imagine how many games his teams lost because he was playing hot potatoes with the ball.
At least I know ARod will not lose me the game by giving the other team the ball

chic2pimp:
Hahahaha...Your wahala three much o. While at it you fit add Aikman,Unitas, Bradshaw, Young,RGIII, Warner join sef.

LMAO

A40:
Ok I don't accept he's top 5. That one nko

I have Brady, Montana, Manning, Elway, Favre ahead of Rodgers. I for add Marino but he has no rings

Favre ahead of Rodgers, I will personally pick ARod just because of the lack of turnovers.

A40:
Rodgers is overrated. The fact that people have him in the GOAT Convo ahead of the likes of Peyton Manning simply says he is overrated. I get his appeal to the average purist. His play is easy on the eye, however I'm seeing more finesse from this small boy Mahomes than the Aaron Rodgers people are raving about. And believe you me he has an even higher ceiling

I've also noticed people don't like talking about Rodgers chokejobs and failure to deliver in the playoffs like they do with Manning and others, somehow it is always everyone else's fault but Rodgers

People don't generally regard Rodgers as the GOAT. he is generally regarded as the most talented QB to play the game and because of that at his best has the most influence on a game.
IMHO the greatest and most talented are not the same, so people should stop mixing those two up.

Roland17:
Anyone who reads @A40’s post would think Rodgers is playing with 7 pro bowlers! For this season alone, outside of D. Adams who can we say is legitimate threat? Rodgers is doing stuff with Lazard, Kumoro, MVS, Allison and a washed up Graham. Jones is a product of Rodgers and the system so what’s up with the DISRESPECT?

All the Packers receiving corps save D Adams, are undrafted.

A40:
Tom Brady's very first win vs the Rams. Drew Brees also won a SB with the 20th ranked defense in 2010. Like I said you don't have any excuses

Vs the Rams, his defense was Ranked 6th, by the way. Let's clear that part

A40:
Tom Brady has won a Super Bowl with the 24th ranked defense. Try another excuse.

Drew Brees did it with a 20th ranked defense

These are the rankings of Brady's defense the years he won the SB according to Pro football focus.
2001-6th
2003-1st
2004-3rd
2014-8th
2016-1st
2018-7th
So please tell me your source on the 24th defence. The saints did win with the 20th defense but we should remember with all due respect to his regular season heroics it was against probably the biggest choker as a QB in the playoffs Peyton Manning.
The defense stat is not a dogma, but it does give a large correlation score anyway you look at it

PS:Brady is the undisputed goat and the only reason he is not 9-0, is that 2 times the giants pass rush eat him alive and his defense could not stop anybody against Foles.

A40:
Tom Brady has won a Super Bowl with the 24th ranked defense. Try another excuse.

Drew Brees did it with a 20th ranked defense

Which SB

A40:
We are talking playoffs you're talking regular season against the hapless Bears. The same team that flogged your Aaron Rodgers 44-20, Tom Brady came back from 25 points down to beat. There are levels

One guy had the number 1 defense and the other had the number 21 defense. Tony Romo put it best, "there are two constants in SB winning teams a great owner and a great/good defense"

Roland17:
If my paddy can compare the GOAT to B. Bortles he would. The man just hates Rodgers and I don’t understand it.
I mean, you can hate a player but be RESPECTFUL about his record. Among his peers, he is the only one standing! The other are out or broken.

That is one thing I don't get especially from sport fans. They are a lot of great performers in sports that I don't like but that does not mean they don't deserve immense respect for their craft. The way some people talk about some players if you don't know better you might think those players are scrubs.
PS: For me it is Novak Djokovic, I just don't like him, maybe because he disrupted a bit the Rafa Rodger rivalry, but I will also maintain that he is as talented and productive a tennis player I have ever seen

Roland17:
Yea right!

He tried though

The Hawks overachieved IMHO, this season. If they Draft well, next season they can take another step especially on defence and TE.

Russell Wilson might just pull this off

Roland17:
Take a guess? E. Elliott was picked ahead of Jones!

It is now a popularity contest then

Roland17:
It is a sacrilege that A. Jones did not make the Pro Bowl!

