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^ The man admitted he got Billion dollar oil blocks from Abacha the Butcher. As a dash. For free. They will rather share your money out to you like father christmas than allow you to control it. |
Nigerian 'Philanthropist' Gives Away $100 Million |
For those who don't know: Obasanjo + IBB + Danjuma = Owners of Nigeria They are all the same. there are more people, but they are all in the same camp. They are the Oligarchs controlling your destiny. Their children, family and close associates will take over when they are done. Don't be fooled. Because they sometimes disagree don't mean they don't know how to protect each others interests. |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=791041.msg9434796#msg9434796 date=1319791192]I am not excusing GEJ's actions. No sane person would defend it (notice that even an insane sycophant like Beaf dares not.) Just don't like this particular reporter's tone. Maybe I'm reading an undercurrent that isn't there.[/quote]I agree. That is some unnecessary use of language. Very condescending. |
Brutality! The sick people we give guns to ::shivers:: |
Bizsystem:No be the church people wey Katsumoto they talk about be this? j/kIt cannot be well with us along as we condone and cover up oppression and refuse to punish criminals. Ask nothing of God. |
arsenefc:The difference is in the connection they have to the people and their size. Administratively, it's easier to manage cities than these states. That proximity also makes for better accountability which is central to this argument. Gbongan yato si Ife, and should be treated as such. Merged states don't mean merged cities, and there's nothing wrong with that actually. I.e if a city believe they cannot sustain themselves through the taxes generated, they can vote to merge. (Ikirun can vote to join Ibadan if they wish and proximity allows) It happens in many serious societies. But the nature of our federation prevents this type of creative and organic re-organization. Everything is too centralized, too controlled by the FG or State, too difficult to manage profitably. Decision-making is also too centralized. Yes, cities can become big along the way, I'm fine with that, that's a natural process. As long as they are allowed the freedom to break up or merge without waiting for some federal constitutional amendment like we currently have. We will still have regional hubs but not 36 all powerful mini-Nigerias managing too much and spending like crazies while staying so far away from our towns and cities that we can't monitor them or burn their houses when they mess up. |
arsenefc:You can have true federalism with fewer states. No? We have too many states. I'm proposing stronger cities and LG in the spirit of federalism. States are not the Only components of a federal system outside the FG. Look at taxes for example. I'll rather they are collected and managed at the local level than give everything to Abuja or Ibadan (in the case of Oyo State) |
^ We can do something about it. Inspire us to start "beheading" them. Tell Oga Jona to start doing propaganda against them. People are ready. If he can't fight them he should inspire us to. The people + executive presidential power = potent force Na you go merge with Borno no be we. Shebi Una win the state now? |
Beaf:Oniranu ni Beaf yii sha ![]() You wan merge my State with Zamfara and Borno abi? Sango pass you. I'll rather merge with where Oyel money dey. Thank you. Jokes apart though, Beaf and the Senators are right IMO, we have too much government, too many governors, too many uneccessary admin centers called STATES. Most of them should be local Govts. We only need a few regional hubs, at most (5) Power for taxation and utilities admin should go to their cities or local councils. If your taxes can't sustain you, then find a neighbor to merge with ![]() But the question is: Where is the leadership?? We elected lawmakers and the executives to solve these problems not just talk about them. no? Why are they taking $2M salary with no results? Why? |
Leave tpia nah, I'm enjoying her posts. arsenefc:LOL @ awon "iwe" niyen <-- o ri yen so jare. Actually, I'm not a UI alumnus. Just some strong family connections + Visited the campus several times. Visited Ife too but, awon rascals ti poju ![]() |
arsenefc:As in there is nothing wrong with us showcasing our celebration Owambeic Culture right? ![]() It might actually encourage tourism shey? You have a point. We need to teach these recession battered Oyinbos how to be merry in times of austerity and scarcity. On that note, I hereby move that the Asenumelekejaye of Otuoke can carry go! |
This rumour about drinking problems sef. ![]() Hope it's not true. 120 people? and we want to reduce expenses and cut subsidy? |
[quote author=isale_ggan link=topic=788780.msg9419721#msg9419721 date=1319603535]"They are all medals. These wounds." Mutassim Gaddafi[/quote][size=4pt]That's exactly how we felt about the 1-6 game. We will continue to recover. It's a process.[/size] |
coogar: dayokanu:I said it! See all the Agberos of Ife jumping in to reply? They can never change ![]() Awon recalcitrant children gbogbo. SMH ![]() |
Too many Ashewos for Ife, too much wildness ![]() To see the real "Aristocrats", go to Ibadan. University of Ibadan = Agbalagba Gbogbo University! UI = First and Still the best. Unfortunately, Ibadan Gentlemen don't boast. Too Noble for that. |
mbulela:^ What he said. |
dayokanu:Mogbe! Kileleyi?? I remember his story. This guy changed to girl true true? O ga o! |