Wait I thought it was Smith that did not make the pro bowl. Those voting are on something then, who went ahead of him I wonder

A40:
Nope. Rodgers was never as good as this electricity I'm watching from Mahomes rn. I have seen all of Rodgers. From getting outplayed by old man Kurt Warner in his debut to his one magical run in 2011.

The next year nko? They went 15-1 in the regular season only to get torched by Eli Manning and the Giants at HOME!! After that na back to back L's to Colin Kaepernick of all people both home and away. Then he had the lead and couldn't seal it vs Seahawks. Blew a 16pt HT lead

Got outplayed by Carson Palmer, then completely got wrecked by the Falcons and Matt Ryan.

Don't get me started. I have a laundry list of Aaron Rodgers and his postseason chokejobs and under-performance

And please don't tell me he had no help. James Jones, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson

And before you bring up the defense let me remind you that Tom Brady once took a 31st ranked defense (in yards) to the Superbowl.

Who are the free agents that the Patriots chased when they were winning all those SBs? This ain't the NBA, free agents guarantee you next to nothing more often than not.

Aaron Rodgers is overrated. There is no reason he shouldn't have made more than one Superbowl if he is as great as being purported. I've already seen enough of Mahomes to confidently tell you his peak is and will be higher than Aaron Rodgers, it will be on him to maximize it and looking at him today I wouldn't bet against him.

I absolutely agree that Mahomes peak will be greater than Rodgers.
As for Patriots if you give Rodgers Belichick he might not win 6, but he will damn sure win more than 1,

A40:
That Texans coach and DC need to be fired before the end of the game though. Great as Mahomes is you still shouldn't turn a 24 point lead to a 20 point deficit

Totally Agree, they now have only 2 more years with Watson on his rookie contract. They need to make a change now

A40:
The only way to beat Mahomes is to keep him off the field. I don't know how Tom Brady was able to do it last year. I keep hearing about Rodgers but Rodgers was never this good. After Tom Brady this kid is surely next in line

Rodgers was that good the packers just had the wrong GM for most of his prime. I remember watching an interview from one of the veteran D-line men who was cut after Rodgers won his first SB he said I am paraphrasing. The GM said they will build the defense from the draft and even if they are not good that Rodgers will carry them, and that stupid decision cost Rodgers his prime.
Imagine if the packers had chased FA through all these years the way they did this off season, Rodgers might have won more than 1.

A40:
The only way to beat Mahomes is to keep him off the field. I don't know how Tom Brady was able to do it last year. I keep hearing about Rodgers but Rodgers was never this good. After Tom Brady this kid is surely next in line

The Chiefs defense was crap last year and even at that it took Deford lining up offsides for the patriots to win (The patriots deserved the win, just pointing out the circumstances).
IMHO if the chiefs needs to continually invest in the O-line and their pass rush while Mahomes is still playing, they will be contenders each year.

A40:
Ohh my Lord Patrick Mahomes. No lead is safe with this man. Ogini na fio

Assinn, 4 TD in a quarter. Patrick Mahomes just led drives that resulted in 5 TDs in 12 minutes let that sink in, if the chiefs can figure out a way to pay him without gutting their team on all 3 sides of the ball, they will win multiple SBs with him at QB ( injuries permitting).

A40:
The Bucks had to go through the growing pains and right of passage any team trying to win a Championship goes through. Bar the 99 Spurs and 08 Celtics I don't think any team jumped straight to a title without encountering difficulties.

I want to believe they will be better suited to take care of business this year.

As for the Sixers I'm still not sold on them, they could finish as low as 5th or 6th and have to go on the road all 3 rounds. Bar Embiid who you can't even trust to stay healthy I literally don't trust any other player on the roster to deliver. Not Harris, not Horford and definitely not Ben Simmons (Mr zero points in the second half)

I totally agree with you, even the 99 Spurs if you look at it closely was almost the same team that was bamboozled by the Dream led rockets and for that 99 season they added a bona fide MVP candidate in Duncan to their roster via the draft.
I am not totally sold on the Bucks, but IMHO they have 6 players other than Giannis who can comfortably score double digits in points on any given night. Thus I think they should consider second and third option by committee and ride the hot hand on any given day as their 2nd and 3rd options

A40:
The Bucks had to go through the growing pains and right of passage any team trying to win a Championship goes through. Bar the 99 Spurs and 08 Celtics I don't think any team jumped straight to a title without encountering difficulties.

I want to believe they will be better suited to take care of business this year.

As for the Sixers I'm still not sold on them, they could finish as low as 5th or 6th and have to go on the road all 3 rounds. Bar Embiid who you can't even trust to stay healthy I literally don't trust any other player on the roster to deliver. Not Harris, not Horford and definitely not Ben Simmons (Mr zero points in the second half)

I totally agree with you, even the 99 Spurs if you look at it closely was almost the same team that was bamboozled but the Dream led rockets and for that season they added a MVP candidate in Duncan to their roster via the draft.
I am not totally sold on the Bucks, but IMHO they have 6 players other than Giannis who can comfortably score double digits in points on any given night. Thus I think they should consider second and third option by committee and ride the hot hand on any given day as their 2nd and 3rd options

Roland17:
Was a lack in WR depth the problem for the Saints this season? I personally don’t think so. Also, Jerry Jeudy is a good route runner, not a speedster. The speedster deep threats in Alabama were Ruggs and Jaylen Waddle. It is very difficult to get a combination of speed, route runner and great hands in a WR, that would be perfection. I do agree that this year’s draft class has the nest WR class we have seen a long time.

The Vikings defense simply played them within the numbers and dared Brees to beat them deep. One of the reasons the saints could not is because Drew in recent times has found it difficult to push it down the field, but the other is that they don't really have any receiver to take off the top of a defense.
I agree with you that Jeudy is not a speedster, even though he is the best route runner available amongst the WRs coming out.
PS: Drew is also a free agent, is it possible both him and Brady are playing for different teams next season

Tundesam923:
lattimore is a good CB IMO. There is something off about the team that I can't put a finger to. Maybe its brees? Wilted something bad...a fumble? I don't know. You have a no 1 receiver who's unguardable, a sean payton, kamara was not healthy this season tho, something has to give...and they were unlucky this season...13-3? And still play a wildcard game?

The saints need to do in the draft next this year what both the Ravens and the Seahawks did last year and that is draft a speedster with good hands to take the top off the defense.

steady986:
I'm waiting for the time when we begin to say Doncic is a stat Padder.

What I can say about Luka is that I've never seen him push off his big man just to get a rebound

steady986:
I don't even know what to think of this.

If this is true the Lakers should jump on it Bogdanovic is as good as a playmaker and shot creator as Kyle kuzma and is a way better shooter than kuz.

A40:
Maybe not long term but he can work in the interim. Bridgewater will play within his limits and would be less likely to lose his team the game.

More importantly he's younger and knowing his limitations would allow for the Saints to use Taysom Hill even more. The Vikings and pretty much every other team in the league don't have an answer for the guy. I was shocked Sean Payton went away from him

Bigger than the Brees matter is their corners. I don't know if they ever make a SB with those corners as I struggle to remember any game they have come up with a key stop where needed

Never understood why Hill didn't get more snaps yesterday, he gave the saints a spark every time he was in. First he pushed the ball deep when he threw it and also what he did on the ground with his legs helped them move the chains.

steady986:
Rondo is a better playmaker, Bradley's as good a defender, if not better. And then there's Caruso who's as good a scorer

So in essence Collins is a player who can give you all three abilities in the same body.

zelgiusdigby:
Which guys?

Help me to ask him ohh

Roland17:
He is not necessarily a good route runner and not all WR are great route runners. He kind of reminds me of J. Jones who is not a great route runner but we all know is a beast when it comes to catching the ball.
He is only 22 and has time to develop but if he does not he would be fine.

With Wilson praising him for his work ethics, I believe he will improve and with that 4.3 speed he will be a weapon for the seahawks for years to come

Roland17:
DK Metcalf is a problem!

When he improves in number of routes he can run well, he will be dangerous.

birdman:
the whole team making mental mistakes all day. if not for the defense....

I was watching the game and could not believe what I was watching