. . . And he put a spin on it ![]() Proud of Olojede, we need more people like him. |
So because he lost a few matches? Is it by force to qualify for next world cup sef ![]() Why not let him continue to build rapport and discipline with a new crop of players he can work with. All this quick quick result mentality sef ![]() |
Beaf:This is the issue, Who are these people? why can't my president inspire and encourage me to fight them? One of the key elements in presidential leadership is the power and ability to inspire. Let the leader identify the issue and the enemies, then inspire us to fight them together. We need leadership. Nigerians are ready, we've been ready since. . . |
Beaf, Yes. But I don't think we need to fix revenue sharing sef, we just need to "troway the nonsense" for ocean. What we need is revenue contribution, let each Federating units (whichever way we agree to constitute them) take charge of their revenue receipts -yes including oil. Then contribute to the center based on agreed-to terms( for national welfare and defense) Cities, LG and to a small extent, States, should be the first point of revenue collection. We are all being duped right now. Anyway, like Gbawe said, ideas are not the issue, dem plenty. The issue is political will to do the right thing. That one scarce die. ![]() |
This is actually what we should be discussing. Fundamentals! It should be on the Homepage. |
^^ LOL Funny guy ![]() I really do want my capitalists to succeed and I definitely don't want to silence socialists, we all have a role to pay. But these thieves will definitely not allow you set up your Gazillion MW plant tho. They like it as it is, no punishment, no risks = Corruption with impunity! Have a great day bro. |
Maybe "many" is not the right word. I'm not arguing for Marxism tho. I sympathize with some of the underlying principles but, I don't even think it's the solution to our problem, i'm not a die hard capitalist and I'm not marxist. Those theories are not enough to describe everything, definitely not my views. Ekt_bear, I'm also not arguing for an all controlling big government, my principal point is that Nigeria is not collectivist or welfarist. I know government has a role to play but shouldn't be an all controlling role. I never argued for full government control. At the same time, we cannot leave all of our welfare exposed to the whims and caprices of the so called free market. Balance is necessary. As per Nigeria, 100 Gazillion Megawatts will not fix this country until we proactively curb public corruption and start punishing people for their crimes. That's my opinion, we surely can agree to disagree. |
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Btw, I don't think my post is long. I normally space then out for easy reading. Many people in Nigeria browse this site using small devices. |
Ekt_bear yes Nigeria is centralized but it's not collectivist or socialist, heck it's not even welfarist in any manner. You can call it an Oligarchy i'll agree. Also I posted that response because I'm tired of people calling this country welfarist or collectivist or what have you when those of us who live here don't see anything remotely similar to the textbook meaning of welfarism. EX: You acknowledged you don't know anything about many of the examples I posted. I think I need to take you around Nigeria on your next visit. All these textbook ideologies can't fully describe what we have. BTW, as per the root cause, I bet we've discussed Nigeria more fundamentally before on other NL threads, from my own little knowledge I've identified what I believe the causes are, and I've proffered solutions, it may not be satisfactory to some, but that's just my idea. I bet you've seen them before, I can post links if you need them again. I don't understand what you refer to as "Nigeria's collectivist mentality". We have traditional cultural practices that promotes caring for extended family. So what? That is not even reflected in this system that we adopted half-heatedly from foreigners. What else is collective? My G. grandfather's land before the British came still belongs to us. Even the kings did not seize it, actually the British did more stealing. Their generation paid taxes " ishakole " to the king (state) and get to keep their profits. They didn't live collectively or even farm collectively. Adam Smith did not teach us how to create wealth or own property. There is nothing terrible about collectivism, but it's just wrong to call us collectivist. that's another rather simplistic explanation of the Nigerian society or mentality. |
So NDLEA sef dey fear Juju? ![]() They should just admit they are wrong and incompetent. I thought their science book said juju is not real. I hope they won't kill this guy with all the purgatives they give him. If he die for their custody. . Hmm |
^ You are very right. Most of the journalists we have are directly or indirectly controlled by the Oligarchs oppressing us. They can't do all that investigation you speak of, they will rather do pedestrian opinion pieces. Investigative kini? They don't care. Everybody wan become connected fast fast so they can lift oil or import petrol. Contract and appointment nko? Shopping at the palms, apartment for lekki, right to enter Aso Rock and lick presidential ass. They don't care about the art and craft of journalism. Too much work. Everybody wan hammer fast! That's Naija for you. Pure capitalism! Money, fame, power and the right to oppress. |
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